As a moderate Democrat, I feel there have been instances in the past where we have unfairly criticized our president.

After all, the man has some redeeming qualities, which I have listed below:

George Jones New Market

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threecents

Oh, I get it: He has no redeeming qualities... Well, what about the 70K tax write-off for hair styling? That certainly shows Chutzpa, which could be considered a good quality - if you like fraud.

awteam2000

Which is worse - Trump writing off $70,000 in haircare as a federal tax business write off or Trump paying $70,000 for hair care?

PurplePickles aka L&M

@AWTeam

Which is worse to Trump? Us knowing this about his hair care and laughing. Or trying to figure out who gave the New York Times his tax info, and what else the New York Times has on him and when the next bombshell will be revealed? He may not have any need for hair care much longer.

Girl No.3

Mary Trump supplied much of that information.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@Girl No. 3

That’s what I figured, and you know how much info she has! Drip drip drip

Thewheelone

Maybe Michael Cohen had copies, Purple!

Greg F

What’s worse...trump ragging on people who don’t pay taxes...then not paying himself. There is no way he avoided taxes legitimately...and his former lawyer said that same thing.

bosco

Bottom line - has Trump followed the tax laws as written and has he taken any deductions not allowed? What law requires the president to release his tax records?

[ninja]

phydeaux994

He didn’t.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@bosco/Eric Trump

It has yet to be proven the orange one actually followed the tax laws as written, that has yet to be determined. So .....

And are you really that stupid to not know why we should see Trump’s taxes, really are you?

Look at who I’m talking to, I think I just answered my own question.

Greg F

It’s hard to break up a cult.

threecents

Yah, Google it if you want. Apparently he owes about 100 million in penalties. But he's special, right? But that is not the bottom line. The bottom line is that he has not gotten rid of the loopholes that allow people like him to take advantage of the rest of us. Wasn't that what he said he would do?

threecents

Another bottom line that Trump issued before being elected was that he would release his tax returns if elected. So I hope you pardon me if I believe the NYT accounts of his tax returns. If Trump earnestly disputes them, all he has to do is... release his tax returns and show us what the NYT got wrong.

Greg F

Gaslighting again B...you’re just wishful thinking. Comey even doesn’t believe his taxes are legit and that his $10M check and trump asking is the IRS really they stupid should say a lot to you trust you refuse to hear. The more that is revealed the more frazzled and bolder lies trump spouts. Zero cred b...you and t-rump.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@Greg F

It does appear Bosco/Eric Trump’s office has a gas leak. Do you want to call the gas company or should I? But it may be too late to save him from brain damage?

Hayduke2

Bosco- must be exhausting defending Trump world. It is sad you can not accept the great con Trump has put the con in conservative.

phydeaux994

He claimed a loss on his tax forms and a profit on his Financial Statement. One of those has to be fraudulent bosco. You pick it.

olefool

And both or either of them are illegal.... Bye bye Donnie....

bosco

Still don't see an answer, just snarky comments. Has Trump followed the tax laws as written and has he taken any deductions not allowed? What law requires the president to release his tax records?

If that's too tough to answer, how about: Has anyone here not taken advantage of every tax credit/writeoff available?

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awteam2000

Bosco, tax fraud for one ☝️, the consultant fees allegedly paid by Trump to Ivanka - $700,000. There’s no legitimate reason for Ivanka to get those consulting fees as she was already getting paid as a Trump employee. The only possible reason to do this is to move the money around so that they would not be taxed to Donald but the effect would go onto Ivanka’s tax returns who probably had certain losses that she could take against it. So in the end, the government gets zero dollars.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@Bosco/Eric Trump

Scroll up and read my comment from yesterday and then look down at awteam's comment right below your comment

We answered your questions I believe?

AGAIN I WILL STATE IT FOR YOU: It has yet to be proven he followed the tax laws as written, AW's comment shows you just one example of how he didn't follow the law, you understand ? There will be more.....

And no there is no law that says a President has to release his taxes BUT .....the orange one is debt big time with that debt coming due in a few years, who is he in debt to and are his policies/actions being effected by that debt? That is something we the people should know, because we the people are the ones who are paying for his actions financially with out tax dollars and probably our lives.

The push to reopen the economy is directly related to the orange ones massive debt and needing money to pay off his loans....Again how can you be so stunningly stupid to even ask this again? Why do we need to see his taxes..why do you think?

Greg F

It’s a bad rug to boot.

phydeaux994

Boy, the BTT(BullyTagTeam) is dwindling lately. Obadiah Plainsman, jsk, gab, User1, the whole flock🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑that showed up during the FNP Opinion Forum Pandemic Freebie Period. Probably the ones that had to pay more Federal Taxes than Don. Why in the World did Donald John Trump think being President was a smart idea??? He could have kept his scam going for the rest of his life. Malignant Narcissism overcomes stupidity.

NewMarketParent

Looks like even @Reek (Or should I call you Clayton Bigsby?) even showed up with his pathetic lip service to anything related to blackness, while at the same time capin' for white supremacy.

Seriously, Reek, your attempt to signal your fake POC status is pretty pathetic and transparent.

phydeaux994

bosco.....!! Where are you.....?? Cat got your tongue....??😂🤣😷

public-redux

Another 75 Benghazis yesterday on Trump’s watch.

pdl603

Looks like George’s head is about as empty as the democrat’s quiver of arrows against Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

Greg F

Piddle...that is a laugh-factory of a reply. I cannot wait to have t-rump show himself the idiot he is on the debate stage. Still ever-defending your immoral king.

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PurplePickles aka L&M

@PDL

You know I haven't a clue about Greg F's morals but I am pretty confident he hasn't cheated on two wives nor paid off a porn star he barebacked while his wife that was recovery from childbirth. But if you want to believe Trump has more morals than Greg F maybe you should tell us what you mean by more morals? I'd be really curious to hear what you mean PDL?

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Hayduke2

Wait, you just made that comment with a straight face. Come on, bet even you couldn't say that with a straight face. Thanks for the laugh.

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pdl603

PeePee, you don’t know squat about the president because all you read is leftist propaganda all the time.

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phydeaux994

Leftist Propaganda = The Truth

Radical Right Rhetoric = Lies, Lies, Lies, and more Lies.

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Greg F

Piddle, I have more morals in my middle finger that is pointing at trump than the entire GOP senate. How many hours of ethics courses have you ever taken? Some of us have over 100 easily...and Given its a requirement for all government employees, I’d bet that somehow trump missed the classes entirely as did all of his cronies. If he did show, that must have been him in the corner on the stool with his dunce cap on. Which President lies to banks on his worth depending on which bank and what he wanted? Hint...starts last name with a Tband has a bad hairdo.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@PDL

and that is exactly what they (George and the dems) want you think...though I can see it went right over the heads it was meant to go over, a lot like my comments go over CD's head.

phydeaux994

piddle, read my 12:31 p.m. comment below. Just substitute piddle for tony when you read it and answer the questions. Thanks. Peace. ✌️

pdl603

Dawgdew, your comments are laughable.

Greg F

Piddle I hope trump has such clever retorts at the debate tonight. He will shine bright like a black light bulb.

olefool

Bring on the debates, please... Joe will eat Trump's lunch and uncover the fraud that Trump really is, can you believe this; a tax refund of $73M and paying no taxes in almost all the past 20 years... Alas, earns more than a million dollars in the past two years but only pays $1500. My daughter earned less than $60,000 and paid three times that much.. Go figure...

tonyc51

In the same spirit as the LTE, I offer this response:

[yawn][yawn][yawn]

PurplePickles aka L&M

@tonyc51

Understandable your response, when you have to post something but find out you have nothing. Shouldn't you take that as a sign?

phydeaux994

tony51, you STILL don’t care about America? You don’t care who OWNS Trump because he owes them MILLIONS of dollars? It can’t be legitimate American financial sources, they stopped lending to crooks long ago. You don’t CARE about that? What do you CARE about? The ruin that Trump has brought to our Country? The HATE and RACISM and VILIFICATION of the majority of American citizens who didn’t vote for him?? Why do you continue to 🖤LOVE🖤 him despite the devastating facts that are revealed about him day after day? Say it ain’t so tonyc51!!!

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bosco

Did he make a puddle this time?

I'm glad GregF changed his avatar - makes it easier to keep scrolling by. His rants are like the crazy old uncle at family reunions - they just put him in the corner and ignore him.

Notice what an angry bunch the LLBTT has been lately?

[ninja]

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phydeaux994

CD, read my 12:31 p.m. comment. Just substitute CD for tony when you read it and answer the questions. Thanks. Peace. ✌️

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Greg F

Gee CD...you look so uneducated when you get posting. Hardly cute at all.

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phydeaux994

bosco, there you are!! I thought maybe you had finally had enough and bailed. NOT!! Your definition of anger? 😂🤣😹🤡🥳I have to modify my prediction that he will resign. No more EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE = PRISON. His only out now is to defect to Russia.

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Greg F

Bonzo...don’t you have some fake news to watch somewhere? I’m sure someone will tell you Trump is a saint....and up is down. Go find them to coddle your pitiful self.

Greg F

That’s tony opening mouth to Insert foot.

PurplePickles aka L&M

Great letter and was probably written before yesterdays bombshell or the list would have been much longer. Looks like we got our October surprise a little early but rest assured there will surprises every day until the election. I wonder how many surprises the orange one is willing to endure until he just slinks off and resigns? His ego has been dealt a mighty blow by this bombshell. And he spent more on his hair than he did in taxes and the money wasn't even well spent..LOL

So let me add to your list if I may.

Trump Holds $421 Million In Debt, Could Owe IRS $100 Million In Penalties, Times Says

The bombshell report detailed the president’s large debt and his increased reliance on controversial businesses he’s refused to divest.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-debt-irs-421-million_n_5f7117c8c5b61af20e776eb5

Here’s how Trump’s losing golf courses could be linked to foreign money laundering

On Monday, in a series of tweets, NPR reporter Adam Davidson drew a straight line from the New York Times report about President Donald Trump’s taxes and business losses, to his apparent dealings with foreign entities known for money laundering.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/heres-how-trumps-losing-golf-courses-could-be-linked-to-foreign-money-laundering/

‘This is the smoking gun’: Carl Bernstein claims Trump’s taxes expose his ‘grifter presidency’

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/this-is-the-smoking-gun-carl-bernstein-claims-trumps-taxes-expose-his-grifter-presidency/

‘That makes him a mark’: Trump biographer reveals president’s debt far worse than $421 million

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/that-makes-him-a-mark-trump-biographer-reveals-presidents-debt-far-worse-than-421-million/

Trump’s Massive Hairstyling Bill Revealed In NYT Bombshell Tax Report

The president reportedly paid a lot more for his hair than he did in taxes.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hair-cost_n_5f714792c5b64deddeefae00

pdl603

Wow pickles, what a compilation of left leaning garbage publications. The times published the same headline just before the last election. [yawn][yawn][yawn][yawn]

PurplePickles aka L&M

@pdl

And your point is what exactly? Did you read my response to tonyc? If not I will restate it just for you my friend.

I understand your response, you just had to post something but then you search through your thoughts and find out you have nothing, shouldn't you take as a sign?

Have you noticed PDL that I always have something to post?

Greg F

So...piddle..you'd complain about past headlines? That doesn't lessen their value or what they meant back then...in fact they amplify the value because they are the same now as then in impact....as we all know what a corrupt POS that trump is.

Greg F

Piddle is that you opening wide to eat a bag of ads?

Greg F

Piddle...is that you opening wide to eat a bag of Ds? Looks so.

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Greg F

You CAN fool some of the people all of the time. Those people are Trump supporters. That's why con men and snake-oil salesmen are still around, and TV evangelists still show up on Sunday TV begging for money while they live in mansions themselves.

awteam2000

Well said.

Blueline

George - the world needs more people with your wit. How about a couple of bars of He Stopped Loving Her Today?

Berryman

This "non-post" is both a terrific example of fnp biased editorial policy, and a cry to turn off cnnmsnbc. I believe that I can help the sheltered mis-educated aurhor here:

Trump Administration Accomplishments

*Almost 4 million jobs created since election.

*More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.

*We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.

*Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.

*Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.

*New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.

*Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

*African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

*Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.

*Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

*Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.

*Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.

*Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.

*Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

*Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

*The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.

*95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

*Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.

*Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.

*As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

*Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

*Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.

*Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.

*Record number of regulations eliminated.

Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

*Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.

*My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.

*Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.

*We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.

*Signed Right-To-Try legislation.

Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.

*We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.

*Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

*Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.

*United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

*Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.

*Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

*Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.

*NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.

*Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.

*Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.

*Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

*Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

*Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.

*Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court.

*Issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay.

*Concluded a historic U.S.-Mexico Trade Deal to replace NAFTA. And negotiations with Canada are underway as we speak.

*Reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports.

*Imposed tariffs on foreign steel and aluminum to protect our national security.

*Imposed tariffs on China in response to China’s forced technology transfer, intellectual property theft, and their chronically abusive trade practices.

*Net exports are on track to increase by $59 billion this year.

*Improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement.

*We have begun BUILDING THE WALL.

*Republicans want STRONG BORDERS and NO CRIME. Democrats want OPEN BORDERS which equals MASSIVE CRIME.

olefool

These allegations must have been the writer's dreams months ago, these are not the world we are living in now. I don't see any mention of the Covid 19 death rates, or the thousands of underage kids rotting in concentration camps along our southern border, or the thousands of lies about anything. I could go on. C'mon Berryman, if you want to be respected, you gotta be respectable.... and in this regard you fail miserably.

Greg F

Looks like you cut and pasted last week's BS that has already been debunked. Your guy is now fully outed as trash. Utter trash. No wonder he wanted to hide his taxes.

Hayduke2

Please quit the copy and paste routine. One could go thru the list and repudiate 90% of the claims and dispute the wisdon of the other 10%. But you know that and refuse to deal with it in a factual manner. Sad

MD1756

You include "*Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan."

You are wrong on a number of counts:
First the clean power plan was not illegal.
Second, the EPA under Wheeler (who formerly was a lobbyist who lobbied for coal companies) changed how environmental benefits were calculated and did so in a way where actual benefits of a regulation of program . Benefits from pollution reduction now cannot be counted if it wasn't the main intention of the program or regulation even though it is a direct result of the regulation/program. For example, in the technology used in reducing CO2 emissions would also reduce other harmful pollutants and therefore reduce health costs associated with exposure to those other chemicals and it would reduce premature deaths associated with those other pollutants but now those benefits while real cannot be counted when doing the cost benefit analysis.
Third, why would you object to an entity having to clean up after itself and not emit pollution that negatively impacts people on property that the entity does not own? That would be like allowing me to throw trash on your property with no consequence to me as long as I make a profit from my activity (i.e., charge to collect trash and then dispose of it on your property without paying you for that impact to you).

Similarly your statement about your "*Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord." example.

Beyond my previous statements, for the true costs of using fossil fuel see: https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/hidden-costs-fossil-fuels where it is estimated that "an average economic cost (or “public health added cost”) of 32 cents per kWh for coal, 13 cents per kWh for oil, and 2 cents per kWh for natural gas just from SO2 and NOx emissions to the air. Those are costs you don't see on your electric bill because energy companies have been able to avoid controlling a lot of their pollution.

Beyond that, the price of energy from renewable resources has been decreasing and can now compete with fossil fuel sources ( the prices are much better than fossil fuel sources if you consider all of the costs direct and indirect). The only job loss will be in existing fossil fuel sectors but will go up elsewhere. Wealth would be spread from just a few major oil companies, cola companies etc. to many more companies and employees. A planned switch over would be a great benefit to the economy. On a personal level, because of the changes I've made, I use resource on my own property to supplu most of my energy needs (12.3kW solar system and geothermal heating/cooling where my well water is also used to heat and cool my house).

Trump has a terrible record on holding polluters accountable.

Dwasserba

And he's driven sane people to extraordinary lengths to prove their undying fealty to their lord.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@Dwasserba

These people were never actually sane( no sane person would have voted for Trump in the first election) and I enjoy watching insane people twist themselves into oddly shaped pretzels, it has got to be painful.

phydeaux994

Once again, this is the list put out by the White House long ago and used by jsk to show what DJ Trump has allegedly done, although unverified. Berryman didn’t come up with the list and actually many of the items would not be considered accomplishments at all by a majority of Americans. Is Berryman jsk, who seems to have disappeared from the Forum.

threecents

Isn't Berryman the Blaine fawn who worked at HHGregg?

shiftless88

"Almost 4 million jobs created since election." This means he is almost halfway to Obama's final 3.5 years in office! You consider this an accomplishment?

pdl603

Berryman, the same group of elitist losers commenting with have baked and flat out lies. I feel so sorry for them.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@PDL

Then by all means share the true about Trump, No one is stopping you...but remember it needs to be the truth.........

Also feel free to point out our lies. I am actually thinking about baking a coffee cake tonight. You want the recipe?

pdl603

See Berryman’s list, all true.

Greg F

Which are lies piddle? Please share. (Crickets)

Hayduke2

Hey, did you see the 60 minutes story on the scam wall and how Trump gave a contract to a fellow con man? Yeah, that is some bragging point.

Greg F

Qualities you count on and ensure consistency: Everything out of his mouth is a lie. Everything he does is to directly or indirectly provide financial benefit for himself, his family or his wealthy friends. He will deflect any responsibility for anything. He will say something, and as soon as an hour later, say he never said it...even if that was caught on tape and camera. If there's a pageant with underage teens...he will walk in on the naked girls in the dressing room and brag about it later. When it involves a donation, whatever the cause, he's all for it. If it's got to do with science, he doesn't understand any of it and will actively contradict whatever that science advises. He will stoop to new lows for a photo op. He will do anything to hide his tax situation, even stating he's being audited (now going on 4 years...surely a record audit for any agency). His followers will suck up every word and think it's coming from a genius, so long as it is the message they want to hear. He will say anything to get his followers to stick around...including, of course, lie....lie about the lies and lie to cover up the lies. So redeeming.

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