Jenkins Supporters

Some of those gathered on the four corners of downtown Frederick waved American flags and signs during a rally Monday, sponsored by the Frederick County Conservative Club.

Roughly 50 people waved blue line flags and variations of the message “support our sheriff” at the intersection of Market and Patrick streets in Frederick Monday night.

The group, organized in part by the Frederick County Conservative Club, assembled in support of Republican Sheriff Chuck Jenkins, his policies and local law enforcement.

Fred Propheter, president of the Conservative Club, said he organized Monday’s rally “on a whim” once he learned another rally organized by the RISE Coalition of Western Maryland calling for defunding the sheriff’s office and abolishing the 287(g) program was also occurring Monday night at Baker Park.

He said he has been on ride-alongs with sheriff’s deputies and he believes no racial profiling occurs within the office.

“If you don’t do anything illegal, if you’re not arrested, they do not profile you,” Propheter said. “They can’t take you to jail for having a taillight out. They can’t take you for speeding, unless you’re reckless driving and don’t have a license, then you go to jail and then you go through the process.”

At several points during the rally Monday, drivers through the intersection honked their horns in support of those gathered, and for Jenkins and law enforcement.

One of the residents gathered was Todd Offutt, who lives in Frederick. Offutt said he was attending Monday’s rally in support of Jenkins and local police officers.

Offutt said 287(g) is an effective program and legal residents don’t have to worry about being deported. But people who are here illegally should not be allowed to stay, he added.

“If you’re not here in a legal way, you should have to go back to where you came from,” Offutt said. “And get in line. We’d love to have you, but just get in line.”

“Nothing’s perfect,” Offutt added when asked about flaws with the current immigration system. “But this supports legal immigration ... there are people who stand in line legally to get in this country. And these folks have jumped the line to get over, and if they commit a crime and they’re caught ... they should go back to where they came.”

Multiple former law enforcement officers were part of Monday’s rally as well, including Marty Weedon, who retired as a state trooper roughly six years ago.

Weedon, who lives in the Urbana area, said he was there to “back the blue,” who he feels have a difficult job and need the public’s support.

“I think the problem is nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions ... [and they feel] like the police can do no right,” Weedon said.

Regarding the recent police killing of George Floyd and incidents of racial profiling, there are “a few bad apples,” but there is a lot of good police officers do that doesn’t get recognized, he said.

There are many state troopers, city police officers and sheriff’s deputies he’s known locally that do a great job, Weedon said.

“I’m just happy to be here, and give officers the support they need,” he said.

Ultimately, those who gathered Monday night were supporting Jenkins, the 287(g) program and his work since he was first elected as sheriff in Frederick County in 2006.

Propheter said he used to live in Silver Spring, and prefers the system in Frederick County where the sheriff is elected, versus a county police chief who is appointed by county executives in other counties statewide.

That means the people have a direct say in who they want to ensure public safety in the county, he said.

“They don’t wet their finger to the political winds to see what’s going on,” Propheter said. “He’s not going to tell his deputies to give [criminals] room, stand back and let them have their summer of fun.”

Follow Steve Bohnel on Twitter: @Steve_Bohnel

Steve Bohnel is the county government reporter for the Frederick News-Post. He can be reached at sbohnel@newspost.com. He graduated from Temple University, with a journalism degree in May 2017, and is a die-hard Everton F.C. fan.

(109) comments

jerseygrl42

those who wish to defund and have open borders will be the first to call if/when they are threatened and I hope when they make that call they find nothing but a busy signal...We in Fred. county ae incredibly lucky to have Sheriff J and his deputies!!!!

bosco

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awteam2000

I would like to apologize from the greater Frederick community that a sheriff allowed a private citizen to cruise with him through your neighborhood and see if you guys were up to criminal activity, I hope it didn’t frighten you or your children.

We won’t police to help you, not to harass or intimidate you, especially not to bring along private citizens as tourist.

You are “NOT” an entertainment attraction “IT” to be despised.

Most folks in Frederick aren’t intolerant of you and welcome your contributes to the greater community.

bosco

Have ever done a citizen ride along? I would recommend it to anyone who wants to see how the police serve and protect our communities.

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Lemmy

Leaders in the black community are calling on the New York Police Department to bring back the plainclothes Anti-Crime Unit that was eliminated last month as shootings and murders spike across the city.

About 600 undercover officers from the unit were set to be transferred to other assignments including detective work and policing neighborhoods, NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea said a month ago. The anti-crime unit, which was responsible for getting guns off the streets, had been criticized as stoking distrust in law enforcement in minority communities.

Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, one of the African-American voices calling for action on gun violence, criticized the police force’s decision to completely disband the unit. He deplored the recent deadly shooting of a one-year-old, one of the victims of New York City’s recent spike in gun violence.

“I think that a total elimination is something we need to reevaluate,” Adams said, CBS New York reported. “Right now, bad guys are saying if you don’t see a blue and white you can do whatever you want.”

PurplePickles aka L&M

Source ? Otherwise you’re just babbling and I have some swamp land for sale because you believe your own babbling.

gabrielshorn2013

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/07/13/new-york-city-shootings-nypd-anti-crime-unit-eric-adams-tony-herbert/

bosco

Good source. Thanks.[ninja]

PurplePickles aka L&M

This is to get guns off the streets so I’m not sure the point you are trying to make or what it has to do with the BLM movement and needing police reform. but go ahead and try to make your point . I’m waiting

You really don’t understand the BLM movement do you ?

gabrielshorn2013

If referring to me, I just entered the last paragraph into google and that story came up. I'm not making any point.

PurplePickles aka L&M

Sorry no, I was referring to Lemmy and I can see he has yet to make any point, go figure!

bosco

The BLMers made their point pretty clear when they attacked a multi-racial, multi-faith, pro-police march led by a group of clergy in NYC yesterday.

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PurplePickles aka L&M

This demonstration tells me that BlackLivesMatter is finally having an effect on people's thinking and they are wanting to see changes made to the way the police police the people, and the conservatives are afraid, about what I'm not sure. 

  Fear has always been the way to get to a conservative, make them afraid of something and they will do and believe anything as the above story illustrates.

BlackLivesMatter is nothing to be afraid of but you are all acting like a bunch of Scaredy cats.   

Why they like seeing so much of their tax dollars spent on the police and then their tax dollars are spent again when the cops victims are compensated because of police brutality and or murder by the police is beyond my thinking, but they do.

I thought conservatives didn't like paying taxes? But I guess it's okay if a cop murders us?

I bet if you asked anyone specifically that was there last night why and what they support about Jenkins they couldn't come up with one thing.

Lemmy

Black Lives Matter is not a peaceful protest group. It is a cultural revolutionary Marxist mob pursuing the total transformation of modern society under the new woke world order. This is not my opinion. You can go to their website as this is something they openly declare. Visit the Black Lives Matter website, and the first frame you get is a large crowd with fists raised and the slogan “Now We Transform.” Read . . . .

shiftless88

For being not a peaceful protest group they certainly seem to be involved in a LOT of peaceful protests. Perhaps you should complain to them that they aren't violent enough and need to ramp it up? I suspect you do not understand Marxism.

Lemmy

Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors said that she and her fellow organizers are “trained Marxists”. Those are her words. In Indianapolis, the downtown canal saw its second homicide within a week after an argument broke out. One group offended over the term “all lives matter” shot and killed the mother of a 3-year-old on Sunday. Since June, shootings and murders have surged across many of the country’s major cities. Minneapolis, New York, Philadelphia, Nashville, Chicago, Milwaukee, Indianapolis, Cincinnati, and New Orleans have all seen murders jump over 20 percent this year. The violence is heavily concentrated in the last few months, ever since protests have led to nationwide pressure on politicians to “defund” and “reimagine” policing. Perhaps you should start paying attention.

PurplePickles aka L&M

I suspect Lemmy doesn't understand a lot of things, probably because he has lower cognitive ability. We need to gently educate him so he understands.

https://this.kiji.is/654692711496467553?c=592622757532812385

shiftless88

Hey Lemmy; did you read that Indianapolis story closely? First off, this was started when someone from the group expressed a racial slur. The people nearby heard it and challenged them. The two groups separated and went on their own ways. A while later someone shot at this group from a bridge and killed one of the people in that group. The police have not even confirmed the initial interaction let alone connected those two events. This was the second shooting in this area of the city (this was at 3 am; what was the mother of a three year old doing out at 3 am?) in the last week or so.

shiftless88

Lemmy; you need to brush up on critical thinking. The BLM movement is large and diverse. It is not, overall, a Marxist organization. By the way, where does one go to Marxist school to be trained? I am curious.

Lemmy

"Racial slur". Sure . . . . .

shiftless88

Lemmy; I am just quoting from Fox News: "According to Ramirez, he and the victim and two other people were hanging out along the canal when someone in their group used a slang version of the N-word.

That word prompted a confrontation by a group of strangers.

During a brief argument, Ramirez claims the suspect’s group shouted Black Lives Matter and either Whitaker or someone in her group replied that All Lives Matter."

sevenstones1000

And you think the sheriffs department is peaceful? How many people have been killed or injured by the Frederick Sheriffs department? How many by Frederick BLM? There‘s your violence.

C.D.Reid

And I bet your wrong. Again.

PurplePickles aka L&M

Then name why and what you support about Jenkins? I double dog dare you KR999 and also for grins and giggles for the readers. what it is you like and support Trump for?

C.D.Reid

" double dog dare" PurPic? Cute, really cute. Now, it's time to grow up. As far as my reasons for supporting Jenkins and Trump, in the first place I have stated my reasons for both here before and I'm not going to repeat myself again because, in the second place, I don't owe you any explanations. Included repeated ones. I suggest you start taking notes if your memory is that shot.

Lemmy

Was the destruction on Minneapolis an example of "peaceful" protests?

Peaceful? https://twitter.com/i/status/1283015690178396160

Peaceful? https://twitter.com/i/status/1283052793792790533

Peaceful? https://twitter.com/i/status/1282494842401153024

Peaceful? https://twitter.com/i/status/1282665041922273282

Peaceful? https://twitter.com/i/status/1282434684425838594

Peaceful? https://twitter.com/i/status/1282777140996517898

phydeaux994

CD, you have never expressed your views here on Trump and Jenkins and you won’t now because the only reason you support them is because they are Racists just like you and hate People of Color and BLM and anyone who supports the Peaceful Protests sponsored by BLM. The biggest problem in America today is Racism and Racists and mainstream Americans are sick and tired of the Hate and Venom spewed out by Donald John Trump and the White Supremacists.

C.D.Reid

Fido, your a dam n liar. I have expressed my reasons for supporting both Jenkins and Trump and I'm tired of your bugging me about it. Like I told your buddy, if you can't remember what I say, start taking notes.

phydeaux994

I may not have been on the Forum that day. And there are dozens of new folks here who have never heard you say it. Who were you when you said it, Glen Shiel, CDReid, KR999? You’ve been here for a long time and you said it once?? A refresher would be nice, it would help people comprehend your reasoning, which is difficult. 👍😷

Lemmy

A disarming rebuttal . . . . .

patomd969

Conservatives fearful???? How about liberals and their fear of going outside during the coronavirus????

DickD

Liberals are smart enough to know that the virus can kill you. Coservatives believe Trump's lies and refuse to wear a mask.

America or Trump

PurplePickles aka L&M

Huh this comment makes no sense? You aren't afraid of catching a killer virus and then maybe passing on that killer virus? i wouldn't say liberals are afraid of going outside, they are afraid of running into people like you and the people above, I don't see any social distancing nor mask wearing in the above picture, that's just stunningly stupid behavior.

Even if you don't die the virus has long term affects on your body, so your comment is stunningly stupid, can you figure out why?

shiftless88

Science: the brains that have bigger "fear centers" (amygdala) belong to conservatives

bosco

For nothing to be afraid of, the BLMers in NYC aren't helping you prove your point. Today they attacked a multi-faith, multi-racial, pro-police march led by the clergy and BLM attacked them with clubs on the Brooklyn Bridge. Is that your message of peace?

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bosco

BLM is nothing to be afraid of? Tell that to the multi-faith, multi-racial, pro-police, peacefull march led by a group of clergy that was attacked by BLMers on the Brooklyn Bridge yesterday.

[ninja]

Frankle1

Glad to know that there were only 50 people to celebrate our racist sheriff. The protests in Frederick against police brutality attracted about 5,000. [rolleyes]

C.D.Reid

Fifty people for a spur of the moment event. Do you happen to remember how many showed up for the organized pro 287(g) rally at the bandshell last year?

shiftless88

So you are saying they are capable of organizing? I can buy that.

C.D.Reid

Maybe you and PurplePickles can go hand in hand trying to grow up.

PurplePickles aka L&M

KR is just upset shiftless88 because he can't come up with why he supports what he supports. Again we are seeing lower cognitive ability.

Telling us to grow-up is projection on his part so it leaves me wondering how old he/she is ? And he doesn't like us challenging him and is basically telling us to buzz off. LOL

KellyAlzan

I remember KR from the late 90’s. He did a lot of ride alongs.

Frankle1

"Hundreds" ... which is literally thousands less than the anti-police brutality protests. [whistling]

mdfishingboy

I wish they had planned this better there would have been a lot more people there, including me. We should have another rally at the band shell

DickD

Is this a question of how good our police force is? If so, I think that they are very good and deserving of our support.

threecents

As much as I dislike our sheriff's politics, I agree with Dick.

DickD

I said police; not the Sheriff.

sevenstones1000

Sheriffs deputies roughed up my son who is on the autism spectrum and who was merely lost and trying to find a doctor’s office where he had an appointment. Instead of helping him when he tried to show them the paper with her name on it, they threw him up against the car and handcuffed him. Given what happened a few years later with another disabled young man, I guess I should be thankful he got out of that encounter alive.

They just had to call the phone number to check. They wouldn’t even do that. That’s who your sheriff’s office is.

gabrielshorn2013

Did you file a complaint?

C.D.Reid

Good question, gabe.

So, seven, did you?

shiftless88

Sure it is a good question but is it reasonable? The deputies say one thing and an autistic kid saying something else? Where do you think that would go, realistically? And again, THIS is why deputies should have body cameras.

C.D.Reid

By filing a report what occurred would have been on record, no matter what the results. And, by the way, I'm all for all law enforcement officers wearing body cameras. They not only protect the rights of citizens, but the rights of the police too.

gabrielshorn2013

shiftless, yes, I believe it is reasonable. If people file complaints there is a paper trail. Those complaints themselves will be examined during the CALEA audit. If there is a pattern indicating a systemic problem at the FCSO, those complaints can be used as evidence to deny CALEA certification. In my line of work the old saying is "if it ain't written, it's a rumor", and the complaints mentioned here by some become hearsay. Authorities cannot act on hearsay.

gabrielshorn2013

Oh, BTW shiftless, I firmly support body cameras. We will have to find a way to fund them by either raising taxes, or cutting out something less of a priority from the budget.

gabrielshorn2013

I should have added this to my last post. You can see for yourself what the compliment/complaint process is using the link below.

https://www.frederickcosheriff.com/compliments-complaints

shiftless88

I think the string of complaints that have led nowhere in law-enforcement offices across the country would probably frustrate anyone. Basically the police have to enforce themselves and they have not done a good job of it.

gabrielshorn2013

Understood shiftless. However, the FCSO have given the citizens a tool to make the complaints official and transparent. The CALEA continued certification depends on prompt resolution of those complaints, and can be rescinded for non-performance according to standards. If citizens refuse to use the tools given to them to make the FCSO more responsive to their needs, and adding increased transparency, then the problem rests with them. Partnership is a two-way street.

shiftless88

gabe; I agree, but I also see why people would find it futile. Bashing your own head against a wall gets tiring after a while. Again, this is why cameras are important. Then it would increase the chance of a factual resolution. Which is likely why Chuckles does not want them.

KellyAlzan

What difference does it make if a complaint was made or not?

The said incident still happened. Making a complaint doesn’t take away from what happened.

gabrielshorn2013

To which incident are you referring plumbum?

sevenstones1000

I called and spoke to the in charge officer on duty. I called as a citizen and said that they had a chance to help my son and make a friend for life - instead, they traumatized a young person who has not only autism, but also depression and anxiety. All they had to do was listen to him and call the number on the paper he had in his hand.

The officer was supremely disinterested in my issue. Did I follow up with a written complaint? No. I’m afraid of the sheriffs department. My son still has to live in Frederick. You think I want him shot dead on the way to work to get back at me for complaining? You think I want them having my address on their hate list?

Wake up Frederick. These are heavily militarized, aggressively trained, self described “warriors”.

KellyAlzan

I wish I cloud share a couple stories about Sherf Trumpkins. I can’t share the stories because Trumpkins will retaliate against who they involve. Heck, one of the stories involves a former deputy whom Trumpkins held / holds resentment towards a relative of the deputy!!

Maybe once Trumpkins is gone, I will share.....

gabrielshorn2013

Do you honestly believe that a complaint would put you or your son on a police "hit list"? Really? Furthermore, if there were retaliation for making such a complaint, there would be more evidence to support a lawsuit. Paranoia will destroy ya.

shiftless88

You really think that there is no retaliation? I mean it may not be blatant enough for a suit but there is ample evidence that police will pull certain people over quite a bit.

gabrielshorn2013

No, actually I don't shiftless. If you suspect there is, every time you are pulled over record the date and time, the street, the weather, the officer's name and badge number, and the reason you were pulled over. The camera on a smart phone is a good way to do this, because you can also record the officer's demeanor. After a few of those, file another complaint, copying your attorney.

C.D.Reid

Sure wish I had known about this. As much as I hate going to Frederick, this would have been a worthwhile cause to do so. BLUE LIVES MATTER!!!

KellyAlzan

Next time I’ll pick you up. You missed a good time!

huskycats

Way to go, Frederick Police and Sheriff Jenkins !!!

Ellenatodd

So proud of Frederick Police Dept officers at the 287g rallies. Despite BLMs screaming, taunting and even photographing officers (to intimidate), the officers maintained an effective buffer between opposing groups. So proud of them!

awteam2000

Ellenatodd, You are not suggesting black lives don’t matter. Is it a one or the other, black lives verses policing? I hope not.

Rockfish

[thumbup] I saw the two sides & protests last night in downtown Frederick. What I can say is the folks supporting the police were much more civil to the other side than those organized by the RISE Coalition who very freely threw the F-Bomb around & flipped the bird to anyone they didn't like or agree with.

bosco

Interesting and not surprising. They do so much to help advance their cause that way. [ninja]

awteam2000

Rockfish that’s pretty cool you can be in both places at the same time. And comparing the “ f-bomb in protest to separation of families”. There wouldn’t be many oppose to the RISE Coalition if it was based Who used the most profane language. Most of the supporters of 287g can’t express their differences without profanity.🤦‍♂️

Rockfish

Where you there? Not hard to see 2 sides at one time when they're only 10 ft. apart, separated by a line of fine men & women in BLUE!

bosco

I wonder if this crowd left any graffiti behind? [ninja]

C.D.Reid

I have $500 that says there wasn't any. These were decent, law abiding citizens.

Greg F

I’d put money on it there were KKK and white supremacists there too.

C.D.Reid

And you don't think it would have been mentioned in the article if there had been, Greg F? Are you really that naïve?

bosco

Maybe the BLMers will send out one of their operatives to graffiti up the covered bridge in Baker Park like they did last time. After all, it only takes a can off "Goof Off" to remove the "street art".

Check out #walkaway

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awteam2000

Can “ Black Lives Matter“ and “Blue Lives Matter” co-exist?

threecents

Why would they? They are supporting the status quo.

Lemmy

Awesome to see. Fully support the Frederick Police and Sheriff Jenkins.

awteam2000

If you are a private citizen, cruising around with a sheriff officer throughout a predominantly Hispanic community, isn’t that profiling in itself?

Whatsup

Absolutely not. Every neighborhood deserves patrolling. If one particular area has a higher crime rate, it should be patrolled more. Pretty simple.

bosco

Or we can adopt the anarchist's model which is wait until the fit hits the shan and then send in a social worker with a sack lunch and some coloring books. (sarcasm alert) The citizen residents in all neighborhoods want the police when they dial 911, not a dial tone. It's the anarchists who don't want the police.

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C.D.Reid

Why would it be, aw? Please, explain.

awteam2000

Just asking... why would one be purposely riding around looking for crime by Hispanic people if you didn’t have a previous disposition that they are more likely to be criminals and with no cause? And why would a sheriff take a private citizen into a potentially dangerous environment? Just thought that’s odd.

C.D.Reid

Re. your first question, did you happen to read Whatsup's reply to you at 8:16am? As far as your second, that's part of a ride along, and the person doing it is not put in harm's way.

awteam2000

“Every neighborhood deserves patrolling.” The sheriff is definitely slacking in my neighborhood. I would like multiple daily drive-bys and interrogations of my neighbors everyday, like the Hispanic community gets everyday.” I’m being cheated”.

No, it’s just harassment of others. Community policing would be a better system rather than cops fishing for people to deport , based on lame charges, breaking up families who aren’t causing any trouble.

girlpolitic

FNP, you need a for real county govt reporter. The sheriff, county officials and state officials are elected on the gubernatorial cycle [2006]. 2008 was the presidential cycle.

MDchange

God Bless the Blue!

Greg F

Buddha bless the Blur Man Group

Greg F

Buddha bless the Blue Man Group

bosco

I support the rule of law and those who enforce the laws. It's an easy choice, especially from what we see happening in the Democrat-run major cities such as Seattle, Minneapolis, Chicago, and especially New York, where the Dems have given over their cities to mob rule.

Jenkins is elected by the people and for the people.

[batman]

Greg F

Democratic-run, B...we know what your doing there. All the reich wing revisionist slang.

C.D.Reid

The truth hurts, huh Greg?

threecents

Bosco[thumbup] Yah, It is not the fault of the police that the system has some problems which will not be addressed until we, as a country, say Bye Don.

C.D.Reid

FYI three, the system had multiple problems long before Trump became president, and it will have problems long after he's completed his second term. Quit trying to blame the problems of the world on one man whom you personally hate.

threecents

999, Of course the system has had problems for many years. That's all in the American History 101 class I have been telling you about. Trump does not acknowledge them at this key point point when they have the rest of America's attention. Just yesterday he denied there is an issue with police treatment of black people.

public-redux

I support the rule of law and justice for all!!

DickD

Even Donald Trump? How about Trump's buddy, Stone?

public-redux

Which part of “rule of law and justice for all” is unclear?

Pisces

I support our police!!

LeonardKeepers

i am not physically able to attend a gathering like this,but i support the sheriff.we have to stop being a sanctuary to these illegal people.

Retired and Bored

First of all I want to give KUDOS to the Conservation Club (if I got that wrong I apologize). If I would have know I would have been there attempted to be there waving my 3 foot x 5 foot American Blue Line flag, and any and all suppirt we can give our Law EnforcementOfficers is the best way we can show them we care and Thank them for their hard and dangerous work.

I've known Sheriff Jenkins before he was elected Sheriff. Frederick County/City has become inundated with illegals and gangs. I know we have Bloods, Crips, and several other "American" gangs, I don't know another way to phrase it. MS-13 has no business being in our city. I live out in the county and I have had people I've seem as illegals only because I've seen the behaviors when I worked as a rental agent at an apartment complex. I've people who worked for the company I worked for be exposed to TB and other diseases that we thought to be eradicated. I support Sheriff Jenkinks in accepting Federal funds that help.move illegals out of the city and county.

awteam2000

Employable, How did you determine who was illegally here, what were the rent applicate restrictions at your apartment rental operation? Has there been a TB (Tuberculosis) or any other disease outbreaks in Frederick, other then the Coronavirus? And how did you determine what gangs they were members of?

phydeaux994

The Detention Center detains illegal aliens until ICE picks them up to go before a Federal Judge to determine their fate. They are men and women who have served their sentence for the crime they were arrested for originally or were arrested on the street for a minor crime and released with no jail time. Keep in mind that the lack of Federal Judges limits the number of illegal aliens that actually are ordered to be deported to about 400,000 a year and ICE wants those to be Felons so thousands who have committed misdemeanors are released back into the population on the spot. Those to be deported must wait a year or more for a deportation hearing before a Federal Judge so they too are released and never show up for their deportation hearing a year later. So ask Sheriff Jenkins how many of those illegal aliens taken from the Detention Center by ICE are actually deported.

MD1756

Not all misdemeanors are harmless and not everyone who are only convicted of a misdemeanor is actually guilty of a misdemeanor. How many times in the "justice" system are criminals allowed plea deals to reduce the burden on the court system? It isn't too hard to stay out of jail in the first place. Don't commit a crime and you're not likely to go to jail (yes, people are sometimes inappropriately arrested but I suspect that is a very low percentage of arrests (and I don't lump in those suspected of a crime but can't be proven with the evidence on hand as an inappropriate arrest). There are also those who have been mistakenly released under various programs who had no business of being released.

Cooperation between law enforcement at all levels is a good thing, not a bad thing.

DickD

Do you know how many detained are actually deported, phy? I don't.

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