A pro-immigrant group is looking to hit the Frederick County Sheriff's Office in the pocketbook by asking the county to reallocate money from the office's budget that goes toward the controversial 287(g) program.

Members of the RISE Coalition organized a driving protest through parts of Frederick Monday. The 287(g) program is an agreement between the sheriff's office and U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement, allowing trained deputies to check the immigration status of those booked in the county jail, and begin deportation proceedings if necessary.

RISE is calling for the money that goes to the program to be used for purposes including helping immigrant families impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic.

“We call on our County to stop funding the demonization and criminalization of immigrants of color, and to finally start investing in them, that begins with defunding the 287(g) ICE contract,” the group said in a statement.

Neither Sheriff Chuck Jenkins nor a sheriff's office spokeswoman responded to requests for comment Monday.

Sebastian Brown, a RISE member and organizer with the ACLU of Maryland, said they're looking at how to shift resources away from profiling and over-policing and toward programs that support families in need.

Money from the 287(g) program and about $2 million that Jenkins returns to the county each year could be better used by mental health crisis workers and other social services.

As volunteers gathered in a parking lot in Frederick's Hillcrest neighborhood and taped signs to their cars preparing for Monday's protest caravan, Jazmin diCola said she wanted to help give a voice to people who don't have one.

Her father brought her and her family to the U.S. legally when she was 10, she said, but she knows others weren't so lucky.

Now the immigrant community is even more vulnerable because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

“It is more like a forgotten community,” she said.

RISE member Maria Rodriguez said she saw the plight of undocumented families when she worked as a volunteer at her child's school.

Undocumented herself, to be in the U.S. in that situation “is to feel totally discarded, as though you're less than a human being,” Rodriguez said through an interpreter.

They're calling on the community to demand that the county executive and county council end support for the 287(g) program, she said.

But it may not be so easy.

Council members and County Executive Jan Gardner have maintained that Jenkins is an elected official, and although they allocate money to the sheriff's office, his duties are laid out in the state constitution, and he answers directly to county voters.

The council gets emails about what other counties are doing, and asking why Frederick can't do the same, said County Councilwoman Jessica Fitzwater, who attended Monday's protest.

But unlike some other counties, law enforcement and corrections in Frederick County are both under the sheriff's authority.

And while the council can cut from the county executive's proposed budget, they can't shift money around, Fitzwater said.

If things were cut, the sheriff's office would have to determine what its priorities are, she said.

Follow Ryan Marshall on Twitter: @RMarshallFNP

Ryan Marshall is the transportation and growth and development reporter for the News-Post. He can be reached at rmarshall@newspost.com.

(107) comments

KR999

Interesting, the defamatory comments that Pb wrote six years ago about FCSO deputies cheating on their spouses and Kirby Delauter hiring illegal aliens, and the liability they posed to the FNP, have been deleted. I wonder if the moderators are going to be keeping a closer eye on what she writes from now?

DickD

If you read that CD, you know that the FNP called FAIR a racist organization and that they considered Jenkins trip to the Rio Grande River nothing more than a photo op.

gabrielshorn2013

No dick, the FNP did not. The Siuthern Law Policy Center did. That once-great organization that I used to support was discovered to be nothing more than a money generating front for its founder and members of its Board of Directors. I posted that information previously. Perhaps you missed it or forgot.

gabrielshorn2013

Correction, Southern Poverty Law Center.

gabrielshorn2013

Oh, and BTW dick, if you bothered to look to see who is on FAIRs Board of Directors and staff you would see that they have people of many races. Pretty discriminatory, eh?

KellyAlzan

FNPSTAFF:

I have been away and I made come comments today, only to be trolled and harassed by KR999. As you can see, KR999 is also trolling and harassing people other than myself.

When I agreed to the terms and conditions for the subscription, it was not disclosed that I would be subject to being trolled and harassed by other commenters.

Do you pay KR999 to harass people?

About a month ago I determined that GH (gabs horn), but from now on, I'll refer to him as G.H. has a way of harassing people who post content that he does not like or does not agree with. And that's what KR999 is doing, too.

Is it FNP culture to allow and permit bullying?

Kelly Q. Alzan

Lead Commenter

Voted Best FNP Commenter in 2007 and 2015 and 2019

KellyAlzan

Gabbs - your name calling is violating the rules. I've reported you for name calling

KR999

You called her Plumbum, gabe. Tsk, tsk, tsk....

gabrielshorn2013

Well, she chose the moniker "LEAD". Plumbum is simply Latin for lead. Accurate, and not name calling at all.

KR999

You know that, and I know that, gabe. She's just having a hissy fit for bring exposed for all the BS she writes over the years. And, being the legal expert she is (in her own mind,) one would think she would know better than to write some of the garbage that she does. Smh.

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bosco

Looks like somebody has their knickers in a twist. I thought Phydeaux informed us that this is an opinion site. Aren't all opinions to be valued, even if we don't agree with them?

Peace, people, peace.

Have a cold Corona and chill.

[ninja]

KellyAlzan

👍🏻👍🏻

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KellyAlzan

Deputies and command staff cheating on their spouses is not inaccurate. But, as public servants it is poor ethics. If they betray their spouses - they’ll betray those they serve.

Now go drown in your misery!

MD1756

So clearly you were outraged by Bill Clinton?

KR999

I'm sure she was, MD1756.

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MD1756

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KellyAlzan

I’m sorry. This is not about me.

I am not mad about anything. It’s a freakin online comment thing. It’s not that serious. All that matters is I’m a hero to my kids, not to anyone on a cyber space forum.

This is about trolling and harrassing other commenters.

Two people spent the entire day here trying to one-up and prove others wrong. That’s an obsession about being right. A true mental illness.

I’m sure your arguments in the comments will really make a big difference in the world

Kelly Q Alzan

Lead Commenter

FNP Commenter of the month

KR999

Like you said, Pb, "it’s not that serious." Quit making a mountain out of a molehill.

DickD

CD and Gabe have a problem

gabrielshorn2013

No dick, we do not. Plumbum deliberately posts rumor, innuendo, and outright lies, and I pull up the facts, such as excerpts from the actual laws and regulations to refute them. Yet she continues with the same old vitriolic tropes because she has a wild hair for the Sheriff. That's not a problem dick. That's setting the record straight with the facts. Pity you can't understand that.

LeonardKeepers

i would think the trumpkins realize a whole lot more than the non believers

DickD

It is troubling that the County pays the Sheriff, but he is allowed to spend money any way he wants. Guess that explains his patrolling the Rio Grande River with a automatic rifle slung over his shoulder. Jenkins doesn't realize Frederick County citizens pay for police work in Frederick County Maryland.

KellyAlzan

There is a lot Trumpkins doesn’t realize

KR999

And what would that be, Pb?

MD1756

And you call out others for name calling?

KR999

She's the queen of hypocrisy, MD.

gabrielshorn2013

Again with this, dick? As has been explained to you multiple times, that was a fact-finding mission and training regarding the smuggling of narcotics from Mexico, across the Rio Grande, into the United States at the height of the heroin epidemic. Should the FCSO not understand the issue and be trained? Yeah, sometimes you have to be away from your desk for training. You were trained at Bechtel, AT&T, etc. when you were working, right dick? Were you at your desk, or off-site? Most of my job-related training was off-site. Furthermore, it didn't cost the citizens of Frederick County a dime, did it? As for the rifle, it was provided by the Border Control Agents because the narcos and smugglers were firing on Border Control Agents on the river at that time. It was not a photo-op prop. Google it.

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Dwasserba

You don't have to be notified when someone responds to your comment so if you don't check back, welp

DickD

And you come back with this garbage each time, Gabe. Jenkins doesn't work for the Border Patrol, no matter what you think. And someone giving him a automatic rifle to do it is not justification. If Jenkins wants to be a Border Patrol agent, he should apply to be one, not use Frederick County taxes to do a federal job.

gabrielshorn2013

Garbage, dick? OK, I'll take that as a non-answer. What I posted is readily verifiable if you took the time to do so. Google can be your friend. He was there for training, dick. When investigating a supply chain, you go to the source and trace it all the way back to your locale. That's how supply chain tracing works. I don't ever recall him stating that he wanted to become a Border Patrol Agent, nor have I ever stated such. Could you show me where he (or I) ever said that? Participating in the 287g program doesn't mean you work for Border Patrol either, dick. It does mean that, after someone is arrested and found to have an outstanding deportation warrant, that ICE will come and get them, paying the FCSO for their time. How is that a bad thing?

MD1756

Dick, I've cautioned commenters (including you) before about not cooperating between the different levels of government. There are plenty of situations where the federal government provides assistance that is not its responsibility. Maryland receives more from the federal government than it provides to the federal government. Watch out because the next disaster we want help from the federal government they may come back and say its a local issue that should be funded by local dollars and not money from tax payers not affected by the emergency.

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DickD

You call everyone that doesn't agree with you as being hatred. More Donald Trump rally garbage.

DickD

You say it doesn't cost Frederick County. How can that be? Did Jenkins take vacation time to protect the U.S. borders? If not, our tax dollars are being misused.

KR999

Ya know Dick, if you bothered to take the time and do a little research into the FNP archives you'd find that the sheriff's trip did NOT cost the taxpayers any money. I guess it's just easier to look foolish, huh?

"Jenkins' trip was paid for by the Federation for American Immigration Reform"

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/crime_and_justice/jenkins-without-more-support-at-the-border-no-county-safe/article_d94b03c2-ad5a-5bbd-941f-ae04fa792154.html

DickD

Elect someone willing to work full-time for Frederick County in 2022.

gabrielshorn2013

You mean never leave the office, dick? Not even for training? Got it. Yeah, that'll work. I'll bet Karl Bickel will do off-site training. Is it OK if he did/does?

DickD

FAIR, a white supremacist group with one mission, which is to eliminate immigrants. And why was Jenkins taking money from them? .And how does Jenkins justify doing the bidding of a White supremacist group. If Jenkins was really at the border for training why was it necessary for FAIR to pay for his expenses. Wouldn't Frederick County pay for legitimate training for immigration?

KR999

What difference does it make who paid for his trip, Dick? The Frederick County taxpayers did not, as you were so sure that they had. You really do need to research before commenting.

KellyAlzan

Funny how with gabbs, no one is supposed to make mention of Trumpkin’s blunders and mistakes.

There is no exporation date to a public servant’s screw ups. That’s not how politics works. That’s not how public service works. When a public servant fouls up - the doors open.

“Oh oh, fellow Commenter mentioned the past, how dare they”

Yeah And guess what? You can’t control anyone!

KR999

"KellyAlzan Sep 1, 2014 6:12am

One of two things:

A) you're drunk

B) you never worked for FCSO

There been way more than one affair. And I suspect to this day the spouses have no idea. But I know of retired FCSO staff that would be willing to talk to FNP reporters about the affairs. Please contact me for the contact info for the sources."

OK Kelly, how can I contact you to get their contact info. I'd really like to pursue this.

gabrielshorn2013

Plumbum, I didn't seem to see the Sheriff's name as either of the arresting officers in the documents I was able to review. Do you have a document stating differently? As you keep trying to gloss over, the two deputies arrested her after they discovered an outstanding warrant. If there was no warrant, there was no reason to arrest her, now was there? It was a mistake that those officers made, but the Sheriff is responsible as the head of the department.

DickD

A Sheriff has no legal authority beyond the County, unless a specific State agreement allows it. The agreement Jenkins has for 287 (g) does not include border patrol.

KR999

The sheriff was not on the trip to exercise his legal authority, Dick. He was there to see first hand the measures being taken to try to stem the flow of illegals and their drugs into the U.S. Why do you have such a problem with that, afraid your drugs are going to cost more? It's been six years since he went on that trip and you STILL have to harp on it.

hayduke2

Come on Gabe - your statements about being on a fact finding mission and training are a pretty thin attempt to justify a sheriff wanting to take a trip and pose for photo opps for whatever reason - I am sure there were some possibly legit reasons but this was basically a PR stunt. There are plenty of opportunities locally for training, information sharing and other similar activities. Try attending the trainings, seminar and conferences affered by groups like the IACP.

KR999

Hay, the FNP archives are a wealth of information, I suggest you use them.

“When a local sheriff takes a fact-finding mission to Texas to look at the border crisis, then it becomes a news story,” [News-Post managing editor Terry Headlee] wrote.”

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/crime_and_justice/cops_and_crime/in-emails-jenkins-rejects-criticism-of-texas-trip/article_79aab34b-7c02-5d7b-97b0-5ef3c708d953.html

What's pretty thin is your attempt to label the trip as a "PR stunt."

hayduke2

KR - I read that article and I think it points out the "pretty thin" aspects.

KR999

OK hay, what about all the other sheriffs from around the country who were on that trip, was it just a "photo op" for them too?

hayduke2

KR - can’t comment on the others since I am not aware of their circumstances- if Jenkins was concerned about the appearance, that should be the first clue. Kind of like Trump and the Bible photo op.

marinick1

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DickD

[lol Gabe, you are funny. That firing on the Rio Grande River was so bad Jenkins could pose with his automatic rifle on his shoulder. Any more ridiculous statements?

gabrielshorn2013

I'll note that again you fail to look it up. The border control agents provided him with a rifle in case it was needed. Come on dick, just go to the border patrol website for reports from that time. Jeez....

FrederickFan

Was Jessica Fitzwater there to protest herself? If she wants money cut why hasn't she made a motion to cut it?

Rockfish

The article says $2 million dollars are returned by Sheriff to the County. Isn't this money the money the Sherriff receives from the Federal Government for the local costs of the 287g program? Maybe this money could support a police body cam program?

KellyAlzan

No. It’s money from the

General budget.

Money that can be spent on training.

bosco

This is an easy one - you are either for illegal immigration or against it.[ninja]

marinick1

Bosco [thumbup][thumbup]

KR999

[thumbdown][thumbdown][thumbdown][thumbdown][thumbdown] Illegal immigration!

hayduke2

Bosco - few things in life are that simple. There are lots of nuances to the immigration problem, many of them neither solely black and white. How about the reason many come here to begin with - where's the focus on the employers ( like our current President ) who need them or employ them?

bosco

There are laws against knowingly hiring an illegal alien and they should be enforced. [thumbup][ninja]

KR999

Agreed, 100%! [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

MD1756

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phydeaux994

I am against illegal immigration. We need Comprehensive Immigration Reform that would allow American Industries to hire the immigrant workers they need legally. How many of the illegal aliens working here have been declared “essential workers”?? Millions!!

KellyAlzan

Good point!

MD1756

Those essential workers are working at jobs that pay so low that most Americans won't do the job for the wage offered. There is no need for massive immigration, the is a need for employers to pay their workers more and not take advantage of illegal immgrants.

BunnyLou

Bosco [thumbup][thumbup]

MD1756

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LeonardKeepers

any defunding of law enforcement is ludicress the 287g program should be continued even if it might be funded by tax payers.

KellyAlzan

According to Gabbs Horn, 287 has been long discontinued.

After all, it was 287 that got Roxie Santos and her atty a hefty payout.

KR999

And how much was that payout, Pb? Millions, wasn't it? [lol][lol][lol]

KellyAlzan

Never ever said millions, as in plural.

KR999

You said he made her a millionaire, Pb. A millionaire could have $1M or $50M. Face it, your hatred for our sheriff allowed you to make a total fool out of yourself, both in saying she got a settlement when one hadn't been reached, and in how much you said she got. A total fool. Keep up the good work, you do it well! [thumbup]

KellyAlzan

I stand behind my statement.

As long as you feel your day is fulfilled

gabrielshorn2013

You used the term "multi-millionaire" several times Pb.

phydeaux994

It was about $700,000 out of Frederick County taxpayers pockets. $200,000 for her, $500,000 to the Lawyers. Doesn’t matter who got it, that was the cost to us.

KR999

Ya know fido, you really oughta do a little research sometime. In the first place, it was $100k for her and $500k for the lawyers. In the second, county insurance paid for it. Try reading the article sometime, or would you rather look like Pb?

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/levels_of_government/county/sheriff/santos-awarded-100-000-in-settlement-with-sheriffs-office-county/article_76aa8ea1-aba9-5958-af65-db6d58ce0d66.html

gabrielshorn2013

Plumbum, the program that got Santos her "payout" is no longer in effect, and has not been in effect for 12 years. The story above is about the current 287g program that holds fugitives until ICE comes for them. It is a completely different program, and I have provided that information to you several times now. It is no different than if anyone else with an outstanding warrant gets arrested. The fugitive is turned over to the the jurisdiction with the warrant. Your continuing to conflate the two programs demonstrates that you have no intention of being truthful. You lie, I reply.

gabrielshorn2013

Sorry that you are still struggling to understand the current status of the 287g program, plumbum. Sad, especially if you are planning your ersatz campaign. Let's start over again, and I will explain it to you s l o w l y. Let me know if there are any words you don't understand, OK? There were two 287g programs. The FCSO was enrolled in both programs. They are:

• Jail Enforcement Model

The 287(g) Program utilizes the Jail Enforcement Model (JEM) to accomplish its mission, which is designed to identify and process removable aliens with criminal or pending criminal charges who are arrested by state or local LEAs. The JEM Program is supervised by the local ICE Office of Enforcement and Removal Operations Field Office. Under the JEM, nominated state and local law enforcement officers will be trained, certified, and authorized by ICE to perform only those immigration functions that are established on the Standard Operating Procedures (SOP) of the Memorandum of Understanding. ICE provides a training program conducted at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center ICE Academy in Charleston, SC.

• Warrant Service Officer Model

The 287(g) Program developed the Warrant Service Officer (WSO) model to provide an opportunity for jurisdictions to participate in a narrower cooperative agreement with ICE. Under the WSO model, nominated state and local law enforcement officers will be trained, certified, and authorized by ICE to perform limited functions of an immigration officer within the law enforcement agency’s jail and/or correctional facilities as set forth in the Standard Operating Procedures of the Warrant Service Officer Memorandum of Agreement.

ICE provides a training program conducted by certified instructors at a location most convenient for the participating LEA.

The first program was to train officers to apprehend illegal immigrants in the field, similar to an ICE officer. The FCSO left that program soon after the Santos incident over twelve years ago. The second program was to train officers in the detention center. When someone, anyone, is arrested for a crime, they are taken to the detention center and booked. They are then investigated to see if there are any outstanding warrants on the suspect. If there are, the FCSO notifies the jurisdiction that issued the warrant that they have their fugitive. Again, this is anyone that is arrested. The outside jurisdiction then has the opportunity to claim their fugitive. If the suspect has an outstanding ICE deportation warrant, or is shown to be an illegal immigrant, ICE, just like the outside jurisdiction, is notified that the FCSO has their fugitive. ICE then requests that the FCSO detain the suspect, and then retrieves them, paying the FCSO the detention expenses. Other outside jurisdictions do not reimburse the FCSO for detaining their fugitives.

Now that you have read, and hopefully understand the programs, let’s go over that first part again, shall we? The part that got Santos her "hefty" payout was discontinued at the FCSO twelve years ago. "Hefty"? $100K that was paid by insurance. She is still under a deportation order, and will eventually be sent back to her home country. She can spend her windfall there, and it is illegal for her to return. The law accompanying § 1325 is 8 U.S.C. § 1326, which makes the offense of reentering, or attempting to reenter the United States after being removed or deported, a felony offense in many instances. You will likely be permanently barred from the United States if you illegally reenter after a prior removal.

https://www.ice.gov/287g

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

(https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1326)

KR999

It's easier for them/her to complain about your research being too long to read than it is to get educated with facts, gabe. Because if they did get educated that might cut into their anti-Jenkins BS rhetoric. Keep up the good work.

DickD

She was illegal once. What makes you think that she will not return illegally. A chance to get a free trip home and after a couple of weeks back again. . Santos should thank Jenkins and his tourist operations with one way free of charge m

gabrielshorn2013

Oh come on now, dick. Once she is deported and re-enters the country illegally, she has committed a felony, which means real jail time (if enforced), and permanent exclusion from the US. The law accompanying § 1325 is 8 U.S.C. § 1326, which makes the offense of reentering, or attempting to reenter the United States after being removed or deported, a felony offense in many instances. You will likely be permanently barred from the United States if you illegally reenter after a prior removal.

The links to the references are above, should you wish to learn more.

KR999

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] BunnyLou !!

marinick1

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KellyAlzan

Dick is correct.

I’m aware of one individual, who was deported at least 3 times. Each occupation he never stated I. His country more than 10 days before retrieving to the states.

Nothing more than a US tax payer subsidized trip home to see mommy sisters, and cousins.

Who here can say they’re had a tax payer funded vacation? Other than Trumpkins trip to the Rio grande.

KR999

Taxpayers did not pay for the sheriff's trip, Plumbum. Keep trying though, maybe some time you'll get something right.

MD1756

"Gabbs Horn" ... seems like an attempt to be insulting.

chyandqt

For one thought, the USA is not like other countries. and the 287g shouldn't have been paid by us tax payers, to be allowed to come here. If you come here come here the right way and stop trying to sponge off the AMERICAN people.You drive around in the fancy cars, live in nice homes. at who cost the AMERICAN people. And most of you are nasty people, who don't even know how to say hi or good morning to a person.So, get a job like the rest of us. and pay your taxes here in American instead of sending it back home for your families. You work underneath the table to avoid paying the taxes....You deserve no more than the rest of the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Pisces

Well said

public-redux

It has a kind of poetry to it.

KellyAlzan

I know of immigrants that are more productive and self supporting than most ‘muricans. Your post is very IGNORANT.

KR999

As ignorant as saying the Sheriff made Santos a "millionaire" when the settlement hadn't even been reached yet? [lol][lol][lol]

KellyAlzan

Her payout can turn into million, even millions. People make money from money. Investing.

But not as ignorant as your post over the weekend. The one where you, as usual, got trigger happy and didn’t considers scenarios prior to replying :)

KR999

Whether or not she turns her settlement into $1M + is totally irrelevant, Pb. You repeatedly stated she was a "millionaire" and you were wrong. Again. And nothing I posted lately has a thing to do with this topic. Nice try at deflecting from your foolishness, though. [thumbup][lol]

KellyAlzan

When Americans are layed off : as many are right now : they work under the table : while collecting unemployment.

KellyAlzan

And most illegal immigrants DO pay taxes.

KR999

Most do? Why don't all of them who are employed?

gabrielshorn2013

Which taxes Pb? Sales taxes, yes. Road/Fuel taxes, yes. Both are point of sale taxes that everyone pays upon purchase. Income taxes? Yes, some do through identity fraud (a felony in itself) because they are not legally permitted to work in the US. Property taxes, yes, if they own property, or through rent if they don't. What else?

Reference: The first paragraph of 18 U.S.C. § 1546(a) proscribes the forging, counterfeiting, altering or falsely making of certain immigration documents or their use, possession, or receipt. The second paragraph proscribes the possession, or bringing into the United States of plates or distinctive papers used for the printing of entry documents. The third paragraph makes it a crime, when applying for an entry document or admission into the United States, to personate another or appear under a false name. The fourth paragraph makes it a crime to give a false statement under oath in any document required by the immigration laws or regulations. Subsection 1546(b) makes it a felony offense to use a false identification document, or to misuse a real one, for the purpose of satisfying the employment verification provisions in 8 U.S.C. § 1324a(b).

https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1524-false-identification-immigration-matters-18-usc-1541-1546#:~:text=Subsection%201546(b)%20makes%20it,verification%20provisions%20in%208%20U.S.C.

KR999

Additionally, illegal aliens cost the American taxpayers at least $4BILLION a year in false tax filings.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/investigations/13-investigates/tax-loophole-costs-billions/531-ba51f393-374c-4b11-ae94-b000a89576cc

KellyAlzan

Income taxes, GH.

Construction companies do not get paid in cash.

Lawn / landscape companies doe not get paid in cash.

Commercial fruit growers do not get paid in case.

Wharehouse industries do not get paid in cash.

You can not convert business checks to cash. People in the banking industry knows what this means, you probably will not.

You can google this and post that, and it still wont change the facts of what I'm talking about.

Car washes - cash industry.

Kelly Q. Alzan

Lead Commenter

Voted number one commenter in 2001

gabrielshorn2013

How do they pay income taxes without a legal social security number Pb? I addressed this above. I even provided you with a link to the law. If they provided fake documents for employment purposes as an illegal alien, they have committed a felony. Are they also filing income tax returns annually? If not, yep, another illegal act.

BunnyLou

Yes the pay sales tax, but not wage taxes. If they did they’d have had to either create a SSN or steal an unfortunate souls SSN. Just another crime to add to the list as to why they shouldn’t be here.

KellyAlzan

In reference to the comment that I initially responded to, and nothing other than the initial comment - YES, illegal immigrants (no, not all of them) DO pay income taxes.

Some will still want to argue with me. Some will want to make this personal about me. Some will take great strides to try to prove me wrong. Whatever makes them feel valuable and smarter, have at it!

bosco

chyandqt...are you confusing illegal immigrants with legal immigrants? People who follow our immigration laws and come here legally are welcome. People who ignore our immigration laws and break into our country are not.

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Dwasserba

Say hi or good morning first. Problem solved.

phydeaux994

Has the report on the cost, if any, of the 287(g) Program been released?

stevemckay

Nope. The audit committee will finalize the report this month, and then the Council will hold a hearing.

phydeaux994

Thank you Steve McKay, for that and for your work for our County.

stevemckay

Thanks!

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