Mayor Michael O’Connor announced plans Monday to stop using a city of Frederick logo that was recently unveiled as part of the city’s branding program.

Since its unveiling, the logo has been subject to scrutiny among both officials and residents in the area.

“Based on the feedback we received, we are not going to use the logo component of our branding process,” O’Connor said at a press conference Monday morning. “We are taking it out of circulation and we are moving as fast as we can to pull back.”

The branding campaign was conceived by the Jacksonville, Florida-based branding and marketing firm North Star, which was paid $45,000 for its efforts to help bring change to Frederick’s aesthetics. At the press conference Monday, O’Connor expressed regret for the way the branding process has been handled thus far.

“This was certainly not the goal we had when this started out,” he said. “It’s important to talk about what we can still achieve with this branding initiative.”

O’Connor said a new logo would not be in the works.

“We’re not going to have a new logo for the city of Frederick because we don’t need a new logo for the city of Frederick,” he said.

Rather than relaunch the search for a logo, O’Connor explained that the city of Frederick seal will be recognized as the “defining visual identity” of the city moving forward. Until now, he argued, the seal was not viewed as such and he believes that the confusion was an element of the disconnect that created the outcry against the new logo.

“Our intention was never to get rid of the city seal,” he said. “I think we could have done a better job using the city seal, and I think we know that now as the visual cue for the things we do. Our challenge as this process moves forward is, how do we take what we already have and build off it? Not replace it, but to build on it and really have it be the key visual identifier for the city of Frederick.”

More than a handful of residents turned out to City Hall on Monday morning to attend the briefing, as about half the boardroom’s seats were filled. Some asked questions, while others voiced their support for the mayor’s decision.

One, Peter Samuel, said he hoped the mayor and Board of Aldermen would now turn their attention to more pressing matters.

“I think he made the right decision,” Samuel said, adding that he also believes O’Connor was sincere about his comments focusing on the value of public engagement. “I can see a case for getting a new logo, but I also don’t think a logo is very urgent right now, and it shouldn’t be a priority. At this point, it would be politically unwise for the mayor to push on with a new logo process.”

O’Connor reminded those in attendance that he never thought the backlash would be as intense as it was. The work by North Star continues to be valuable to the city, he reiterated, as it looks forward with its rebranding efforts, which include the mantra “Join the story.”

Outside of the logo and the catchphrase, however, the question of tangible results from the $45,000 paid to North Star remained up for discussion as the mayor explained other effects the branding effort will have on the city.

“I think the tangible things that we will see will come out of the development of consistent letterhead, for example,” O’Connor said. “We want consistency. ... In rolling back the new logo, we have to take a look at how we develop the templates and look at the departments and all those kinds of things. North Star, as part of the work they did, provided us with a lot of that groundwork, which in and of itself is an extraordinary task.”

Debra Brewer, who was part of one of the early focus groups aimed at weighing in on what the logo should look like, said she believes the blame for the misstep should not fall on the mayor, but rather on North Star.

“I’m a little disappointed no one spoke up in his defense,” Brewer said, referring to O’Connor. “I think he was very gracious in his comments and I think North Star were really the ones who failed us.”

Ginny Walthour, senior account director for North Star, argued that the debate regarding the logo comes down to taste.

“Creative ideas attract opinions — this is their strength,” Walthour said late Monday afternoon. “After much listening and immersion, we achieved alignment with city leaders on objectives, character, preferences and future opportunities for the narrative of Frederick. We stand by the integrity of our work, which has helped more than 200 communities across the country best tell their story and become more competitive.”

As for what happens next, Alderman Roger Wilson said after the briefing that while he felt the next steps concerning the branding process were a little unclear, he hopes the city can move on from this to address other issues in Frederick.

“I appreciate that the mayor is not moving forward with the logo,” Wilson said. “But now I would like to refocus on priorities like housing policies and sidewalks and other things that need to be addressed.”

Alderman Ben MacShane said the logo process as a whole indicated the city did not have its priorities in line.

“The most important decision that needed to be made was to discontinue the logo, so in that sense, the most important box was checked,” Alderman Ben MacShane added. “I believe that some of the frustrations with the logo and branding process boiled over so significantly because the process and the expenditure was simply an example of poor prioritization. I believe that the city needs to continue to make significant progress on other important issues in order to fully overcome that dissatisfaction.”

The mayor, meanwhile, was committed to contrition in his response to the circumstances.

“Clearly this process has not gone well, and I apologize for that,” he said. “I wanted to believe that the things we were trying to accomplish could be done the way it was laid out, and obviously, that hasn’t happened. I wish I could roll back the clock and start this process all over again and include the community in some important points in this process, where that temperature check really would have brought some great value. But I didn’t, and here we are.

“So,” he added, “we are going to move forward in the best way I think I know how.”

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Business Owner

The Mayor right now reminds me of the guy who screwed up his TPS reports in the movie Office Space....everyone has to remind him what he did wrong.

mlpogp

Well now. Thank you for doing the right thing...this new logo was atrocious and totally unnecessary. The spires are unique to the city's skyline. Leave it in place. So tired of these stupid buzzwords too, it's all so pathetic:

branding, rebranding


BradW

Anybody remember that insane "study" done during the Young regime by the Georgia "consultant" to privatize the county government? This smells a lot like that waste of money, though with less sheer malice.

sofanna

So, Mr. Mayor, who is going to reimburse the City of Frederick for the $45,000? I believe the County Executive should have to approve ALL future expenditures over $1 while you are the Mayor.

sevenstones1000

Freshen up the current clustered spires logo and use that.

gardenwhimsey

The name of the company involved is North Star. The company that built houses on Bentz Street where they tore down John Hansen apartments was North-something. Is there any relationship?

richardlyons

The word "north" comes to mind.

HappySeller2014

Ah, a good diversion! Let's not run off the rails here. North Star is a branding company.







The white bearded guy that gives toys to all good boys and girls lives at the North-something...could there be a relationship?







Come on. If you were a hockey fan in Dallas I could buy your argument. But in Fredneck?







Nah.


buckster

Someone on the "inside" has a "pop" secularist agenda. Can't have church steeples representing a government now can we. Wonder who it is?

CheetoBenito

As a “Recovering Catholic”, even I love the old Clustered Spires logo. Don’t change a thing.

HappySeller2014

To cure Logogate here, a good faith effort should be made to reimburse the taxpayers. Take $45K, divide it by the number of individual taxpayers and businesses within the Frederick City limits, and take that amont ($2, $5, $10 or wahatever) and offer a rebate on everyones water bills or property tax assessments. That is ACCOUNTABILITY. That is righting a wrong. That is taking full ownership of a questionable decision affecting your neighbors and friends. This is showing true apology, instead of hiding hehind smoke and mirrors for some branding effort no one still seems to understand or even wrap their thoughts around. See, easy fix here. Just do it.


joelp77440

Yea no.... That's the stupidest idea I ever heard.

HappySeller2014

You ever read, Joel. Unless your hearing has superpowers no one else is aware of.







Well then, the city can give me the $8 they would have been planning to give you. I double down at the blacjack tables all the time. I would have no issue doubling down on your dime.







You have any brighter ideas than mine Uncle Rico?


DickD

Dumbest.

TomWheatley

Or divide it up across City Hall staff who steamrolled this thru without much or any public knowledge.

MartyrLee

If the city were to reimburse taxpayers, the city would not just be out $45k, they'd be out $90k. What good would that do? Just cut funding to another project.

threecents

The major gave this explanation: “I think the tangible things that we will see will come out of the development of consistent letterhead, for example,” O’Connor said. “We want consistency. ... In rolling back the new logo, we have to take a look at how we develop the templates and look at the departments and all those kinds of things. North Star, as part of the work they did, provided us with a lot of that groundwork, which in and of itself is an extraordinary task.” So, were the aldermen involved in this process. I assume Donna was, but what about the others?

buckster

Your local printshop can create new letterhead. They do it everyday.

HappySeller2014

Consistency is developed through a mayorial exective order or edict. The city, led by the mayor, should be taking an internal look at its own departments and templates. Does not cost $45K to a company in Jacksonville, FL to standardize letterhead or make up a bonehead logo.



Who is running the circus here? To its credit, at least a circus has a ringleader keeping all the clowns and performers and animals in line.



We did not elect the mayor to simply be a caretaker for four years. He neads to LEAD.



This is not an extraordinary task. It is doing the hard work the mayor was voted into office to do.



Why hire a company that has to trek up here from Jackdonville, FL to brand us? Why not take a walk through city hall, or our beautiful city, and figure out who we are?

Dwasserba

'"We stand by the integrity of our work, which has helped more than 200 communities across the country best tell their story and become more competitive.”' Hmmm. Could it be that "story" is the go-to buzzword 'round the branding universe...could we get a discount...

rcfoster

What was the process? Who voted to approve the expenditure? No one is talking about this part of the whole story. His wife came up with the idea and then it was given to the FL group or put out for bids? How close was her design to the final design. What budget did that $45K come from? There is a lot more to answer for then just saying 'my bad'.

Dwasserba

His wife played no part. That's a rumor.

threecents

OK, but how do you know that?

richardlyons

BS.

rbtdt5

I have heard that same rumor. I wish the FNP would dig deeper into this.

richardlyons

Get Faux News to investigate.

KR999

Good idea. If CNN did get involved it might help their plummeting ratings. If that’s possible, that is.

rbtdt5

For those saying that the 45k was for more than the logo. Can one of you explain what we did get for our 45k other than the logo? This is also about more than money. He gave the local art community and local small business community the finger on this deal. He also screwed over the city tax payers. I always liked Mike but he may not be cut out for this role.

richardlyons

We got a lot of press!

bosco

Print version headline "Logo is let go".....as should the mayor be. What's wrong with the logo over his shoulder?

threecents

LoL. All he had to do was look behind him.

mikec

It's not an accident that FNP chose that picture. The photo says it all.

Crusty Frederick Man 64

He will be let go at the end of his first and only term. The fourth picture in this article looks like a baby pouting that didn’t get his cookie.

FCPS-Principal

It's so funny looking--a seahorse with an erection--I think the mayor should keep it. Paint it on his forehead.

CheetoBenito

[tongue][tongue]

That Guy Garcon

I just love the people defending the amount that was spent like it is nothing... $45K could put one new police officer on the street for one year, a new worker to help the wastewater plant stop flooding the creek, line painting on ALL the streets for all these people that can't seem to park, cameras in areas that need to be watched better... Now it is in the pockets of some guys in another state for "DOING A PROCESS" for a LOGO that will never be used... Way to Go [censored]

richardlyons

You crack me up!

threecents

Wow, 45K can go a long way. It could save the world - maybe the universe. No wonder we are furious.

joelp77440

No it couldn't. Not even close. FPD base salary is $55,000 per year. You add fringe benefits, taxes, workers comp., retirement, training, equipment, etc., etc., and each position is over $100+ thousand per year. As for the other positions, how could one person for one year resolve the Frederick waste water run off? Are they going to dig a new retention pit by themselves. Think Guy.

HappySeller2014

Joel, you already giving up. Share some of your bright ideas with us, if all of our ideas are not up your standards. We are curious. What would you do with $45K in the city's budget if it was not wasted like this fiasco???


rmaghan1

$45K??? Hahahahaha!!! Sounds the contracting office needs an overhaul. Branding is involved but this is ridiculous. I am glad to see the Mayor taking action, making hard decisions and having strength in his conviction. Stand up guy, knew his parents and they would be proud.

HappySeller2014

His poor parents. Once you blow away all the smoke and mirrors, it appears their son is maybe lacking in common sense and an inability to understand the political realities of making bonehead decisions, much less giving the finger to the local arts community and his neighbors and friends. I am raising my children differently.


pilot25

It is good to know, the politicians who run the city of Frederick, have fixed all the problems so they can concentrate on this nonsense.

$45,000 WORTH? ... "North Star, as part of the work they did, provided us with a lot of that groundwork, which in and of itself is an extraordinary task.”

Frayou

$45,000. What a waste. Too easy for politicians to blow someone else’s (taxpayers) away. This goes on all too often at all Government levels. Complacency. Too easy.

threecents

Even if the logo thing went well, I think we would still be telling the mayor to focus on substance over style, even if it bores him.

petersamuel

Here's a government waste story fo you: Did Metro spend over $500K on a self-cleaning toilet? A Metro Inspector General report found the transit system likely spent over $500,000 on maintenance and repairs for a self-cleaning toilet at Huntington station that’s been broken for two years.... from Greater Greater Washington online.

niceund

Who's paying the money back to the taxpayers?

DickD

Let's move on, O'Connor admits he was wrong, at least it sounds like he did. And yes, he should never have spent $45,000 on such a "f"oolish logo.

HappySeller2014

Like the squeegie kids in inner cities DickD. If you do not raise a stink about $45K, who is to say next time it won't be $500K? Government waste is government waste. However, this waste was quite obnoxious on so many levels. We need to let Logogate run its course.

DickD

The Mayor is limited to $50,000, it could never be $500,000 under current regulations.

KellyAlzan

Not quite accurate dick.

HappySeller2014

Things change DickD. Regulations can be rewritten. Squeegie kids move on to selling waters. A few lap dances can turn into a career of high end prostitution. One of my favorite quotes is, "Pay attention to the little things, lest they become big things." Seen this play out 1,000+ times during my lifetime. Trust me on this. If you want you can just keep on blowing the smoke away from your campfire in the pasture, but you could also blow a spark into the nearby woods and burn down 1,000 acres of forest. Just ask Californians. Taxpayers need to apply pressure NOW to nip this wasteful ridiculousness in the bud.


francesca_easa

My thoughts too. We all make mistakes. He apologized. Let's move on.

HappySeller2014

Yep, same logic made by many abused spouses. Let's just move on. My spouse said sorry. No harm, no foul. Oh well. It was just a slap this time. So, where is the accountability? Anyone paying $45K back to the taxpayers? I apologize to the police officers and judges every time I get a traffic ticket. But I still end up paying a fine or at least court fees. That is ACCOUNTABILTY in action.

sofanna

Who else makes a $45,000. MISTAKE? Branding Frederick? What in the world does that mean?

stefcfi

45 K. Hmm. For a logo. Local artists could have offered a whole portfolio of ideas, gratis.

Bick Mitchum

Why are you saying the exact same thing people have said 1,000 times already? Also, it wasn’t just for a logo however that’s all people want to hear.

HappySeller2014

Bick, what was it for? Can you share any insights? An interested public wants to know! No one else can tell us, even during a press conference.

Dwasserba

If they did, they should not. Professionals deserve appropriate compensation. It's not a hobby.

CapitanoZanetti

We the citizens aren't confused. The mayor is confused. Maybe work on crime. Why does Frederick need an Airport inside city limits ? Oh I forgot all about Mayor O'Connor's political donors and friends have private planes.Just lil ole me always confused.

jagman

"Clearly this process has not gone well and I apologize for that," he said. DUH!

HappySeller2014

$45K of Frederick City taxpayer dollars going to Jacksonville, FL for branding here locally is never going to go well. Just a bad look. Very bad look. Kinda late for an apology. Would more appreciate an apology for not employing common sense and being a knucklehead...I would accept that apology, along with $5 going back to every city taxpayer in this year's water bills.

walter3rd

Uh oh. SJWs mobilizing to remove the seal of Frederick and its church/cross imagery.

thisisPedro

Is that what happened? I thought the Clustered Spires represented Frederick City and the image is used in logos and branding . . .

walter3rd

No, I commented tongue in cheek. But I wouldn’t be surprised if someone who isn’t from here sees the seal and objects on the grounds it might offend someone.

MrSniper

It amazing what it takes for people to be outraged about in Frederick. $45k for a logo. $45k and you folks write whole dissertations. Take a moment to contemplate the insignificance of this whole thing. If this still matters to you a year from now, it probably says more about you than how serious this manufactured crisis is.

CapitanoZanetti

What a stupid comment.

rbtdt5

[thumbup]

Dwasserba

Sniper is right. This "issue" won't set the world on fire. Just us. Briefly.

HappySeller2014

What planet are you from? I bet your newspaper delivery boy tosses your Sunday paper in mud puddles and the next day you give him home baked cookies. No wonder many government officials think the general public is a bunch of peasants to be hoodwinked. I bet you $45K could have been put to good use within a one mile radius of your home to make some improvements here and there for you and your neighbors, but hey, no bother to you, eh?

threecents

True. Compare this to the national debt (about 22 trillion) or the this year's federal budget deficit (about 1 trillion). Shouldn't we be paying down the deficit in prosperous years? Oops, sorry for trolling. I don't want to interrupt the important discussion about the government wasting 45K.

Dwasserba

Partially wasting, to be accurate. There was more than a logo involved. And if it had been a hit, not a miss, it just would have been money...spent. Yawn.

threecents

DW, It is obvious from your cryptic comments throughout that you are involved in this. What is your involvement and what did we get that was more than a logo? You don't seem to understand that this was about a log more than just a bad logo.

sofanna

$45,000 - for a logo? What else did the $45,000 pay for that was oh so important?

richardlyons

[thumbup]

gabrielshorn2013

Smart move. Smarter move? Not doing in the first place.

Haganracing

The logo is a complete joke and the vast majority of residents hate it. We have memes on Facebook making fun of Frederick and it's logo. The amount of money that was put towards a logo, that does absolutely nothing to benefit our city's roads, sidewalks, landscapes, buildings, and residents is mind blowing. If our representatives in office cannot even manage to have a simple logo redesigned, what makes you think they're able to do anything beyond that?! Why are we outsourcing our logo to a company in another state? We should have done a 5k logo competition with our own locally talented artists who grew up or have lived in Frederick to capture what Frederick is truly about. After designs came in, we could ran a poll on the FNP to pick the top 10 logos and then do a fundraiser for $1 per vote throughout the next few weeks with voting stations throughout the area. Money gained from this would help cover part, if not all, of the 5k reward to the winner. We would have saved a whole lot of money. The competition's winner, a local resident, would have earned a nice little chunk of change, and some of that money may have been spent by the winner at local businesses. It's amazing how something so simple was completely screwed up..

Bick Mitchum

Wow, your comments are so original and insightful! Again the 45k wasn’t only for a logo! But you fake outrage people love to only hear what you want!

HappySeller2014

What was it for then Bick? Enlighten us. Do not blow smoke and claim false outrage yourself.

buckster

Many saying that we got more than a Logo, but none offer examples of what that we received except for vague references to "branding", a term used to mean what used to be image building. The history, citizens, and businesses of/in our community have built our image for hundreds of years.

sofanna

What did the $45,000. pay for?

Haganracing

I have only seen reports that the $45k was spent on the logo. Since you're so inclined to tell us that it wasn't for just the logo, please provide some examples Bick. Either way, there's absolutely NO reason our money needed to go out of the state for this blunder. Why aren't we supporting local businesses?

FCPS-Principal

Why is spending money at local businesses such a good thing?

Haganracing

A quick google search will help answer this comical question of yours. I guess I should take it easy on you, considering your username says it all.



https://ilsr.org/why-support-locally-owned-businesses/

HappySeller2014

Probably for the same good reasons we should spend money on our local public schools, teachers and administrators.



Are you really an FCPS principal somewhere running one of our county schools? OMG. I thought only the City of Frederick might have some knuckleheads under its employ.



Next time you complain about your salary to the teacher's union and the County school board, put a temporary tattoo on your forehead of this brillant question of yours.

StrengthofLiberty

For your 45K on the job training exercise Mr. Mayor, you, and those your "Team" get a warmhearted - Go [insert f-word] Yourself/ves Award. Instead of standing today to offer Frederick dignity, you and your team chose "No new logo for Frederick." No explainations of strategic "branding initiative" - which would have re-enforced your branding initiative of inclusive community. But what really gets you and your pals the double golden Go [insert f-word] Yourself/ves award is that you double down on your unwillingness to mention or even use the newly launched Maryland state procurment web site, featuring 12,000 Maryland businesses. Undoubtedly listing viable agencies, studios, and practices worthy of a "Call for Entries". Clearly the prize money is spent. Well done. Now apparently - its time to move on. Mike apologised. Think Local economics thanks you and your pals Mike. Any chance you revive your cable channel talk show? BTW - Who owns the lower case f logo now?

mdcommuter

Perhaps when the new downtown hotel is built, the city can give the hotel the logo as a welcoming gift.

HappySeller2014

Either f(F)resno, CA or f(F)unkstown, MD? I would assume the new owner got hoodwinked just like our Frederick City government.

mgoose806

So now City out $45K... Great Job.

petersamuel

The Mayor made the right decision today. To dump the F-logo and use the clustered spires as the reference point in the future. No new logo competition. Enough money spent, perhaps too much. The City seal has served OK as the City's logo. It was a huge mistake to spring the F-logo on people, he acknowledges. Celebrate everyone who spoke up and the mayor who made our system of government work the way it should... after quite a lapse.

threecents

“It’s important to talk about what we can still achieve with this branding initiative.” So talk about it. Let us know your vision for Frederick and why we should buy into it.

girlpolitic

Michael O'Connor (aka Citizen MOC): So disappointed in today's press conference. Like most residents I have to work and unable to attend a meeting at 9AM on a workday. I was able to watch a few minutes of the presser. I ask that you schedule this item for a regular MBOA meeting to give more folks the ability to speak. While it is wonderful that you have realized YOUR mistakes in allowing this ill-advised "branding project" to move forward YOU NEED TO STOP THE ENTIRE PROCESS NOW, until you allow the community to discuss this further. NO NOT SPEND ONE MORE DIME? So disappointed with most of the weak justifications. Most shocking was when you said, “We had many departments choosing their own graphics.” You should realize by now you are the Chief Executive Officer of the City of Frederick. You can control that by executive direction. Surprised you did not realize that. You need to reel in Parks & Rec it seems like they must be running the City anyway. P&R has been is famous for wasting tax dollars. Remember when Roelke decided to have his own logo years back? He decided to have all PR vehicles to have their own seal/graphic? While every other City Vehicle had “the cluster spires” or some reference to it; he spent lots of money to put the façade of the “old armory” his their vehicles. It will be interesting to see what happens if they ever move somewhere else. While I do not doubt that most staff and department heads are professional and loyal; they did not serve you well if none of them cautioned you about your decision and your plan to implement it. “Join the Story” slogan is at best mediocre. I pray that “group-think” has not set in at 101 North Court Street. I am concerned that if this continues it will be Frederick’s version of “The New Coke.” I know you care about this City and our citizens so let’s get this right, otherwise I can envision in the year 2075 when the walking tours of downtown traverse Church & Court Streets; after the group hears about the “Spite House” and its origins they can walk by City Hall point at the CEO of the 62nd administration and tell the story of the flying “F.”

ScottC

To compound the irony of this fiasco, the top of the logo on the cover page for article this is cut off, so the stylistic 'f' is compromised.

HappySeller2014

Wow, it costs $45K for the City of Frederick to employ and then kill a logo that looks like a constipated squawking duck/parrot in pain as it flies east to west. I did not know bird extermination was so expensive. I hope the city is not overpaying or simply taking the lowest bid on other pest control and remediation services.

HappySeller2014

I have known for many years now that the City of Frederick does not need a new logo. I have come to that conclusion, and held it for many years, without spending a nickle of my neighbor's, friend's or local taxpayer's money. Branding effort? What? We do not have people smart enough in house? What about FCPS folks? The local Visit Frederick visitor center folks? The folks that brand the Frederick Keys, whose stadium is owned by the city? Graphic artist students at Hood and Mount Saint Mary's and FCC...as well as our local high schools? See, my advice is free. Did not cost $45K. But Frederick LL does not have a downtown baseball field because it is often underwater. I see homeless folks in tents and under bridges. We have maintenance issues in buildings and with trees and weeds on sidewalks and streets. We citizens have to pay for downtown parking almost everywhere in quarters. $45K is 180,000 quarters, but NO, instead of helping the common Joe by making some more parking free so we can attract more business patrons, the city spends $45K on a sick duck turning into a parrot somewhere out in the Southwest. Sad. Really sad. $45K sure could have gone to help us locally, instead of down to Jacksonville, FL. Could the city rebate us by lowering our property tax rate or water rates? Dumb decisions have consequences. Unless citizens see some type of reimbursement, this Logogate is going to turn this duck/parrot distaster into an albatross for the mayor and city council.

Mr Complainy Pants

There are numerous talented artists in Frederick that I bet would like to create a new logo for Frederick. Has anyone asked them?

gardenwhimsey

We do not need to get a local artist to design a logo because we do not need a new logo.

rbtdt5

Agreed, North Star got their 45k that the Mayor wanted them to have for whatever reason, so now we can move forward. Forget that the mayor went behind everyone's back to quietly make this happen and kept the amount just low enough he didn't need to tell the aldermen. Most like Richard and Deb don't care about 45k. To some it's not enough money to get upset with, for others that's more than a years salary.

Dwasserba

If yoy were referencing me about the 45k ( were you?) it had occurred to me the Hayward House project could use that funding. I never said I don't care, I said it flew under the bar for involving the Aldermen. Fact. Not flashy, not fun.

Dwasserba

We will hear about this every time he runs for any office forever. Logogate. Such a fuss.

richardlyons

Much ado about nothing.

rbtdt5

So now after spending $45k of tax payer money we have decided we never needed a new logo to begin with? Glad we are so rich as a city that we can just throw away $45k. I wish that money could have gone toward cutting the over grown trees in the city. Constantly have to duck the branches walking around in the city.

vjhughes

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

KR999

Last time my wife and I were in Frederick we noticed sidewalks that were major tripping hazards from tree roots pushing them up. That $45k could have been applied to correcting a lot of them, too.

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