Coronavirus

This illustration, created at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reveals morphology exhibited by coronaviruses.

Frederick County reported the youngest death from COVID-19 Thursday.

A woman in her 40s died from the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2, according to the Frederick County Health Department. A woman in her 80s and man in his 60s also died because of COVID-19, said Rissah Watkins, director of planning, assessment and communications for the Frederick County Health Department.

The deaths were announced by the health department, bringing the total number of deaths in the county to 45.

The county now has 726 cases, which include two more cases in children 9 and younger. It’s an increase of 35 cases, slightly higher than what was reported Wednesday.

The county’s active cases is 477, when considering the number of deaths and the 204 people who have been released from isolation. That an increase of 11, since Wednesday and the highest number of active cases yet in the county.

But that number is unreliable, Dr. Randall Culpepper previously told the News-Post. As more people are diagnosed with COVID-19, it gets hard to track each case, meaning there are people who may have met the requirements for being released from isolation that are not counted.

Maryland reported one of its highest increases in new COVID-19 cases on Thursday, the day before Gov. Larry Hogan plans to announce the roadmap for recovery and plans for the reopening of the state.

Even as he prepares to announce plans to reopen, Hogan has repeatedly said the state is not yet ready to reopen, noting that the state is still seeing increases in deaths and hospitalizations.

The Maryland Department of Health reported 962 new cases of COVID-19 in the last 24 hours, the second highest jump in cases the state has seen since Maryland announced its first cases in early March. There are now 15,737 confirmed cases of the disease.

In addition to the increase in cases, the state health department reported 49 new deaths, continuing the trend of a high amount of new deaths reported each day. It is likely that this will be the deadliest week from COVID-19 in the state during the pandemic.

There are 1,405 people currently hospitalized, 890 are in acute care and 515 in intensive care.

Deaths and cases reported by the state and county health department continue to have discrepancies. For example, the state reported 690 cases of COVID-19 in Frederick County with 30 deaths.

But at the time the state numbers were released, Frederick County had 42 deaths and 691 cases.

These discrepancies are also seen in Carroll, Howard and Prince George’s counties, as examples.

Hospitalizations continue to rise, with 152 new people hospitalized. Despite the increase in hospitalizations, there are fewer people currently hospitalized than were a few days ago.

In Frederick County one more person was hospitalized, bringing the total to 43 residents ever hospitalized with COVID-19.

There are currently around 24 patients in Frederick Health Hospital due to COVID-19, spokeswoman Kelsey Shupe said in an email. Not all the patients at FHH may be Frederick County residents.

Generally, between a half to a third of COVID-19 patients require intensive care, said Dr. Manny Casiano, chief medical officer.

“We are finding that those who require hospitalization are more critically ill,” Casiano said in an email. “It is important for the public to understand that we continue to maintain available beds for patients needing ICU-level care, as well as those needing inpatient medical care.”

But while the hospital is seeing COVID-19 patients, one thing the hospital is not seeing is cardiac, stroke and appendicitis patients in the emergency department, Casiano said.

“We don’t fully understand this – is it that people are suffering at home with problems they’d normally have come to the ER for — which would be a bad thing — or have the number of other conditions actually gone down due to staying at home and social distancing?” he said in the email. “Nobody knows yet.”

The hospital is seeing decreases in heart patients, said Kristen Fletcher, director of Cardiac and Vascular Services, especially in heart attacks.

“It’s important to not delay care if someone is experiencing cardiac or stroke symptoms,” Fletcher said.

Emergency Department volumes significantly dropped, said Jennifer Kramer, director of Emergency and Respiratory Services. However, patients who do come in have higher acuity. The most common complaints for coming to the emergency department are respiratory symptoms and chest pain.

And while numbers are lower, Dr. Jonathan Wenk, medical director of Emergency Medicine, wants people to know that the risk of acquiring COVID-19 from coming into the emergency department are low.

“The risks of death or disability from delayed treatment of heart attack or stroke are extremely high,” Wenk said in an email.

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Heather Mongilio is the health and Fort Detrick reporter for the Frederick News-Post. She can be reached at hmongilio@newspost.com.

(91) comments

g8tkpr4101965

It is Sad that all Heather and the Media wants to Fill Peoples heads with is Negative Feed Back about this Virus. People Please Stop Panicking about what you Read NOT all the Stories Heather and the Media are putting Out are True or have to be so Negative. Here is a Post I made on Facebook Recently about My Discussion with Heather, also I would like to Add that My Aunt is Free and Clear of Covid19 now and back in Her Original Room doing Very Well... I recently spoke with a News Reporter from the Frederick News Post, Her name was Heather Mangilio. I asked Her what the story was going to be about and she said she was seeking people who had a Loved one in a Long Term Care Facility and who has Tested Positive for the Coronavirus, and wanted to speak with Family Members and get their opinion on how the Facility was handling the Patient. I almost immediately could tell by Her tone that She was looking for a Negatively Told Story and i responded by saying if your looking for me to say something Negative about the way the Facility is taking care of My Aunt at this time that's not going to happen. I then continued to explain to Her that My Aunt had Tested Positive for the Coronavirus about 3 weeks ago and that She has been placed in Isolation. To Break it down I I told Her since My Aunt has been at FH&RC She has been well taken care of and that the Staff has been extremely good about keeping me in the loop about how my aunt is doing and they contact me at anytime when there is a change in either Her Health or just minor thing like Changing or giving Her New Medications. During Her time in Isolation i have been contacted by either the Dr, the Nurse, the Social Worker or others who are part of Her Care Team about every 2-3 days to let me know of how things are going. I explained to Heather that everyone can be a Monday Night Quarterback and its easy to say could've or should've but all in all i think under the Stress and Circumstances this Virus has put on us all the Staff has done a Fabulous Job and I commend them for their Efforts and for taking such good care of My Aunt and Hope that anyone else who may have concerns about a loved one who may be at this Facility will get some relief from hearing this. It is SAD that the Media is normally only seeking Negative Type Stories and not the TRUTH... Again Thank you to all the Staff at the Fredrick Health and Rehabilitation Center for ALL You do...

Charles Bridge

What ever happened to common sense and perspective? Many people on both sides have blown things related to this virus way out of proportion. We still have much more in common than not & must stand together as one. We will get through this!

perceptiveperspective

For the flu comparisons (and I apologize if someone else mentioned this and I missed it): Flu season covers about an 8 month time frame. Using that CDC estimate of 61,000 flu related deaths over about 8 months, this would mean the flu kills about 7,600 people per month, give or take. Now, I skipped a lot of math class back in my day, but by my calculations that number pales in comparison to the 51,000+ people that have died from COVID complications over just the past 6 weeks or so. That's more than 25,000 deaths per month, and, again, my math may not be perfect, but last I checked 25,000 is much, much greater than 7,600, making COVID sooooo much deadlier than the flu. I really wish people would stop making that comparison.

gabrielshorn2013

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CheetoBenito

Everyone needs to calm down!!! Trump only suggested people inject themselves with bleach. It's not like he said anything dangerous like when Michelle Obama suggested kids should eat more vegetables!!!!

threecents

The nerve of that America hater.

phydeaux994

We have a cure!!! A handful of hydroxychloroquine pills, a Lysol shot, run around naked all day sucking up UV rays, and move your bed into a Sauna at 200 degrees. And the guy is DEAD serious. And he was elected the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES by a MINORITY of the voters WHO STILL 🖤🖤LOVE🖤🖤 HIM!!! You gotta be KIDDING!!!

vodalone

We're whether living in a simulation or God is punishing us for our choices.

KellyAlzan

Never thought I would say this, but I do know a Frederick Co resident whom has passed away from Covid-19.

Jleftwich

For those asking about the numbers, the reporter for this article has gone inside the numbers a bit on her Twitter feed: https://twitter.com/HMongilio/status/1253691584106901506?s=20

Crab0721

Prayers for her family and friends in this time of sorrow and prayers for all of the other families and friends that have lost loved ones from this virus.

Yes she might of had preexisting conditions but she got covid and died so that is why they classify it as she died from covid however they will list the other conditions she had as well. But since she got covid and died that is standard procedure because if she didn't get it she could have lived longer or died from another illness.

I am sick of people comparing this virus with the flu because you know when you have the flu and you have symptoms of the flu so you obviously stay home and away from people however if you have the covid virus you don't know if you have it because you don't have symptoms so you feel fine and you go out and you do what ever you want and then guess what you just infected me who is in my 30's who takes a chemo drug and another immunosuppressant and I get it and my 2 kids have to understand why they can't see their mother and if they will ever see her again alive and you could also infecte someone who is healthy enough to survive.

My question is do you care about other people's lives and how it would affect their families?

To me each time one of us that is going out could be a carrier and we could be possibly committing a murder but that is just how I feel about this virus. So I take every precaution that I can to make sure that I can keep you and everyone else's families and friends safe.

bosco

Wrong - you can have the seasonal flu and not know it during the incubation period, genetally 1-4 days. During that time, you are shedding flu virus.

How many people don't bother to get the flu shot every year?

Dwasserba

Her question was, "do you care about other people's lives and how it would affect their families?"

duffy5x

You just can’t help yourself, can you?

Moon otter

BO not the same type of viruses. poor analogy though you will never learn. Guess what you stink.

threecents

Bosco is correct and brings up some points: 1)Those who don't get the flu shot - such as Trump - put others in danger of a potentially fatal infection; 2) Perhaps people should be tested, wear masks, and/or social distance during the peak of flu season - at least until we develop a good universal flu vaccine.

DeplorableLocalVeteran

As much as I loathe Trump’s politics and his extremist ideology my faith instructs me to encourage one another and build one another up not tear them down. Ideally all Americans can find common ground to protect the homeland and grow prosperity but the reality is we cannot because it’s in the best interest of a small powerful minority.

DickD

We should not be correcting Trump's cult. Let them go to church, let them inject clorox. Let them go to movie theaters, barbershops, etc. There will be fewer of them come November.

veritas

My, such a sweet and loving sentiment, DickieD. Thanks for sharing and may you have a blessed day.

duffy5x

And he is ABSOLUTELY right. Have a blessed day....

Moon otter

DD hopefully the sooner the better. its like my boss use to say about smoking takes to long. just maybe this might be quicker.

Charles Bridge

The cult you speak of has many more people than the Biden cult, and you will see that in November when he wins by a landslide.

CheetoBenito

I wonder if the Email lady would have told us to drink bleach?

Acloserlook

I think we need targeted approach, not broad brush policies. We suspended some of our Constitutional rights so that we could limit fatalities, make sure that hospitals weren’t overrun and we had sufficient respirators. So we now have real data, not models. Those 65 and older represent 15% of Maryland’s population while also, sadly 80% of the deaths from Covid -19. Let’s protect that group. The remainder should begin moving back into the work force with current protection policies in place. Also let’s publish hospital capacity and utilization. Resources are limited, so let’s be smart about how we apply them and to the most critical areas in our communities. We’ll never have enough tests to perpetually test everyone all of the time. So put the test where they have the biggest positive impact, front line workers, nursery and assisted living, etc. Lets get going with some sound targeted public policy and stop looking at aggregate data points and broad brush policies.

awteam2000

When we finally have a vaccine will we have enough vaccinations 💉 for everyone? Aren’t there vaccines and test that everyone gets?

Moon otter

you need to test at least 20% of the population to get a true analysis. We were so far behind the eight ball on this one thanks to our "stable genius president" who by the way, who couldn’t fight his way out of wet paper bag. Back in January when the WHO told all countries about the virus. Countries were proactive nope not this country reactive and too late with the numbers increasing daily by the 2,000 in deaths. I can’t wait till this hits the rural areas in the fall if we relax the restrictions now. Good luck because they have non-existent health care.

CheetoBenito

Before injecting Clorox into your body, President Trump also recommends playing Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the U.S.A" and hold the needle to the speaker for 60 seconds. This will assure a successful injection and allow you to return to work. #MAGA #StableJenius

Jleftwich

You win the internet! [beam]

matts853

If the Lysol doesn’t work (or more likely kill you outright) Trump supporters could try swallowing a light bulb. But how do you get electricity to it? Do they make battery operated light bulbs? Maybe one of those little electric candle thingies you find at fine dining establishments, like at Trump properties, has enough Illumination to do a fantastic job, a super job, at killing the virus? Hopefully CDC is looking into that right now because this is so genius it’s well worth pursuing. Maybe Trump will provide more details today in the mean time. MAWA! Make America Well Again...

#moron!!!

DeplorableLocalVeteran

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Brookhawk

Checking out the various tabs on the graph, it looks like the 40-60 age group has been hit the hardest in Frederick County, and deaths are still on the upswing.

DeplorableLocalVeteran

Don’t listen to the lunatic don’t ingest poison

matts853

Darwinism just might turn the tide of the election.

DeplorableLocalVeteran

Ladies and gentlemen the reality is we never had a competent federal response to Covid-19 what we have is a desperate despot rolling the dice with human lives to remain in power. Many Republicans are now openly complicit in allowing a full throttled lunatic to kill their own.

DeplorableLocalVeteran

The is now suggesting injecting disinfectant into the body might be an effective treatment for Covid-19 , what do you have to lose?

Greg F

What a total degenerate we have as POTUS

matts853

Worst one in the history of the Republic, by a landslide.

rcfoster

Was the person sick with something else or was it strictly COVID that killed her?

cyntiast

Exactly please get more information on this case. Was there another cause of death but because they ALSO tested positive for the virus is that how cause of death is being recorded? Positive virus test overrides other causes?

Jleftwich

There are lots of people who have underlying conditions who live a full, healthy life and contribute fully to the economy and fulfilling important roles in the community.Some of those people have become ill from Covid, and ultimately succumbed to the disease. Covid is what killed them.

Even if you're healthy with no underlying conditions, you can get sick from Covid. I'm not in the medical profession, but guess what? If you're lucky enough to survive the illness, there is a chance you could end up with reduced lung capacity. That doesn't sound enticing.

There are many experts who say we are undercounting the death toll due to things like false negatives on tests, a lack of testing and people who have died at home without receiving a positive test.

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TINAE

And the lie detector test determined that this is the TRUTH. So many more who have died from this and were not counted. Rest their Souls. :(

awteam2000

Look at this way Cyntast, The Coronavirus virus exploits the immune system so the most vulnerable, the elderly and those with underlying conditions are most susceptible. So, for example: if you have a heart condition you’ll probably more likely go into cardiac arrest and die caused by the virus 🦠. We now know the first fatality in the US in Ca., on February 6, died from a heart attack caused by Covid-19.

awteam2000

Humans have five vital organs that are essential for survival. The immune system protects those organs. The Coronavirus attacks the immune system causing the immune system from protecting those organs, leading to death. You die from one or multiple organs failing.

threecents

Good job FNP. Those who want more info should google it.

DeplorableLocalVeteran

According to a new report from the Department of Homeland Security the fallout from the coronavirus outbreak is helping to fuel violence from domestic terrorists, as well as frustrated individuals.

The DHS report from March 24 says, a “racially motivated violent extremist espousing white supremacist extremist beliefs died after a confrontation with FBI agents in Missouri as they tried to arrest him for plotting to blow up a local hospital.

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jdmorris0527

To answer your first question, there is no number that would satisfy you. Your initial mention of the flu's fatality (61,000) considers the number of deaths over the course of a year. COVID-19 has killed nearly 50,000 in about 6 weeks. Without even considering an increasing rate, that would translate into over 400,000 deaths. There's no vaccine for COVID and no one knows how it will work its way through our population or for how long. I recommend that you go about whatever it is that you otherwise do and let natural selection be your guide.

jdmorris0527

I have to politely disagree. When the postmortem is done on the media’s coverage of COVID-19 (and it will be), it will be clear that the virus was no Black Plague — rather, it’s more on par with the flu on a bad year.

SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, has killed 61,514 Americans as of Today.

That’s not good. But it’s not as bad as the 2017-2018 flu season, when 80,000 -plus perished. And it’s a long cry from what all the experts were warning about just a few weeks ago: First, they predicted 1.7 million Americans dead; then they redid the models (this time apparently entering a few more “facts”) and said 100,000-240,000 dead if we imposed stringent social distancing measures.

Now, a major model relied on by the White House Coronavirus Task Force predicts about 72,433 dead by the August 4th. For that, we brought the U.S. economy to its knees and forced over 26 million Americans out of work, which has its own massive health implications. The same model has a projected 1,245 dead in Maryland by August 4th.

As the coronavirus swept across China, then Europe — then everywhere — the U.S. media breathlessly reported every terrifying number, almost gleefully. Their ratings soared, of course, as they scared the hell out of every American, many of whom have stayed home for the last 40 days, emerging only to buy toilet paper, but even then, clad in masks and tiptoeing in fear.

But here are some facts:

FATALITY RATE

A recent Stanford University antibody study estimated the fatality rate from the virus is likely 0.1% to 0.2%. The World Health Organization (WHO) had estimated that the death rate was 20 to 30 times higher and called for isolation policies. On which version do you think the media focused?

In New York City, the U.S. epicenter of the pandemic, the death rate for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01%, or 10 per 100,000 in the population. People aged 75 and older, though, have a death rate 80 times that. For children under 18, the rate of death is zero per 100,000. That’s zero.

HEALTH AND AGE

More than half of the COVID-19 deaths in Europe occurred in long-term care or nursing-home facilities. At least one-fifth of the deaths recorded in the U.S. so far have occurred there.

Nearly all the patients hospitalized for the coronavirus in New York City had underlying health conditions, according to a recent study.

“Health records from 5,700 patients hospitalized within the Northwell Health system — which housed the most patients in the country throughout the pandemic — showed that 94 percent of patients had more than one disease other than COVID-19, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association.

The study found 42% of the patients were overweight and 53% had hypertension, and the others suffered from a variety of ailments.

FAR MORE WIDESPREAD

Millions and millions of Americans have likely already been infected with the virus — even though the U.S. media continues to report the low numbers provided by Johns Hopkins, which says that 1.06M Americans have contracted the virus as of today.

An antibody study was conducted last week in New York City and found that 1 in 5 (21.2%) of residents have already been infected with the coronavirus. There are 8.5 million people in New York City, so that would mean 1.8 million New Yorkers alone have had the virus.

At the time of the study, there were 16,249 deaths in the city attributed to COVID-19, which means the death rate in the city was 0.89% at the time — far lower than reports in the U.S. media.

Results of antibody survey last week in Los Angeles found as many as 442,000 Los Angeles County residents might have already been infected with the coronavirus by early April, a number far higher than the 8,000 cases confirmed at the time. The survey suggested that the death rate from the virus could be as low as 0.18% of COVID-19 patients, which means the actual death rate in the city is far lower than reported.

The Daily Mail reported Monday that “coronavirus may kill 70 times fewer patients than official UK death figures suggest, studies have shown.” The Mail said a similar fatality rate — 0.19% — was found in a study of residents in Helsinki, Finland.

By comparison, the Swine Flu, or H1N1 influenza, in 2009 killed 12,469 across the U.S. and resulted in as many as 575,000 deaths worldwide. Some 80% of H1N1 victims were age 65 or younger, while in New York, 84% of the victims are over 60 and 65% are over 70 — but there was no shut down for the Swine Flu.

A study, this one by Dr. Justin Silverman, estimates that there were 8.7 million coronavirus infections in the U.S. between March 8 and March 28. And as of April 17, 10% of Americans have been infected — which would be roughly 33 million Americans.

Two California doctors, Dan Erickson and Artin Massih, co-owners of Accelerated Urgent Care, say it’s all much ado about not that much. “Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no. Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically no. … “The data is showing it’s time to lift,” Erickson said. Their video went viral but YouTube has since deleted it stating that what they said didn’t match what the CDC was projecting.

The doctors say locking down all of America “did not produce a statistically different number of deaths” versus not locking down all of America, PJ Media reported. “Millions of cases, a small number of deaths,” Erikson said.

The media has been hyping COVID-19 since Day One, alarming Americans to the point where they voluntarily went along with shutting down the entire economy — an action that will likely reverberate for a decade or more.

Even as U.S. states begin to re-open — based on the data, which shows a far lower fatality rate than reported and a much wider spread of the virus — the media continue to report on what they deem frightening numbers over the deadly virus.

The data is showing that COVID-19 is more like a bad flu than a Black Plague. And the media should be held accountable for telling us otherwise before they knew the facts.

jdmorris0527

Exactly how many deaths are needed to justify giving governments control of everything? Is it 20k? 80k? 150k?

The CDC estimates that 61,000 Americans died from the flu during the 2017–18 flu season (with a range of 46,000 to 95,000 deaths). Few of us even remember that event. Stores stayed open, folks met and worked, and everyone lived as normal.

Taking sixty-one thousand deaths as our baseline, how deadly does a virus have to be to justify the destruction of our livelihoods and economy in general?

Half as deadly? As deadly? Would twice as deadly cross the panic threshold? That would be just twice something we didn’t notice while it was happening. So maybe even double is not enough.

No one is ever safe, ever. But we all lived lives in a world of uncertainty. That is, until many panicked and allowed governments to drive us into our own caves, so to speak.

But who incited panic? Media, like The Frederick News-Post l fredericknewspost.com and social media initially sounded the alarm, sparking fear. However, it was government that provided justification for that fear, wrapping dour pronouncements in a veneer of supposed science and truth. Soon the panic threshold was breached. While the various media live off provocative headlines, government lives off fear.

So we end up with this strange symbiotic relationship: with the aid of a friendly media, government justifies the fears it propagandizes; constituents panic and turn to both government for help and the media for information. Certainly, it has to be this way. Why? Because government rules through the consent of the governed.

Not too long ago, the devised enemy was ISIL—haunting the Levant in Toyota trucks. We were told daily that ISIL was readying a strike against the US some fifty-five hundred miles away. Plausible? Hardly. However, the propaganda machine was able to create some angst, for some time, anyway.

Today the enemy is through the gate unseen, infiltrating bodies and minds. COVID-19 is a government’s dream. Folks who just yesterday, or so it seems, said certain acts of government, such as closing churches, would ignite rebellion, gladly consent to authoritarian edicts. But why?

There is the manufactured fear, the product of the propaganda machine—the good doctors making dire predictions about likely death counts, surrounded by somber officials, all standing near a dais backed by the richly colored, acronymed logo of some official sounding agency. Great video, great propaganda.

But there is more. Government is blaming the virus, not itself. That serves several purposes. It allows government to employ a misdirect, pilfering the public purse and annulling rights while the masses concern themselves with social distancing.

So you hear statements that twist reality in this manner: “The virus will let us know when we can reopen the country.” As if the virus is dictating policy.

We are told that government officials are only reacting as the virus commands. And the enforcement agents spreading tickets and handcuffs are simply shouldering the horrible tasks that must be pursued.

Is this how we, the people, choose to live? In a world where government foments fear for its own purposes and then stands back, blaming its actions on an enemy of its own creation?

Once more, how deadly does a virus have to be to justify the destruction of our livelihoods and economy in general? Twice the usual? Three times? I can’t decide the issue for all. I simply ask you to consider first what we are allowing (crashed economy, record unemployment growth, exploding government debt, unconstitutional government edicts, well, you get the picture).

And I ask you to consider who, or what entities, are benefiting. It is true that some cui bono (to whom it is a benefit) arguments are fallacious, but not all. However, consider this: besides a shift of rights and power from the people to the state, there is that matter of trillions moving from our wallets to those of the friends and families of the politically connected.

As I wrote above, no one is ever safe, ever. But until a month ago, we all accepted a world of uncertainty and didn’t panic. What was true then is true today—to be free is not to be safe. However, to live free is to live. Period.

threecents

Obviously our leaders have to look at the costs/benefits of whatever path is chosen, and Temporary freedoms are part of that figurative equation. Take this example - if you were in the Congo during the height of Ebola and came to the US, you would have been quarantined for 21 days. That made sense, right? I am not saying that the decisions to shut down were correct or not, but there are many factors that had to be considered - including temporary freedoms.

jsklinelga

jdmorris

Well written but a bit of a stretch. Do you really believe Americans are dumb? In part you may be correct about pilfering the purse but the rest is a stretch. it has a Trey Gowdy ring to it and I think his conspiracy rant yesterday belongs in left field somewhere. And I am an avid Trump supporter. I just wonder how the hospital workers would view your opinion. Or maybe the situations in Italy and Spain were fabricated. To view this as a major contrived conspiracy belongs in a post from someone like FCPS , Alice Jones or DickD. Not from someone who writes as well as you.

DickD

Jim, we don't believe Trump's lies, you do. You are the gullible one!

duffy5x

Yes, we believe that many Americans are that dumb. You’re a trump supporter. There’s your proof.

Jleftwich

I think you've gone a *tad* extreme in your views of gov't looking to use Covid-19 as an excuse to strip rights. And yeah, I know the comeback will be: "But they already have DONE that with these draconian measures!"

There are reports out just the afternoon that 21 percent of people tested for coronavirus antibodies in NYC had them. Think about that ... if that holds across the rest of the US, then it means the attack rate is much higher than thought.

This bug didn't just magically appear in January. It's been here. The IC reports were throwing up red flags back in November.

You bring up comparison with the flu. [rolleyes]

As I understand from what I have read (others on this forum who seem to be educated in epidemiology can check my work), coronavirus seems to infect about 2 to 2.5 additional people. That's higher than the flu. The average person with the flu spreads the flu virus to about 1.3 others. And *here is the key* there are reports stating presymptomatic transmission is higher because people who have Covid, but are not showing signs, are more frequently transmitting the virus. Whereas people who have the flu are MOST contagious AFTER symptoms begin.

Thus, the reason to take such drastic measures.

If I'm wrong about that, then I'll go back to yelling at clouds and kids walking on my lawn. [wink]

Jleftwich

I'll add on: "Whereas people who have the flu are MOST contagious AFTER symptoms begin."

Meaning, we *know* to stay away form someone who is hacking, coughing wheezing. Covid may not present itself that way at first, but it's just as contagious.

gabrielshorn2013

Spot on for all counts jleftwich.

Greg F

How many lives have you got to risk by some moron not doing the right thing. I’d not trust you to do anything right.

TINAE

Go out and have a good time then. Mean while, I'll play it as safe as possible, because I don't want the flu or Covid-19. Have a good time.

KellyAlzan

The graphs are misleading to an extent.

The graphs show the total number of reported cases. And the graphs show it going up, up, up, and up. Well that's because the graph is total number of cases. So it has nowhere to go but UP.

There should be a graph that tracks "active cases". Because then we can see downward trends and see leveling off. Active cases would subtract those that have passed away and those who have recovered.

Again, the current graphs have no where to go but up! As the current graphs are tracking each reported case.

Please consider my sugestion

chesapeakecountry

There are tabs at the top of the graph you can click on that show these other numbers.

threecents

Here is good web site showing new cases per day and deaths per day.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html#cases

skipsd0g1

The graphs and charts are indeed very good. thanks.

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bosco

And it will continue to go up as more tests are conducted. We need a graph on total hospitalizations and a graph for recoveries and releases.

Greg F

Why? So you can feel all warm and fuzzy?

bosco

Because figures don't lie, but liars figure. I'm always interested in what the media chooses not to report or record in order to get the full picture. For example, when the unemployment rate hits, say 15%, that means that 85% are still working. They don't report that.

duffy5x

Why? All you do is defend trump and his idiocy.

Hydra4108

I have been asking for active cases, too! That is the number we need. Plus, we need to know the positive cases per the date of the test....not the date that it gets put onto a spreadsheet somewhere. PLEASE!!!

Jleftwich

Not to be snarky, but are bothering to look at the graph that shows "Frederick Cases" ? There is a tab that reads "New and Total". That will show you active cases.

KellyAlzan

Myself, I have clicked on the tabs on the graph. I feel like the graph(s) could be done better. I hope whoever done these graphs will give some thought to making them better

Hydra4108

The number we need is the positive cases as reported by the date of the test. I'm glad they finally started reporting the number of active cases. Looking forward to when coronavirus.maryland.gov starts reporting it!

Hydra4108

We can't assume that the "new" cases figure is the number of "new" cases in one day. If opening the state is predicated on a declining number of new cases over a two week period, we need to see the number of new cases as reported by the date of the test, or the date of the unset of symptoms. See the Virginia department of health Covid-19 website for an example. Also, some people are receiving both the blood test and the nasal swab test at the same time. Are we sure that the "number of tests" figure reflects INDIVIDUALS testing positive, or number of positive tests?

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jsklinelga

Alice Jones

Not all states are like MD which is in the upper bracket of number of cases per thousand. We should worry more about controls in MD than what is happening in other states.

patomd969

My heart goes out to people with Covid and their families. According to this article, 1,405 people in Maryland are currently hospitalized with the virus. The Maryland Hospital Directory states there are 72 hospitals in the state. Therefore by averaging it out, you could say there are an average of 20 people per hospital - although I know that is not the case, depending on the population surrounding the hospital. So why the lack of medical equipment and supplies for hospitals, in general, when some hospitals may have only one or two cases? Are there other patients in the hospital as well? It's been said that some local hospitals are laying people off or reducing the number of hours they work. Fact or fiction?

jsklinelga

patomd969

"My heart goes out to people with Covid and their families." Amen. And also the folks who are struggling financially. I know of 1 major convenience store that closed its doors today. That was a tough business decision. I wish Frederick County would be more forthcoming with information concerning the "hot spots." Maybe other stores should be required to shut down. (just an opinion)It is time for us to get this under control for everyone's sake..

Laura L

My heart goes out to those who need to read while in quarantine.

Brookhawk

We're still on the upswing in infections and deaths. We are not ready to "reopen."

threecents

True, but I think the number of new cases per day has leveled off.

duffy5x

Um...not even close.

threecents

Duffy, The MD curve of new cases per day has flattened. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html#cases

threecents

Obviously the flattening of the deaths per day curves will lag behind the flattening of the number of new cases per day curves.

Greg F

Data...or go away.

threecents

How many times do I have to post this link, and there are others you can google. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/maryland-coronavirus-cases.html#cases

chesapeakecountry

As more people get tested these numbers have to go up. Is a greater percentage of citizens infected now than two weeks ago? You can't say that using these numbers. It only lists the number of people who have tested positive. Seeing how we have less people hospitalized now than before I would tend to think we have either reached the peak or moved slightly past it.

Hydra4108

Agreed. We need better data . Too much is at stake to work with "general" numbers.

threecents

There are plenty of web sites with the data you are talking about. You shouldn't expect a local paper to cover it at a high level.

Greg F

Sad but local papers used to do this until y’all decided to go online free and drop your paid subscriptions. I get a paper copy. Do you?

threecents

Yes I am a longtime FNP subscriber and am also capable of googling. Are you?

Hydra4108

The trend line for "deaths by date of death" is not sharply rising. How do we know that we are increasing infections? The number of new infections could contain positive infections from one week ago--in other words, is it possible that the daily figure that is being reported could contain test results as much as a week old??

Greg F

Are you an expert? Thought not.

duffy5x

Yes, you keyboard warriors have all the answers. Eye roll

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