Roxana Orellana Santos hasn’t given up.

Eleven years ago, Santos was quietly living in Frederick, working as a dishwasher and trying to give her kids a better life than she had in El Salvador.

When Frederick County sheriff’s deputies arrested her, she became entangled in a national debate over the role of local police agencies in enforcing federal civil immigration law.

Although Santos has won a civil rights lawsuit over the arrest, she is still facing deportation. Judges have temporarily barred her removal, but only until her case against the county is resolved.

Santos shared her story at a press conference Tuesday, two weeks after U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement released her after a month in immigration detention. Like a repeat of her 2008 arrest, Santos was separated from her children and friends for a month.

“I have a lot of pain in my heart for everything that I have gone through,” Santos said.

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Santos came to the United States in 2005, “fleeing lifelong physical, psychological, and emotional abuse” by her father, according to court records.

“I have to remind myself why I’m here,” Santos said Tuesday. “I migrated here because I was seeking support. ... The reason I left El Salvador is that my father put me at gunpoint and told me I had to flee.”

Immigration enforcement authorities in San Antonio arrested her that September and released her on her own recognizance. Instructions to report to ICE each month weren’t properly explained to her, her attorneys say, because she didn’t speak or read English well.

By 2008, Santos had relocated to Frederick and was working as a dishwasher at Common Market. That October, as she ate bread with beans and avocado on her lunch break behind the store, two Frederick County sheriff’s deputies approached her.

“I was not scared,” Santos said. “I had done nothing wrong.”

Santos had a hard time understanding the deputies, but she showed them an identification card from El Salvador.

Santos was unaware the immigration court in San Antonio had ordered her deported in absentia at a 2006 hearing. When sheriff’s deputies checked for warrants, they found the outstanding immigration order and arrested her.

ICE detained Santos for more than a month. She was separated from her children, including a son who was a year old at the time.

“The first thing on my mind was my son,” she said. “When I was in the police car, all I could think of was him.”

For the past 10 years, Santos has been reporting to the federal immigration agency in Baltimore regularly. At the same time, with the help of local immigration advocates and attorneys, she sued Frederick County and the sheriff’s office.

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Six months before Santos’ arrest, the sheriff’s office had started its participation in the federal 287(g) program. The agreement between the sheriff’s office and ICE allows trained deputies to check the immigration status of people booked into the county jail and begin deportation proceedings if appropriate.

Santos sued Frederick County, arguing that the deputies who arrested her were not trained under the agreement and lacked probable cause to question her.

The arrest “was the beginning of her civil rights case,” said Ana Martinez, lead organizer with CASA of Maryland, an advocacy and legal-aid organization that has worked on Santos’ case. “You can’t simply arrest someone for being Latina. She had done nothing wrong. All she was doing was having lunch.”

After a decade in court, a series of federal courts have ruled in Santos’ favor. The 4th Circuit Court of Appeals found in 2013 that the deputies had lacked probable cause to search or seize Santos, a violation of her constitutional rights. In September, almost 10 years after the illegal arrest, U.S. District Judge Catherine C. Blake ruled that Frederick County Sheriff Chuck Jenkins was liable as policymaker for the sheriff’s office.

Santos’ original lawsuit sought $1 million in damages from the county. But more important than money, she said, the suit also sought to change sheriff’s office policy.

“She’s clearly entitled to some kind of monetary damages, but the case was never about the money,” said Jose Perez, an attorney with Latino Justice who has been representing Santos. “We want to change their policy because we want to ensure that this doesn’t happen again.”

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The last 10 years have also seen a rise in the type of tough-on-immigration policies that Jenkins has long espoused. President Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign placed focus on illegal immigration and deportation. Since Trump’s election, Jenkins has been a guest at the White House multiple times to participate in immigration enforcement and gang violence discussions.

Jenkins touted the success of his office’s partnership with ICE during his 2018 re-election campaign. Since 2008, the partnership has placed “1,608 criminal aliens into deportation after committing crimes in Frederick County,” including 106 gang members, Jenkins wrote in a letter to The News-Post.

According to Sergio España, director of engagement and mobilization at the ACLU of Maryland, many of the people deported committed traffic offenses and low-level crimes. España’s organization has joined with other civil liberties groups to urge Frederick County to end its participation in 287(g).

“What we’re seeing with these partnerships with ICE, it’s not about immigration, it’s about racial scapegoating,” España said at Tuesday’s press conference. “The scale of what is happening in our state is hard to fathom. There are thousands of Marylanders that have Roxana’s story.”

The sheriff’s office maintains it has never used racial profiling to identify immigrants who are in the U.S. without legal permission.

One hundred percent “of all offenders/defendants brought to the Detention Center are screened, there is absolutely no profiling or selective screening based on race, ethnicity, or country of origin,” according to the sheriff’s office’s 2018 287(g) steering committee presentation.

Proposed legislation in the Maryland General Assembly this year would codify the 4th Circuit’s ruling in Santos’ case and further limit the role of local jails in immigration enforcement. Senate Bill 817 would prohibit county detention centers from holding people on civil immigration detainers if they do not have warrants for criminal offenses.

The Senate Judicial Proceedings Committee took up the bill during a Feb. 21 hearing. Sens. William Smith, Michael Hough and Bobby Zirkin used “the Santos decision” as shorthand for checking immigration status without probable cause.

“’You can’t stop somebody on the street and say, ‘Show me your papers,’” Zirkin said. “That’s been determined to be completely illegal.”

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On Jan. 8, CASA organizers organized a last-minute rally outside the federal office building in downtown Baltimore. After 10 years of reporting for periodic check-ins, Santos was abruptly detained by ICE a week before she was due to participate in settlement talks in the lawsuit against Frederick County.

Santos’ family, supporters and attorneys called on the agency to release her. Several of them blocked an ICE van from leaving the building and received police citations. But the agency took Santos to a detention center in Worcester County, where they held her for a month.

The four-week detention was hard on Santos. ICE didn’t provide her the medication she is prescribed for chronic pain, she said. She found herself crying in her dreams and thinking about death.

Most of all, though, she worried who was making her children’s after-school snacks. On the phone with her children, she struggled to explain where she was.

“My daughter would ask me, why am I in jail?” Santos said. “I wasn’t able to respond. I told her that one day I’ll be able to explain the whole situation.”

Santos’ story is emblematic of what immigrant families across the state and country experience when a loved one is detained, Martinez said.

“The reality is, these are the impacts that are happening throughout our community, throughout the nation,” Martinez said. “We hear about these cases all the time. People call and say my husband went to the grocery store and didn’t come back. Then we find out they were detained because of a police violation and transferred to immigration [authorities].”

For all she’s been through, Santos said she’s motivated to make sure what happened to her doesn’t happen to others.

“I ask ICE to focus on the people who cause harm,” she said. “Not the people who are working hard, trying to provide for their families.”

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(140) comments

mrnatural1

News Flash: New York Times agrees with CD!!:

"Hospitals Feeling Strain From Illegal Immigrants"

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/25/us/hospitals-feeling-strain-from-illegal-immigrants.html

The article is dated (2002) and still the costs are huge! They are certainly much greater now.

Remember -- that article was published by the supposedly "liberal" NYT. The nation's "Newspaper of Record".

Some quotes:

"...Mr. Jiménez, 30, a former gardener, has emerged from a coma, had two birthdays and accumulated medical bills of almost $1 million."

"...hospitals are collectively writing off as much as $2 billion a year in unpaid medical bills to treat the illegal immigrants, who, unlike American citizens and permanent residents, are ineligible for Medicaid."

"''We eventually found some relatives and a physician in Jamaica who was willing to accept him, and one of our nurses flew with him to Jamaica. By the time all that happened, it had cost us probably over half a million dollars.''

"Another Arizona hospital, Southeast Arizona Medical Center in Douglas, filed for bankruptcy and nearly closed in 1998 because of the rising costs of treating illegal immigrants. The problem has become so bad in Arizona that a state program that provided free dialysis and chemotherapy for legal and illegal immigrants will run out of money in a couple of months."

"Senator Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona, introduced a bill in January 2001, co-sponsored with Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, that would provide $200 million a year for four years to reimburse health care providers in border regions."

~~~

The costs are easily double those amounts now.

That said, the cost associated with illegal immigration, while enormous, is less important than:

1) Overpopulation
2) Security
3) Unemployment -- and related societal problems including domestic violence and suicide.

We need secure borders. We should follow the recommendations of the professionals -- not Trump or Pelosi.

gary4books

Early on, someone in television news said "We do not want Mexicans. They do not have American values." And I thought "Since they live in America (North America) what other values could they have?" But most in the USA think they are the only Americans. we have a history of saying that.

KellyAlzan

(133) comments. All because someone says to focus on serious criminals. I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE MILLION DOLLAR (+) SETTLEMENT OF THE LAWSUIT IS ANNOUNCED!

phydeaux994

I came across this paragraph in an article about the history of the Southern Border and I think it will always be true.

“As a historian, there seems to be a widespread assumption that we used to be in control of the border, and that at some point we lost that. And if we hire more people or use certain technology like drones or sensors or build a fence, that we're going to get that back. That's just not the case," he says. "I don't know a single point in history when the government actually determined who and what got to cross and was successful in implementing that vision.”

pappyjoe

gary you must be from the city. Country people uses a cat not matches to rid the mice. Also American - a native or citizen of the United States! Native - associated with the place or circumstances of a person`s birth.

gary4books

It was a saying country people said to illustrate foolish behavior. That is all. And I hoed enough cotton to think I was on a farm. And milked the cow and bailed the hay when it took people on the bailer to tie the wires together by hand.

KellyAlzan

I, Kelly Q Alzan, and truly grateful that Trumpkins won the election. As, now, everytime, he, walks, into, patrol, he, is reminded that he personally improved this woman’s life. The very people that he has so proudly been batteling, he ended up enriching.

gary4books

Some will burn down the barn to get at the mice.

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User1

Yep, she went thru TWO other countries before she illegally entered the USA. Why didn’t she stop there, or seek asylum there?

pappyjoe

bosco very, very good point. History seems to repeat itself such as the Mexican/American war. God look over us because if the demo`s makes the big seat they will support them not Americans.

gary4books

I do believe that all who live in North America are "Americans." Not popular to say so in the USA, but true enough to make me think.

CDReid

For that matter then, why just North America? What about the people who live in Central America and South America? Are they not Americas and would they not all be Americans, too? I'm not sure the Canadians would agree with your opinion though.

DickD

The U.S. did invade Canada once. And we certainly have had wars with Mexico, more than one if you count the Texas/Mexican war. Of course that was before Texas was annexed, so maybe it does not count.

gary4books

No good reason to exclude the entire hemisphere, except to focus on our area of America. I have read that some Canadians said "I am NOT American, I am Canadian." So we are not the only nation to get it wrong.

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CDReid

If the Democrats makes the White House they, the Democrats, will support the illegal aliens and not American citizens. It really ain't all that hard, Dick.

donbey

ICE should focus on everyone who is illegally here. People who do not respect the country enough to enter legally get no say in who the government targets.

pappyjoe

DDICK! why do you continue to challenge CD? its like a skunk in the bag man. Don`t reach in the bag[beam]

phydeaux994

CD is a Paper Tiger pappyjoe. Cops out of every challenge. Whines when people “pick” on him. Loses his temper when he’s losing, which is always. Tells you “it’s none of your business” when he gets really mad. Go ahead and reach in the bag. Feel around pappyjoe, that’s no skunk, it’s a kittie. 🐈😹

KellyAlzan

And posts under multiple accounts. And demands people answer her rambling questions as if she is the authority here

phydeaux994

I always answer you and challenge your rediculous statements with facts that dispute everything you say, and you either ignore my questions and facts or give some laymo excuse for not answering them as you have in this very discussion. See Below CD, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS!

phydeaux994

Sorry CD, I Posted this before I saw your answers below. My apologies and thanks for your reply.

CDReid

No apology necessary. And, contrary to what some people would like to think, I try to answer all questions asked of me. Whether those answers are popular or not I'm not concerned with.

DickD

Are you calling CD a skunk, Pappy? I don't think CD will like that.

CDReid

Compared to what the libs call me, Dick, being called a skunk is a compliment.

bosco

Know the difference between a dead lawyer in the road and a dead skunk in the road? Skids marks before the skunk!

pappyjoe

CD your right[smile]they arrived in the back of a tractor trailer so.......load them up and I`m give the driver a tip[beam]

CDReid

Give that illegal alien $10.00 for a settlement and ship her and her anchor kids on back to where she came from!! NOW!! She's cost we LEGAL taxpayers enough as it is!!

DickD

Go talk to your buddy, CD. He caused it.

KellyAlzan

Sherf Trumpkins cost the tax payers big time.

Her prevailing in a suit against him is a bigger win than his winning the election

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Burgessdr

You cost the taxpayers too. Sucking up that disability and welfare because you are too lazy to work.

gary4books

Thisw is so much a thicket of misconceptions and lies that I have no hope for it. The USA does need workers and they should be legal and the way to do that is to have a law that we can live with and stay legal. Right now these laws are to keep the illegal workers in line. Why else do they not apply to the employeers? They are the ones that ought to pay the big fines and fix our system. But they like the current mess.

CDReid

Hey gary, we already have laws that we can live with. They just need to be enforced!

gary4books

All laws should be enforceable. Otherwise we have drug laws, speed laws and even gun laws that are jokes. But most will say the current immigration law is broken. let Congress vote and we will see who wans to change in the law.

CDReid

And just how is the current immigration law broken? Because they can now just waltz across the border and take advantage of out system? If that's the case then, yeah, I agree, it is broken. Badly.

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KellyAlzan

Bush junior was all for granting work permits to the existing illegal immigrants. It was overshadowed by the war and the recession. Many articles about his favoring work permits for the existing illegals online.

User1

So why hasn’t congress done anything? Seems all they want to do is “resist” Trump. Look at last year with DACA. Gave congress months to come up with a plan and...no go.

gary4books

McConnell has prevented any votes on Immigration bills when most would have passed with support from both parties.

pappyjoe

No awteam2000, hide and seek is not against the law. When found playing the game questions will be asked like, proper identification please. At that point if you hand the Officer of the Law a baseball card from another Country then the game is over. Every Judge knows this[wink]

awteam2000

pappyjoe,

This misunderstanding is why the county has to pay the “Benjamins”. The Sheriff office doesn’t know their authority. When County Sheriffs illegally over stepped their authority, Santos’ constitutional rights under the Fourth & Fourteenth amendments to be free from discrimination and from unreasonable search and seizures, that was illegal. You can’t ask one to present ID without reasonable cause. “Hide and Seek” doesn’t cut it. Nor does “eating lunch”. Nor being “Brown”. But your comment was coherent. That’s a step in the right direction.

DickD

A day without weed does wonders.

CDReid

How would you know?

DickD

Look in the mirror, the answer will be staring at you, CD.

CDReid

Nope, sorry Dick. Just looked in a mirror and saw no answer.

User1

Especially if it comes up with an open deportation order against you. How the he!! Is that violating your rights?

FrederickFan

Like most US Citizens, and no doubt the harsh critics of Ms. Roxana Santos and her family, who have commented and will continue to comment here, I find myself enjoying the privilege of my legal status, safely tucked away from any risk of being jailed while eating my lunch, not because of the quality of my character, the hard work I have invested, or anything I myself have earned, but because my fat butt just happened to have been be born here.

Heaven help these critics, so self righteous when it's the other guy who was born to disadvantage and is now locked away in jail, if someday they too find themselves in some circumstance where they are on the wrong end of "the Law.". Because then they will then know how it feels - the brutal loneliness of staring down the barrel of "the Law," shouted down by the hoardes of hypocrites, without anyone to help, but an occasional courageous stranger.

Happy Sunday.

DickD

You might add, FF, if your ancestors hadn't came to the U.S. many generations ago, as most of us can say. It wasn't until the early 1900's that laws came into being to restrict immigration. But almost all immigrants have faced hate and prejudice, not just Latinos. Look at what they did to the Irish.

CDReid

And you hit the nail on the head Dick, " laws came into being to restrict immigration." So, have those laws become more lax or have they become more stringent? You tell me.

DickD

You should know that answer, CD. In case you don't, they are more restrictive now.

Dwasserba

[thumbup]FF

User1

Her problems started waaay before she got to Fredneck county. She already had an order for deportation against her...and she knew it. See what happens when you pick and choose what laws to follow. And what about all the other charges....fake SS number...that’s called identity theft.

pappyjoe

Her pinocchi said: it`s not about the money[lol][lol][lol][lol]and Roxana Orellana Santos said: I was`t doing nothing to cause my arrest[lol][lol][lol][lol]. No!! Roxana Orellana Santos YOU, were playing hide and seek with LAW ENFORCEMENT honey. Now take your left over pocket change you will receive, buy a gun, go back to your birth place while your Pinocchio purchases a Rolls Royce.

awteam2000

“Hide and seek” a crime? You may want to share that with the judge 👩‍⚖️.

User1

Patrol comes around the back of a building and you see the, throw your “lunch” down and run. It’s called “acting in a suspicious manner”. The police have the right to ask what you are doing behind the business and to ask for ID. Just because it came up with an outstanding deportation order isn’t FCPD’s fault....it’s yours!

phydeaux994

She told the Deputies she was on lunch break from her job there. Had she been of the White persuasion the Deputies wouldn’t have stopped. Sheriff Jenkins was found guilty because he had told all of his Deputies to check the status of Brown people, not just the 287(g) trained ones, in violation of ICE rules. That’s why ICE kicked him out of the Law Enforcement Task Force side of the 287(g) Program. ICE later ended the LETF part of 287(g) because it was being used for profiling, which the FCSO was doing. Unfortunately for Republicans, the Constitution gives even illegal non-citizens some Constitutional protections. 😡😤

KellyAlzan

[thumbup]

And.....federal judges agreed with her

CDReid

"Had she been of the White persuasion..." Spoken like a true minority. Ah yes, the race card. Always a faithful, reliable one to fall back on. Huh fido?

KellyAlzan

The fcso played the race card. Hence the prevailing verdict in the plaintiffs lawsuit.

User1

In her own words, in the original story from last year, she stated that she ran from the police. Look it up. And in this story she states that she gave the police an El Salvadoran identity card. And guess what? Her name came up with an outstanding deportation warrant. Boo hoo hoo! Now take the money and run!

yogib

Most of these comments, demonstrate that there is a hateful underbelly in Frederick. such attitudes play into a fascist leaning, which in the long run, destroys any form of democracy and of course leads to a dictatorship. What happened to government serving all the people instead of just the wealthy white. (notice that most white people are cut out along with those who are poor or of color.)


CDReid

Wanting immigrants to come here legally is playing into a fascist leaning that's going to destroy our democratic republic and make it into a dictatorship? Oh really? I guess the next card you throw will be the race one, huh?

awteam2000

Btw, CD the liberal leaning Frederick New Post has a column by Pat Bucannon in the paper today and one by Victor Davis Hanson, yesterday. Trump just tweeted Hanson’s has a great book on him just release. Trump is recommending everyone read it. He’s going to see if he can find someone to read it to him. It doesn’t have a lot of pictures.

DickD

Maybe CD can read it to Donald, aw.[lol]

CDReid

I stand corrected, yogib, I see you already threw that card in your comment.

bosco

The race card and the blame Trump cards seems to be the only ones in the lefties deck.

Samanthapowers

Y - stories like this are the bread and butter of that crowd. heaven forbid they comment on something that helps another person or shares good news. they gnaw on this stuff like rabid dogs. especially that angry troll. and if you try to share a different point they result to bullying, insults, and cowardice. typical of that crowd.

rikkitikkitavvi

Sammy, you are the pot calling the kettle black.

CDReid

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] rik. And, even for a libturd, she's a pitiful excuse.

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rikkitikkitavvi

[thumbup] x3 CD

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awteam2000

Jessie Smollett ...
I never saw the show ‘Empire’ and didn’t know him before this mess but what Smollett did was awful, in so many ways. Exploiting others assaults, is so wrong. Especially for those that have been victimized by ignorant prejudices. He gives cover to those that would carry out real acts of violence. It seems like life has turned into a reality “tv” show. No separation of fact and fiction.
Shameful.
But meanwhile, ...
U.S. Coast Guard lieutenant Christopher Hasson, a self proclaimed White Nationalist and a card carrying NRA member, plotted mass terror attack targeting Democrats, journalists.
Don’t you wonder where he was radicalized?

Jeepers11md

There is no hate unless you break our laws and disrespect the laws our fore fathers died for our freedom she had plenty of chance to be a citizen and disrespected our laws . I feel no pain for her or her family I think they need to pack her up and send them back no money if she would have followed the law she be in no trouble speaking English after all those years here shame on her that is no excuse I say send the family back with no money and fine the Common Market for employing her what ever happened to that law about hiring illegals ? She needs to go and one example why we NEED THAT WALL

CDReid

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] Jeepers

DickD

You want us to fine all the farmers, seafood packers and Trump for hiring illegals? No, she is not an example of needing the wall, what we need is border security and that is not a wall that the Mexicans will pay for. That is a Donald Trump campaign promise for the deplorables.

rikkitikkitavvi

dicky your TDS is in it's final stage. Please seek help.

DickD

Ricky, I know you are trying to be derogatory, but calling me Dicky, is that the best you can do? [yawn]

awteam2000

Keepers,

Our forefathers wrote the laws. Right? And they said, no “persons” against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause. The 4th Amendment. The illegal act here was committed by the Sheriff’s office. And as a “Original Constitutionalist” you agree. Right?

ICYMI, you ain’t getting a wall.😛

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awteam2000

Is there a Instruction form to report to ICE each month and is it bilingual?

¿Hay un formulario de instrucciones para informar a ICE cada mes y es bilingüe?

Joeseamhead

The woman is a hardworking, positive contributor to Frederick society. Leave her alone.

CDReid

So are thousands of others in the county, does that mean they can break any laws they want to and not be punished?

phydeaux994

Millions of ILLEGAL AMERICAN EMPLOYERS do break any laws they want to and go unpunished CD. Do you believe that millions of American employers need these workers to stay in business? If you don’t, how do you propose getting all of the illegal aliens out of the Country and keep them out? How long do you think it will take to build a WALL/FENCE/BARRIER and have sufficient technology, manpower, vehicles and equipment to completely stop the hordes of murderers, rapists, sex traffickers, MS13 gang members, and caravans of refugees seeking asylum you and Trump say are invading the Country by the millions and bankrupting the Country? Months? Years? Decades? If you can’t answer these questions than you are just ????? in the wind!

CDReid

What, do have this comment saved and just copy and paste it every time an immigration story comes up? You're sounding more like a broken record with it then Kelly does with hers, and that's not intended as a compliment, fido.

rikkitikkitavvi

Hey fido wah wah waaaahwah wahwah.[beam]

phydeaux994

Answer the questions. You won’t because the truthful answers would expose your total ignorance of reasonable thinking. Let me help you. Much of the fence approved in the Secure Fence Act of 2006 was never built and very little was built to the original specs. After one year the DHLS came back to Congress and said the fence specified couldn’t be built because of the varying geography. A major Amendment was added to the Bill that essentially said “build whatever will work”. That’s why the existing fence/wall varies in design. Almost 400 Lawsuits were filed by landowners and environmental, animal rights, and citizens groups. Even Mexico filed Lawsuits. More than 70 of the Lawsuits are still being litigated 12 years later. Green New Deal will be fully implemented before Trumps WALL/FENCE/BARRIER could stop anything!!! Trump loves the uneducated, and the BTT‘s are his Poster Children. Answer the Questions or be known as FAKE COMMENTERS. 📶📶📶🛠🔩🧱📶📶📶

CDReid

All right fido, I'll give you some truthful answers;
1. No, I do not believe millions of employers need ALL of these people to stay in business, and especially don't need anymore of them to come here. And if you think that every illegal alien in this country is a productive member of our society, then you need to sober up for a change.
2. To get them out I would propose rounding up any that can't prove they're here legally, ship them back across the border and the hell what Mexico thinks about it, and putting enough armed troops along it to prevent them from re-crossing. Operation Wetback was a good start.
3. And without knowing the engineering specifics to building a wall, how the hell can anyone know how long it will take? That's a bogus question and you know it. But getting started on it is long overdue.
There, answers to your questions, OK? And that's a helluva lot more than I ever get to my questions.

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rikkitikkitavvi

Where did you get those cutesy little emoticon thingies phydo?[whistling]

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phydeaux994

I never asked you those questions before CD and I get your same blustering reply when you can’t carry on a reasonable discussion, which is always with anybody here. You are a Fraud CD, and thin skinned to boot. Go back to your yard CD, you’ll be safe from the Libs there. 🏳️🏳️🏳️

girlpolitic

Not sure you are right about that, unless you discount that the Maryland Comptroller file a lien against her for not paying taxes due.
Defendant
Name: Orellana, Roxana
Address: 52 Vienna Ct
City: Frederick State: MD Zip Code: 21702
Plaintiff
Name: Maryland State Comptroller
Address: Compliance Division
City: Annapolis State: MD Zip Code: 21411
Amount of Judgment: $1,820.02
Entered 02/17/2010

DickD

SMH, why would she pay taxes to a State that wants to deport her and once gone they cannot collect ? They better file a lien on that money coming from the lawsuit.

rikkitikkitavvi

How about we just keep her [censored] in jail and charge her for the three hots and a cot on a daily basis. Then if she ever gets the money fine the [censored] out of her with added penalties that take all but enough out of her lottery win for a one-way bus ticket back to the other side of the Southern border. Works for me. How about you dicky?

CDReid

She's already illegal Dick, so good question. Why would she want to do something legal now?

rikkitikkitavvi

No way hoza

sdm817

Illegal is illegal. Deport her as soon as possible.

KellyAlzan

And ignorant is ignorant.

She is now a millionaire, courtesy of Sherf Trumpkins. Do you think she is bothered at being deported? At your tax dollars? She can build a 6,000 sf house in her country for less than $100k in a safe area. Think about it :)

awteam2000

Yes, it was illegal for Frederick County Sheriffs to have detained Ms. Santos. By the Sheriff office violating her constitutional rights it will cost the county “big time”.

I wish we had a more astute Sheriff but we got what we got.

gary4books

We got what we selected.

BunnyLou

How many times is the FNP, democratic party shill, going to rehash this story? Everybody knows her story by now. How about doing some hard reporting on the cost/toll these illegal aliens have on the USA?

Jeepers11md

I agree FNP needs to stop printing garbage like this more important things like highway safety to worry about than some stupid illegal women that ignored our laws and respect

DickD

That would be interesting, Bunny. Especially if they also post what good they do for our country. For instance, they pay taxes and Social Security, but are not eligible for Social Security and fail to file income taxes to get money back as they are in hiding.

gary4books

I would very much like to see the facts on guest workers and how much the contribute. Then the cost of their being here, too. We would all have the facts.

Reader1954

I don't care how hard they work, illegal is still illegal

KellyAlzan

And ignorant is still ignorant.

Sheriff Chuck Christmas Trumpkin’s lack of education got this woman a big win in a lawsuit against him.

KellyAlzan

Gods way of telling Trumpkins that he does not approve of what he was / is doing.

DickD

True, but we have laws allowing sanctuary for those fleeing countries that are not allowing citizens to live in peace. So, you want to be selective in what law is enforced?

rikkitikkitavvi

Agreed reader.

gary4books

A "Sanctuary state?" I hope not. It was always a way to get some sense to enforcement of the law when he Congress would never vote on new legislation. A "kludge" at best, What we need is an updated immigrations law. Fix the law and leave workers alone. We need them. Our population is aging. We have crops to harvest and homes to build, to name just two of many needs.

SalMele

The border patrol, DHS, ICE our military have all endorsed the wall numerous times

almost nightly However, immigration experts Nancy Pelosi & Chuck Schumer

disagree, saying the wall won't work and they also have zero ideas. I'll go with the

opinions of the men & women who work the border daily not the open borders

crowd. Barrack Obama’s own border patrol chief, Mark Morgan, has repeatedly

stated that walls work. They free up resources to focus on the points of entrances

so they can detect more contraband and illegals.

Democrats fear only one thing more than the wall, that is the wall working. So far in

San Diego CA, Yuma AZ & El Paso TX where there were major problems with illegal

crossings before; have now all but vanished. Most of the American people don't

know this, but Democrats do know. They know the wall will work.

More caravans on the way. The current migration at our border is costing U.S

taxpayers a Kings ransom. Fleeing persecution? or fleeing for freebies? they sure

don't stay in Mexico when they reach "safety" or ask or offered political asylum in

Mexico. Why? because Mexico will give them NOTHING. So they make the long

journey to our border, our generous Democrats, and our tax dollars. Notice how

many of the migrants have made the long difficult journey to our country 8-9

months pregnant? Why would they do that? Give birth on American soil and the

U.S. taxpayers will not only pay for the birth of you're child but will also give you

state government assistance.


Democrats/ Socialists (they're the same except in name) programs like Deferred

Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) & Temporary Protective Status, (TPS.) are

permanent programs;There is nothing "temporary" or "deferred" about these

programs. They are designed to get refugees into the country, (usually from the

third world) then Democrats fight to keep them here using the charge of racism/guilt

/religion to anyone opposed (simple formula, works great).


To Democrats U.S. citizens are acceptable collateral damage to their future long

range goals of flooding the country and taxpayers paying the bill. Democrat

politicians and their voters have put families at risk of being victimized by illegal

aliens as in the cases Kate Steinly (nothing done) then.... Mollie Tibbetts, (nothing

done) and now, Police Cpl. Ronil Singh nothing will be done...who's next?


http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp


http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/

CDReid

Excellent post Salmele, and 100% true. Every word of it. [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

KellyAlzan

Keep drinking the Kool Aid, sal.

DickD

Without farmers and Trump hiring illegals, there would be few if any illegals, CD.

gary4books

Visit all (or some) locations like Mill Island where new housing is under construction. Most who do framing or roofing are not local workers.

rikkitikkitavvi

They should add something a little more potent for your Kool Aid kells.

DickD

We need border security; not a wall. A wall is not border security, it is a campaign promise made by your hero, Donald Trump. who hires illegals.

CDReid

Well Dick, if a wall is so ineffective, why aren't you lise calling for the portions that have already been built being torn down? Hmmmmm????????

CDReid

Correction: ".... why aren't you "libs" calling for the portions….."

DickD

You and Trump already want to waste money to build the wall. Aren't Republicans supposed to be against waste?

CDReid

Any legitimate reason in particular why you don't answer my question, Dick?

DickD

I thought I did answer CD. I pointed out it's a waste of money and most Republicans are against waste. Of course, if you are only a Trump supporter and not a Republican that theory goes out the window.

CDReid

No, you didn't answer it, Dick, so let's try again; If a wall is so ineffective, and immoral, why aren't you libs calling for the portions that have already been built to be torn down?

DickD

Because no matter how ineffective the wall is there is no reason to waste money. Now answer my question, CD. Are you a true Republican or just a Trumpster? Because no true Republican would want to waste money.

CDReid

Both Dick, and I don't consider the expense of a wall a waste of money.

francesca_easa

Thanks for being factual. While others out their head in the sand.

gary4books

Of the people in the USA who live on the border and their elected representatives, how many want a wall?

SalMele

Just a few examples of the more outrageous costs associated with illegal

immigration, we will pass this burden on to our children & grand children as has

been passed on to us.


*Congress debating DACA in is costing taxpayers millions of dollars. Thank the parents and Barrack Obama.

*Cost of educating illegal aliens is staggering. From K-12 it costs taxpayers on average $122,000 for EACH illegal alien student. This does not include the millions spent on bilingual ED, instructors, & day care. School class size are negatively impacted by illegal aliens and our students suffer as a result.

*Taxpayers are funding "in state college tuition" discounts for illegal aliens. (AZ voted to terminate this taxpayer expense.) Cost to taxpayers over a billion dollars annually.

*About one in five inmates in federal prison are foreign-born, and more than 90 percent of those are in the United States illegally. This does not include local jails and state prisons. At roughly $24,000 per year expense per inmate in Prison U do the math.

*$3Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate, process Illegal aliens in the Criminal justice system.

* Emergency services for city & states increase with illegal immigration (sanctuary cities). Taxpayer pay for every Police, Fire, Paramedic service calls for illegal aliens in their city's. Taxpayers pay for all Hospital emergency room treatments, ambulances, medications. Hospital wait times for citizens are negatively impacted.

*Every child birth by illegal aliens in the US is paid for with tax dollars.In the US, the average cost to have a baby without complications during delivery, is $10,808, which can increase to $30,000 when factoring in care provided before and after pregnancy (July 9, 2018 google.)

* Section 8 housing. Citizens in poverty in many cases wait behind non citizens for housing.

*$2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on is spent on food assistance programs such as SNAP, WIC, & taxpayer funded school lunches.

* The rumor of a new directive (Public Charge.) has illegal aliens refusing taxpayer funded benefits across the country. The new directive; if illegal aliens are using public services it could negativity impact their ability to stay in the United states or gain citizenship. This is already saving taxpayers millions & millions of tax dollars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3kFNOhnBqQ&ab_channel=OneAmericaNewsNetwork&fbclid=IwAR2_pWX9XgWFgXDzH3lw-91lysPT2P98DnINCR4DXrMfSJ9Y_thn8Dhd5O0


https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers?fbclid=IwAR1iwyyzS6kHHl46uJEqU2epvJDrgNi1ZDGAYiIlhyabKysb-uTJoH3QSG4

CDReid

Financial facts that the illegal loving libs either can't or won't acknowledge. But they're financial facts that won't go away. Those people need to get their heads out of the sand before illegals bankrupt the country. Do a search for "Hospitals that have closed down because of the cost of illegal immigrants" for a prime example.

phydeaux994

CD, could you post a couple links that document the truth of your statements? I know you will say something like “%@#$&’ fido, look it up yourself you simple minded libturd .+%-#$@& your *%+#@&$”. I have already done that but the information I find says just the opposite. Trump has already “promised” the Farmers their illegal workers will be able to stay with them.

DickD

Yes, the hypocritical employ illegals and nothing is done about them hiring illegals. Then CD and others say we want a sanctuary state as their hero. Donald Trump hires the illegals. So, what does CD do, he calls us haters because we point out the truth and he can't live with the truth.

CDReid

%@#$&’ fido, look it up yourself you simple minded libturd .+%-#$@& your *%+#@&$.

Thewheelone

Good one, Phydeaux994!

rikkitikkitavvi

“%@#$&’ fido, look it up yourself you simple minded libturd .+%-#$@& your *%+#@&$”

CDReid

Good one, rikkitikkitavvi!!!

CDReid

I said we want a sanctuary state, Dick??? Suggestion, post comments when you're sober.

DickD

Blame it on the farmers, blame it on Trump, they are the ones hiring illegals, CD. Without jobs there would be very few if any illegals. Call me a hater if you want, but you refuse to face the truth!

rikkitikkitavvi

Hater dicky? Nah just a low information Dem that has completely lost his brains because hrc lost. Get over it dicky. I'm sure she will throw her depends into the dem circus after a few of the pretenders drop out.

CDReid

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] rik. And I'm sure those Depends will be more than rank. [crying]

CDReid

DickD, you're not a hater, you're just ignorant when it comes to illegal aliens. We already have millions of legal immigrants here, and an estimated 12M-20M illegal ones. So, YOU TELL ME, how many more DO WE NEED????? Answer me, if you have the balls to.

awteam2000

Have every tried using fact check?

https://www.factcheck.org/

LeonardKeepers

if Hugh and his cronies have their way they plan on turning this state into a sanctuary state

CDReid

That's when the majority of the state that voted for Trump, as in 17 out of 23 counties, would have to secede from the state. Let the six blue counties and Baltimore pay for their precious illegals.

awteam2000

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