BG Back School Protest - GS

Protesters shout back with chants to passing motorists outside the Frederick County Public Schools offices Wednesday afternoon.

Two weeks into the virtual school year, 7-year-old Blake Steinberg decided he had enough and tossed his Chromebook onto the floor.

“The crying, the frustration ... he just was not having it,” his mother, Sarah, said. “He could not focus on it. He wasn’t learning anything.”

So, Sarah Steinberg made the difficult decision to pull Blake out of his virtual first-grade class at Thurmont Primary School and begin homeschooling him, an added burden for a mother with four other kids in virtual school at home.

During normal times, Steinberg works in the food-service industry. But she had to give up her job to take care of her kids.

Her husband, Nathan, is a nurse practitioner who contracted COVID-19 through his job, yet, remarkably, did not give it to the rest of his family. He’s been working 60 to 70 hours a week, exposing himself to infected coronavirus patients for extended periods, to help make up for some of the family’s lost income.

“It has been a financial burden,” Sarah Steinberg said.

The challenge of balancing work and virtual school days is real for a lot of families.

That’s why Steinberg was in a crowd of close to 50 people that gathered outside the Board of Education’s building in downtown Frederick on Wednesday to protest the board’s decision last week to continue the virtual learning model through the end of the first semester in January.

The rally was hastily organized by Steinberg following the board’s 4-3 vote to stay with the virtual model for now. There will be another on Oct. 20 from 12-2 p.m. at the same location.

On that same day, Steinberg has helped organize a “Sick [of the BOE] Day Logout” that encourages students of Frederick County Public Schools to not log in for their virtual classes on Oct. 20.

All students that participate in the logout event are being encouraged to send notes to their school’s attendance office that they are using one of their five allotted vacation days so it’s an excused absence and they can make up assignments.

“We are going to keep fighting until [in-person] school gets back,” Steinberg said.

Those who attended Wednesday’s rally at the Board of Education building made strong statements with the signs they held up — “We belong in a classroom, not behind a screen”, “Why isn’t school essential?”, “Don’t put my education on mute?” “Stop holding our kid’s education hostage.”

People honked their horns in support as they drove past throughout the two-hour rally.

The protesters feel the Board of Education and FCPS have not done enough to facilitate bringing kids back to school safely. The school system has been unclear about what health metrics it is using to justify keeping schools closed, the protesters say.

“I think they feel that they are not being served, and they are not being listened to,” said Jefferson resident Sue Johnson, who attended Wednesday’s rally and is running for a seat on the Board of Education on Nov. 3.

If elected, Johnson said one of her first priorities would be helping schools to “safely” reopen with mask-wearing, social-distancing and other public-health mandates in place.

“Why isn’t the board meeting every week [regarding reopening]?” Johnson asked.

In order to safely reopen schools, she said, “I will bring my sleeping bag and not leave if I have to.”

Steinberg is not dismissive of the coronavirus or public-health concerns regarding in-person school.

“My husband had COVID. We take the virus very seriously,” she said.

She would like to see anyone concerned about returning to in-person school, whether they be students, parents, teachers or administrators, be able to continue in a virtual format.

“We want to be able to make our own choices,” Steinberg said.

Her children are maintaining good grades as they adjust to virtual learning. But she is worried about their mental health.

“They’re not engaged at all, and they’re always telling me, ‘Mom, we feel so isolated. We feel like we are not learning anything,’’ Steinberg said.

By organizing rallies and protests, she hopes to pressure the Board of Education into calling an emergency meeting and voting to bring kids back into schools before the end of the year.

“It’s going to take time. It’s going to take money. It’s going to take hard work to put these protocols and guidelines into effect,” Steinberg said. “But it’s worth it, and I feel like that’s where they’re on the wrong side of this. They are not putting our kids first ... and we’re not willing to let this generation of children develop this hatred toward school and learning and anxiety and depression that could last a lifetime for them.”Follow Greg Swatek on Twitter: @greg_swatek.

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SJCPLibrary

Teachers in Frederick County WANT to be in the classroom teaching their students. But until FCPS provides detailed plans and shows what steps were taken to ensure health and hygiene, it is not safe. If the mom has to homeschool her kids, so be it. If her kid throws his chromebook because he's frustrated with online learning, maybe the first lesson for her son can be controlling his anger and emotions. An important lesson that will serve him in the future!

Burgessdr

I have two grandchildren in virtual learning kindergarten and 3rd grade they like it and are doing well and so seem all of their classmates they are not isolated and still play outside with the kids in the neighborhood and sometimes do joint learning together yes it is different and strained but it would be even more strained if their 4 grandparents got sick and possibly died or if their parents got sick and could not work grow up people

MD1756

zane3, here is some interesting reading about the CDC see: https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-fall-of-the-cdc?utm_source=pocket-newtab. I can believe it because I saw similar situations at the U.S. EPA (Trump tried to cast aspersions on the "deep state" basically the staff who placed the vow to public service over the desire of the president to implement policies that were not in the best interest of the public or even those who believe in property rights whereby someone shouldn't be allowed to contaminate air, water, land they don't own to the harm of others on their own properties).

From the article: "Employees spoke openly about their “hill to die on” — the political interference that would prompt them to leave. Yet again and again, they surrendered and did as they were told. It wasn’t just worries over paying mortgages or forfeiting the prestige of the job. Many feared that if they left and spoke out, the White House would stop consulting the CDC at all, and would push through even more dangerous policies."

MD1756

zanes3, you still want to cite the CDC? See: https://www.fredericknewspost.com/public/ap/white-house-puts-politicals-at-cdc-to-try-to-control-info/article_29d93b68-116d-5750-b312-1b34a21cc05f.html

phydeaux994

So far, both of the Town Halls stink. They both are in love with the sound of their own voices. Question asked, a one or two minute answer, not a five minute soliloquy. Next question. Terrible. Why won’t Mark Warner run for President. I know, because he’s smart. But we need a young, intelligent, SUCCESSFUL businessman/Senator experienced in the combat of our deteriorating Government nightmare to bring the Country back. Even a REAL REPUBLICAN will do if he/she is honest, Honorable, and cares about ALL of the American people and ALL people around the World. And above all else, a LEADER.

LJF0929

Please understand - FCPS wants kids back in school. The last board meeting, they tried very hard and were incredibly disappointed when it was struck down. The BOE makes the decisions. The BOE members are elected officials that YOU, the people, elect into office. Take a quick looksy over to Carroll County where high schoolers were supposed to return this coming Monday but they had to push it off until mid-November because there isn't enough staff. So is the anger toward the staff, for wanting to stay healthy. I do wish our youngest children can go back to school soon - they need the social experience. However, this is actually a brief moment in time and there are other alternatives. High schoolers would be wise to get used to virtual learning - this is changing the face of not only public school, but upper education, as well. I am sorry kids are missing their senior years in person, and I am sorry kids are missing PK or K. We will get through. Other nations pack down and show grit when things get tough - we need a little more of that - what's best for all mentality, not just what's best for me and my family right now.

vjhughes

“Logic clearly dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.”

Mr. Spock, Star Trek.

StoneMountain

I am surprised and saddened at the cruelty and smugness of these comments. The WHO just put out a statement urging against lockdowns, the Great Barrington Declaration saying that the health costs of lockdowns outweigh their benefits has been signed by tens of thousands of healthcare workers and researchers, the CDC has put out data showing the flu is more deadly than COVID for people under the age of 50, the YMCA has been running childcare in four FCPS elementary schools all fall without the students and adult YMCA workers dropping dead... You might want schools to stay closed, but there’s more and more science emerging every day to support their opening. Ridiculing and shaming parents for having large families, or for struggling to parent their kids through distance learning when not every family has two parents in the home or a job where they can phone it in—friends, it’s a bad look. And more than that, it’s not a substitute for facts. People don’t have to use shame and cruelty when they can make their case with facts.

HappySeller2014

Sorry Stone. I learned at a very young age that complaining gets you nowhere, so why bother.

I can list as many facts as you can arguing the exact opposite of your facts. But that just gets both of us nowhere.

But being a proactive parent, a non-complainer, a responsible caretaker, a real-life educator and a perservering adult always gets your children off to a good start in life. Kids are normally in school about 30 hours a week. That means they are under their parents' care over 135 or so. During a national health crisis, the likes not having been seen since the 1918 pandemic, just put on your big boy and girl pants and perservere, as every smart parent knows.

StoneMountain

We homeschool our three children, one with disabilities. My big person pants are on, thanks. I don’t have a horse in this race aside from empathy for all the struggling families out there. I’m actually interested in facts—sharing them won’t “get us nowhere.” Sharing facts is what happens in civil discourse and logical debate. So share away! I’m open-minded. Facts might change my mind (as opposed to smug criticism and assumptions about my pants). Try me.

shiftless88

For a group of people who tend to tout "American Exceptionalism" there sure seem to be a lot of whiners who are conservative. I know this is hard. I know it is frustrating. I know it has been a long time. But these are not reasons to start ignoring science and just giving up. If you have been inside during a three-day blizzard you don't just decide you're fed up with it on day 2 and go outside where you will promptly freeze to death. Mother nature rules here and unfortunately that dictates the next moves.

zane3

Ha! You think I'm conservative because I want my kids to go back to school? You have no idea what you are talking about. This has nothing to do with politics for me. And I sure as sh!t am not conservative. Stop being so polarized and listen.

MD1756

"The protesters feel the Board of Education and FCPS have not done enough to facilitate bringing kids back to school safely." Are the parents willing to give up their income tax deductions/credits they get for having dependent children in order to pay the higher costs of hybrid learning and/or deep cleaning of the schools and upgrades the the HVAC system to reduce risks. If not, why not?

shiftless88

Two thumbs up. I am happy to pay a bit more taxes but they should go first.

HappySeller2014

Every crisis throughout history has brought wailing mommys and daddys into the streets, sreaming for their big boy and girl pants.

My recommendation? Pick yourself up by your bootstraps, soldier on, and be the parents you signed up to be. If that means raising and educating and loving your children a bunch more during troubling times, that is your job. A calm seas has never produced a skilled sailor.

Your kids want more socialization? Make it happen. You upset with kids' schooling or progress, get involved and pick up the slack. Be proactive, not reactive.

I have lived this way all my life. You wait around for others to take care of your kids you will be miserable. Trust me. Time for patents to buckle up and really help your kids during these troubling times. Complaining about FCPS is not answer. Look inward for answers.

HappySeller2014

That pic shows me all I need to know about how these parents feel about social distancing. And they want to open the public schools?

Where is Chase's mommy? First rule of protesting is to hold your sign up so others can read it.

The entire group should have just taken a field trip to Sugarloaf Mountain to enjoy the leaves changing color and nice fall weather.

Folks' rights end where mine begin. During this national health crisis, some folks just ain't figured that out yet. First and foremost, parenting is essential, with all that it entails. Be willing to put in the hard work of raising and educating your kids, or do not have children.

NewMarketParent

@HappySeller2014

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KellyAlzan

Hey happy, we hope you’re having a great fall!

Love,

The Alzan Family

HappySeller2014

Kelly, when we gonna meet up at Mission BBQ for some grub? [tongue]

MD1756

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huskycats

If school does start up, where are they going to get the bus drivers and cafeteria workers from? Also, since school would have started last month I assume the money was already in place for those workers for this school year. What happened to thast money?

MD1756

huskycats, you asked "where are they going to get cafeteria workers from?" It seems like that mother of four who works in the food-service industry could work in the cafeteria once her four children are back in school. I wonder if that family of six (two parents, four children) has done anything to reduce their carbon footprint?

Jazztoon

As soon as they decide to open, there will be the protest refusing to wear masks or to follow distancing because "my kid needs a hug" "masks suffocate my child." If everyone got serious about the health guidelines, then opening would be possible. As long as people want their cake and to eat it too, virtual is safe. That tantrum your kid is throwing during learning at home .... that was happening at school too - you just didn't care then because it fell on the teacher.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@Jazztoon

You are spot on Jazztoon in your comment. That is really what this protest is about, the tantrums and Ms. Steinberg is having a really big tantrum.

Just Wondering

You are right on!

Hayduke2

I love the kid holding the red sign upside down... [smile]

drewbuddy37

I guess that proved the virtual school isn’t working

bpswp

You people who want schools to re-open need to call your Senators to pass legislation to support state and then school budgets to support the safe opening of schools. It can happen but not without a lot of money to refurbish HVAC systems, install windows where there is none, individual air filters for each classroom that will filter the air 3/x per hour and with high level MERV filters, reduced class sizes, dividers between desks, re-purposing of common areas into smaller class sizes. There is an excellent article you can google on how to open schools safely by a professor at Harvard on how to open schools safely.

zane3

There were two large grants that were offered to the school systems to do just that.

https://news.maryland.gov/msde/maryland-state-department-of-education-announces-additional-covid-19-relief-grants-for-maryland-schools-and-universities/

https://news.maryland.gov/msde/maryland-state-department-of-education-provides-10-million-in-grant-funding-to-support-in-person-instruction-this-fall/

shiftless88

$10M for the entire state of MD; you think that will make a dent?

zane3

If you bothered to read the press releases, you would see it was $20 million and FCPS didn't apply for either.

shiftless88

$20M is for the future; the release was $10M. I read them both.

shiftless88

FCPS did not apply because it was limited to those who were going to open. I am guessing that you had to commit to open within a specific time frame to get the funds.

MD1756

When they call their representatives and senators they need to demand that the income tax deductions/credits they get for having dependent children are eliminated to pay for they extra costs. They certainly are not paying as much to educate their children as I pay because I have no children and therefore do not get any tax deductions/credits for demanding an expensive service that represents a high (if not majority) portion of the local governments budgets.

PurplePickles aka L&M

“We want to be able to make our own choices,” Steinberg said. BUT your choice doesn't just involve you it involves a lot of other people that also want to be to able make their own choice, If your choice only affected you and no one else then yes you should be free to make that choice.

Your choice in this circumstance doesn't just stop at your nose but can go on to make other people sick with Covid who didn't make that choice and worse yet your choice can cause someone to die that didn't choose to die.

shiftless88

Yes, it is easy to say that but harder to link that to reality. If all of the teachers stay at home then it won't matter what anyone else wants.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@shiftless

LOL yeah you can't force your choice on anyone else. In order for Ms. Steinberg to be able to make her choice she is asking that the teachers be forced to expose themselves to her choice ( which can be deadly and if not deadly can leave you with lifelong health problems), teachers also want to be able to make their own choices so this comes down to whose choices should we honor? I'm always going to honor the choices that doesn't put anyone in harms way. Her white privilege's are showing to even hold a protest over her choice.

Doesn't anyone think anything through anymore ?

jth7100

Direct your anger at the person that didn't lead the country in a correct response. Vote! COVID didn't disappear like a miracle. By the way, I am willing to wager a number of these parents voted for Trump and will again.

jth7100

Thanks Crab, that Facebook site is disturbing.

Treva B

Most of what I was going to write has already been written. All I'll write is "entitled people facing reality for the first time in their lives". Stay safe everyone.

bdr514

Agree

sevenstones1000

In non-Covid days, these people are also anti-vaxxers.

Trump told them to protest, so they are obeying.

chris

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bdr514

Agree

zane3

I do NOT support trump, nor am I an anti-vaxxer. I'm a parent that wants her kids back in school. It can be done, and it can be done safely. If you had a school age child you would be aware of the negative effect this has had on their mental health. These kids are struggling right now and it is possible to come up with a solution to open up safely. The BOE and FCPS has had since March to figure it out. If you have an opinion on this topic then please take the time to reach out and research how these children feel about what is happening. The CDC agrees - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

shiftless88

Kids have survived being in small groups and not attending school since the dawn of time, and continue this many places around the world right now. This is not the end of the world.

Just Wondering

So true!

NewMarketParent

@zane3

I honestly don't care enough about how these kids are feeling. It is our jobs as adults to keep them safe and I don't understand how that seems to be missing you. I would much rather spend money on psychological counseling than spend it on funerals for my neighbors and countrymen.

zane3

I'm not missing anything. I do want to keep my kids safe and yours too by the way...and everyone else. I stayed home when we were told to stay home. I still don't go to restaurants unless it's take out. I wear a mask whenever I'm around people outside of my family. I don't go to social gatherings. I do all of those things because I want to do my part to flatten the curve. So if we all did those things, it would be that much safer to send our kids back in some sort of hybrid scenario sooner. So it's ok for adults to go back to work, back to restaurants, stores, bars, etc? That's all worth the risk? But our kids are not? Do your research. Look at the facts.

MD1756

Zane3, home school them or put them in private school then. Additionally, are you willing to give up the income tax deductions/credits you get for having dependent children? If not, why not? I have to pay more in income taxes by the simple fact that I have no children and do not need the education system. I don't think people should be put at risk and at a higher cost in order to satisfy your preference.

zane3

I've already responded to the 'just send them to private school comment'. But I'll also add there is a wait list for most all schools in our area because parents are doing just that. As for taxes...that's kind of baked into the cake of living in a society that requires you to pay taxes. I have kids so I benefit from that deduction. If they change the law, then I'll pay, just like every other tax I'm required to pay. Have your taxes gone up for COVID related school expenses? Doubt it. The federal government has appropriated money through the CARES ACT for the very expenses you are referring to...as well as the grants provided by the state, if our school system had only been prepared to apply.

MD1756

zane3 that's rather disingenuous. You are demanding extra services so you should identify the source of revenue to pay for it first. Where do you think the federal government gets its money? A decent amount comes from income taxes and ceteris paribus, I pay more than you do so you're asking me to pay even more to satisfy your desire. My taxes haven't gone up because of COVID, just the national debt which has to be paid at some point in time so again you're being disingenuous since those of us who pay income taxes help pay the debt.

zane3

I'm well aware of how the federal government gets it's money and how it affects the national debt. When a citizen finds themselves in the path of a tornado or hurricane and requires assistance from the government, they should first identify the source of revenue? It's clear you don't know of anyone that is impacted by the decision to keep schools closed. Doesn't mean you are right. I'll refer back to the CDC report. Even if you are wary of the source, read it. Someone with common sense laid out why keeping schools closed it short-sighted and the wrong decision.

MD1756

Zane, I read far enough to see they didn't consider all of the correct factors, possibly intentionally, to seemingly skew the decision towards a desired outcome (just like they started to do in the Trump administration to reduce counting legitimate benefits of environmental regulation and that's without counting the socially correct benefits of being able to expect people not to contaminate air land and water they don't own). When it comes to how much I'm taxed and where they put that money, I am right in my values. You may disagree with my priorities but they are not wrong as my priorities are not asking others to pay for my actions. You chose to have children, fine. Right now you are paying less for the government services provided to your children than I am. When you start paying more than I'm paying, I'll grant that you have more say than I have. The government already spends too much on education (but not effectively or efficiently). And no I'm not asking to have my taxes reduced, but I believe there are other higher priorities (such as environmental protection which directly impacts everyone) that deserve more money. Finally, people who live in areas where one can reasonably expect a "natural" disaster should plan for that possibility (i.e., buy insurance) and not rely on the public to necessarily bail them out. A number of those states are regularly paying less revenue to the federal government than they get in benefits. Maybe they should be taxing their residents more to pay for events they know are going to happen but just can't predict the exact time. Same goes for people who have children. You know there are going to be emergencies show you better make sure you're prepared (financially and other resources). I say no to more debt or resources for schools. If you have an issue with online learning, higher a tutor with your own money or home school your children. I'm paying enough already to help you increase the adverse impact of climate change caused by a growing human population. Why don't you demand that your representatives and senators (at the state and federal level) vote to amend the tax structure to eliminate your income tax deductions/credits you get for your children and ask them to put that money towards public education?

NewMarketParent

We are living in the dumbest possible timeline.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

we are living in the movie Idiocracy so yes the dumbest possible timeline.

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

We really are... JFC. I am all out of GAF.

Frankle1

Yeah- it sucks. We're all making sacrifices, and it's hard for everyone. But come on... I'd rather my kid be frustrated with e-learning than getting sick, coming home, infecting the whole family, possibly sending someone to the hospital and/or having long term illness from COVID. No one is immune, and you may not die, but lots of people are having permanent organ damage and long term cognitive decline. Teach your kids to be resilient & roll with the punches. Life isn't easy. E-learning can be frustrating, but learning to overcome frustration will be a skill kids need FOREVER. Are you seriously going to give in to your child's "frustration" and risk giving them & your family life long physical health issues? A vaccine is on the horizon, I promise, you can do this for a few more months... Don't be selfish. This fall and winter will likely be the hardest of our lives, learn to deal with "frustration" now so it doesn't hurt so bad in the dead of winter...

bdr514

Exactly

gabrielshorn2013

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] Frankle1 There are also other options, such as neighborhood study groups (learning pods) that may be taken advantage of. Is there one in their neighborhood? If not, they can form one, with the parents agreeing, in writing, to follow the pre-established rules to prevent infection. This is working in many parts of the country, and here in MD.

Hayduke2

Well said Frankie...

zane3

The experts are now saying that it could be 2022 before a vaccine is available to young, healthy people. Should we wait until then to send them back to school?? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/10/15/who-vaccine-young-people/

NewMarketParent

@zane3

Yes!

Signed all rational humans.

trwz

If parents are not satisfied with the decisions of the BOE or the instruction that is being offered to their child they have the option to homeschool or enroll their child in a private school setting.

zane3

Do you have a school age kid? Unless you do, you can't possibly have any idea what they are going through. Let's add to their stress and throw them in a new school with new kids? My daughter is a senior in high school. How do you think she'd feel to be moved to a private school? And what about the famiies that can't afford a private education? Have some empathy. We aren't asking to just open schools with no precautions. The county has had since March to figure this out. People are back to work. Why are we locking our kids away at home?

duffy5x

Did you not have a television?

NewMarketParent

I have 2 young kids and it all sucks right now as we try to balance that and a home that was set up to be dual income. It is not fair and life is not fair. Also, we signed up to put on our big boy/girl pants when we decided to be parents.

You do your best and that is all you can do, but you are not guaranteed the right to your own personal body count.

HappySeller2014

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MD1756

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Just Wondering

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MD1756

I believe the Rolling Stones had it right with one of their songs "You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you'll find, you get what you need." I may not have wanted to move around a lot as a child (last move was August just before my senior year in high school), but I sucked it up and dealt with it. I had no other option.

HappySeller2014

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MD1756

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Just Wondering

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DickD

Certainly I am sympathetic, but if you think having your child back in school, causing many more cases of COVID, I have to respectfully disagree. Your crisis is the only thing that you are looking at. The Board of Education is looking at the bigger picture. I salute them for doing a great job.

Fredginrickey

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zane3

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

MD1756

In the past, I would have had respect for the CDC's recommendations but not the CDC under Trump. I worked for the US EPA (until Sept 2017), and what Trump was doing to the EPA, with his policies, was much worse than any other president. Unfortunately there are high level career managers who put pleasing political appointees above the interests of the public who paid our salaries. I've seen it at the EPA and can only believe that it happens at other Agencies/Departments/etc. Under Trump, they would no longer allow a proper cost benefit analysis for regulations in that you could not include benefits that were not directly related to the specific pollutant you were intending to control. For example, the proposal to control mercury had the benefit of reducing other air pollutants that have negative impacts on health and the environment, but the Agency could now only include the benefits of reducing mercury. They skewed the data their and I wouldn't be surprised if they are skewing data in the CDC because of Trump's policy pressures. Can you guarantee the CDC recommendations especially when at least in the summary they are silent on the impact infected children have on adults.

HappySeller2014

Agreed, DickD.

newspostreader

"On that same day, Steinberg has helped organize a “Sick [of the BOE] Day Logout” that encourages students of Frederick County Public Schools to not log in for their virtual classes on Oct. 20.

All students that participate in the logout event are being encouraged to send notes to their school’s attendance office that they are using one of their five allotted vacation days so it’s an excused absence and they can make up assignments." - I'm sorry but how does this help anything? You're complaining that your child isn't getting a proper education, but then you're just going to have them not attend a day of instruction, even though it's virtual. I shake my head. [smile]

zane3

Do you have a school age child? If you did, you would know what kind of instruction these kids are getting. The high schoolers logon at 8:30 for their first class, they are usually done in their zoom by 9:15. Then they have one more class like that. Then they are done for the day. Done before noon! These kids are not getting the instruction they would receive in an in-school setting because the teachers haven't been given the tools necessary to teach that way. Read this article. Listen to the experts. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

shiftless88

zane; then let's work to improve those tools rather than pack kids back into schools.

zane3

You're missing the point. That's just one of the many flaws with virtual schooling. And again, they had since March to figure that out and failed. Do you have a child in school? If not, then please don't pretend to know what you're talking about. Again, I'll refer you to a great article about all of the reasons they do need to be in school and the risk vs. reward for doing so. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

gabrielshorn2013

zane3, I feel for you, I really do. My kid graduated from MHS last year, and pretty much had to teach himself, even in all of his AP classes. It is the same way in college now, except it is rather hard to have chemistry lab at home, so he must go in. Times are tough everywhere due to the pandemic. I mentioned neighborhood "study pods" above as a way to help. Have you looked into forming one with other families in your neighborhood? If you got five families to participate, each family could take the kids for a day where they could learn as well as socialize. The parents MUST over everything, abide by written guidelines requiring that they avoid crowds, keep apart, wash their hands, and always wear a mask while in someone else's home. That will also give you and the other parents four days at home to get things done.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/22/parenting/school-pods-coronavirus.html

There are now companies that can tutor such groups:

https://www.varsitytutors.com/learning-pods

https://dc.madscience.org/inperson-workshops.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr9be0f227AIVD4zICh3PJwEsEAMYASAAEgL4J_D_BwE

shiftless88

Zane; yes, we have a kid in the house who seems to be doing well with virtual school. Thank you for your concern.

zane3

gabrielshorn2013 thanks for the information. both of my kids are in high school so it's difficult to find a friend with the exact same schedule but we do our best to help them socialize safely. FCPS just offered the PSAT this week...at school. The kids were amazing! They were all socially distancing and all seen wearing their masks (properly) while waiting to be picked up. It can happen...our kids ARE willing to do what needs to be done to make it happen safely. It's unfortunate that there are people making flippant comments about the situation and a woman that seems to be doing everything she can do to help her kids. It's easy to come on here and troll people. It's difficult to be a productive member of our community and help others, even when it doesn't affect you personally.

I appreciate your thoughtful comment.

Just Wondering

My child is a middle school student. Classes end at 12 but the actual school day ends at 3. Students are supposed to use that time in the afternoon to complete assignments. Teachers offer office hours in the afternoon to help students that are struggling. Does your child take advantage of this? School does not end at 12. Contrary to what many believe.

zane3

4 days a week, my high school kids get 2 hours max of teacher instructional time. Most days they are offline before that 2 hours is up. Yes, the rest of the time is to be used to complete assignments. If they are struggling (mine aren't) they can meet with their teacher. This is not comparable to in-school learning. Luckily, my kids are old enough to use that time wisely but it still doesn't make it comparable. I can't imagine having a younger child and expecting them to have the discipline to sit at home without some adult interaction/instruction. My husband and I work and can't just jump on our phones to answer questions and a majority of parents are in the same situation. Yes, I know that's not the problem or concern of people that don't have kids. Therefore, I'm not quite sure why they are all over the comments trolling and attacking the people that are trying to get through an unprecedented time.

Just Wondering

It's a crazy idea, isn't it?

EABiker

There is always that one in every crowd!

DickD

Yes, a lot of drama with little thought.

Greg F

It’s tough, I’m sure. I see it daily in my own homeschooler. That said it sure beats long term effects and possible death to the child or a family member. The predicted surge is already starting not just here but across the globe. The nation and world has gone through strife and folks have sacrificed before for the greater good. Staying safe to keep this virus down is one that should be kept going for now.

Dwasserba

I like this response because I too had "only" one at home but she was high energy from the getgo, and the very idea of having 5 at home at all times against their will with my husband a suvivor working way too much, nearly gives me an anxiety attack. We can be sympathetic to others in the sorry unprecedented circumstances we are in, even if we don't agree with the pov.

MD1756

I can be sympathetic but only up to a point. Maybe we give them a year off from education and let them go outside and clean up trash along the roads and streams and work on other environmental projects.

Fredginrickey

COVID cases are up, exploding in the Midwest where schools have opened, sheer stupidity and selfishness to open schools

Crab0721

Oh but according to them and and all of their scientific data schools are open everywhere fully in time and kids are doing doing great. You should see their Facebook page that they have created https://www.facebook.com/groups/1213153995730216/?ref=share.

rickleelittle

“We in the World Health Organization do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr. David Nabarro said to The Spectator’s Andrew Neil. “The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganize, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/who-official-urges-world-leaders-to-stop-using-lockdowns-as-primary-virus-control-method

Hayduke2

Hey ricklee, you support Trump and withdrawing and bashing the WHO and now you quote them? Do you see the irony?

rickleelittle

Follow the 'science'

Hayduke2

Can't have it both ways ricklee. Follow the science indeed. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/indicators.html#thresholds

NewMarketParent

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