La Paz on Carroll Creek had a line when they opened their patio at 5 p.m. Friday for outdoor dining, hostess Lindsey Baker said.

By 5:30, their eight tables were full. Owner Graham Baker said they decided not to utilize reservations because they’ve never required reservations for their patio before. He said the restaurant would be willing to change that depending on how the first weekend goes.

“It’s new to us, it’s new to the customers, so we’ll all be learning together on the fly,” he said.

Outdoor-only dining went into effect at 5 p.m. at both the state and county levels. Restaurants, wineries and breweries that already have established outdoor seating welcomed diners to their patios, while still following social distancing guidelines. Gov. Larry Hogan’s mandate requires outdoor dining to be confined to six people per table, with at least six feet between each table.

Other Frederick establishments, such as Idiom Brewing on Carroll Creek decided to use reservations to avoid long waits, or people traveling downtown only to not get a seat.

Laura and Brandon Smith enjoyed Idiom’s beer outside on its creekside patio. The beer was served in disposable plastic cups and each table had a bottle of McClintock Distilling’s hand sanitizer.

“This is the one thing we’ve been missing and looking forward to,” Laura Smith said. The couple had made a reservation right at noon, when the brewery opened up its phone lines.

While business owners were excited to welcome customers back to their establishments, many of them expressed hope that customers would be patient and acknowledge the experience won’t be like it used to be.

“It has to be different, it’s the nature of the beast,” Graham Baker said. “So my hope is that our customers are understanding that it’ll be a little different experience for everybody — us as well.”

In addition to social distancing requirements, establishments were required to either use disposable menus or wipe down menus in between customers. Servers must wear face coverings, and customers are required to wear masks when interacting with staff, or when going inside to use a restroom or place an order.

Dave Blackmon, owner of Smoketown Brewing, opened both his Brunswick and Creekside locations for outdoor seating Friday night. Instead of having customers come inside to order, he is implementing service staff to come outside and take customers’ orders.

Frederick County establishments that do not have outdoor seating are able to apply for a temporary outdoor seating permit through the Frederick County Division of Planning and Inspections. Parking lots, common areas and sidewalks can be used for outdoor seating per approval of the application. Frederick city also released a permitting process on Friday for city establishments wishing to gain temporary seating, spokesperson Ashley Waters said in an email.

Kara Norman, executive director of the Downtown Frederick Partnership, said the organization’s three goals are to increase outdoor seating for restaurants, continue curbside pickup for both restaurants and retail establishments, and allow more space for pedestrians.

“We’ve been advocating throughout that we want to achieve those three goals with whatever solution is finally implemented,” she said.

Despite the short notice, with the county announcing on Thursday it would allow outdoor seating starting Friday night, Blackmon was optimistic.

“I’m hoping that this weekend shows a good example of how this is being received and we keep expanding our ability to serve people,” he said.

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(91) comments

awteam2000

Jagman,

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acknowledged on Friday it had mixed together results from viral and antibody coronavirus tests on its website. Eleven states also confirmed mixing viral and antibody test results.

https://www.startribune.com/states-reporting-of-virus-testing-data-leads-to-confusion/570732402/

jagman

OK aw, your statement here does not clear up gregboys statement which is a follows:

"There are states that have falsified and skewed data by combining it with less affected states".

First, he is trying to justify claiming the CV cases are still on the rise by claiming some states have combined or skewed their results with other states.

Second, the "mix up" was between antibody tests and Covid tests. Not total CV tests. Different animal.

So, in effect, you have supported my statement that his statement was false.

And one other thing. You ran and hid when I called you out on another article for calling me a racist. Your buddy fido tried to run interference for you but got destroyed in the attempt. You can go back and see how he did that if you like. I will, at least, credit fido for having the guts to try even if he had to lie (twice) while trying. You had no guts because you know what you said was a total lie.

That is something you will have to live with. You believe lies and you tell lies about others. See the pattern? You lie, gregboy lies. Fido lies. A feature of you lefties, apparently..

Greg F

Jag..I did not say they were rising...just skewed. Get your facts straight.

threecents

I think it is reasonable to combine them to determine total number of cases.

jagman

They need to be reported separately. People with a brain can then add the two together.

The reason is we can then find out how widespread the virus was in the general population.

As I have asked before: Why is there no interest in widespread antibody testing?

JaneFlower241

Wow - thank goodness everyone got to go out to eat ...because that’s what’s important right now. 🙄

2 weeks from now will be very telling. I feel fr the food service workers who have to risk their wellbeing an that of their families to serve the rest of us so we can “get back to normal.”

Lev928

Fools so eager to eat out will cause the second wave. Fools so eager to go to a bar will cause the second wave. Fools so eager to shop for clothes in a store will cause the second wave. Ever heard of cooking at home? Ever heard of a beer & wine store? Ever heard of online shopping? Let his virus die off and stop being so selfish and dumb.

vodalone

This virus isn’t going anywhere anytime soon and won’t just “die off”, life goes on and we have to adjust accordingly.

threecents

It might die off, like SARS and MERS did - both also coronaviruses. Fauci and others don't think it will, but nobody knows.

bosco

And meanwhile, the Covid-19 death rate contines to decline in Georgia. You may recall that the Republican governor in Georgia reopened the state over a month ago as the media's delight as they predicted would be an experiment in" human sacrifice". Not hearing much about that now are we? [ninja]

bosco

Here's a question for your consideration - what science indicates that food service establishment wearing gloves provides any more protection than not wearing gloves? [ninja]

Greg F

What science doesn’t? Why do scientists wear gloves during experiments and in clean rooms? 💩4🧠

bosco

Yes, Docyor Fed Up GregF, but they change them between patients and procedures. My point is how often do these food workers change gloves? Unless they change them between every customer, the glove is no more protection than a bare hand.

If you ever eat out again, watch food people wearing gloves to see how many surfaces those gloves touch.

[scared][ninja]

KR999

Oh jeesh bosco, there you go factoring common sense into a reply again. You know what that does to some people. Now he's going to have to think extra hard to come up with a believable reply.

Greg F

I e seen food workers change gloves between every customer. Additionally they have been proven to help reduce facial touching. So, when are you going to tell everyone with vulnerabilities to just stay home again? You so want anyone not perfect to bow down to you and your right to not be a mask wearer. You seems to always deflect to bashing practices of safety and say they’re a waste of time. Those of us with those vulnerabilities appreciate any attempt to be safer...and don’t appreciate your saying stay home. We contribute to the economy and have the same rights as you to go out...but you telling us to stay home is like saying for us all to get in the back of the bus as we aren’t worthy of any considerations of others to do even a little part to make it less dangerous. Your fearless maskless leader trump is just like you...even not wearing in a medical setting as he feels no need to even make a show of compassion or consideration. He is you. You are him...and that is what is wrong with your train of thought and the GOP today. Me first...you...well tough beans...the GOP and Botco way.

Greg F

KR...you and Bitsy will just have to come up with more ridiculous nonsense points.

rbtdt5

Greg F, where did you see employees changing gloves between every customer?

rbtdt5

Greg F - why are you going out if you have vulnerabilities? What can't be delivered?

jagman

Ever notice how soy-boy gregf lectures everyone to not go out, yet he always seems to have first hand knowledge that could only be obtained if HE is going out and about.

Including rather detailed accounts as if he is standing around in public spying on the populous.

What will become of him once he has to travel down the road to the cubicle farm?

KR999

Nothing, jag, he'll have his mask on. [wink]

Greg F

Rb...where have you not seen it and why didn’t you report it to the health department? Again...back to blaming the others. Pretty much any restaurant with a public facing kitchen I have seen it. Even before it was pandemic land, Subway and all the sandwich shops I visited did. What greasy spoons do you frequent? Gloves aren’t a requirement at least everywhere before the pandemic and still aren’t, but are helpful. You guys just love to argue stupid common sense things...I’m guessing you all are flat-earth society’s bright new members.

Greg F

Jag...never said don’t go out. Be reasonable when you do. Stop putting words out I never said. Nice Fox News lie attempt...you get a brownie point.

bosco

Rbtd5....he must eat at Subway a lot because that's the only place I've ever seen any food worker change gloves between customers. It is fun watching Doctor Fed Up GregF try to rationalize his rebuttals though. [lol][ninja]

bosco

KR999 along with the common sense factor is my experience inspecting food service operations and culturing working and food contact surfaces - including bare hands and gloved hands. Workers who practiced frequent handwashing cultured fewer organisms than gloved hands that had been touching multiple surfaces.

[ninja]

threecents

Bosco, the button pusher. You just admitted Greg was correct, put your real point was that you wanted to push his buttons.

Arbit

Completely agree!

Arbit

I have seen workers at subway handle food and handle money without changing gloves. It happens a lot!

Greg F

RB...same goes for you...then why do we need tables full of anybody downtown? Being vulnerable does not mean I haven’t got the same rights, freedoms and everything you do. What I go out for is not for you to determine or judge and you reflect blame back for being vulnerable vs any sense of duty you could take to help those with vulnerabilities. Keep trying, one day you may get it.

jagman

If you are going out as is your right to do so then don't complain about everyone else going out. You come off as a typical harpy scold, but of the male variety.

Greg F

Binky..haven’t been to subway in 8+months.

rbtdt5

Greg - If I thought going out would kill me I would stay home, but that's just me I guess. I guess enjoy going out and living in fear of everyone killing you. As to the glove thing, most places I go the cooks just wash their hands and don't wear gloves at all. I eat out 3-4 times a week, haven't been sick in over a year. I haven't talked to my folks in person in over 6 weeks due to they are high risk so they stay in. They take walks and drives but no stores. They are able to get everything they need delivered. Groceries, Mask, Meds. That's why I don't understand why you out if you feel people aren't being safe and you are at high risk of death. Do you want to complain that bad, or just have a death wish?

threecents

Food preparers should and do wear gloves to keep from spreading microbes that can cause gastrointestinal infections.

rbtdt5

Not all of them

bosco

Yes threecents, people who actually touch food should wear gloves and then change them if they touch any other surface. Those with gastro intestinal illnesses are prohibited from working in food service areas. Both requirements are in the FDA's food service sanitation manual which can be found online.

Nowhere is there a requirement for food servers to where gloves. In fact, FredCo health inspectors discourage the practice.

I don't mind if Doctor Fed Up GregF's buttons get pushed. He's a blowhard.

Joey Pesto

The "suggestions" of this nation, state, and local county or city are way to diverse. Why can we not all keep it simple? Everyone should be wearing a facemask in public unless you are eating. At that point your table, as most tables are in a restaurant, should be six or more feet apart. I cannot see the reason why a chiroprator can be open but a barber or nail salon cannot be. All everone needs to do is wear a fasmask and do the proper social distancing. If we would keep it simple more would adhere to the guidlines and more business would be in better financial shape.

Greg F

👍☝️😷😷😷

neilyoungfan25

For God’s sake people, give it a rest! To sit at home and criticize other people enjoying a meal and supporting local restaurants is indeed a sad state of affairs. If you aren’t comfortable doing that, it’s your choice. But please don’t bash other people who are! It’s not the end of the world. Gov Hogan issued a statement today saying cases and numbers are decreasing at a rapid rate.

threecents

1) Nope, it is not at all clear that the number of new cases per day has gone down in MD. Check the graphs in the link below to see for yourself.

2) The number of new cases per day appears to have leveled off BECAUSE of social distancing and masks. When we relax precautions the numbers will go up. I am not saying re-opening should not progress, but I am not being stupid about it either: It will cause more cases, largely because of both stupidity and selfishness.

vodalone

1) You're saying cases aren't going down.

2) You're saying cases have leveled off.

Your point is not very clear. There are a lot of factors and variables to consider, but one big one is more testing. More testing = more cases. More of the vulnerable population staying home = less hospitalizations/deaths. If you are vulnerable, it's on you to stay home, not on the others to stay home. We have followed this very basic principle in all of modern history, why change it and quarantine the healthy and non-vulnerable now?

awteam2000

I like the State and County’s precautionary measures. They only work if the community corporates. “So far, so go.”

So far the majority of folks follow the social restraints understanding it’s for public safety. I hope that continues as we reopen our society. Yeah It’s inconvenient, and there’s always a few for some reason won’t cooperate, but surprisingly the far majority are cooperative, a very small, negligible number aren’t. You know who you are and other know too.

Yes, We need to get the economy back in gear. But if we aren’t consistently testing, lack the means of tracing, or don’t have a reliable antibody test, (current test have a 50% accuracy rate), NO VACCINE we need to take recommended precautions.

How do you know whose positive, or infecting others? We need to have social distancing and prophylactic precautions in place . Covid-19 doesn’t express itself on contact. This is not a “stomach flu”. where you feel queasy last night and the next day you go to the drug store for a remedy, call your physician or go to the hospital for relief.

It takes weeks to express itself. Meanwhile pre-symptomatic or asymptomatic the virus - those unaware of being contagious, infect others only making matters worse.

Yes we need to put a toe, possibly a foot, even standing up at the low end of social exposure pool with a life guard standing by, but we shouldn’t all go diving in head first into the deep end of the potential infectious pool, without the appropriate safeguards. Who does that?

Be patient. There are very smart people out there, working around the clock. We’ll get there. The total solutions won’t come immediately. We need to maintain hope take caution and remain cooperative. With Everyone cooperating, we will get through this sooner.

Greg F

There are states that have falsified and skewed data by combining it with less affected states. Many areas are still going up...so this isn’t just miraculously going away like Orangeman wishes. How hard is it to just wear a mask? Your ancestors went through far more sacrifice than that for the sake of others and even went to wars...well except for President Bone Spurs. So you can’t even wear a mask to make it a bit less risky for everyone? How kind of you and so selfless. 🤒. Bless your heart.

jagman

"There are states that have falsified and skewed data by combining it with less affected states".

An utterly false statement, gregboy.

KR999

Don't forget V.P. Wheezy Creepy Uncle Joe Bite'em, GregF. He got out of the draft too, ya know.

Greg F

Was it bone spurs? Creepy? How about Donnie perc and walking in on nude teen pageant contestants and bragging about how he can get away with anything? That not creepy for you?

threecents

OMG Voda. Numbers of New cases per day are not going down in MD - those numbers appear to have levelled off, according to official statistics. Also, Many people are infected without any symptoms and are spreading the virus. The virus will become extinct if nobody spreads it. Everyone: Please try to avoid unnecessary risks. Make sense??????????????????? Be smart.

threecents

Sorry, Here is the link. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html

neilyoungfan25

Fair enough Cents! I need to look for that article that Hogan put out today. That is totally different from what you shared. Thanks

vodalone

[thumbup]

Jaco

By not social distancing, wearing a mask, or using common sense, people are at-risk of spreading Coronavirus and COVID-19, which then puts more, and more, and more, and eventually all of us at-risk of catching the virus. As others have said below, eating and talking increases the likelihood of spread through salvia even outdoors.

Greg F

If you are comfortable with bashing people with immunity issues then a healthy effffu for not even considering their needs also....or even those without that by simply wearing a GD mask that you find so harsh of a duty to accommodate others.

mdlady

Yes thank you!!!

vodalone

If you’re in the vulnerable population, stay home, protect yourselves, but everyone shouldn’t be made to suffer because of a few. If a family member has to go on chemo, does everyone else in the family do the same to show solidarity? Get a grip people.

bosco

Good point, vodalone. Notice how the media, including the FNP, seem to be avoiding breaking out the number of deaths in congregate living facilities? That's where the real problem is for the most vulnerable. As more tests are done the "experts" are finding that for the vast majority of the population the virus is a non-event. The media focuses on 100k deaths in the US but ignore the 400k who have recovered. [ninja]

awteam2000

You know you can go on the Maryland Health website and see the number of total test, positive cases and deaths at assistant living homes in Maryland? Just go on the site and chick on the “nursing home cases”. The fnp has pointed to the site multiple times in various Coronavirus virus updates . You may have missed it.

awteam2000

Bosco, If you are concerned about the risk of a love one in a assistant living facility in Maryland this might be of help -

Congregate Living Sites in Maryland Coronavirus data:

https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/pages/hcf-resources

bosco

Thanks awteam. My loved one is in a nursing home in the Midwest. I've kept in touch with the administrator there and they locked down early on and put everyone in masks - staff and residents - and put hand sanitizers in every room.

I would still like to see the FNP break out the congregate living facility deaths like they analyze every other conceivable demographic. It would only take one sentence. That's where the majority of the deaths are. Seems simple to me. [ninja]

Greg F

He didn’t miss it...he just wants to distract, deflect and mitigate. He’s a trump troll...and to him, anyone who has a vulnerability doesn’t matter and should just stay home so he and his sort can go out without the hassle of a mask that could allow them to go with lest risks to places he wants to tell us to stay away from. Those of us with vulnerabilities or the elder also contribute to the economy and have the same rights to go out. Yet he wants us all to get in the back of the bus as we are inferior and not worthy of him and his kind to take any precautions that may help others. Nope...they are subhuman so just stay home is is only repeated response. It’s his god given right since Adam and Eve were born maskless and Jesus never wore one and by god trump shows him how a real man can ignore the needs of others. Way to go Botco.

awteam2000

It’s right here.🤷‍♂️

Congregate Living Sites in Maryland Coronavirus data:

https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/pages/hcf-resources

Take a look.

awteam2000

Congregated Maryland Living Site Data:

Confirmed Resident Cases - 6,402

Confirmed Resident Deaths - 1,276

Confirmed Staff Cases - 2,929

Confirmed Staff Deaths -14

Total of all Covid-19 Maryland Deaths to date - 2,411

Greg F

Oh...so considerate. You can do as you please but to he11 with anyone else so long as you get your way. My, are you the considerate one.

vodalone

Why should we if there is no need to? I’m all for wearing a mask at indoor locations and in crowded places, but many here such as yourself would prefer everyone barricade themselves in their houses for the next year. The thousands of protestors around the country right don’t agree with you either.

Greg F

Yep...same attitude about vulnerable and minorities and other groups and you mitigating them like this is akin to telling them all to get in the back of the bus as they don’t matter. Trump is you...you are trump. Nobody else matters to your sort.

Dwasserba

I hope the herd opinion is accurate for their sake.

Dwasserba

https://youtu.be/JJpt6Bse0j8 A helpful person posted this on Nextdoor. It is thought provoking and references studies. Parts seem slow, keep watching. Maybe we should also be concerned about when patrons use restrooms.

Nancy Day

Thank you to the people at the table for their efforts at population control.

Greg F

Darwin Awards for them...

rbtdt5

Save one of those awards for those that know they are high risk and go out anyway.

Greg F

And I should lose rights RB because of a health issue and never go out in your opinion, while all you could do to help is wear a freakin’ mask? Get bent.

rbtdt5

What rights have you lost? Should everyone lose rights just because you can't or shouldn't partake? You are welcome to come out at your own risk. Is the risk worth the reward? For many it is. You seem to be one willing to take those risks based on your post but there will always be folks that don't follow the rules, just know that when you risk your life going out and make sure that it's worth it. You have the option of avoiding the situation.

Jaco

Do the six young people pictured at Hootch & Banter all live together? If not, they should be sitting 6 feet apart. Expect the COVID-19 numbers to go back up. Hootch & Banter does not have the room for safe outdoor dining. It looks better, safer and more spread out at La Paz, too bad the food’s not better.

jakereed

I'm so with you bro! I'm watching cities around the country burn on TV (in part because of lock-downs that are making people desperate and crazy) and none of these stupid rioters are maintaining a proper six foot distancing.

I mean, can you imagine burning down a building or smashing storefront windows without wearing a mask or maintaining proper social distancing? I even saw some looters drinking from the same bottle of vodka on MSNBC last night. What. Is. Wrong. With. People?

jayel86

Your exposure goes way down outdoors. We dont realize we are basically spitting on each other when we talk, indoors that becomes a problem with a contagion, outdoors not so much. You are not as surrounded by it on surfaces.

threecents

True, outdoors is generally much safer, but if you are eating and sitting right next to and across from people, then that safety factor mostly disappears.

Hollowed Ground

Officer Chauvin wasn't wearing a mask either, and yet he was very close to Mr. Floyd, much closer than 6 feet. At least for several minutes anyway.

threecents

[offtopic][thumbdown]

Greg F

💩4🧠

bosco

They could be a blended family - not that it's anybody's business but their own if the choose to sit together. [ninja]

threecents

Button pusher.

bosco

Yes siree. Some things need to be pointed out and if they push your button, all the more reason to.[ninja]

threecents

Bosco, The point we are making is that - as an example - it is fine if they all living together, but not if they don't. As a specific situation, I certainly wouldn't interrupt them to ask if they live together, but I would hope their situation was discussed with restaurant personnel before they were seated, so that everyone is behaving responsibly. Doesn't that make sense?

vjhughes

Yes, bosco is.

And no doubt he will be in the forefront of those screaming when his health insurance rates go up because of this crisis, or when his taxes go up because of hospitals having to pay more for their health care workers to get care when they get sick.

Greg F

And it is not your business why anyone goes out either....in the vulnerable crowd or not. It should be a consideration of others how to act around others...and if you’re a Jesus fan, do unto others, right? So your version of that is do unto others because I don’t care...and they don’t matter. You’ve posted it enough like that to know that’s exactly what you mean. Troll.

bosco

Calling someone a troll is really precious coming from Doctor Fed Up GregF, but name calling is your forte isn't it? [yawn][ninja]

Dwasserba

Greg is right on this point. It is not for restaurant personnel or anyone else to ask about relationships. Our daughter is Asian, we are not. Tens of thousands of families are like ours, keep up. Happened to me as a kid too, green eyed redheaded adoptee freak in a blue eyed brunette and shorter statured family of all birth relatives. Nobody ever had a right to ask for an explanation. No one is entitled. Covid doesn't change that. PS we're not out there to ask.

threecents

Bosco, You name called in the same post that you complained about name calling. Usually your button pushing is more subtle.

rbtdt5

I am just trying to understand why you complain so much that others are going to kill you by not following the rules when you go out and you choose to continue to go out. If what you say is true ( I don't see what you see) why are you still going out?

threecents

Jako[thumbup]

bosco

Jaco.... do the two people pictured at the same table live together? Sounds like an assignment for the mask police. They can branch off into checking IDs to make sure people dining together live together. Papers please. [ninja]

Greg F

I’m sure you’d like that king biscuit.

Greg F

Quoting Agent Kay...”A *person* is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.”

threecents

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