Protest Tuesday

Angela Spencer, right, leads a prayer with those gathered at the start of a racial justice protest on the Square Corner Tuesday night.

With protests in Frederick against racism and police brutality in their second week, both protestors and organizers are thinking about what the next phase of the movement will look like.

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In the coming weeks and months, the diverse movement sparked by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis may increasingly move more online and into conference rooms and community centers rather than on Frederick’s Square Corner and other spots on the city, leaders and protestors said at an event Tuesday night.

In Frederick, groups will probably move away from daily protests, but set up regular events to keep the energy that has been captured across the country said Tyrell Price, who helped organize Tuesday’s event on the Square Corner.

Protest Tuesday

A group of protesters were part of a racial justice protest on the Square Corner.

Several dozen protestors waved signs and chanted the names of Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and others killed by police.

Vehicles honked and drivers shouted their approval out of their windows, to the cheers of the crowds on the sidewalk.

If they do protests every day, people will eventually stop seeing them, Price said. But if they set up a few events a month, it can help keep the energy alive.

And there’s more to do than just protest, said Blair Hudnall, as she helped collect email addresses from people who had come out. She mentioned voting, petitions, and donating to funds to provide bail for people who are arrested while protesting as some other activities people could take part in.

Sabrina Smith of Brunswick, who attended Tuesday’s protest, said people can keep their energy up by continuing to watch what is going on in the world around them.

A one-day push won’t be enough, and a sustained effort is needed, she said.

A teacher in Virginia, Smith noted that she teaches her students that the more diverse any system is, the healthier it tends to be.

Protest Tuesday

Two protesters step into Market Street and signal for motorist to honk their horn during a racial justice protest on the square corner Tuesday night. The group grew and occupied all four corners of the intersection until shortly before 7 p. m. when they entered the street and began to march north on North Market Street. City Police followed the marchers and closed downtown roadways when needed.

The same is true for society, she said.

Aje Hill, a mentor with “I Believe in Me,” a program for boys in Frederick, said movement organizers want to sit down with County Executive Jan Gardner, Sheriff Chuck Jenkins, leaders from the Frederick Police Department, and others, to find better approaches to the problems that have become more visible in recent weeks.

They’re also organizing email lists, websites, and other ways to keep the momentum of the protests alive.

“The protests may stop, but the work continues,” Hill said.

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(80) comments

bosco

i see they sent up the bat signal. Check the dude in the cowboy hat. [batman]

KR999

Good eye bosco, and boy he sure does look ridiculous.

Psizzle

What happened to Mr Floyd was terrible. But if people of all races would comply with police orders nobody gets killed. These people will have their day in court and can also file complaints. Or like Biden says “shoot them in the leg” Yea like that can happen in stressful situations. Dudes an idiot.

KR999

Biden may be an idiot, but he's the only idiot the Dimwit Party has to offer up for the election. TRUMP 2020!!!

hayduke2

Mature post 🤪🤪

KR999

Thank you hay, you should try it yourself sometime.

Nancy Day

Dealing with cd reed is like trying to talk with a child. His replies are juvenile and immature. Imagine having to work with that clown?

bosco

As bumbling as Trump is, it's still going to be Biden's election to lose unless they can keep him in his basement and do fake voice-overs of his interviews. Sort of like a Max Headroom. [lol][ninja]

DeplorableLocalVeteran

A republican Federal court rules five West Virginia cops who fatally shot mentally ill black man 22 times as he lay on the ground cannot be protected by immunity in 'extraordinary' ruling seven years after his death

DickD

What bothers me about the article and the comments here is no one is addressing the issue of crime. Crime is caused by a variety of reasons (hate, low income, lack of opportunity, failure to communicate and possibly a few more). Hate can be personal or a matter of differences.  Personal hatred is not systemic, race as a cause is.  And the reason(s) is color of skin and past racial differences. 

We can't do anything about the color of skin, it is what it is.  Past differences are: slavery, low income, crime, failure to maintain property, etc.   Slavery is past, we can't change what happened in the past.  We can make sure that in the future education is improved and opportunity for those with the education exists regardless of skin. 

With the opportunity and better wages it follows that anyone normally maintains their property better and their is no reason to commit crime caused by low income.  

We also need to communicate with each other and make sure that all are given credit for their help.  We cannot fail to listen to the grievances, they must be heard.

As far as the police are concerned. they are not all guilty.  We need to weed out the bad ones and make sure everyone is treated fairly.  To some extent being a police officer gives the police officer a superior attitude, that needs to be changed,   Police are there to stop crime, not to take the law into their hands.

We need better education, equal opportunity. ability to communicate with all, a better understanding of each other and some legislation on the police and minimum wages.  Wages cannot and should not be so low that someone cannot make enough to live on decently.

We also need to get out and vote this fall to make sure that it happens!

bosco

Great commentary DickD, but it's based on too much logic. [ninja]

jwhamann

Knowing Americans have shortened attention spans thanks to twitter and such, all this will be largely forgotten about in year or so. Some years ago some kid massacred about a dozen black members in a church somewhere that started all the Confederate statues being pulled down, but that all I remember. All those school massacres are barely in people's memory. 9/11 doesn't mean a thing to kids anymore. Heck, the Holocaust only has a few survivors left...and they were little kids then. A good reason these protests keep going is because college students are bored since the virus closed their schools down.

Alexandra22

Instead, we might consider this as an opportunity for young people to step into leadership roles for the greater good of our town, nation, and humanity rather than a meaningless and irrelevant response to boredom as a result of school closings.

mkirish44

I am looking for some clarity here. The protests were about systemic racism by the police, systemic brutality by the police against minorities and overall systemic racism in the United States. Do I have the issues correct so far? So by definition everything the police do and the citizens of this country do is racist. Black's Law Dictionary defines systemic as "a system wide effect of a group or as a whole instead of individual member parts. So basically every cop and every one in this country is racist? Please explain how this is possible? Especially with the rhetoric that its not all cops or all people....the term systemic is a term using a broad brush to paint everyone with the same title. I believe there is racism in society and in law enforcement..but I think the term systemic is so far off of the mark. I can hardly wait for the responses to this.

Alexandra22

I have friends and former colleagues in law enforcement I love and respect. Systemic refers to a system wide effect, as it relates in this discussion, of police departments and courts, but includes other, if not the majority of, our institutions in our country, that impact a group. Not all individuals within these groups and even perhaps the vast majority of our officers, judges, doctors, teachers, public officials, businesses, and community leaders are personally condoning or promoting racism, but the flawed system by and large has continued to act as an elusive restraint and/or blindfold to the injustices we might otherwise take action to right.

shiftless88

You mis-understand "systemic". It means the system is racist not that everyone in it is racist. It means that whites don't really even notice the racism because it seems "normal"

Piedmontgardener

Thought I'd share a piece of the Chief Judge of Maryland's outstanding statement on behalf of the Maryland Judiciary on equal justice under the law.

..."In Maryland, we have begun to address some of the systemic inequities that affect the poor and people of color more often and with greater detriment. We have begun pretrial reform, but still need pretrial services state-wide to eliminate the pretrial detention of those who do not pose a risk, but cannot afford even a low monetary bail. We have instituted mediation in landlord-tenant cases, but we need to address the manner in which the hundreds of thousands of landlord-tenant matters are filed and administered each year.

We are working to improve the justice responses to children involved with the courts. But we do still need to better address the problems of our young, our children, who have grown up in violence and poverty, far too many of whom are of color. We must recognize that their suffering is our suffering and their desperation, ours. As long as they are not afforded the stability and opportunity that all children deserve and require, we risk our collective stability as a state and as a nation.

We have been fortunate in Maryland to have had a longstanding commitment to a Judiciary that looks like the people it serves—and an equal commitment to access to justice. We must, however, recognize the economic and racial disparities that persist in our justice system. We cannot eliminate them until we make certain that all voices are heard and respected and that the perspectives and experience of all realign our practices to make good the promise of equal justice under law.

To answer President Lincoln, we will do better in Maryland because we must, until we achieve what a true democracy requires: equality for all people. Our duty and fealty to the constitutions of our state and country command that we strive toward equality. Let us, in reaffirming our commitment to equal justice under law for all, make it known that, in Maryland, the lives of people of color do matter."

Mary Ellen Barbera

Chief Judge

June 10, 2020

DisisPedro4prez

Interesting . . .

"The findings – published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, or PNAS – are based on an independent database Cesario and his team created that catalogued each police shooting from 2015. The team – led also by co-author David Johnson from University of Maryland – contacted every police department that had a fatal police shooting to get the race, sex and years of experience for every officer involved in each incident. The team also leveraged data from police shooting databases by The Washington Post and The Guardian.

“We found that the race of the officer doesn’t matter when it comes to predicting whether black or white citizens are shot," Cesario said. "If anything, black citizens are more likely to have been shot by black officers, but this is because black officers are drawn from the same population that they police. So, the more black citizens there are in a community, the more black police officers there are.”

The data show that it’s not racial bias on behalf of white officers relative to black officers when it comes to fatal shootings, and that’s good news. The bad news, Cesario said, is that internal policy changes, such as diversifying police forces, may not reduce shootings of minority citizens.

Beyond officer race, the team drew other conclusions about details related to racial disparities in fatal officer shootings."

awteam2000

That study went on to say their finding weren’t conclusive, just the opposite:

“The uncertainty around these estimates highlights the need for more data before drawing conclusions about disparities in specific types of shootings.”

Concluding, “ continued work on this issue will require more information about the officers, civilians, and circumstances surrounding these events. We encourage federal agencies to enforce policies that require recording information about the civilians and officers in FOIS to better understand the relationship between civilian race and police use of force.”

awteam2000

I can show you 10 other studies, not to mention a plethora of first hand experiences with different findings, not only in policing but in daily life experiences. The protest goes far beyond one murder or several by bad policing (a few bad cops) but a systemic cultural issue. That’s why millions are engaging in protest around the world.

shiftless88

as noted by aw below, there is not even systematic, required reporting for much of these data so they are, as the authors note, not conclusive. One cannot draw conclusions off of non-systematic data.

public-tertiary

Look at that photo of people praying on the public square. That sure puts the lie to the claim by persecutionists that religion isn’t tolerated in public.

bosco

"Aje Hill, a mentor with “I Believe in Me,” a program for boys in Frederick, said movement organizers want to sit down with County Executive Jan Gardner, Sheriff Chuck Jenkins, leaders from the Frederick Police Department, and others, to find better approaches to the problems that have become more visible in recent weeks."..........how did that meeting with Sheriff Jenkins go? Didn't they get their answers then? [ninja]

My grandmother taught me that you never learn much when you are talking, it's only be listening. Shouting probably drops that learning curve even further.

awteam2000

Obviously grandma wasn’t one of her strong suits.😉

sevenstones1000

My grandma taught me that kneeling on someone’s neck for 8 minutes, while screaming at them to get up, is not only deranged behavior, it will kill that person.

bosco

Really? What were you doing that caused that discussion? [beam]

Dwasserba

If their first goal was to get publicity to garner support, it worked. Still too emotional for a dialogue. I would sooner read Aje Hill's commentary on this subject than Cal Thomas'.

bosco

And that's why we have freedom of the press, until the cancel culture gets involved like they did at the New York Times when they fired some staff over an op ed by Senator Tom Cotton, but they were OK with publishing an op ed by a Taliban deputy Sirajuddin Haqqani. The millenial woke crybabies are at work. [ninja]

Bigbaby17

U think cause u google some history that u got this figured all out....... ignorance is killing our city and it’s people like u mr American history X that gives our town a bad name.....#staywoke

KR999

Let me guess, Frederick High?

Nancy Day

Let me guess, thurmont outhouse?

KR999

Out from your rock this morning, are you sammy?

Nancy Day

So original. Just like a brown mattress stain.

KR999

Being an expert on stains, you would know, sammy. Just a reminder, hon, you need to play nicely in the sandbox or you'll get banned again. I'm keeping a record of all your comments, sweetie, like it or not.

Nancy Day

I'm sure you are, cd. Go whine to the mods. But they were mean to my wife. ahahahahaha.

Dwasserba

what bad name

girlpolitic

Mr Hill, Since Mayor OConner has condoned unregulated demonstrations I would suggest that you check the Downtown Frederick Partnership website and have demonstrations during Alive@5, First Saturday, and Sunday Concert Series when they restart after COVID19. ALSO, follow the Weinberg schedule lining Patruck & Court Sts on event days would be very effective. GOOD LUCK.

steelersfan2005

so they should wait until next year, because they have all been cancelled for this year.

girlpolitic

Better than walking empty streets where the only observers are uniforms. Although once downtown religious services start marching on Church and 2nd streets between Maxwell and Bentz could be effective.

hayduke2

Hey jersey girl - why the new name?

KR999

Any particular reason why you keep bringing up that she has a new name, hay? Some big deal to you, is it?

hayduke2

Nope - same old nonsense just like you used to post under your previous handle

KR999

If it's no big deal to you, why do you keep bringing it up then?

Lev928

To all of you BLM false ideologists ... ask former President Obama how he attained success. For that matter, even ask the blatantly corrupt Don Lemon from CNN. It's called hard work. Even though I disagree with them both, they worked hard and EARNED their positions. MLK would even set you straight if he was still here.

sevenstones1000

If hard work led to success, the men who empty your garbage would be millionaires.

bosco

And all of the experts on politics are cutting hair and driving taxis. [beam]

MFGA

Now that is a group of men worth following...guess they were too busy cleaning up the city to be causing a mess within the city...I have found them to be one of the hardest working and most respectful group of men that work for The City of Frederick. They weren't paid to stay home for the past three months and they weren't out complaining about those of you who were...I bet their loads were larger with everyone at home.... I'd like to see everyone get out of bed early with signs thanking them next collection day...now that would be a photo op worth covering FNP.

hayduke2

Lev - please provide the source for the information regarding Don Lemmon's corruptness.

Lev928

hayduke2 ... his own TV appearances and personally biased commentary..

Lev928

Here's a thought: how about we start by doing away with the disparaging terminology of "minority". This not only applies to blacks, but also hispanic/latinos, asians ... the list goes on. It's not police terminology to begin with! How about we just change the term to "American" or "citizen". The police will still have to use some terminology to differentiate between suspect physical descriptions, but that's irrelevant.

Lev928

I can tell you what it looks like and how it will end up ... a defining moment of a complete failure of corrupt ideology and a mindset to support the criminal element in society. Race is irrelevant.

Black soldiers served during The War of 1812. Later, during the American Civil War, the 55th Regiment of the Massachusetts Voluntary Infantry -- made up of black males -- joined the 54th Regiment. They fought and died together for the Union. In fact, during that time, black soldiers were promoted to ranks to take charge. During World War II, the Tuskegee Airmen were the first black military aviators in the U.S. Army Air Corps. They flew about 15,000 missions during that time and gained notoriety for their success. Again, black men were promoted to ranks of leadership in the U.S. military

It's blatantly obvious that BLM and so-called local "leaders" of protests against racism and police brutality have no idea of American history or what their predecessors have truly accomplished .. unlike themselves. The current corrupt ideology and mindset should be abolished, and TRUE history and FACTS remembered and respected. The problem is not police brutality ... the problem is the current ideology and mindset that personal accountability and responsibility don't matter regardless of race. It's not about race ... it's about taking advantage of isolated incidents, politics and the same corrupt ideology of using it for favorable gain. Those black heroes of the War of 1812, the American Civil War and of World War II would be ASHAMED if they could see what is going on today. It's sad that racist organizations such as BLM and their kind deny such American history. In fact, they disgrace such heroic and strong American black people such as Frederick Douglass, Eugene Bullard, William Monroe Trotter and, of course, Martin Luther King, Jr.

Is it possible that these two black men from Frederick County/Frederick City are trying to make a name for themselves by taking advantage of the current climate over an isolated incident? Certainly. 15 minutes of fame, right? IT could also be that they have no idea about the TRUE history of heroic black men in American society, because they definitely don't live up to them. By the way, I'm not leaving out heroic black females from history (I know who they are); this is about two local black males trying to create a false narrative for personal gain. And it will never work.

Alexandra22

Your sentiment is a case in point of the product of systemic racism in our county. It’s time to listen, not pick apart a movement with clear a just intentions.

Lev928

Alexandra22 ... you have no idea about reality, the U.S. Constitution nor law. You have NO what you're talking about.

steelersfan2005

Actually, it IS a time to listen, and not pick apart a movement like Alexandra stated. Maybe it is YOU that has no idea about reality, the US Constitution NOR the law or even what you are talking about.

Alexandra22

Overwhelming oppression of black and brown people in our country is the reality of 2020. Waking up to the realization that the vast majority of us white, antiracsist folks have been living under our white privileged bubbles, isn’t some sort of defeat, or sentiment not based in historical fact, neither is it reason for shame, it has actually personally given me a bigger sense of pride in myself, the color of my skin, and newfound sense of belonging. Consider spending some time asking someone you feel comfortable talking with about how they came to recognize their own white privilege; how they can stand behind their sentiment affirming black lives matter. It is liberating, and something to be celebrated; not shameful and something to otherwise avoid.

Lev928

There is no such thing as "systemic racism". That is a term created for political views and racial divide. Just like the term "profiling". Either you're a fake journalist or you follow fake journalism from the fake news media. What did your parents teach you? What has real American history taught you in school?

steelersfan2005

So there is no such thing as profiling? Seems, you didn't learn American history at all in school, did you fail?

shiftless88

Great; we will listen to the white guy inform us all about black history and how systemic racism does not exist. Lev; have you taken that online test for implicit bias? You should. Post your score.

phydeaux994

No such thing as “systemic racism”. No such thing as “White Privilege”. No such thing as “slavery”. No such thing as Jim Crowe Laws. No such thing as segregated schools. No such thing as “block busting”. No such thing as job discrimination. No such thing as the KKK. No such thing as driving, jogging, walking, “while Black”. What has any Black person done to you Lev, to cause you to hate them so??

Lev928

What does race have to do with FACTS? There is no such thing as racial profiling nor systemic racism. The term "racial profiling" was coined by the media.

bosco

Actually, Lev, police do profile and it's not all bad. It allows them to observe human behavior and pick out the probables for closer observation. How many times have you seen "Traffic Stop Leads To Drug Arrest" in the FNP? That was because the police were observing someone's behavior and they demanded closer scrutiny. They don't pick out grandma in her Cadillac for a stop, but the car with an expired tag, an out-of-state tag, a burnt out taillight, driving too fast or too slow on I70, and running on the space-saver spare. Then the stop leads to further investigation - and that's when drugs may be found.

Sign up for a citizen ride along and you'll see what real police work invloves. [ninja]

Lev928

*idea

KR999

Lev, it's a known fact that black soldiers voluntarily fought and died for the Confederacy, primarily to defend their property which included their own black slaves. In Louisiana particularly. WLM.

awteam2000

Take their statues down. Oh there aren’t any. 🤷‍♂️

KR999

How do you know, aw? Maybe there are.

phydeaux994

Where did you learn that CD? I’d like to see that for myself. Oh, you don’t remember? But you said it was a known FACT. It should be available in many history books. Quit making stuff up!!!

KR999

fido, you have a computer, do your own research. Or, are you just too lazy too and just content to post your same old RRR & BTT CRAP?

hayduke2

From several sources - "Some black Southerners aided the Confederacy. Most of these were forced to accompany their masters or were forced to toil behind the lines. Black men were not legally allowed to serve as combat soldiers in the Confederate Army--they were cooks, teamsters, and manual laborers. There were no black Confederate combat units in service during the war and no documentation whatsoever exists for any black man being paid or pensioned as a Confederate soldier, although some did receive pensions for their work as laborers. "

KR999

Hay, WAKE UP!!! There were no negro combat "units" in the Confederate army and I never said there were. And no Southern blacks would have been paid during the War or received a pension after the it. Blacks were not considered worthy of pay by the army (similar to black combat units in the Northern army who got less pay than their white counterparts,) and no Confederate veterans got a pension after the War because the government they fought for was extinct in April of '65. Get your head out of your arse and do some research for a change;

https://www.theroot.com/yes-there-were-black-confederates-here-s-why-1790858546

hayduke2

Sorry CD - don’t like being called out for the nonsense you post huh? Then don’t post garbage

KR999

Nice try hay. Just hate it when you're proven wrong, don't you? Not that it's hard to do, though.

Lev928

Correct KR999.

bnick467

No, Lev, the problem is people like you who live in your own little world, refuse to accept facts when they're right in front of you, who only listen to Fake Fox News and think that blacks are somehow 'inferior' to you and deserve the brutality. When it was white people who were protesting something so minor as having to wear a mask and not being able to get their hair cut, you had no problem with the protests. Accept it: The United States doesn't revolve around white males anymore. We've fought that war twice already, and your side has lost twice. Get over it. This is the United States now, and if you don't like it, GTFO!

KR999

Ok bnick, how much damage and looting was done by the white people protesting not being able to get a haircut?

Lev928

bnick467 ... My world IS the real world. Been living and working in it for decades. Obviously, someone like YOU has not experienced the real world. I don't watch the news much. As a matter of fact, we're both on the FNP website ... they're not much a world news leader. The United States revolves around the U.S. Constitution and law, both of which I am greatly educated in and experienced with ... as for the GTFO statement, I'm a LEGAL U.S. citizen. I'm fairly certain that does not apply to me. Maybe take your own advice.

Piedmontgardener

Unfortunately, this tin foil hat history lesson that boils down to your community takes no personal responsibility and my community is superior is exactly what's wrong with this discussion. When you come to the table to talk and to seek a better America for everyone, this isn't a discussion where both sides learn anything. It's a lecture and an ugly one, direct from the sewers of Trump land.

awteam2000

Lev 928, you forgot to mention Django Unchained.

sfhaydel

He also forgot to mention that his people riot and loot over winning a sporting event!

KR999

OK, sfhaydel, name an example of his people rioting and looting over winning a sporting event. And be sure you discern between "rioting and looting," and having a big street party with minimal damage to property.

Lev928

I don't pay attention to sports, so ... no free (stolen) looted baseball hats, jerseys or sneakers for me!

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