Old News-Post building Hotel

A bird’s-eye view of the former Frederick News-Post building on East Patrick Street as seen looking north from the top of the All Saints Street parking deck.

Prior agreements about a proposed downtown hotel and conference center took center stage Tuesday as the Frederick County Council considered a five-party memorandum of understanding that would help secure state funding.

Councilmen Kirby Delauter (R) and Billy Shreve (R) indicated they would not support the current proposed agreement. Democratic council members pointed out that it was similar to an agreement both men passed unanimously in 2014 while on the then-Board of County Commissioners.

The agreement at hand forms a broad framework for responsibilities and funding sources of a proposed $84 million public-private partnership with Plamondon Hospitality Partners. Plamondon plans to build a 200-room hotel and 24,000-square-foot conference center along Carroll Creek. About $30.35 million will come from city, county or state government funding mechanisms.

The county’s role in the agreement is approval of a $2.8 million TIF, or tax-increment financing, bond.

The TIF lets the county use a portion of anticipated property tax revenue generated from the project to be issued as bonds to fund the project’s development.

Former county Chief Administrative Officer Doug Browning, now working as needed as a special projects manager for the county executive’s office, pointed out the similarity between the 2014 agreement and the current proposal.

But Shreve said Browning “is mistaken” if he thinks the new agreement is similar to the former one.

“If you want to try to pin this on the previous Board of County Commissioners, that is false,” Delauter said. “Totally false.”

He said things changed in the intervening years, including other proposed conference centers in the city.

Randy Cohen, owner of the FSK Holiday Inn, has planning approval to overhaul his hotel and conference center property. He has been a vocal critic of the public funding components of the proposed downtown project.

“When I voted on this in 2014, as a commissioner, we weren’t picking winners and losers in the hotel business,” Delauter said.

But Councilwoman Jessica Fitzwater (D) and Councilman Jerry Donald (D) read portions of the 2014 agreement, the purpose of which was “to show support of ... and agree in concept” to use a TIF for the proposed downtown hotel project.

“To say that what is on the table now is a 180 from that is just completely false,” Fitzwater said. “I’m not saying there haven’t been changes; there clearly have been. But the portion of the county’s funding that we’re discussing right now is ... it can’t be more similar to what was written in 2014.”

Councilman Tony Chmelik (R) said he didn’t oppose the $2.8 million county contribution through a TIF, but doesn’t agree with the larger puzzle that includes that money.

Delauter said he was concerned about the finances of the Maryland Economic Development Corp., or MEDCO, which the state created to finance private projects. MEDCO likely will issue state capital bonds for the proposed downtown conference center, but Delauter listed other projects the organization financed that have failed to meet estimated revenue.

The Frederick Board of Aldermen is slated to vote on the proposed agreement on Oct. 20.

It will come back to the County Council for a vote on Oct. 25.

According to the agreement, the city of Frederick would own the land, a 1.86-acre tract that is the former site of The Frederick News-Post.

The city will lease a portion of the site to the developer for the hotel, which will be built and owned by Plamondon.

The city will also lease a portion to MEDCO, which will own the conference center.

MEDCO will then enter an agreement with Plamondon, which will assume sole responsibility for conference center operations.

Plamondon will agree that the city, county and state will have no ongoing obligations for the hotel and conference center operations.

The city can decide to operate and maintain on-site parking, which will be open to the public, or can hand that to the operator.

The city of Frederick’s costs will be about $5.95 million: $2.2 million in tax-increment financing or a similar funding mechanism, $3.5 million in cash and bond revenue from the city parking fund; and $250,000 allocated in the city’s capital budget, according to the draft agreement.

The county would use tax-increment financing or a similar mechanism to provide $2.8 million in funding, the agreement says.

During the 2016 General Assembly session, state lawmakers pre-authorized $15 million from the state's capital bond budget — which would be overseen by either the Maryland Stadium Authority or MEDCO — for the next two budgets. But funding must be in Gov. Larry Hogan’s proposed 2018 and 2019 budgets or added by the General Assembly.

Lawmakers also allocated an additional $1 million capital budget expense for early stages of downtown hotel planning and construction. That expenditure is contingent on the completed memorandum of understanding. The agreement must go back to legislative budget committees, which will have 45 days to review and comment.

The proposed hotel and conference center property at 200 and 212 E. Patrick St. is owned by a business entity formed by members of the Randall family. The Randall family also owns the parent company of The News-Post.

Follow Danielle E. Gaines on Twitter: @danielleegaines.

Danielle E. Gaines covers politics and government in Frederick County, splitting her time between Winchester Hall and The State House. Having grown up in Illinois, she lived in New York and California before settling in Maryland.

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mrnatural1

Contrary to what some have claimed, if approved, this project would receive TIFs and other public financing:

Quote from the article above:

"The city of Frederick’s costs will be about $5.95 million: $2.2 million in tax-increment financing or a similar funding mechanism, $3.5 million in cash and bond revenue from the city parking fund; and $250,000 allocated in the city’s capital budget, according to the draft agreement.

The county would use tax-increment financing or a similar mechanism to provide $2.8 million in funding, the agreement says.

During the 2016 General Assembly session, state lawmakers pre-authorized $15 million from the state — bond funding from either the Maryland Stadium Authority or MEDCO — for the next two budgets. But funding must be in Gov. Larry Hogan’s proposed 2018 and 2019 budgets or added by the General Assembly.

Lawmakers also allocated an additional $1 million capital budget expense for early stages of downtown hotel planning and construction."

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That's an awful lot of our money going to a private, for-profit business. Here are some questions taxpayers might ask:

What is this government’s past record, when we compare promised results with ultimate return or loss?

Why is this project needed?

Why does that need exceed all conventional needs for public funds?

What will other government units lose? How much more will their taxpayers have to pay?

Of all possible TIF projects, why is this one a top priority?

Who benefits: all citizens, a small segment or primarily the recipient?

How much money is involved?

Why are those who will profit unwilling to invest what is needed? Are their reasons equally applicable to taxpayer funding?

Does the business plan indicate financial success, or reveal risks of failure?

If and when the recipient fails, skips town, goes bankrupt, or misses deadlines, how will taxpayers be protected?

What relationships are there between the potential recipient and the officials approving the funding?

How will the recipient’s unfunded private competitors be harmed?"

I would like to hear the proponents of the conference center address these very reasonable, legitimate questions.

KellyAlzan

this deal could not be any more crooked; its almost as if Ba'Lane Young had a hand in crafting it........

MAVRICKinc7

In a manor of speaking the YOUNG FAMILY did have a hand in crafting this proposal. Ron Young and his wife Karen Young played and plays a significant role in this DEAL while supporting their long time friend; RANDALL FAMILY. All you have to do is connect the dots and stay on message, instead taking the Frederick News Post for granted.

Some awfully good questions have been asked, BUT what are the odds the citizen population will ever get the ANSWERS they seek? This spot on the wall has always been about FAMILY VALUES and FAMILY CONTROL of tax payer assets. There is no way that FAMILY will give up their need to remain in the driver's seat of Frederick governance; by hook or crook.

DickD

Maybe I missed it with all the changes and articles, but why is the old Randall newspaper building the only suitable place for the hotel and convention center, can anyone tell me?

KellyAlzan

And why is the operation of the conference center not being put out to bid, why is it simply being HANDED over to the Plamandoons?

Lets see if we can compile a list of other viable sites within city limits:

1) Fredericktown Mall

2) The soon to be "old Walmart" on Monocacy

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kimberlymellon

Absolutely the management of the conference center should be put out for bid. Great point!

gary4books

Handed? They "won" the competition.

MAVRICKinc7

What is it about a DONE DEAL don't you get? Read the leases, follow the FACTS, and connect the dots. YOU will see for yourself COMPETITION was never been in play, nor is it now. COMPETITION is not something we'll find in Frederick City/ County anytime soon.

Pull back the last ten years of Frederick and you'll see what I mean. You're our CARNIVAL BARKER of a three ring circus called FREDERICK. Taking a leap of faith, and "trust me" just doesn't cut it anymore.

kimberlymellon

Question: Looking at the FNP "Bird's Eye View" photo, how many of you can picture an 85' ft - 7 story big box hotel with a Red lite Marriott marquee and perceive it as an improvement to the skyline?

kimberlymellon

What about privacy? If this is the view from the 4 story All Saints street deck, just imagine how many properties - windows - residential and commercial - the top floors and rooftop "Spires" bar guests will have access to.

DickD

Do you know that is what is planned?

kimberlymellon

Count the floors on the model and google the standard heights and you should come up with 85'+/-

Burgessdr

Melon, your claim of 85 feet is a fallacy. City code restricts the height to 60 feet. Might consider reading it.

kimberlymellon

Burgess, Perhaps the request for an exception is pending to accommodate the model or 2 of the proposed floors are being designed for midgets?

kimberlymellon

Make that 'vertically challenged.' [smile]

francesca_easa

I don't want the conference center for several reasons: 1) Destroys the view of the clustered spires; 2) 200+ rooms would take away from the walkability; 3) I highly doubt anyone is going to be earning the minimum wage needed to survive $15/hour.

A conference center/civic center at Fredericktowne Mall does make sense. No reason why attendees can't take shuttles into downtown. Might be a good job creator for car services or to build a skytram.

kimberlymellon

You have some very good points. Here's why: The proposed conference center isn't in a designated HUB Zone - areas identified at the federal and state level as economically challenged areas targeted for the expenditure of acquisitions to boost jobs and spending into the zone. There is a small HUB Zone on East Street near reliable recycling that would qualify and perhaps also along the golden mile, but that would have to be checked. Folks like Burgess, who tell big tales of federal grant funded civil war conferences being forced to Hagerstown for a lack of conference locations in Frederick fail to recognize that there are procurement regs and policies in place to prioritize locating conferences in economically challenged areas, hence, Hagerstown selection. If we are going to invest public money to become the owners of a publicly held conference center, shouldn't we also be fully informed of our consumers regs and requirements? Clearly, we're not. yet we tout Ft Detrick as a top reason for the need of this conference center. The golden mile might just fit that need perfectly. That is, of course, if you believe the public should be competing with the private sector which has proposed at least two other facilities within a five mile radius of Ft. Detrick....

sofanna

Agree again. People don't seem to have a problem taking public transportation in Baltimore, Rockville, Gaithersburg, Philadelphia, Seattle, Los Angeles, Harper's Ferry, and even Frederick from the county into the city. Why are "you" expecting visitors to not want to use Frederick's public transportation? Frederick town mall, could accommodate this project probably with little infrastructure costs. Historic Frederick would not be demolished. People do visit the city and surrounding areas for its history. So much has been torn down already, and to build this monstrosity, much of historical East street, Carroll street, and surrounding streets will disappear for this d*** project. Yes, I'm very angry. Having been born at FMH before all of the expansions and raised in Frederick County, I take this subject very personally. I believe if the majority of the residents of Frederick County showed up at one of the 'meetings' and were presented the original facts we were told and the current facts being railroaded through the approval process, many of the residents would vote NO to this project being done in Historic Downtown Frederick.
And, no, I don't want to read all the archives of the project that are scattered here, there, and every else.

KellyAlzan

Even when in Ocean City......we use public transportation!!

bicep42

Why aren't developers vying to build this "much needed " hotel and conference center with their own funds if it's going to be a huge success? I would think that there would be tremendous competition for a "sure thing " project of this magnitude.
Why do the plans keep changing? Why do the cost estimates continue to spiral out of control? Why are taxpayers expected to contribute one dime to this? Why are they considering a design that's an eyesore and not the least bit aesthetically appropriate?
Why is this being pushed on the taxpayers without adequate time for public comments and input?
Why?

sofanna

Agree

bosco

Why? To enrich the Randall$ and the Plamondon$ with the help of the Young$

MAVRICKinc7

We're just along for the ride. The only thing the private sector wants from US is our tax dollars. What do you think a TIF is, but an INCREMENTAL TAXING strategy government and development interest use in their own best interest, because they can't afford to borrow on the open market. That's why we have bond referendums; secure the most money for development strategies and then hand it over to development to use at THEIR discretion. It's just another convoluted circle that government and development interest use on a daily bases and using the FNP and their editorial staff, as their messenger with a caveat always attached at the end of their publication. This is one of the reasons the PUBLIC is used, like so many other cattle calls we've witnessed over many decades and generations of FAMILY CONTROL, much like there is no competition to be found in Frederick, except with OTHER family members.

sofanna

Shame on all those connected with this outrageous project. The taxpayers weren't supposed to be 'tapped' with increases to pay one dime toward this project. Now the 'OFFICIALS' will do anything to get this taxhog built.

Our taxes should NOT be increased for this project.
SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS, SCHOOLS!!
What don't any of you not understand about the NECESSITY for school funding, decent wages for teachers, the hundreds of homeless students (and probably their families), school supplies, overcrowded classrooms, not enough teachers! on and on and on?

In 1995 we pulled our son out of public schools in Frederick County because he was not receiving the education he deserved, despite the fact that we were and continue to be taxpayers. For 4 years we continued paying taxes AND paid for private school. He excelled and graduated with a scholarship to college. 21 years later public schools are even more overcrowded, have fewer teachers, inadequate supplies funding, inadequate teacher pay, students who are homeless, etc, etc, etc.

BUT Frederick City MUST have this disastrous building, and the taxpayers were lied to because our taxes will be incrementally INCREASED to help fund this project when we were told not a dime of our taxes would be used. This project will be railroaded through the approval process with no regard for the county's students.

Again, this is shameful.

BlueDawn666

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] This project IS BEING railroaded through the approval process with no regard for the county's students

MAVRICKinc7

NOR its citizen population.

jerseygrl42

Danielle, you mention the parking deck but leave out its cost...just because Griffin says he wants to treat it separately , despite the fact it is an integral piece of this giveaway. You need to tell your readers the WHOLE story including the $20 + million for the deck which will push the cost to the taxpayers close to $50 MILLION...this is a good deal ONLY for the two families, Randall and Plamondon who will benefit financially at the expense of the city , county and state taxpayers while our school children are taught in trailers because we have no money for new schools. If it can't stand on its own 2 feet it should not be built

kimberlymellon

Shreve and Delauter are correct. Public funding to Plamondon will unfairly impact - positive and negatively- Plamondon's Diwntown Hotel and Conferenxe Center as would and public funding of hotels in the range designated in Jan Gardner's ordinance. These decisions have been made fact free of any review of government regulations for the booking of conference travel and federally funded travel by employees, their contract staff and guests. Fact: 1: whitehouse directive to all federal agencies to reduce the cost to taxpayers and hold meetings at government facilities post GSA Vegas debacle. Fact 2: acquisition planners and travelers must justify the conference rates and lodging against three like facilities within a minimum of a five mile radius. This includes locations like the Holiday Inn with ample free parking and the proposed JTP facility, just to name two. Fact 3: government contractors cannot favor one vendor over all others when government funds are utilized for federal travelers . They must abide by federal acquisition regs (FAR). Fact 4: hotels usually provide the meeting space - conference space- for free in package deals that include lodging. Fact 5: government funded travelers must utilize per diem lodging - $98.00 a night in Frederick. When I repeatedly asked Plamondon's VP, Joe Briglia if the downtown hotel would provide per diem rate rooms to the county's largest employer, Ft Detrick, his answer was an unequivocal "No. They may stay at outlying hotels" - which Plamondon also owns.
Summary: Yes, this is wrong. Publicly funding this facility may bring rightful suits of discriminatory practices by the city and county against fair competition among vendors. There will be legal restrictions against a bias for federal use of downtown facilities. And due to the per diem issue, this could be a boon for the upper class 1% or a bust for the rest of us, the majority of Frederick City and County. In my humble personal opinion.

Thewheelone

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MAVRICKinc7

Isn't this the same sales strategy that has been used from the outset? Take two different projects, price them out as one project to the citizen population and then divide them up into PHASES and multiple boxes and treat each one of those boxes as a separate funding mechanism that government and development get to use as the pricing goes higher, as is being proffered now with this article, as the price keeps going higher on EACH separate box, so as to make for more confusion in the public sector, by ADDING more players and deals to what was once a done deal. This scheme and GAME plan has been used by the 1% for decades and generations of FAMILY business owners.

gary4books

People who come to Frederick for a good meal and to walk around in a classic urban scene like Frederick. So do I. When we have visitors we take them downtown. People checking out craft brews will do the same and many will want a hotel that is close and in walking range to stay over night before they go home. Some may even want to stay another day if there are close attractions to drive to. I can think of several. I relay do not think of winners and losers, but many who have shops near the new hotel will win.

KellyAlzan

Really?

Thewheelone

Kelly, I am adamantly opposed to taxpayers footing any of the cost of this project, but I disagree with you that Frederick is not a suitable destination for people to come and that folks would rather go elsewhere. I work downtown in a local business on Fridays and Sundays and the number of visitors we get is astounding. I make an effort to ask folks where they come from and many, many of them are from areas outside Frederick and they love coming here for our shops and restaurants downtown. I cannot help but think that this hotel will boost business downtown. As a city and county taxpayer do not like the idea of my money paying for it but I think it will be good for our city.

KellyAlzan

I never said it's "not suitable". As that's not the case.

I said that Frederick has a strong prospect of competing with a proposed hotel in a nearby neighboring town. And of the two possible choices, the other town is much more appealing, especially in the fall.

KellyAlzan

Also, Frederick does not have anything of any significance. No Naval academy. No inner Harbor. No colonial Williamsburg. No kings dominion. No amish culture.

While we certainly have visitors, there is no demand to warrant this hotel conference center.

Thewheelone

Kelly, I meant to say that you usually insist the The Hilltop House in Harpers Ferry is a better location. I am not sure about that.

KellyAlzan

Frederick news post has reported that Frederick will be targeting the DC market to utilize the proposed Frederick venue.

Someone affiliated with the developer of the Hilltop site is saying that they will be targeting the DC market.

So.......if you have 2 choices, 1 is a facility in Frederick with a concrete man made creek and thee other is on a hill overlooking national parkland, and (2) major rivers, and is an easy drive to get to, and you can tour historic Harpers Ferry - what would you choose?

People from the DC market are from the city / surburban area. Think bout it, why would they choose to conference in the same setting as where they live; when they can select a proposed facility with a view to die for.....

gary4books

Truly.

Dwasserba

We often stay in whatever hotel seems closest to an airport before we fly out, irrespective of what it costs, so....wsit. whoops

kimberlymellon

Sounds lovely. We don't need a conference center for what you described.

MAVRICKinc7

BUT isn't your sales pitch based on SPECULATION and GUESS WORK? Or, do you have a crystal ball that tells you so?

Fredmd21704

Remember when Frederick use to have a hotel across from the Weinberg? Good Times.

DickD

Very seldom do I agree with Billy and Kirby, this time I do, For whatever reason, the Democrats have sold out to the Plamondons and Randalls. Now, I don't believe the reasons Billy and Kirby gave, but I really don't care what their reasons are. Personally, I feel they are just being obstinate, but this time it is good for the taxpayers.

MAVRICKinc7

Walking on both sides of the fence...AGAIN?

BlueDawn666

Similar is not the same

Councilmen Kirby Delauter (R) and Billy Shreve (R) indicated they would not support the current proposed agreement. Democratic council members pointed out that it was similar to an agreement both men passed unanimously in 2014 while on the then-Board of County Commissioners.

Did you ll miss Kirby's comments about MEDCO....that info wasn't in the 2014 agreement..was it?
Delauter said he was concerned about the finances of the Maryland Economic Development Corp., or MEDCO, which the state created to finance private projects. MEDCO likely will issue state capital bonds for the proposed downtown conference center, but Delauter listed other projects the organization financed that have failed to meet estimated revenue.

This doesn't mean you should sign this MOU again..just because it was similar to he one in 2014...the one in 2014 had no mention of MEDCO and their dismal business record, this one has even more warning bells in it and the dems are getting ready to sign on the dotted line just because......

Plamondon will agree that the city, county and state will have no ongoing obligations for the hotel and conference center operations....will the city and county have Plamondon sign the Guaranty, I have emailed all County Council members and the BoA a draft of the Guaranty. Will they make Peter sign it? It is fair to request elected officials to require his personal guaranty before they make the MOU.
They should....you know to make Peter put his money where his mouth is. Also is would ensure this:

His signature on the Guaranty will help insure that the Developer will actually perform its obligations under the MOU and will not attempt to avoid its obligations by:

- seeking the protection of the federal bankruptcy laws; or

- engaging in political, lobbying, public relations & campaign finance activities to secure favorable amendments to the MOU.


Remember Commissioner Thompson's 2012 request that those members of the ""Young" BOCC who approved the Landsdale PUD DR&RA personally guarantee the developer's obligations under the DR&RA served as an inspriation for the DH&CC Guaranty.

His failure to sign the Guaranty would suggest that he may not have the faith and confidence in the DH&CC that his public statements would indicate. If he does not have faith in the DH&CC, why should the taxpayers?

DickD

Even if the developer signs, if they file bankruptcy it will be voided, they need to get security to back it up.

KellyAlzan

Yep. A signature means squat, look at trump and all his bankruptcies.

Peter needs to put up liquid collateral.

Really, why is the county city and state even involved with the money. Isn't this what financial lending institutions are for?? I'm sure PNC would love to finance this.....

BlueDawn666

No the Guaranty has this included in it....seeking the protection of the federal bankruptcy laws; he can't do that...

DickD

What will stop him? Is he putting up collateral of other businesses they own?

BlueDawn666

find my blog TrueBluePolitics..you will be able to read the complete Guaranty..look for the big green picture that says Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is and make sure you read the comments as well..thanks

pretzel

How about this, it's Frederick MD. and we don't need another hotel at all, especially within the city limits. How often do the nice hotels already in existence reach their capacity? All this talk about Frederick being a nice little small, peaceful community has made it an overcrowded annoyance.

armillary

Frederick is the second largest city in MD. But it's the most vibrant city, a destination for culture, industry and government. Now the state is willing to help get a conference center downtown as a way to increase economic opportunity. It makes sense to me.

gary4books

Some have been here so long they can not se Frederick. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Burgessdr

Pretzel your argument is weird. There is no hotel downtown, none. The hotels reach their capacity during the tourism season July and October. Have you ever tried to get a room in one of the nice hotels then? Apparently not.

Currently, there are about 22 hotels and motels in or just outside the City of Frederick totaling about 2,415 rooms. But there has not always been that many rooms. In just the last 4 years, Woodspring Suites, Hilton Homewood Suites, and Marriott TownePlace just popped up out of the ground totaling 359 new rooms. Yup, that's right, three brand new hotels with almost twice as many rooms as the proposed Marriott.

Going back a few more years to 2007-2009, the Hilton Garden Inn and the Motel 6 Fort Detrick popped out of the ground totaling 301 rooms.

And in the five years preceding that - yup “Pop Goes the Hotel” - the Hampton Inn Fort Detrick, Marriott Residence Inn, and the Comfort Inn totaling 267 rooms.

In 1995, twenty years ago, there were just 8 hotel/motels in the vicinity of the City of Frederick totaling about 940 rooms. Since then 14 new hotels have popped up out of the ground - or about one every 16 months - adding another 1,475 rooms. Doing the math, in 20 years, the room supply in the vicinity of the City of Frederick went from 940 rooms to 2,415 - or an annualized growth rate of 4.8%.

In December 2014, the Maryland Office of Tourism Development released a report "The Economic Impact of Tourism in Maryland." The study showed that the number of visitors to Frederick County increased from 1.44 million in 2009 to 1.72 million in 2013 - or an annualized growth rate of 4.6% - and essentially the same as the historical average of 4.8% growth in hotel rooms. Imagine that, "Supply in Response to Demand."

The bottom line is that at the historical rate of growth of hotels in Frederick, the proposed 207 room Marriott Hotel will only provide enough additional capacity for about two years. Actually, since there is NO hotel downtown, and NO 4-star hotel in the county, there is currently ZERO capacity - NO ROOMS IN THE INN.

DickD

Now that you have explained the logic of a hotel downtown, please explain why it cannot be competitive without tax payer support and the convention center that is bound to be a loser. We have no idea on what the leases will be an no explanation is given, so they can be whatever you want them to be.

bosco

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Thewheelone

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Burgessdr

Lease is explicitly giben in MOU. ..... read

jwhamann

It'd probably be quicker to build a few 'pop-ups' outside of town rather than wait a couple of years to build one downtown.

gary4books

Real estate is about location, location AND location. Downtown visitors will want a hotel they can walk to.

glenkrc

Burgessdr - You're trying to impress us with cute phrases - and data that appears to be suspect.

"Going back a few more years to 2007-2009, the Hilton Garden Inn and the Motel 6 Fort Detrick popped out of the ground totaling 301 rooms." - The Motel 6 on Baughmans Lane was just a renovation of the prior-existing Holiday Inn.

"And in the five years preceding that - yup 'Pop Goes the Hotel' - the Hampton Inn Fort Detrick, Marriott Residence Inn, and the Comfort Inn totaling 267 rooms." - Both of Frederick's current "Comfort Inn"s existed in 1992 - one of which was known simply as the Red Horse. My first night in Frederick was spent in the other.

"In 1995, twenty years ago, there were just 8 hotel/motels in the vicinity of the City of Frederick..." I'd appreciate your listing them. I'm pretty sure I can add to your list.

Burgessdr

glenkrc. Here is a list of all the hotel/motels in Frederick. Dates constructed, dates renovated, number of rooms. Oh great wise one, please provide your list. Wow us with your great knowledge.

2015 Woodspring Suites 124
2015 Hilton Homewood Suites 117
2012 Marriott TownePlace 120
2007 Hilton Garden Inn 143
2005, 2011 Hampton Inn Fort Detrick 104
2002, 2009 Marriott Residence Inn 90
2002 Comfort Inn 73
2000 Sleep Inn 84
1999, 2012 Mainstay Suites 72
1999, 2010 Marriott Courtyard 90
1999, 2005 Extended Stay America 101
1998, 2014 Econo Lodge 96
1996, 2009 Marriott Fairfield Inn 105
1989, 2006 Best Western 99
1987, 2013 Country Inn 99
1987, 2004 Hampton Inn Frederick 161
1981, 2012 Days Inn 121
1980, 2006 Holiday Inn 155
1974, 2014 Super 8 118
1969, 2009 Motel 6 Motor Inn 158
1968, 2004 Comfort Inn Red Horse 69

glenkrc

The list is pretty good. It correctly shows where you were wrong about the Motel 6 property.

I would question the 1998 date for the current Econo Lodge property. There have been 2 properties in the vicinity of I-70/Market Street - one north of I-70, one south of I-70 - since at least the early 90s. Knights Inn comes to mind for the southern property. Perhaps your list doesn't include properties that were razed.

Finally, in 1995 I would have considered Beckley's, the Buckeye, the Dan-Dee, and Masser's as motels. I believe the first 2 still exist as motels.

Fredmd21704

Frederick is in desperate need of a downtown hotel.

jwhamann

'Desperate' is a little over-doing it....

gary4books

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armillary


"Two thousand fourteen I supported,"
"an identical bill," Kirby snorted
"since Blaine was defeated,"
"my argument's heated,"
"my reasoning's now more contorted."

phydeaux994

Shreve and Delauter don't have a clue what they voted for as County Commissioners. They just voted the way Blaine told them to. That's why neither one of them know how to write a bill, they never did it before. What an embarrassment these two are to our County.

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