In Rick Blatchford’s Oct. 29 column “Trump vs. Biden: Comparing their records,” I thought the mention of Joe Biden’s law school rank was a cheap shot.

But it reminded me of the old joke: What do you call someone who graduates last in their medical school class?

“Doctor”

Debbie Wagner

Frederick

(41) comments

gary4books

Gosh!

Reader1954

its not about where he placed but the fact that he lied about it.

phydeaux994

Trump lies about EVERYTHING Reader1954 and you ❤️ him???? ‘splain that to me.

CriticalReader

Reader1954, your comment is spot on. It was Biden who introduced the lie about his academic law school standing. This was big news back in 1987. After he admitted to exaggerating his academic record and plagiarizing speeches, he was pressured to drop out of the 1988 presidential race. Most of the other comments in this section seem to overlook the fact that Biden's lie is what mattered, and why pointing out the lie is not a cheap shot. Politifact published a more recent review of this history because it appears in campaign ads:

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/may/07/ad-watch-fact-checking-video-about-bidens-academic/

You almost have to admire Biden's chutzpah for doubling down on the lie when he stated, "I exaggerate when I'm angry, 'but I've never gone around telling people things that aren't true about me." If only we could all dismiss our dishonesty so easy.

gary4books

After a year with the infantry in Vietnam, I got back to my University education and finished my undergraduate degree. With the GI Bill, it was the first time I went to school without working to pay for it. I made all A's and graduated in the top of my class. Was I any smarter than when I flunked out? No. Just less busy and more focused on my classes. Many graduate with lower standings and that does not mean so much to me. If they met the requirements for a degree they graduated from that school and were just as good as those who had more time to study. Biden's class standing has less meaning to me than a list of what he did after he graduated. And that was significant. An education is a skill set. Not an honor.

dtwigg

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bosco

Custer was last in his class at West Point. That didn't work out so well. [scared][ninja]

C.D.Reid

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][lol]

Greg F

Custer would have been a republican for sure.

C.D.Reid

Is that a fact, Doctor Greggy? Maybe if you did a little research you'd find that he was a Democrat. So much for that [worthless] opinion.

public-redux

Of course, Dems were on the right of the political spectrum back then. The Republicans were the big-gubbermint, free-spending, shake up the status quo party.

C.D.Reid

@PurplePickles/Snowflake

And what evidence was there that it was a joke? When someone posts something they intend to be humorous, it's common practice to indicate in some way that the intent is just that, to be humorous. Like writing "LOL" after it, or including a LOL emoji, etc. I'm not a mind reader, even though with you reading your mind is like reading a first grade primer.

Greg F

Hey CD..you gaslight again...we all know the democrats and republicans flipped...except you. Republicans now are conservatives. Democrats were not. SO, to clarify, you may be ok to say he was a democrat, though in saying that, a conservative of the day who in today's terms is a REPUBLICAN. God man will you ever say or do anything not shady? Every word out of you is a pile of excrement.

bosco

Doctor Fed Up GregF sez...." Every word out of you is a pile of excrement."

That's really precious coming from the chief poo slinger on the FNP. Still looking in the mirror when you type, GregF?

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olefool

Nope, he was a Dixiecrat.... The forerunners of today's GOP and QAnon...

MD1756

Grant graduated 21st our of 39 (hardly a stellar academic career), but that didn't really matter now did it? He made mistakes but in general he understood what it took to win and did it. At some point in time, experience is at least as important (and sometimes more important) than a formal education. Ask Sheriff Jenkins.

Having said the above I can't understand someeone who thinks only Biden lies and ignores the massive lies of the Donald Trump administration. If Trump were really for the individual Americans he would not roll back environmental protections and skew the legitimate cost/benefit analyses to skew them to raising the costs above the benefits and completely ignoring the concept of trespassing with chemicals (allowing their wastes to harm others are water and land). He believes he is for American businesses (and I believe it) but his tactics have harmed them rather than helped them where it involved trade wars. As an example, look at what the trade war did for Harley-Davidson.

C.D.Reid

Well, Ms. Wagner, maybe it never would have been brought up if he hadn't lied through his teeth about being "in the top half" of his graduating class instead of almost at the rock bottom of it where he really was. Ever think about that, or does thinking make your head hurt?

shiftless88

So NOW you are concerned about someone embellishing their school records. Say, where are Trump's transcripts, anyway?

C.D.Reid

Shift, I don't know how the hell you get that "NOW I'm concerned about someone embellishing their school records" with my comment. I couldn't care less about Biden's record. The intent of my reply to the writer was only that his record may have never been an issue if the man hadn't LIED about it. Got it? Jeesh..... you people go on and on about Trump lying, yet not one word about all of Biden's lies. Why is that, shift?

phydeaux994

you people??? What is the difference between YOU and “you people” CD? Anybody not born and raised in Frederick County with your inborn anger and resentment and jealousy?

C.D.Reid

No, fido, "you people," as in you Trump haters. Duh!!! [lol][lol]

bosco

There's plenty of footage of Biden lying about his credentials and schools attended. Have you found similar footage of Trump doing the same thing?

Just sayin'

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Greg F

There's lots of the same binky about Trump and his credentials....especially those he provided to banks when wanting loans and to the tax people when wanting deductions. We will find that out in court at some point to just what extent that was. He also lied about having a health care plan, other than to destroy it.

phydeaux994

Trump has ordered all of his school Records to be closed. Like his Tax forms and his Medical Reports and Melania’s and her parents immigration records and the estimates of the size of his Inauguration crowd. And also the records of his private calls with Vladimir Putin that should have been monitored as part of his Presidential record. It’s certainly possible that Trump has misrepresented some of that information, ya’ think?

dtwigg

Yes. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/25/trump-intelligence-ivy-league-education-media-false-image-244167 “I was a nice student. I did very well. I’m a very intelligent person."

jerseygrl42

this isn't about Trump; its about Biden being a liar...on many issues...Get it?

phydeaux994

“many issues”....name them and your evidence to back it up jerseyboy666. Fat chance of that huh?? You are all TALK 🗣 no WALK🚶

bosco

Fido, take GregF's advice and "get a map and google it" and you'll find a plethora of Biden's tall tales and flip flops. Enough to keep you busy the rest of the day.

Remember what I've been saying here for years "You can always tell when a politician is lying - his lips are moving"

Time to rake some leaves........

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Greg F

Jerseycow..you want your pot calling the kettle black, you got it. Trump has lied for decades about practically everything, and many things that have screwed people over for MILLIONS of dollars, directly hurt them financially, and in fact, have KILLED THEM by spouting lies and misinformation about the virus. Go take a walk off a cliff.

C.D.Reid

"Go take a walk off a cliff." And we have yet another very profound, intelligent, thoughtful and insightful piece of garbage from the biggest piece of garbage who posts here. I'm sure fido is quite proud of you again, Doctor Greggy.

dtwigg

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Dwasserba

Apparrntly a good-natured letter deserves a snotty reply.

JerryR

Cause Bidenz a Ding Dong. As a 47 year swamp rat, his brain is now officially mush. Can you say..."Badakathcare"? Hahaha!!

Greg F

Jerry-can, I think when you call someone a dingdong, you must be looking into a mirror.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@Greg F

Shhhh Jerry R is looking in a mirror. We found much like a bird that when Jerry R looks in a mirror he thinks he has a friend so feel less lonely and it calms him when he gets overly excited. But he is indeed seeing himself when he looks in the mirror..LOL

bosco

Doctor Fed Up GregF, got any mirrors in your house? You sure dont hold back on the name calling and derision, so you must be looking in the mirror as well.

[ninja]

JerryR

GregF - get a job!!

C.D.Reid

Calling someone mention of Biden's low, low rank in his graduating class "a cheap shot" is a "good-natured letter?" I think the "cheap shot" crack was snotty in itself.

phydeaux994

Who cares what you think CD? It’s always wrong! BTW CD, What are the main two reasons you support Trump. 1) .......? 2) .......? His hair? His personality? His intelligence? His smile? Just two CD, should be simple. His likability maybe?

C.D.Reid

Gee fido, I just luv it when you get pi$$ed, it's so cute! [lol][lol][lol]

Greg F

Is it really worse than a fraud university from Trump? He defrauded hundreds, if not thousands of people for TP-value degrees.

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