Frederick County's 1-cent stormwater fee could end up costing tens of thousands of dollars in fines, state environmental officials recently warned.

A Maryland Department of the Environment review determined the county's fee would be "insufficient" to pay for the water cleanup efforts required by a state-enforced permit.

The fee of 1 cent per eligible property is estimated to raise $487 annually for county water programs.

"We believe that this level of funding will be insufficient to support the people, programs and projects that will be necessary for the county to meet its obligations under the Watershed Implementation Plan and the new MS4 permit that we expect to issue to your county next month," stated an Oct. 25 letter written by Robert Summers, the state's environmental secretary.

The county could get slapped with fines of up to $32,500 per day for each violation of its stormwater permit, which is in the process of being renewed, the letter continued.

However, Commissioner Paul Smith says the state is setting the county up for failure by establishing unachievable goals. A draft of the county's next stormwater permit, which regulates the county's drainage into state watersheds, would come with a price tag of $112 million over five years, according to county staff. This cost would break down to about $524 per eligible property taxpayer each year.

"That's way in excess of what is right," Smith said.

Samantha Kappalman, an MDE spokeswoman, said counties, not the state or federal government, design local water quality plans. Environmental officials are open to collaborate with local leaders on affordable ways counties can comply with their stormwater permits, she added.

"We're willing to give flexibility on how this is accomplished," she said.

Because the county's plan for complying with the permit hasn't been finalized, she said MDE can't confirm that the $112 million cost figure is accurate.

But Smith also argues that the task of cleaning up the Chesapeake Bay watershed isn't getting divided up equitably between the state's counties. The state Legislature in 2012 passed a bill requiring 10 jurisdictions, including Frederick County, to set up a stormwater fee to pay for water quality programs. Though many counties created sizable new fees, Frederick County's commissioners earlier this year decided to levy a 1-cent charge, staying in technical compliance with the law while sidestepping its intent.

Smith said it's not fair to require 10 jurisdictions to charge a new fee while letting 14 counties off the hook.

However, Kappalman noted that water quality targets will eventually appear in all stormwater permits across the state; the largest counties are simply undergoing their re-permitting process first.

Frederick County staff also say the letter from Summers fails to acknowledge that the county doesn't lean on its 1-cent fee to fund stormwater programs. This year's county budget devotes about $3.5 million from the general fund toward water quality initiatives. But the county's forthcoming stormwater permit could force annual spending of roughly $22 million each year, more than six times the current expenditure, said Shannon Moore, the county's manager of sustainability and environmental resources.

That type of increase is not realistic, Moore said.

County officials are negotiating with the state over the permit's requirements and hope to strike some kind of compromise before the document is finalized, she said.

"It's not that we're trying to shirk our efforts," Moore said. "We just want to make sure it's achievable."

Both Moore and Kappalman noted that Frederick County staff and MDE officials met in late October to discuss the permit renewal. Kappalman said MDE is working with counties across the state to ensure that stormwater fees are equitable. The letter from Summers asks county officials to show how they plan to fund the work required by their stormwater permit.

Smith said he would support taking the state to court if stormwater cleanup requirements prove unreasonably expensive.

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(72) comments

Crustybachelor

If you REALLY want to know what Blaine and his fellow Bozos are thumbing their nose at, and making us look a county of morons - then watch this. It's worth a half hour of your time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qnRDefVXvE

ModeratePerspective

Because the Chesapeake was disproportionately poisoned by local farmers and rural homeowners septic fields they should bear the majority of the cost restoring the Bay not me.

NASCARLOVER

#48

steven09

We like to call the Weinberg Center the jewel of Frederick. Well, the Chesapeake Bay is the jewel of Maryland. And, after years of neglect, the Chesapeake is hurting. There is some hope. The last few years have seen some hard won improvement, often at the expense of legal battles that were fought to uphold laws that have been passed. The Monocacy River is the single dirtiest tributary to the Potomac, which is the second largest tributary to the Bay. I understand that Frederick County has a long, proud agricultural history, but that is more reason that Frederick County should understand the plight of the Bay, the watermen and other Maryland residents downstream. The recent local trend is to forget that, to be shortsighted and focus what is cheapest for Frederick County. The above story is one example. Another is the recent rollback of the stream buffer. I sure hope this trend reverses itself. It would benefit all Marylanders. Anyone out there like crab feasts? Oysters? Rockfish? When John Smith first sailed into the Bay there were crabs as big as footballs, oyster beds so high they looked like shoals and sturgeon, pilot whales, porpoises and seals were plentiful. We'll never get back to that, but we can still work to properly manage Maryland's jewel, and try to leave a meaningful Bay to our children.

ModeratePerspective

Why should I have to pay for my portion of polluting the Chesapeake and why should I be forced to purchase ObamaCare instead of showing up uninsured to the ER?

watson4sherlock

All Frederick County has to do is create some do nothing positions to address the storm water drainage and say their doing something. There are four outgoing commissioners who would jump at the chance for a taxpayer funded do nothing position. I guess that hasn't occurred to them yet. After all they've asked for the waiting period to be reduced so elected officials can get county positions sooner.

3. Modification of the State Ethics Law
The BOCC believes that current broad post-employment restriction is unjust and unwarranted. The Board is requesting that the State Ethics Law be amended to accomplish the following objectives:
1. Limit the post-employment restriction for former County Commissioners to two years after the Commissioner leaves office.

See http://frederickcountymd.gov/documents/13/556/2013%20Synopsis_201212071101224398.pdf

dbjanda1

By paying even one penny the BoCC acknowledged the rain tax as law...If they didn't truly believe in the tax they should have NOT paid anything to begin with...Now they have no recourse but to say 'oops, what does Maryland want now ???'....Me

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fredneckforever

So is Fredneck County!! TRUTH!!![beam]

soule1061

Apparently the State of MD wants FredCo to buy a Storm Water Permit of indeterminate price that would allow it to flow storm water into creeks feeding the Chesapeake Bay. The State does nothing to clean this water, so it's just another socialist money grab. Why should we pay it, especially since more than half of the County puts nothing into the Bay?

watson4sherlock

The state wants Frederick County to make an effort to clean the storm water runoff by directing it to the ground so it soaks in and filtered by the soil instead of letting run off into the storm sewers and directly into the Chesapeake Bay. The county is suppose to use the money to educate the population to reduce the runoff.

Any precipitation in an urban or suburban area that does not evaporate or soak into the ground, but instead pools and travels downhill, is considered stormwater. Stormwater is also referred to as urban stormwater, runoff and polluted runoff. Increased development across the Bay watershed has made stormwater runoff the fastest growing source of pollution to the Bay and its rivers.

See http://www.chesapeakebay.net/issues/issue/stormwater_runoff

Marylandgirl22

Then why did Frederick County just decide to relax teh stream buffer requirements? Shouldn't the state be after Frederick for that? Instead Frederick County Politicans relax the strem requirements and then tax everyone else for the agriculture's problem. http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/environment/article_9a169505-00c1-5ebe-a924-719375f9d4fa.html

watson4sherlock

It appears that Frederick County already had the wides stream buffer of any other county In Maryland. So the change doesn't violate state law.

See http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/Water/WetlandsandWaterways/
Regulations/Pages/Programs/WaterPrograms/Wetlands_Waterways/
regulations/lawsandprograms.aspx

watson4sherlock

NATURAL RESOURCES
TITLE 8. WATERS
SUBTITLE 18. CHESAPEAKE AND ATLANTIC COASTAL BAYS CRITICAL AREA PROTECTION PROGRAM


Md. NATURAL RESOURCES Code Ann. § 8-1808.10 (2013)

§ 8-1808.10. Minimum buffer.


(a) Scope. -- This section applies to an application for subdivision or site plan approval within the resource conservation area that:

(1) Receives final local approval on or after July 1, 2008, unless an application for subdivision or site plan approval is submitted before July 1, 2008 and legally recorded by July 1, 2010; and

(2) Does not involve the use of growth allocation.

(b) In general. --

(1) Except as provided under subsection (c) of this section, the minimum buffer shall be:

(i) 200 feet from tidal waters or a tidal wetland; and

(ii) 100 feet from a tributary stream.

watson4sherlock

Stormwater is regulated by law. Montgomery County is regulated by, and operates under, a State of Maryland-issued National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit (MS4 permit), which prohibits polluted discharges or illicit flows into the storm drain system. DEP's code enforcement staff investigates all stormwater violations (that are reported in a timely manner).

See http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/dectmpl.asp?url=/Content/dep/water/stormwater.asp

Crustybachelor

It'll all get fixed when Blane and his WFMD clown car crew are voted out of office.

elymus43

Lt Gov. Brown will probably be elected Governor?????

ModeratePerspective

I support Tea baggers collaborating with corporations that pollute Gods Dominion and bring good things to life while always keeping prices low.

puddintane245

Good point GOV

watson4sherlock

I really don't think the governor has that kind of time to micromanage the budget; he has his people in different departments doing that and they don't pass notes. It's very unlikely the right hand knows what the left hand is doing.

dbjanda1

The state probably wouldn't have noticed the rain tax rate until Blaine tried to ram that $200K check down their throats...So far the BoCC is 2 for 2...Do they plan on going 3 for 3 ???...Of course, they're smarter than anyone else in the state...Me

elymus43

The average low educated and low IQ voter only his needs a 6 pack of beer, TV for sports and Nascar, and a couple of video movies and he is happy. Tuesday's election in Frederick City is very important to stop this "runaway growth". People are led to believe that " YOU HAVE TO HAVE GROWTH" I think that is a myth. Candidates are talking about INFRASTRUCTURE, this looks they want to start developing all or some of the land annexed into the City already.

jerseygrl42

Hold on to your wallets , here comes mr tax and waste omalley once again ...70 + tax and "fee" increases during his term but now we need to tax the rain as though those of us with the temerity to live in Frederick have some control of that process....this guy and his minions do not have a clue and don't give a damned about the taxpaying citizens or the Bay...they are a sick joke perpetrated on this state , omalley takes a hundred grand from Covanta , (operator of Dickerson garbage burner) and suddenly declares that burning garbage and tires and dumping the resultant toxic wastewater into the Bay is Tier One Green'...but if it rains in Frederick we have to pony up the cash for the resultant runoff into the Bay...kinda like the alcohol tax increase on Frederick drinkers a couple of years ago that took 50% more taxes from us and gave it to PG and Balt...what a bunch of phonies! Now omalley is placed on a committee to look at how highway "Trust " fund money is spent......we know how he spent it here in MD ...on other than what it is collected for so now we pay a sales tax on the gas tax.....LOSER!

Arcticdc5

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watson4sherlock

Maybe a stylish thinking cap would help.

backroomfrederick

Not that I have much faith in the MDE after watching the incinerator proceedings, O'malleys $100,000 campaign contribution from Covanta and slow reactions to exisiting major sources of pollution but the reduction of buffer lands by the BoCC only exasperates the problem. Ask to be taxed and you will. Thumb your nose and residents pay.

I'd be more incensed about the 2-3 fold jump in real estate taxes the past 10 years to foot the bill for developer infrastructure and BSoCC games.

digdugmd

Let's spend the money collected from the one cent tax on a giant middle finger that we can put on top of the Carroll Strret water tower pointed toward Annapolis.

adtwiggiv

All those opposed to Frederick County paying its fair share to protect our waterways and the Chesapeake Bay please feel free to leave. Paul Smith is unusually ignorant for someone who managed to get through law school. If local officials would work with state officials on this issue instead of burying their heads in the sand we would all be better off. When the state starts fining the county who do you think pays? You do. You can thank Paul Smith and the rest of the, do nothing but develop, board of commissioners for higher property taxes in the future because they refused to address the issue in a forthright manner.

kjswartz

I'm all for filing suit against this BoCC to recoup any penalty issued by the state. I believe that would be the proper remedy for gross incompetence and colossal neglect.

Since David Gray has been the sole voice of reason, it would be hard to find any jury willing to penalize him.

watson4sherlock

A recall election can't be that difficult. It starts with a petition.

watson4sherlock

I've looked for it in the Maryland code where is it?

watson4sherlock

Article 1. That all Government of right originates from the People, is founded in compact only, and instituted solely for the good of the whole; and they have, at all times, the inalienable right to alter, reform or abolish their Form of Government in such manner as they may deem expedient.

See http://msa.maryland.gov/msa/mdmanual/43const/html/00dec.html

logletters162

They want to tax the rain running off my property yet the DHH of the Peoples Socialist Republic Of Maryland has a $38 million surplus they tried to hide in 2010 and 2011? When the former CFO for the DHH spoke up she was fired after being commended for the discovery. Our great state leaders fought casinos when it was recommended by a republicain governor yet as soon as MOM was elected they went as far as approving it along with table games, using "education" as a smokescreen to steal the money. Let's not forget about the billions raised by the lottery used to subsidize 2 NFL teams and a MLB team. This state might as well just roll over and die cause they're killing the middle class and that is what keeps it afloat. I'm done, as soon as I can afford it I'm leaving this cespool! However I commend the Frederick Co BCC for standing their ground against the attack on the middle class!

watson4sherlock

Wow $38 million surplus? What is that less than 1% of the entire state budget?

We are proposing $373 million for school construction to replace temporary learning shacks with modern classrooms, while supporting 11,650 jobs.

See http://dbm.maryland.gov/agencies/operbudget/Documents/2013/FY2013
BudgetHighlights.pdf

kjswartz

It is disturbing that you are considering moving away from this state in hopes to find a better environment more suited to your needs. That is why we have 50 states and two handfuls of territories. Each has it's charm, every one has it's shortcomings. Is it better to be sold on something that may not meet your expectations, or stay and try to change people's understanding of your plight.

Please stay! I may not agree with you, but changing my mind on a small point is a grand achievement.

What will this fee on storm water runoff to The Bay buy us? Does it improve a single parking lot? Does it capture the toxic chemicals poising the marine life and the food we harvest from these waters? Will it bring those people & companies willfully and intentionally throwing waste water into the storm drains instead of paying the same disposal costs the rest of us responsibly pays?

You brought up an excellent point. Just what does this new tax pay for?

watson4sherlock

I don't think reverse psychology is the best approach in this situation. It will only serve to confuse the commenter further.

backroomfrederick

"However I commend the Frederick Co BCC for standing their ground against the attack on the middle class!"

Considering the BoCC ties with developers and developers ties with massive amounts of subcontracted cheap unregulated labor, I see your point.

beechlover

Just another reason to leave Maryland..bunch of bloodsuckers, they will take every dime you have!

Arcticdc5

Welcome to the new socialist county [thumbdown]

Golfer

The People's Republic of Maryland.

hsduofmd

might as well start dumping oil down the drain, at least then I will think the money is being used for the right thing and not welfare

watson4sherlock

Why do you believe investing in the welfare of the waterways is a bad investment? How much do you think it costs to clean up the oil you dump down the storm drain?

As little as one quart of oil can contaminate 2 million gallons of water. So don't dump used oil or any other vehicle fluid into the County's storm drain system, which goes directly into the drinking water supply (local rivers).

Pouring used auto fluids like antifreeze and brake fluid into a storm drain or driving a car on top of a drain and letting fluids flow into the drain not only pollutes waterways—it's illegal. Violators will be prosecuted and fined up to $500 per incident.

See http://www6.montgomerycountymd.gov/dectmpl.asp?url=/Content/dep/community/waterpollution.asp

watson4sherlock

Or is it the "welfare" that is paid to the children, the disabled, and the elderly you object to.

digdugmd

I object to the welfare that is paid to the lazy, the fake diabled and the people who didn't pepare for their own retirement.

watson4sherlock

How do you fake being disabled? The law defines the parameters for disability including kidney failure, the symptoms of which may not be obvious because someone is having dialysis three times a week.

Everyone who received a paycheck paid into social security. Every year social security sent a statement telling how much was going to be paid because you became disabled or retired. Seems like a plan to me.

digdugmd

I know of more than one person who has convinced the gov. of his/her inability to work becuase of horrible back problems yet she spends much of her time riding her horse and carrying bales of hay and bags of horse feed and he regularly enjoys fishing the rough waters of the Potomac in a flat bottom john boat. And... anyone who believes they will be able to live with any dignity on Social Security is sadly mistaken. Anyone who intends to retire someday and not have to live in poverty better be saving now.

watson4sherlock

Minimum wage earners are just getting by on what they have, poverty is their way of life. They are unable to save.

So out of the multitudes you personally know two should the rest be punished?

Arcticdc5

NPR actually has a great article focusing on the "new welfare". Its all about disability and milking the system for what its worth. Sort of like the people that vote for a living.

watson4sherlock

You must have missed the point entirely. In Maryland TCA is only about $200 per person so a mother and a child only gets $400 per month. You should try it yourself since it is so great.

I asked Brandy Alvarez, a single mother with two kids who lives in North Providence, R.I., what she thought of Tanner's analysis. "I'm wondering where the rest of my money is," she says, laughing. She says she didn't receive housing assistance or several of the other benefits included in that $39,000 figure. In Rhode Island, only 1 in 4 families on welfare receives housing assistance. People wait years for public or subsidized housing.

And if you do get a job, benefits don't all disappear. When Alvarez was offered a $12-an-hour job with a nonprofit, she knew she'd lose her monthly welfare check and her food stamps would be reduced. But she got to keep Medicaid. She says that, in the end, it was worth taking the job, even though she's just breaking even.

See http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/10/10/229126568/is-welfare-a-rational-alternative-to-work

watson4sherlock

Many people with disabilities want to work but employers don't want to make accommodations for people with disabilities when they can hire someone without a disability or an illegal alien. If you're poor you can't afford to hire a lawyer to prevent employment discrimination. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission complaints take more than two years if anything ever comes of them.

johnqFrederick

over 82000 md citizens and illegal aliens have signed up for Medicaid through the new ACA law -- someone has to pay for it -- sounds more like the rain tax is used to keep the flood of debt from raining down on the people, program, and projects.

Question: are the MDE really that stupid? Seriously, they believe that somehow they can calculate a fair rain tax based on . . . . new math?

watson4sherlock

You have got to be joking; the website doesn't even work. Who's spreading this pack of lies.

In its first full month of operation, the website for Maryland’s state-based health insurance exchange under Obamacare has attracted more than 350,000 unique visitors, but only 4,500 — just over 1 percent — have enrolled...

More than 46,000 Maryland households have created accounts with verified identities, and more than 31,000 have learned whether they qualify for financial assistance.

See http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/nov/1/maryland-4500-sign-exchange-october/

digdugmd

Everyone who is currently enroled in the Maryland State PAC (Primary Adult Care) program has been automaticly enroled in Maryland Medicaide as the PAC program did not meet Obamacare requirements. This will probably cost the state billions. https://mmcp.dhmh.maryland.gov/mpac/SitePages/Home.aspx

watson4sherlock

The state was paying the price of their PAC coverage so it's a few dollars more for Medicaid. Maryland only has 5 million people and only a few of them are on PAC. How can it cost billions?

PAC will not cover the emergency physician bill or any other bills for hospital stays. PAC does not pay for any specialists.

digdugmd

PAC covered almost nothing... Medicade covers almost everything. The costs to the state will be more. According to the CBO, states will be forced to spend
another $60 billion on Medicaid through 2021, while another tally estimates the costs to state
could reach at least $118 billion through 2023. That's an average of 1.2 to 2.4 Billion per state. .http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?a=Files.Serve&File_id=4d81849a-33fa-40c0-a995-e7f17b1d8a47

watson4sherlock

Averaging doesn't really work in this case. Maryland has 5 million of the 315 million people in the US. Maryland also has a higher percentage of federal employees who already have healthcare benefits.

Medicaid might pay for more things but few providers accept it because the reimbursement is low. Medicare is starting to go that way too and providers are dropping Medicare patients.

There are also new revenue sources like the $1 million FMH is trying to not pay.

On net, CBO and JCT’s latest comprehensive estimate is that the
effects of the two laws on direct spending and revenues related to health care will reduce federal deficits by $210 billion over the 2012–2021 period...

See http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/121xx/
doc12119/03-30-healthcarelegislation.pdf

watson4sherlock

Currently, 60-percent of Medicare-Medicaid enrollees, “dual eligibles,” have multiple chronic conditions and 43-percent have at least one mental or cognitive impairment. While only 15-percent of Medicaid enrollees are also Medicare beneficiaries, Medicare-Medicaid enrollees represented 39-percent of Medicaid spending in 2007. Medicaid spent about $120 billion on this group – about twice as much as Medicaid spent on the 29 million children it covered. The Medicaid spending per Medicare-Medicaid enrollee was $15,459 in 2007, over six times higher than the comparable cost of a non-disabled adult Medicaid-only enrollee ($2,541).

See http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2011pres/05/20110511a.html

watson4sherlock

Under current law, states have the flexibility to make programmatic and other budgetary changes to Medicaid and CHIP. CBO estimates that state spending on Medicaid and CHIP in the 2012-2022 period would increase by about $73 billion as a result of the coverage provisions.

See http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/03-13-Coverage%20Estimates.pdf


The FY 2013 allowance for Medicaid services is $7 billion,
a 3.6% increase over FY 2012.

See http://dbm.maryland.gov/agencies/operbudget/documents/2013/
fy2013budgethighlights.pdf

watson4sherlock

Under current law, states have the flexibility to make programmatic and other budgetary changes to Medicaid and CHIP. CBO estimates that state spending on Medicaid and CHIP in the 2012-2022 period would increase by about $73 billion as a result of the coverage provisions.

See http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/attachments/03-13-Coverage%20Estimates.pdf


The FY 2013 allowance for Medicaid services is $7 billion,
a 3.6% increase over FY 2012.

See http://dbm.maryland.gov/agencies/operbudget/documents/2013/
fy2013budgethighlights.pdf

watson4sherlock

In a state with a population of 5 million you don't think there are 82,000 senior citizens who are not illegal aliens and qualify for Medicaid?

Leading up to the opening of the exchange on Oct. 1, there were 87,000 Marylanders who were on track to obtain health coverage in 2014. That number has not been updated through October.

More than 82,000 senior citizens in Maryland have signed up to be automatically enrolled in Medicaid coverage at the beginning of the year, another program affected by Obamacare changes.

See http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/nov/1/maryland-4500-sign-exchange-october/

korystorms

Keep raising taxes and the working people (whats left) will continue to leave!

cbarj1969

Maryland is a high-taxed welfare state where the government holds on to power by enslaving the masses by making them dependent on entitlements. The only thing that has kept Maryland from collapsing is the large federal and contracting salaries that are taxed by the filth in the state government. Very soon when the money goes away is when the real fun begins. I feel blessed to have a job that allows me to move to another state when it gets to that point.

watson4sherlock

Alabama wants you!

Top income tax rate: 5%
Sales tax: 4%
Property tax per capita: $539

See http://www.bloomberg.com/money-gallery/2013-04-19/most-least-taxing-states-2013.html#slide2

watson4sherlock

Not Maryland.

Top income tax rate: 5.75%

Sales tax: 6%

Property tax per capita: $1,467

Inheritance tax: Spouse, lineal-descendant, lineal-descendant spouse and sibling transfer is tax-free; all other transfers are taxed at 10 percent.

Estate tax: 0.8% to 16% with $1 million exemption

See http://www.bloomberg.com/money-gallery/2013-04-19/most-least-taxing-states-2013.html#slide21

watson4sherlock

Not New Jersey

Top income tax rate: 8.97%

Sales tax: 7%

Property tax per capita: $2,819

Inheritance tax: Transfer to a spouse, domestic partner, lineal descendant or charitable organization is tax-free; transfer to children-in-law is taxed at 11 percent to 16 percent; all other transfers are taxed at 15 percent to 16 percent.

Estate tax: 0.8% to 16% with a $675,000

See http://www.bloomberg.com/money-gallery/2013-04-19/most-least-taxing-states-2013.html#slide31

watson4sherlock

Maybe a different county in Maryland would be better.

FREDERICK...........Real Property Tax 1.064.....Utility Tax 2.34
MONTGOMERY.....Real Property Tax 0.759.....Utility Tax 1.898

Wait a minute how can that be? Montgomery County is charging a "rain" tax.

See http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/taxrate.html

cbabbsport

Next will be the breath tax....this state's, "management?", team is made up of nothing but a bunch of tax and spend left wing brown shirts. Stand your ground Frederick while you can, before the gerrymandered vote kick in the next election cycle.

kjswartz

I believe there's a tax if you STOP breathing, so I would exercise those lungs as much as you can. Breathing is free!

watson4sherlock

That's not a tax. The doctor wants to be paid for declaring you dead and the funeral home director wants to be paid for hauling away your carcass. You can skip the cost of burial if you opt for cremation. For $3000 you can have your ashes shot into space.

See http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/spacex-launch-falcon-rocket-carries-cremated-ashes-james/story?id=16398839

Quisling

The SA (brown shirts) were right wing, they hated communists. They were street fighting goons that help Hitler and the National Socialists get into power. The National Socialists or Nazis were a right wing political party. They hated communism with a passion, they murdered communists by the thousands.

Stalin was a communist. Perhaps you could use him as an illuminating example in future rants.

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