Frederick County Public Schools will implement a hybrid model in the second semester for all grades, barring any spikes or upward trends in local health metrics related to the COVID-19 pandemic. The second semester begins Jan. 28.

The Frederick County Board of Education voted 6-0 Wednesday, with one abstention, to approve the plan.

The vote comes after months of parent protests, board member hesitation and failed votes on the reopening of schools.

The official motion that was voted on was put forth by board President Brad Young. It included a requirement that teachers and instructional staff report back to buildings on Jan. 13 and that all employees who were previously let go during the fall semester’s “Reduction in Force” resume employment on Jan. 1.

It also stated that “decisions to implement the hybrid model or small-group instruction will be determined by the superintendent in collaboration with the Frederick County Health Department based on a review of the metrics and guidances outlined by the Maryland Department of Health.”

Given the start of the second semester is still more than two months away, it is possible the start of the hybrid model could be delayed if the state or county sees a resurgence of the virus.

Before putting forth his motion, Young noted that numbers have been on the rise, but he added that he still supports approving the model.

“We could sit here today and say we’re turning [the plan] down because the numbers are going up, and they could change two weeks from now and be worse or they could be better ... we can’t call a meeting each day the metric numbers change,” he said.

Board member Rae Gallagher, who supported the motion, asked if there was a specific threshold or number that would halt the school system from starting the hybrid model or move them back to virtual once implemented.

FCPS Superintendent Terry Alban said there is not one threshold. Instead, the guidance that has been issued is based on a continuum, she said, and requires consultation from experts at the local health department, such as Dr. Barbara Brookmyer, with whom she has been having weekly meetings.

“Dr. Brookmyer felt very uncomfortable saying to us here’s the number. She wants to look at the continuum ... she wants to look at spread in the school,” Alban said. “She wants to be able to say to me... ‘Dr. Alban we have outbreaks in two schools, we need to really step back,' versus, 'Well, we’re sitting right there on the cusp but we don’t have any outbreaks.'”

The county’s current metrics, as of Wednesday, are close to the school system’s stated first threshold of 5 percent testing positivity rate. According to FCPS documents, if the testing positivity rate is above 5 percent, and there are more than 15 new cases per 100,000, in-person programming is expected to be limited or stopped.

The most recent Frederick County data reported the testing positivity rate as 4.7 percent and 16.84 cases per 100,000.

Despite supporting the motion, board Vice President Jay Mason expressed frustration at how residents of the community are not working to keep the virus at bay.

“As a community, we’re not doing what we need to do to be in a position to reopen schools ... we have to depend on everybody,” Mason said. “It’s not on the school system, it’s on the community, and if we can’t do that then we might not open this year. We're trending in the wrong direction.”

Concurrent teaching

During the board’s discussion on the issue, the topic of concurrent teaching was once again brought up. Concurrent teaching is the idea that teachers would teach in-person and virtual students at the same time for portions of the day. FCPS staff previously said planning time for teachers would be increased by 30 percent in order to help with the new requirement.

Board members still seemed concerned over how it would work and what sort of demands would be placed on teachers.

Kevin Cuppett, executive director of curriculum, instruction and innovation for FCPS, said there is no expectation that concurrent teaching will occur for whole learning blocks or periods. He added that staff is collecting data and insight from teachers who are currently doing concurrent teaching with small-group and virtual students.

This feedback will be presented next week to the Frederick County Teachers Association led-workgroup, which has been working on the reopening plans, he said.

Board member Liz Barrett, who called into the meeting due to contracting COVID-19 herself, said she would like to see more creativity on teacher allocation and structuring of the school day.

“I do believe that there are enough students and enough staff and teachers who can be matched for a continuously improved virtual model,” she said.

Since teachers will be required to report back to buildings on Jan. 13, there are ongoing discussions on how their time will be split between continuing virtual learning and setting up their classrooms and planning for the return of students, according to Michael Markoe, deputy superintendent.

He said the school system is developing disciplinary procedures and regulations for students and staff who refuse to follow health guidelines and restrictions.

According to Jamie Aliveto, executive director of system accountability and school administration for FCPS, the school system is also gathering information on how to publicly report COVID-19 cases among staff and students.

“We don’t want to move too fast; we want to make sure that we do it right ... but we are confident that we will be able to produce a dashboard. We do believe that transparency is very important,” she said.

Board member Lois Jarman chose to abstain from Wednesday’s vote.

She ran to retain her seat in this year’s Board of Education race, but will most likely lose to a newcomer based on where the vote count currently stands—although official calls on the race have not been made.

Before the vote, Jarman said she would not be voting on the issue because she felt it was imperative for the newly elected members to have their voices heard and be a part of the decision. The newly elected members will take their seats in December.

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(57) comments

yogib

What has the FCSB been smoking to come up with this statement at a time the Pandemic is gaining strength? We filled our cemetaries from the nursing homes and no you want us to continue the filling with our children. You are elected to protect and educate our children, not to worry about baby sitting them. show some courage.

PurplePickles aka L&M

I’d would like wish to Ms. Barrett well and a quick recovery from covid, with no long lasting effects.

nancypace

The new plan is kinda like The Little Red Schoolhouse of bygone days, where all grades mixed as necessary, and one teacher was overworked but many learned anyway--but the new plan adds computers, all-level appropriate free curricular software with leveled, amazing learning opportunities, outstanding mentors/teachers in abundance, and air-conditioning/heating too. And don't forget most of the world's knowledge available on the computer/internet. What's not to like? 😜😊👍

threecents

I get that it is impossible for the board to please everyone as far as when and how to open schools. What I don't get is there decision to resume sports just as the epidemic is getting worse and will continue to get worse and just before a vaccine becomes widely available.

NewMarketParent

@threecents

That's kind of the point in a way. If you are going to piss off people no matter what you do, then why not do what is right?

KellyAlzan

U of MD football team suspended activity cuz 8 players got the virus

nancypace

What's wrong with my (earlier-posted) idea? Please respond, FCPS and board, and parents and teachers? Does nobody want an inexpensive workable solution? Working parents with no other options--our essential workers and the poor--require an absolutely safe, educational space where their children can be guided on computers (and in spaces) reserved for them, using a tested, level-appropriate online curriculum. The more-privileged rest of parents, the ones with learn-at-home options, will probably choose to keep their children safely at home, also learning from globally-proven successful free Kahn Academy materials, or other purchased ones. All the other usual (and optional) learning activities that schools have taken on over the years must sadly be set aside during the pandemic--or if parents want them, can be otherwise arranged. How is my approach more expensive? If students and teachers cannot be provided with well-designed situations where they can safely teach and learn (well-separated spaces, computer learning with mentoring)--I guess working parents will be offered no safe options at all? It's nonsense to attempt a traditional school situation, and FCPS and the board know it. They must support a safe, feasible, and comparatively cheap NEW plan focused on continuing crucial learning during the pandemic, workable for parents, students AND teachers, so life and learning can go on. If nothing else, give every child who has none a computer, a tried-and-tested online curriculum, and strong online mentoring. So much cheaper and pandemic-safer than (politically-cautious) attempts/cancellations of traditional schooling options. (Check out the FCPS total budget if you can find it.) Until the pandemic passes, give parents, students and teachers the minimal options of safe spaces, computers, strong level-appropriate online curricula, and fantastic learning support/mentoring! Offering impossible "plans" and whole-scale postponements (always for understandable but specious reasons) is NOT a workable learning solution for our children, parents and teachers during what is likely to be a long, drawn out pandemic. And why does no one at FCPS and the school board respond to my simple suggestion?

shiftless88

Kahn academy themselves state that their videos are to supplement education, not to supplant it.

nancypace

Wonderful free global Kahn Academy (and other good--but costly--online programs) focus on traditional curricular basics at every level. Of course Kahn Academy doesn't want to compete with everyone in America who profits from our "traditional schooling as usual approaches)--wisely enough! But if schools offered only Kahn Academy programs for awhile--just during the pandemic-- I can assure you that all kids, k-12 would be learning at their current level, presented in clear, very interesting ways, the effective basic educational necessities (from pre-school phonics and counting numbers right up to organic chemistry and calculus--particularly if they are mentored and supported by good teachers. I'm not against all the other educational programs--all are very worthwhile!--but they shouldn't come before--or at the expense of--comprehensive learning programs appropriate matched to each child's academic starting-places, covering what they need to move forward and contribute and delight in the world.

nancypace

If all of you parents and students and teachers and administrators and other student-learning advocates do not loudly and insistently urge the above safe, affordable, workable plan upon FCPS leaders and the school board, nothing will happen, nothing will change. FCPS will go on making and cancelling unworkable, unsafe plans. Privileged students will continue to learn at home or elsewhere anyway, using all the many resources they have, while the broad majority of families will suffer and lose ground until ... when? For another two years? Another five years? This is a workable plan folks! Please weigh it for yourselves, and if it works for you and yours, or you think it will work for our county, will you please tell school leaders to evaluate it and respond? Thank you! 🤸🏼‍♂️❤️🌈

shiftless88

I did notice a comment on your comment below asking you about cost. Can you indicate the cost of your proposal?

nancypace

Dear Not-at-all-Shiftless88: The cost of my proposed approach, tentatively and off the top of my head: Hmmm. Maybe? Add up the cost of providing pandemic-refurbished classrooms in buildings/rooms appropriately selected around the county, with well-spaced, plexiglas-divided cubicles with tables and chairs and (no-porn) computers and exercise mats--one computer/cubicle each, for the whole semester, for all students who need one, at "school" or at home; add the cost of professional teachers to mentor/guide/support each student successfully, full time, at home and "at school;" add cleaning costs (limited if students clean their own cubicles); add the cost of bus transportation (maybe 10 maskedd students per bus, with slightly opened windows) to/from school; add the cost of aides to take students to/from buses to their well-separated cubicles (where students will remain all day except for exercising--standing or stretching using their own yoga mat as needed, plus escorted visits to restrooms and back, plus disciplinary action for those leaving their cubicles, throwing things, misbehaving (such students could return next semester, as required; add the cost of one selection of delivered-to-cublcle nutritious and delicious meals (some parents will prefer to provide their children's preferred prepared lunch sacks....); Add the costs of early and late snacks and drinks, also offered regularly at cubicles; add the cost of heating/cooling/maintaining the necessary building spaces; add the cost of additional curricular software if free Kahn Academy software is not adopted; add the administrative costs of leaders and planners responsible for persuasively presenting, advertising, and administering this new plan in its entirety. NOTE: then subtract the costs of as many traditional programs, teachers, planners, buildings, maintenance, transportation, etc. that are less necessary during the pandemic and to this particular plan, until the end of the pandemic, when once again a traditional school day-as-usual--or whatever widely-popular programs and approaches have worked best -- can once again be considered and reinstated as appropriate, one addditional program considered at a time. BTW, Shiftless88--I have NO DOUBT forgotten some major expenses here, someone at FCPS Admin can do that much better than I can. But there's no way, even with legacy buildings and expenses, that the new plan could possibly be anywhere near as expensive than the comprehensive (but pandemic-unworkable and doomed-to-failure and cancellation) as previous offerings. And Shiftless, If I think up some more multi-million-dollar costs overnight, I will let you know! Thank you so much for asking, and for helping all our deserving FCPS students (and taxpayers) in whatever ways you can. Kindest regards--Nancy ✌️

llrowse

You have no idea how much “just” the online curriculum will be, do you! Nobody at the Board responds because what you propose is preposterous

KellyAlzan

yesterday it was announced that harpers ferry elementary has 3 reported covid cases

HappySeller2014

This is the first time in forever I have seen the term "cowards" posted by so many different folks responding to a single FNP article.

But if the shoe fits, you know what you gotta do...

ValerieDale

So, on yesterday, the day 148,302 new cases of COVID were diagnosed in our country, and on which Hogan based on rising new cases issued stricter guidelines for restaurants and bars lowering their capacity from 75% to 50%, and on which our county had the 2nd highest number of new cases ever...the BOE voted to start the hybrid model in our schools on January 28.

I get the need to vote for a plan, but maybe we should let the metrics drive the decision when we are closer to the date we are considering opening to hybrid and vote to NOT open the schools at all until that point in time?

In addition, they also voted to start sports on December 7th - right after Thanksgiving and the spikes that will follow from that holiday, and just in time to spread it with each other, incubate the virus, and then spread it in family gatherings for the holidays.

What could possibly go wrong?

NewMarketParent

@ValerieDale

I think it already went wrong. The cowards decided that they were going to ignore their jobs of being responsible for our children. Every resultant death is on their hands. Leadership matters and this group ain't got it.

HappySeller2014

The term "cost benefit analysis" must be completely foreign and confusing to this FCPS School Board. I think everyone knows what "folding your cards" is at the poker table. The FCPS School Board just folded its cards before even looking at the first two cards they were delt. And, once you turn your cards into the dealer, you cannot get them back.

I win a lot of money at the tables in Charles Town playing against questionable folks like this. Some drunk. Some just plain dumb.

NewMarketParent

For a country that openly claims to not negotiate with terrorists. There are a lot of folks who seem to constantly negotiate with terrorists.

HappySeller2014

Off topic NMP. Stay focused. We are talking about FCPS here, not the Taliban or Al Quaida.

NewMarketParent

@HappySeller2014

My point is actually valid. This attempt to go hybrid is appeasement at best. We all know how that worked out for Neville Chamberlain.

While the reality of what is going to unfold will most likely prevent children from going back to school, what I am upset about is that these adults should know better and essentially caved.

As SuperChicken used to always say, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it"

We should all always strive to do right even when it is of no consequence. I am so very tired of watching supposedly good people doing the wrong thing when they know better.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

Yes the lack of common sense coming from supposedly "well educated adults" makes one wonder about the "well educated adults" in charge? So we are supposed to entrust these "well educated adults" with the care of our children? NOPE not even...especially after this, how can we trust they are making the best decisions for our children when they caved for the terrorists'?

Your point about negotiating with terrorists was sadly spot on because that is exactly what these "well educated adults" did.

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

Thanks for seeing my point. No one likes being threatened or being yelled at in public. You know what sucks more? Burying our fellow citizens and possibly their kids.

I completely realize there are no good options here. What I fail to see is how this decision was the best in a sea of bad options.

HappySeller2014

The other side is not terrorists. And I am on your side of the fence NMP and Pickles.

Everyone is allowed a voice. They can picket, or wave flags and placards, or complain and moan.

But then, it is up to the rational adults to take charge and lead. That is why I am so disappointed here in the FCPS School Board. We are not arguing with terrorists. We are just lacking leaders and leadership.

We are all Americans. We mostly want what is best for our kids. Some of us are smart. Some are naive. Some of us are plain dumb. Slinging namemongering gets us nowhere.

What we need is the adults in their elected capacity to make good decisions.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@Happysellers

Who died and made you HMF in charge of what commenters can or cannot say?

NewMarketParent

@HappySeller2014

I understand your point. These are not our enemies, but lives are at stake and I really need the BOE to understand that and they don't seem to. There is no amount of money that can replace a loved one. There are no do-overs and no take-backs. You either do your job and put people in a position to win or you have abdicated your responsibility and you deserve scorn and ridicule at the absolute least. Make no mistake about it, circumstances may prevent this decision from ever being realized, but that doesn't make it any less of a chicken$h17 decision.

Frankle1

I think we all know this is an exercise in futility. They need to do something to placate the parents who are protesting to open- so they craft a plan. But obviously the metrics are trending the wrong direction at the worst possible time (winter, holidays, everyone indoors, people not following mitigation, etc). I think it's safe to say these plans will not be implemented in January (barring sudden reversal of people's lax behavior and getting this under control...).

HappySeller2014

I respect leaders who stand up to challenges. To me, those are real men and women. And all elected folks should actually vote at council meetings. Why else do we elect them? To be ostrich heads in sandboxes?

HappySeller2014

Leaders do not placate. Leaders LEAD.

NewMarketParent

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Exactly! That means doing the right thing even if that goes against the crowd.

Criticism serves a roll. Good criticism is a feedback mechanism of the highest order. This move by FCPS serves no one and is dangerous to children and adults.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

Why are the leaders so afraid of following the common sense logical path of science that leads to us all surviving this horrible virus?

They know the correct path to follow, and yet they willingly followed the terrorists down the wrong path that leads directly to pain, suffering and death!

Makes no logical sense to me why well educated adults would follow terrorists that way? Maybe they aren’t such well educated adults after all!

Do they think that we are going to follow them willingly down the path of death?

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

My experience is that people seem to live for being re-elected. I get it that you can't be effective if you don't get the job, but there is a time to stand up and do the right thing even if it costs you your seat.

I can't imagine the pressure that is on the Dr. that they hung this on.

Imagine... the entire BOE put all of this onto a single Dr. to make the decision about whether kids/parents/educators/staff are put into harms way.

Even she was non-committal and left it as an audible since there isn't a good way to measure safe enough.

KellyAlzan

This is a deadly decision. Stupid fools.

TaraS

I support having a plan in place, but anyone who thinks it's actually going to be implemented in January isn't facing reality. It does seems like a weird exercise to do this type of thing in the current moment.

nancypace

During the pandemic, FCPS should offer two strong full-time options to parents: (1) a designated, well-designed safe space for learning--complete with computers, teacher mentors, food and transportation for all students whose parents require the traditional school function of--pardon the expression--babysitting, combined with proven learning opportunities; (2) a complete, comprehensive, well-designed and level-appropriate online (home or school) learning curricultum for every student--for instance, Kahn Academy's amazing and comprehensive K-12 curriculum, offered successfully free free free for over a decade.... FCPS teachers, freed from burdensome content-preparation requirements by such proven online curricula, would have time to act full-time as crucially necessary MENTORS, offering both full-time instruction in provided computer usage, and full-time support for such appropriate, proven-successful home-learning content. Successful teacher-guided mentoring will require the professional mastery our strong teachers have demonstrated, to guide and support their students in successful, uninterrupted learning--despite the pandemic.

llrowse

And where is the Board going to get the money to put this model in place? I’m sure the school you’ve described have deep pocket donors. Big difference.

HappySeller2014

Well, two currently on Board not gonna be re-elected once all 2020 election ballots counted.

Next election cycle we can just vote the rest out.

I smell rot somewhere. A 6-0 vote reeks of groupthink and giving into pressure. Vote counts do not dramatically shift like this in just one month.

I am not supposed to go anywhere, or have anyone over to my house, for Thanksgiving and Christmas. But sports teams can start up in early December??? And we jam school buses in January???

At a time like this, when we need leadership, we get the seven dwarfs, all marching in a line together. One will not even vote alongside the other six. Sad.

llrowse

Typically, I understand why and how FCPS makes a decision. This decision smacks of pressure from some faction. Scientists have concluded and warned US residents that this winter is going to be deadly. There are warnings to keep Thanksgiving to not more than 10 people because otherwise, it is likely to create a super spreader event. Using the known science, the decision to move to a hybrid model is creating an epic super spreader event. I hope for the sake of everyone that teachers rally together and refuse to return to the classroom.

NewMarketParent

I am working on something to help force the BOE do the right thing. I just wil say this. Every familial death due to COVID should be counted and tied directly to the BOE. They alone are responsible for this albatross and they are cowards to place the responsibility of this at the feet of a single Dr.

llrowse

Exactly

Mjeb123

[thumbup]

nancypace

The "interest group" "factions who are currently supporting the proposed unsafe and unworkable "traditional schools as usual" with all the usual perks for factional interest groups (except for the awful alternating half-day "plan" which will just expose everyone to Covid and expensively teach almost nothing)--include the following: 1) All interest groups who would prefer that schools conveniently just stay closed during the course of the pandemic (because that is what will happen under the current plan) (along with unnecessary Covid spreading, illness, longterm side effects, deaths, etc.) Who might these folk be? 2) All interest groups who benefit from "traditional," highly expensive schooling-as-usual who don't want anyone to find out that there are many other newer, cheaper, more effective ways to learn arising from new technologies--because they are afraid that even good, necessary options and changes will negatively impact them; (3) All those interest groups who are highly-vested in particular specialized programs (other than continuous progress in reading, writing, science, math and social studies--(including health). Why not this instead? Once FCPS has adopted and implemented safe, successful approaches offering the above "basics," surely they could move on to reinstating, one at a time, all the other extras. Oh NO! All the influential interests, the deep-pocketed, loud and influential (i.e., political) interest groups who have learned to effectively apply "no-change to my programs" pressure on elective and appointed offices over the years might not like it! I mean, how can anyone argue against art, music, sports, foreign languages, career fields, technology, scholarships, home ec, creativity, business, typing etc. etc. etc.? Without all pressure, FCPS's board and administration could phase in all that good stuff later, as afffordable and demanded--but only once a highly-effective academic program for all academic levels has been safely and successfully re-established. Alas, FCPS instead chooses to keep on offering highly disruptive "plans" utterly destined-to-fail--until Covid threats disappear (however and whenever that happens). Why to they cave to pressures? Because they get points for OKing absolutely everything and because they don't lose any points for cancelling everything all over again because "their hands are tied," and "the higher ups make those decisions." This wasteful cycle is grossly expensive to taxpayers, disruptive to parents, useless and harmful to students--i.e., truly tragic. Who loses? First and foremost, non-privileged middle class and poor children will lose exponentially; Second, their parents will lose, what? Everything? and; third, our beloved country, which needs educated citizens who have learned to vote wisely, work hard, and contribute to their families and one another. For all the rest--isn't it time that our wonderful Frederick schools lead the way--even during a pandemic!--to reinvent schooling not only during a pandemic but post-pandemic, even while themselves learning from the most beneficial changes that emerge during these hard times?

llrowse

You read a book, didn’t you?

jth7100

It is hard to believe this is real.

Greg F

Reckless stupidity at its finest. Recall the board!

NewMarketParent

@FCPS BOE

I hope you read this. You are all cowards. You can sit and try to spin this all you want. Leadership matters and when it was clutch, you caved like bad suit. Count your days until the next election cycle.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

You and I both know they read the comments!

Did you ever read Enders Game? If so who were your two favorite characters? They weren’t really in the movie.

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

I have read Enders Game. It's been so long ago that I can't remember all of the characters. That said, it is a shame that Orson Scott Card decided to show the world what a horrible person he is.

I watched the movie, but felt it was too different from the book to fully enjoy.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

I didn't like the movie at all but loved the book......the two most influential characters of the book were his brother and sister Peter and Valentine

On Earth, Peter Wiggin uses a global communication system to post political essays under the pseudonym "Locke", hoping to establish himself as a respected orator and then as a powerful politician. Valentine, despite not trusting Peter, agrees to publish alongside him as "Demosthenes". Their essays are soon taken seriously by the government. Though Graff is told their true identities, he recommends that it be kept a secret, because their writings are politically useful.

Orson Scott Card has some odd religious leanings (Mormon)that has no doubt influenced his thinking...into thinking the way he does. I read Enders Game and the book after it...but then I found I didn't care about Ender anymore, but his brother and sister have stuck with me.

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

You are right! I totally forgot about them. It was amazing what they did together. That was a nice little subplot about the two of them working in tandem.

I am also a fan of Asimov and Herbert. Dune is the bomb, but that's off topic.

jth7100

And the parents have spoken and the politicians have listened.

Greg F

The scientists and doctors have spoken and the people didn’t listen...they remained ignorant asses.

Cowell

[thumbup]

llrowse

👍

PurplePickles aka L&M

And we wonder why Covid-19 cases are out of control, well we need to look no further but I did notice they put it off until late January after the inauguration, guess if Biden orders a lock down, then FCPS can blame it on him? Well played cowards!

PurplePickles aka L&M

I meant to say “hybrid school” starts on the 28th after the inauguration, I read the article to fast, I’m just stunned at the stupidity of FCPS!

I feel bad for everyone that is being forced to participate or else?

HappySeller2014

COVID-19 cases increasing statewide, nationwide. Neighboring MD counties returning to all-virtual classrooms and cancelling sports. University of Maryland College System now going virtual. No widely-available vaccine until April 2021 under rosy scenario. Daily cases today in Frederick County eclipsing April highs. FCPS food service workers at numerous sites recently testing positive for COVID-19.

And FCPS decides this???

Welcome to the circus. This is gonna turn out to be a huge clusterf#!$ with the clowns and monkeys running in circles. Come January 2021 this pandemic is going to be a tsunami. Let's see how many teachers and pupils actually show up.

This reminds me of a baseball team wasting time discussing the relief and closer pitchers for a game only in the bottom of the 3rd inning. Ridiculous. You lose ballgames by not focusing on the here and now. Tomorrow will take care of itself.

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