Fair Assault Death COURTESY

Police activity seen from the Ferris wheel at The Great Frederick Fair shortly after the deadly assault in September.

The 15-year-old who threw the final punch in a fatal assault at the Great Frederick Fair last year will remain in juvenile detention pending the completion of a long-term behavioral modification program, according to a judge’s order Friday.

Frederick County Circuit Court Judge William R. Nicklas Jr. ordered the teen to remain in the Alfred D. Noyes Children’s Center in Montgomery County until the Maryland Department of Juvenile Services finds him space in a suitable staff secure facility where the boy will receive individual and family therapy, as well as medication and other services with the goal of ultimately releasing him back into the community.

Nicklas’ decision was in line with what was asked for by prosecutors Rebecca Clinton and Laura Wilt, who asked Nicklas to impose the maximum possible sentence on the teen, as opposed to the recommendations of Jason Shoemaker, the teen’s attorney, who argued in favor of releasing the boy to complete the treatment while in the community with his family.

While prosecutors earlier argued in favor of trying the youth in adult court, in which sentences are determined based first on punishment for a crime, deterrence of future crimes and lastly on rehabilitation, the court ruled against the state’s motions and determined the teen would be tried in the juvenile system, which prioritizes rehabilitation.

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“Obviously we would have preferred that he be tried as an adult, but this was the best we could do given his status in the juvenile system,” said Frederick County State’s Attorney Charlie Smith when reached for comment following Friday’s hearing. “For the [victim’s] family, this was a loved one who they will never get back, but hopefully with this disposition they will be able to find some healing.”

Shoemaker, on the other hand, was pleased with the public defender’s office’s success in keeping the teen’s case in juvenile court, even though he wished the judge would have agreed to release his client on probation. While DJS will ultimately determine which facility would best suit the judge’s orders for the teen, Shoemaker said that, once the youth is placed and begins treatment, he could be released in as soon as six to nine months.

“I do wish that the court would have accepted our argument that giving his family the chance and the opportunity to [complete DJS’ program] in the community, and if not, to pull it back, which is what we were asking for,” Shoemaker said outside the courthouse. “... But on the other hand, [my client] is going to do what he needs to do as far as the services and there will be some silver lining in this cloud at the end.”

The 15-year-old and his 16-year-old brother were charged in the Sept. 20 death of 59-year-old Mount Airy resident John Weed following an assault on the midway at the fairgrounds. Witnesses indicated the 15-year-old approached Weed and asked him for a dollar, becoming upset when the man refused, according to stories published previously in The Frederick News-Post.

Both teens attacked Weed, hitting him multiple times, but the 15-year-old threw the final punch that left Weed unresponsive on the ground. The younger teen was charged with manslaughter, first-degree assault and two counts of second-degree assault.

The 16-year-old, meanwhile, was charged with two counts of second-degree assault, including one count for spitting on Weed after he fell.

The younger teen pleaded guilty to manslaughter in a hearing before Nicklas on April 29 as part of an agreement reached with the state that would see his remaining assault charges dropped.

During Friday’s three-hour hearing, Nicklas heard an impact statement from Weed’s sister, Lori Hawkins, who detailed how her brother’s death had shattered her family both emotionally and in terms of support for her and Weed’s parents and other relatives. Christopher C. Quasebarth, an attorney representing Weed’s family, read Hawkins’ statement for the judge, which also noted that Hawkins’ father had recently suffered a stroke, while all members of the family still struggle to process Weed’s death every day.

“Jay’s needless death leaves me to deal with this alone, and it is hard,” Quasebarth read on Hawkins’ behalf. “... We keep asking ourselves, ‘How? Why did this happen?’ He did nothing to deserve this.”

The teen’s father, Wade Taylor, also addressed the judge, saying his son deserved a second chance and denying prosecutors’ claims that the teen did not appear to have reflected on or accepted responsibility for what he did.

“This happened to be an unfortunate incident, a tragedy on both ends, and I do have sympathy for the Weed family, [my son] has sympathy for the Weed family ... but he’s a 15-year-old kid. He’s still growing,” Taylor said.

While Nicklas praised the teen’s success keeping up with schoolwork in juvenile detention, he also expressed shock and disappointment with recent statements the teen made in interviews with DJS staff in which the boy seemed to blame Weed rather than acknowledge his own culpability. Those statements were not read in open court.

The judge also rejected Shoemaker’s arguments that the teen would be able to receive better treatment in the community than he would in a DJS facility, expressing his doubt that his family had the time and resources to properly ensure the teen would attend all of the required appointments.

“I think the burden we would be placing on [the boy’s] family would be setting them up to fail,” Nicklas said.

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dancing donna

To do an act like these brothers did and for all those involved, shows serious problems that were long standing. They will not be rehabilitated in the juvenille system. They will get out and very likely become career criminals. Why? bc no justice was served. They got away with murder and now know they can get away with much more when released. Unless, they turn there lives over to the Creator, they will be a threat to our community the day they are released. The justice system needs a complete overhaul. Kids know they can get by with just about anything. Our tax dollars wasted on procedures and paperwork that initially look promising, but ultimately do nothing but waste time and resources. These procedures are timely and the heat of the crime cools, and people just forget about it. Cycle repeated over and over again.

KR999

Well put donna, very well put, I couldn't agree more! [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

jsklinelga

Dancing donna[thumbup][thumbup]

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threecents

Some people are posting here as though they know the kids and their parents and as if they witnessed the whole thing. Since I don't know all the circumstances, I am not in a position to second guess the judge's decisions.

phydeaux994

Do any of you BTT(BullyTagTeam) members even remember this story from last month?? I don’t remember many comments from you. I rest my case.

Teenager Arrested For Killing His Mother

April 20, 2020 - 5:00 pm

Application of charges says the suspect admitted he killed her.

Frederick, Md (KM) One person has been arrested following the fatal stabbing of his mother on Sunday in Frederick. David Frederick Miner IV, 19, is charged with 1st-and 2nd-degree murder, 1st-degree assault, three counts of 2nd-degree assault and resisting and interfering with an arrest.

rbtdt5

He was scum, but he didn't kill a random father of someone else for no reason. Sorry if mom let her kid grow up to be a druggy and it cost her life. Very sad, but will he be out of jail in a year? Two? 10? Sorry the only differences you see are race.

phydeaux994

My point is rb, and you know it, when the crime is committed by a Black or other minority, the RRR(RadicalRightRepublicans)/BTT(BullyTagTeam) posts 80 or 100 comments calling for their EXECUTION or Life without Parole but if the criminal is White and commits the same crime, hardly a peep out of any of you. How do you explain that rb et.al. if it’s not the difference in RACE??? Everything in this County and Country comes down to the Racial Divide as the Coronavirus Pandemic has made crystal clear.

jakereed

This is a ridiculous take but people who see everything through the lens of racism typically say ridiculous things like this. The reason this story draws so many comments is because of the randomness of it all. Not race. A guy goes to the fair, he's having a good time with his family, and the next thing you know he's dead because some little punk decided to sucker punch him for the fun of it. It's senseless violence against an innocent person and that's unsettling to EVERYONE, regardless of race.

It's not a typical crime by any stretch. In fact, it's about as heinous as it gets and when I first read about it the first thing that popped into my mind was the movie 'A Clockwork Orange'. The kids that did this were just straight-up delinquents and clearly rotten to the core. Some people are just like that and it has nothing to do with skin color.

On top of it all is the fact that crime statistics (which you're obviously completely ignorant of) show that black-on-white violence exceeds white-on-black violence by orders of magnitude. But in the media, it's usually only the white-on-black incidents that get a lot of attention. Nobody even talks about it most of the time when it goes the other way. So what you're saying is just complete, total, BS. But you're married to a narrative, and that won't change, so I don't expect you to reflect on the facts at all.

None of this will change you're attitude because you're

jsklinelga

jakereed

Welcome to the FNP comment section. Phydeaux994 is one of several regular contributors that sees everything as black or white, Republican vs. Democrat etc.etc.

This small group has espoused racism and hate for years along with an anti-religious bent. They view the white American male and our country's historical past, a patriarchal white Christian society, as a great evil. There is no room for "gray: or objectivity. The last sentence is the perfect example.

"Everything in this County and Country comes down to the Racial Divide as the Coronavirus Pandemic has made crystal clear" When people ask how I can support DJT folks like phy come to mind.

KR999

jsk, an accurate synopsis of phydeaux and his LWBTT (Left Wing Bully Tag Team.) [thumbup]

jagman

Let me state for the record here, fido, that I enthusiastically support the death penalty for the kid who killed his mother. A particularly heinous crime such as this one is a textbook example of that which is deserving of that sentence.

Much as you try to make everything about race, it simply is not.

phydeaux994

I find it amazing how Racists can justify and deny their Racism here in the County of the Klan. I lived for 68 years in P.G., Montgomery, and Columbia in Howard County in highly diverse Communities and the subject of Race never came up in our daily lives. Then we moved to Frederick County in October of 2008 and I wrote a few LTE’s to the FNP supporting Barack Obama for President and was shocked and very concerned about the response they generated. The blatantly Racial venom that came my way was frightening. And it hasn’t changed much in the past 11 years. I talk about Race because I continually have to see obviously Racist comments like the following:

****bosco May 15, 2020 1:08pm

Being heavy is indeed one of the risk factors for the virus, as is the high blood and the sugar diabetes. Since the coronavirus is equal opportunity, what forces are at work in the minority communities? Could it be that the man ain't tellin' me what to do? Could it be a culture of lax handwashing? Or, can you just blame it on whitey?****

Stop writing crap like this every day and I’ll stop talking about the blatant Racism we have to endure here.

KR999

Fido, you've seemed to have missed my earlier question so I'll pose it again; do you acknowledge that the black race has it's share of racists also? And another one, if you don't mind; if Frederick County has so many racists that you claim you find it necessary to used a screen name and reveal no personal information about yourself, as you have stated here, why do you remain here in the county? Why do you not move back to P.G., Montgomery, or Howard County where "the subject of Race never came up in your daily lives?"

jsklinelga

phydeaux99

Your explanation of why you are a racist falls on deaf ears. Typical you blame it on others and now Frederick County. One would wonder why you chose to live here since you feared for your life.

In 2008 I taught in Baltimore during the day. 95% black, ex cons trying to better their life. In the evening I taught young working men in Washington County. The Presidential race was discussed in both. I wasn't surprised by certain racial undertones in Baltimore but I was slightly surprised by some of the bigotry from some in Washington County.. It ended quickly

In Baltimore I asked why they call each other...N word. It was near my first day and I received some glares. Then I asked one of the more vocal younger men, straight out, do you believe God sees color? After a quizzical look he bashfully said no. Racism died in that classroom, that day. It was similar in Washington County.

When I went to Frederick High it was at least 50/50. As most can tell you from that time we were not enemies but classmates. But I never encountered such blatant, hostile, invective and constant racism until I wrote a letter to the FNP and read the comment section. It was and has been a bastion of hate and racism for years now. It is no wonder it has such a small following.

No phydeaux you can not blame who you are on others.

MD1756

phydeaux994, Are you accusing the virus of being racist?

phydeaux994

I’ll make it real simple for you guys and gals. Is bosco’s comment I included here, Racist or not???

CD, anyone who believes their Race is superior to another or others is a Racist no matter what Race they are.

MD, I know that the Coronavirus Pandemic has caused death to minorities much more than their percentage in the population. The Coronavirus itself can’t differentiate between Races.

I have asked members of the RRR(RadicalRightRepublicans) here numerous times to put out for all to understand, the reasons they support and defend Donald John Trump. How has he made America more of a World Leader, respected beyond the status we have always enjoyed by the Free Countries who are our friends and allies. What has he done to deserve being re-elected to the most powerful position in the World as POTUS?? Is America a more united and prosperous and happier Country since he took Office??? Is our Government a model for others to strive to achieve?? Why have you RRR(RadicalRightRepublicans) not been able to list those reasons? His only endearing quality to you seems to be his aversion to anyone of Color or Religion or those who disagree with his Politics. It should be an easy task for any of you who adore him so.

jagman

OK fido, I'll give you one last response. I am not one of your RRR types as I am an extreme libertarian. Look it up if you don't know what that is. However, I am a strong Trump supporter. As such, I have laid out my reasons for support at least a hundred times over the last few years...sometimes to you directly and often to others. Since you still ask I can only conclude that your are either incapable of understanding the written word or you are just blocking out what you don't agree with. Perhaps your shrink can help you if the latter is the case.

That may be why no one responds to your rants about RRR and BTT and the other complete nonsense about Trump.

And for that matter, what possible connection does Trump have with this story about the punk who murdered an innocent person at the fair last year? Are you so addled with TDS that you cannot think about anything without making some Trump connection?

If so, that's rather pathetic. And sad. I actually feel bad for you if that's the case.

I hope you get better.

rbtdt5

Phy, once you could carry an debate, now you are just "you are bullies, you are RRR, you are racist." When you can come back to chatting, let me know, until then I will just look at your posts as a troll. I

phydeaux994

The same ol’ RRR(RadicalRightRepublican) dodge, “I already told you”. No you didn’t jag. It is the same thing over and over, you guys can call me names and tell me I’m whacko but you can never tell me specifically why I’m wrong about DJ Trump, why he’s made America BETTER, how he has improved ALL Americans LIVES, why you want him for four more years. MAWA!!

phydeaux994

rb, point me to any of your comments today that resemble chatting. And please answer my question about bosco’s comment. ✌️

jagman

Well fido, I think you may be suffering from groundhog day syndrome.

Not sure if there is a pill for that.

KR999

Fido, you make every issue a racial one, and then deflect it to an anti-Trump one. You comments are getting less and less worth reading.

bosco

KR999 said: "Fido, you make every issue a racial one, and then deflect it to an anti-Trump one. You comments are getting less and less worth reading."......KR, From what I've gleaned here, Fido is a classic case of projecting - in this case racism. Projection is the mental process by which people attribute to others what is in their own minds.

The most telling part of projecting here on the FNP board is that we are all truly equal, no race, no color, no sex, no voter registration card, no age.. The anonymity brings out projection even more.

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jagman

Hey fido, attached is an excellent article that will perfectly explain why you are suffering from extreme TDS. Take a read. It's free and will do more to help you understand your mental health than any number of overpriced psychoanalysis visits.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/on_trumphatred.html

In fact, it could very well be that your shrink is contributing to your TDS. Great way insure continued billable hours.

phydeaux994

CD, the Racial thing started with my objection to bosco’s Racist comment about the “traits” of Black people that makes them more susceptible to the Coronavirus. As I said, if you all stopped with the Racist comments I wouldn’t have to talk about race. But you won’t so I will continue to object and call you by the Dictionary definition. Did you think the comment was Racist CD? BTW, will any of you RRR(RadicalRightRepublicans) list the reasons you support Donald John Trump who has the Free World pitying our once Respected Nation and the pinko Commies celebrating their accomplishment. Later Gator!!!

KR999

BS fifo, the Racial thing did not start with your objection to bosco’s "racist" comment about the “traits” of black people that makes them more susceptible to the Coronavirus. You make a racial issue out if every issue, no matter what the subject. And then you bring Trump into it. Tell me, fido, what, exactly, do the reasons why I support Trump have to do with this article about a 15 year old black kid murdering a 59 year old white man? HUH? You tell me! Waiting...………...

bosco

The laughable thing about your cries of racisim regarding my post asking what forces are at work in the minority communities is that I grew up with those forces at work in my family. Luckily, I was able to get a good education and pull myself out of poverty and the peer/social pressures to hold me back from achieving too much and being uppity.

So, Fido, your accusations of racism are hollow and sad.

MD1756

I think part of the problem is the teenager's family is saying what a good kid he is. In both cases, if the defendants are found guilty, give them the death penalty (costs sometimes should not be a factor).

KR999

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KR999

Just because you don’t remember many comments from the story you referenced, fido, which is an easy enough claim to make since the comments were disabled for that story, doesn't mean that we, your "BTT (Bully Tag Team)" didn't write any. Now did you ever think that the reason the comments were disabled was because of all the ones that were written which were against the drugged up dirtbag and what he had done? I know the ones I wrote were.

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rbtdt5

Right after you post yours.

fisherkid89

Its true these boys targeted this man for a knock out game, the chase him because he was white and old. It makes them look tough sucker punching a 60 old man. While I don't think they planned on killing him they should be charged with manslaughter and assault. They should be in jail till they are 21 at least

MD1756

"“I think the burden we would be placing on [the boy’s] family would be setting them up to fail,” Nicklas said."

They (the boy and his family) have already failed. Parents need to be held responsible when they have children they cannot or will not take care of properly.

awteam2000

There are laws on the books that hold ‘Parents’ responsible for their children’s behavior. Seeing neither child had any past criminal offenses and the parents were assessed as not being negligent parents, that wouldn’t get the kids of the hook for their wrong doing.

I’m sure the parents are wondering what went wrong, why there children or anyone else’s child would intimidate a stranger for a ‘dollar’, then put their hands on them. Weed’s life was as relevant as any one else’s. It was cut short by their actions. There may be underlying reasons for there actions, but there is no excuse. The boys will need to deal with their mistake and suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives.

Let that be a listen to anyone who would intimidate or force their will on others.

VJKC

Some counseling and behavior modification should be provided for his friends that watched and filmed the killing while laughing and praising his “strength”.

Nancy Day

How come no one stepped in to help this person? Here's a suggestion, instead of commenting on this local podunk site, get out and make the changes you want to see.

bosco

Ah, yes, the good old days of vigilante law and swift justice. (Sarcasm Alert)

threecents

Bosco, you don't think bystanders should try to stop violence if there are no police around?

thump1202

The laws need to be changed if we want good Samaritans to step in during violent conflict. There is too much liability to involve yourself in someone else's business. It's well known, that's why no one would step in and everyone simply pulls their phones out and records incidents.

bosco

Threecents, trolling again? How in the world could you derive your question from what I posted? Sheesh. [ninja]

threecents

Bosco, That sure looks like what you posted. Sorry if I misinterpreted.[huh]

KR999

Nancy, it's my understanding that most of the kids who videoed this incident knew the two punks involved and the impression is that the whole thing was set up as two black kids playing their "Knock out game" on an unsuspecting older white man. Like one big wild dog pack mentality. My guess is that uninvolved others had the same impression and didn't want the same thing to happen to them that they just saw happen to a random, innocent man. As in fear for their own lives and safety.

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gabrielshorn2013

Yes plumbum. I believe they are now 2544880 and 2544881.

Quisling

This murderer will be back in society with a clean record, I feel sorry for whoever unknowingly hires or associates with this criminal.

jagman

In a just society this "kid" would have already been executed by the state for murder. Particularly since there is clear video evidence off the crime. No reasonable doubt on this one. And spare me the argument that we cannot know what was going on in his mind at the time. Who cares. He killed a man.

His age, race and social-economic standing are irrelevant. Only the crime he committed should be considered when determining punishment.

Instead, as others have pointed out, he will get a "time out", a few useless drugs and will soon be released back into society. That would be downtown Frederick. I predict with some certainty that he will become "news" again in the future. Count on it.

KR999

I've little doubt that your prediction will come true, jag.

bosco

Unfortunately, his path has been chosen. I'll bet some of his former teachers could've predicted this outcome. [ninja]

threecents

Jag, I don't claim to be enlightened, but in an enlightened society the emphasis would be on rehabilitation - not punishment.

jagman

The only punishment for cold blooded murder is the death penalty. Quick, clean, solves the problem permanently.

A time out and some feel good drugs do nothing to solve the problem. Maybe, three, he will come back in six months and live next door to you.

Keep your lights on at night.

jsklinelga

threecents

I agree with your earlier comment that the bystanders should have helped unless it all took place too fast. And I do not agree with Jag that it should have been the death [penalty. It was not premeditated.

But a signal should have been sent to the community. Deadly actions like that will receive a powerful, deterring punishment. There is more to consider than just the boy. Such as the crime and punishment. The enlightened society remark is not only elitist and condescending but it is simply wrong. There was nothing enlightened about the society that helped create the culture that prompted this fight at the fair.

threecents

Obviously we are not enlightened, and I am not saying what should or shouldn't be done - or even what I would have done - just what an enlightened society would have done.

jagman

The guillotine was used quite efficiently by the enlightened society of France.

Maybe it's a good thing we aren't.

threecents

Sorry, how did we get to the French revolution?[huh]

jagman

You are the one that brought up "enlightenment". I simply provided you with a perfect example of an "enlightened" society that fully embraced the death penalty.

Not sure why you didn't understand. Perhaps because you don't want to.

threecents

OooKayyyyy.

girlie247

Will make my family think twice about going to the Fair again. He will be out 6-9 months?? What a Joke

Hollowed Ground

This fellow's social status isn't too much different than traveling fair ride operators. Their ranks are filled with stalkers of adolescent girls, one of the biggest groups of fair goers there is. And you always went to fairs then.

girlie247

I don't recall ever feeling at the GFF that I had to worry about my family being attacked. I would feel the same way if this story involved one of those "ride operators". What is your point?

threecents

Girlie, Are you afraid to go to the fair because of the crime, because of the punishment, or both? Or is you your main point that you are upset that the kids didn't get punished more?

MD1756

Please cite sources for your comment.

KR999

So, the boy has to complete a long-term behavioral modification program, probably at the taxpayer's expense, and, like as not, it will be a total waste of time and expense. He'll do what he has to do and he'll say what he has to say just to finish the program so he can be released. And he will have gotten away with murder.

User1

And then gets to be the “Hero of the Hood”. Pathetic!

KR999

Yep. [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

Hollowed Ground

But, he might find religion and become a preacher. Would that not cancel out all the bad he has done? He might even be hosting your next bible study session.

MD1756

That's a joke right? If you believe in a god, then implementing the death penalty is simply sending the person on to their ultimate judgement. If you don't believe in a god, then one person's life out of roughly 7.8 billion is rather meaningless no matter what the person may or may not do in the future. The one certain thing with the death penalty (and there should be a higher bar of proof than currently seems to exist although this one is clear cut as to the guilt) is that person won't commit any more crimes against others on this planet.

2xtoughman

We need a death penalty that provides swift justice if proof of guilt is 100%.

About your comment on only 2 children:

If good people had more kids, and crappy people had no kids, we would see a huge decrease in crime. The problem is that good people have to few kids and bad people have far to many. The result is a degenerate culture....

threecents

Rehabilitation is generally a lot less expensive than life in prison for a teen. Even a lot cheaper than the death penalty.

jagman

The death penalty would not be so expensive it we carried out the sentence in a timely fashion.

KR999

I agree 100% jag. This crap of allowing 15-20 years of appeals for someone who obviously committed a death penalty worthy crime, and has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to have done so, is nothing but a waste of time and taxpayers dollars. We have that moron O'Malley and his lib cronies in Smurfville, aka Annapolis, for not having full justice in this once great state. And that totally disgusts me.

thump1202

These boys got off easy and everyone knows it. "He's still growing" is not an excuse, he's been taught through this verdict that it's okay for him to kill old white men, just as society has taught him these people are the devil. I find it equally disgusting that other old white men are the biggest cheerleaders for this behavior, have some pride in yourselves.

VJKC

John Weed was not old.

gabrielshorn2013

He was 59.

bosco

And that's as far as he got. 59.

Dwasserba

"While Nicklas praised the teen’s success.... he also expressed shock and disappointment with recent statements the teen made in interviews with DJS staff in which the boy seemed to blame Weed rather than acknowledge his own culpability." Brains don't fully mature until 26. This one needs to be locked up.

search4u

One or both of these 'choir' boys will likely be involved in another violent crime within a short period of time. There will blood on this judge's hands.

Hollowed Ground

There are many judges with blood on their hands. The one in Michigan is about to take a blood bath.

gabrielshorn2013

OK, let's see how long the comments will remain open starting...now.

bosco

Blessed choir boys, blessed choir boys.

bosco

Raise up a child in the way he would go and when he is old he will not depart from it. What does the whole mess say about how these two were raised?

KR999

For the father to say that his boy is “not an animal, and is not a violent person” just shows how well he knows the boy he raised.

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KR999

"Wade Taylor, the father of the two teens, said during the hearing that his son who threw the final punch is “not an animal, and is not a violent person.”

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/crime_and_justice/deadly-attack-at-frederick-fair-may-have-started-over-1/article_1e572a3f-317f-50e9-bb12-231d76cc7f76.html

threecents

Please, no race-related comments this time.

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phydeaux994

If the races were reversed you wouldn’t say a word. I know that from participating on this Forum for 11 years and your “whitey” comment on another article.

Sensor

Sensor says: your comment is race related.

Chevy

Why does everybody have to play the race card? It doesn't matter if you are white, black, brown, purple or green, NOBODY has the right to have such disregard for another human being and take their life like that and shame on the people standing around video taping and nobody stepped in to help Mr. Weed.

francesca_easa

Thank you Chevy. That is definitely another troubling situation -- all the people who witnessed the event and made no attempt to intervene.

Hollowed Ground

Excellent observation. That says more about the morals of the community than anything else. Are we great or not?

jnlybj

Chevy -- Could not have said it better.I continue to pray for all of Mr Weed's family. The lives of the animals who attacked him are not worth the dollar they were after.And no, I will never attend the fair again,because I am sure these same creeps would be there.

MD1756

Watch the video and it seems like most of the people standing around are teenagers. What does that say about the community? Parents aren't raising their children as they should?

threecents

Chevy, I think we all agree with that.

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Chevy

This fine upstanding citizen is nothing but a punk. Should have been tried as an adult.

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bosco

Wrong, phydeax, a dirtbag is a dirtbag. It's just that I can call a whitey dirtbag and you don't get your knickers in s twist, but if I call a person of color a dirtbag, suddenly I'm a racist and you and your bully tag team all have your knickers in a twist and start making excuses for the dirtbag. So when I say Blessed Choir Boys, the moderators don't get their knickers in a twist either.

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phydeaux994

racist

noun

“a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another”....this describes your beliefs bosco, to a “T” based on your comments about Blacks not washing their hands and calling yourself “whitey” which you believe Black people call White people. So being called Racist is merely describing a person with beliefs that they are superior to another race. So why do you get your knickers in a twist about being called a Racist? It’s like being called a Lib or a do-gooder or some other descriptive label.

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bosco

Your point, phydeaux, " It’s like being called a Lib or a do-gooder or some other descriptive label." should also apply to dirtbags - regardless of their race. A low-life dirtbag is a low-life dirtbag and there are plenty of them to be found. It seems to be that it's only when a low-life person of color is labeled dirtbag that the moderators and others get their knickers in a twist.

And, BTW, phydeaux, don't pretend to know my beliefs.

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KR999

Fido, you do acknowledge that the black race has its share of racists too, don't you?

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KR999

If the races were reversed, fido, you know perfectly well that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be getting the masses riled up for rioting.

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cindy62060

phydeaux994 If the races were reversed, it would be a hate crime with substancial punishment.

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bosco

Phydeaux's comments reveal his/her own prejudices by projecting them on others without even knowing the complexion of the other person. Typical left wing offense when they don't have a defense - play the race or victim card and surmise what the other person MUST be thinking.

These two choir boys and their choir director father have most likely been playing the racial get out of trouble free card for years. Schools are afraid to discipline minority kids for fear of cries of racism - letting them get away with and thus rewarding misbehavior.

They will eventually reap what they sow

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threecents

Geeze Bosco, I asked to not mention race! I know you are not racist - just someone who panders to racists because you are devout Republican. Time to come out of the closet.

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awteam2000

Maryland and Federal government have hate crimes statutes. The attorney general can prosecute, if felt it meets the statute:

“Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, H.R. 3355, Pub.L. 103–322, Sec. 280003 108 Stat. 1796, 2096 provides for enhanced sentencing for hate crimes, defined as "a crime in which the defendant intentionally selects a victim, or in the case of a property crime, the property that is the object of the crime, because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, disability, or sexual orientation of any person."

The state would have the burden of proof that the boys intentionally went to the fairgrounds with the intention of selecting a victim to kill on the bases of the stated criteria. I guess they didn’t feel it met the statute.

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phydeaux994

bosco, your comment from an article yesterday that State Very Clearly your Beliefs about Blacks being inferior to YOU. That is the definition of a RACIST. I’m not pretending to know your beliefs, you keep telling me and everybody else on this Forum. Ain’t no mystery here.

****bosco May 15, 2020 1:08pm

Being heavy is indeed one of the risk factors for the virus, as is the high blood and the sugar diabetes. Since the coronavirus is equal opportunity, what forces are at work in the minority communities? Could it be that the man ain't tellin' me what to do? Could it be a culture of lax handwashing? Or, can you just blame it on whitey?****

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bosco

Fido say "bosco, your comment from an article yesterday that State Very Clearly your Beliefs about Blacks being inferior to YOU. That is the definition of a RACIST. I’m not pretending to know your beliefs, you keep telling me and everybody else on this Forum. Ain’t no mystery here*"

Typical left-wing projection of your beliefs and prejudices onto someone, pretending to KNOW what they must be thinking and believing. You don't know me, my race, how I grew up, or what I'm thinking. Because I have little tolerance for criminals and a reverence for the consitution and the rule of law, you ASSUME that I fit certain categories. Isn't that prejudice on your part?

bosco

Sorry, threecents, but look at all of the clicks it generated for the FNP's advertising revenues.

Besides that, it's fun to watch the liberals get all cranked up trying to defend criminals.

KR999

Agreed bosco, but it is getting boring watching them play the race card over and over again. They've cried "Racist!" so often, and illegitimately, that the term means little anymore, if anything at all. [yawn]

jagman

Exactly!. When everyone is a racist, no one is a racist.

threecents

Jag, You earned another OoooKayyyy.

threecents

Bosco, Thanks for coming out of the closet and admitting that you just push buttons to fit in with the racists. That's the first step in your recovery.

jagman

None of this has anything to do with racism. If you will note, it was you libs that brought up that subject first. Fido first and then you chimed in. Of course, another tactic by lefty was exemplified by your "enlightenment" comment. An attempt to elevate yourself above the unwashed masses.

KR999

An attempt to elevate him/her self above we "Deplorables."

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