It was late February, and my sister, who’s a Johns Hopkins graduate student studying immunology, sent me an article in Facebook messenger about the CDC confirming the first possible case of community transmission of COVID-19 in the United States, and her exact words were, “It’s definitely coming for us.”

I remember feeling sort of taken aback by her words, in disbelief, at even attempting to contemplate the idea of this mysterious new virus that’s wreaking havoc halfway around the world, from ever becoming a serious threat to life and livelihood here in the United States. I mean, Contagion was just a movie right?

And yet, here we are, and for most of us, it felt like all the excitement and enthusiasm we had for 2020, and a new decade, evaporated along with millions of jobs and trillions of dollars, all within three short weeks. Our nation is now in the midst of a crisis truly unprecedented that few of us saw coming that rivals the direct impact 9/11 had, and is really akin to the kind of national involvement Pearl Harbor and World War II had on us.

“The World is quieter now. We just have to listen. If we listen, we can hear God’s plan.” Timely words in light of the times we are living in, spoken ironically from the 2007 Will Smith film, “I Am Legend.” I don’t pretend to give a theological pronouncement on why God has allowed the coronavirus. The Bible is clear that the breaking of our perfect relationship with our Creator in Paradise resulted in a curse that turned the world more upside down than in Stranger Things. God has a habit throughout history of conforming chaos, crisis and confusion to His ultimate ends, and that involves interrupting our lives to get our attention, and to beckon our hearts to give Him room. And, while we don’t know why God has specifically allowed this, I do believe we can know what He is saying to us in this: Be Still and Know I Am God (Psalm 46:10).

What if God is reminding us through this pandemic that if our nation and our lives are built on Him, our foundation will be firm and secure, enabling us to weather any storm that we face while any other foundation we attempt to trust in and rely on will turn out to be sinking sand? What if God is using this crisis to force our political leaders to effectively work together to serve as a reminder that united we stand, but divided we fall? What if God is reminding us during this time of economic stress that He is our source of provision and that everything we have or ever will have is ultimately from Him? Maybe God is having us reclassify what jobs are truly essential for our society to function, because the truth is we were able to get by without March Madness, without the NBA, sports, concerts and movie theaters, but we can’t get by without the health care professionals, scientists, truckers, trash collectors, grocery workers, postal workers, police, military, etc.

“Family comes first!” cried an emotional Adam Sandler in the film, “Click,” and perhaps God is crying out the same thing to us by having us spend more time together at home with our families, because our homes are the true pillars of our society, and loving, intact homes in America are on the endangered species list. The Greatest Generation embodied true national selfless sacrifice and perhaps our generation is having an, “Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country” moment by being inconvenienced and giving up some freedoms for the sake of saving lives. Jesus said for us to love our neighbor as ourselves, but we’ve been better at loving ourselves than loving our neighbor.

What if God allowed church doors to close to remind believers and non-believers alike that the church has never been about a building, that true biblical Christianity has never been about religion, and that true spiritual revival comes from a renewed hunger for a real relationship with God through Jesus Christ? Perhaps God is asking you and I to stop doing life without Him, and instead to try living life for Him. To stop going through the motions of life, and to truly live life to the fullest. To stop worrying about tomorrow, but instead to live in today. Maybe God is saying to us through this that instead of carrying the weight of the burdens and cares we carry, we can let Him carry us and cast all our cares on Him, because He cares, a lot, for you and for me.

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only son. That whoever believes in Him shall not perish, have eternal life.” (John 3:16) God loves this world, and even now is pursuing us. On a hill there were three crosses about 2,000 years ago, and the Son of God was killed on one of them, for you, and for me, making the ultimate sacrifice that we might be redeemed and forgiven. Have you seen the tomb where his body was? It’s empty today, and do you know what that means? It means there’s hope. Not wishful thinking hope, but sure hope. Hope for today and hope for tomorrow. Hope for America, because the only real hope for all our social ills, all our political dysfunction, and all of our hatred and division is Jesus Christ and relationship with Him.

As the weeks pile on in this “lockdown” or “quarantine” along with all the funny memes on social media capturing this experience, the big question on everyone’s minds are, when will life go back to normal? Eventually, this outbreak will recede, and we will be able to leave the house, businesses will recover. But will we ever really be “normal” again? My wife and I were just recently talking about how this experience may stay with us, and change us, and while a sense of normalcy may and probably will eventually return to our society, in some ways, I pray we are never “normal” again. While this has been an inconvenience for most of us, and worse for others, I do believe in the midst of it all, someone is using this to get our attention, and if we don’t take advantage of this opportunity to do spiritual course correction individually and nationally, we may not get another chance, until it’s too late and we’ve reverted back to tuning out His voice again.

“That they should seek God, in the hope that they might feel their way towards Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us”- Acts 17:27.

Pastor Stephen Mitchell is the Senior Pastor at Trinity Bible Church in Severna Park, Maryland. He is also the author of Taking A Stand In Our Dying Land and has spoken in various churches and retreats. He is a native of Frederick.

(156) comments

llrowse

Whether you believe Jesus is divine, or whether you don’t, historically, something happened the day that Jesus was born. He has made a profound change in our world. He has given people hope where none existed. He offered the hope of a better place after death. He offered a release from living a miserable existence. His hope has given people strength to travel through their life, and do the right thing. His simple instructions were to love thy neighbor. He didn’t call for religious wars, heinous acts in His name, or feel hatred for someone who is different, or had acted in a way that offends. Love thy neighbor. Whether you believe in His divinity or not. His short presence in the world, changed it. Love thy neighbor. It’s the right thing to do.

The Grape of Wrath

I see God is giving his usual Spring Break speech in the South this fine Easter day by whipping up some tornadoes to flatten buildings and kill the unfaithful. Amazing how the unfaithful seem to be concentrated in the South. That must be where good Christian church-going fornicators, drunkards and liars abound, for God speaks to them in the same voice every Spring.

public-redux

Today is also National Grilled Cheese Day and Walk On Your Wild Side Day.

The former is self-explanatory. The latter was created in recognition that ‘what other people will think’ is the stupidest reason not to do something, and rather denotes a lack of courage.

Happy celebrations, everyone!

public-redux

I decided to combine the festivities. I made a grilled cheese sandwich with bleu cheese and roasted beets. Drizzled a little balsamic on it.

rikkitikkitavvi

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Round two!

Obadiah Plainsmen

It’s funny when public gets defensive. As Howard Cosell shouted less than two minutes into the fight “down goes Frazier”,”down goes Frazier”

rikkitikkitavvi

I prefer that the entire "group" of haters here get defensive. Waaaaay more fun!

threecents

Happy Easter and good will to all.

threecents

Rikk, Nobody could hate you. It would be like hating a yipping terrier.

phydeaux994

I agree three. I missed him while he was banned??? He rivals jsk as the Super Star Troller. He has some far out quips.

bosco

"It’s funny when public gets defensive. As Howard Cosell shouted less than two minutes into the fight “down goes Frazier”,”down goes Frazier”.... didn't he also shout "Look at that monkey run?"

Obadiah Plainsmen

He is Risen on this Resurrection Sunday, Be safe and our LORD will never leave you and will guide you through these dark days.

phydeaux994

"Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" is conscious and hardened opposition to the “TRUTH”. And it is the UNFORGIVABLE SIN that you and jsk practice. 👹🔥

bosco

Please explain for the heathens.

Captain Yossarian

priests wont get paid as much because of the coronavirus

Obadiah Plainsmen

So, Is there a monetary price for preaching the word of God? How much did the Apostles get paid?? Now if your a prosperity preacher such as Joel Olsteen, Paula White, Joyce Meyer then it’s all about the Benjamin’s.

They had day jobs.

Andrew, Peter, James and John, the sons of Zebedee, worked as fishermen. Thomas, Nathaniel and Philip may have also worked as fishermen. Matthew, called Levi in Luke, worked as a tax collector. Simon was a Zealot. Paul supported himself as a tent maker. Judas served as the treasurer in the Jesus’ band. The Bible provides no information on the professions of Philip, Bartholomew, Thomas, Thaddaeus or James, the son of Alphaeus.

llrowse

👍

Obadiah Plainsmen

Exactly they did not profit on teaching the good news of Jesus Christ.

Moon otter

That's cause Mary Magdalene his wife supported him and his group. Then she fled to France. She had a child there. Jesus was dead, dead.

Obadiah Plainsmen

There are a lot of Antichrist here today Jesus is not dead, he is alive.

Captain Yossarian

coronavirus defeated god

Moon otter

King virus defeats little god

public-redux

Happy Easter to those who celebrate it. Please stay safe. Endanger neither yourself nor others.

jsklinelga

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jsklinelga

Greatest man in history, had no servants, yet they called him Master. Had no degree, yet they called him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today. His name is Jesus. 🙏🏻😇

Moon otter

Yet those who followed were greedy and wanted power. The Crusades, the Burning Times, the list is endless. Oh brought diseases to the indigenous people (Hawaii) and rape their lands along the way. Oh if you didn't convert you were killed. Such a lovely religion.

prg45fan

WOW! Some people really know how to hijack a thread and make something sound so, so evil. The Dems are proud of that talent. It's served them well over the decades. Now, they aren't even hiding their demonic intentions for this country. All because, Orange, Man. Bad.The Final Battle between Good and Evil? I was always hoping I'd be able to take part in some small way. I'll just be sitting here. "Waiting For God". Great British Comedy. "Vicar of Dibley" was right cute too.

bosco

So FNP, are you going to give equal time for all religions to proselytize here? Even cults? Even those that sponsor terrorists?

public-redux

“ Even those that sponsor terrorists?”

Surely you meant the other religions that sponsor terrorists.

The Grape of Wrath

I think he means "Christian" abortion clinic bombers and doctor killers.

bosco

Pick one. The FNP has already covered Christianity (2.1 billion) The numbers are worldwide adherents.

Islam (1.3 billion)

Nonreligious (Secular/Agnostic/Atheist) (1.1 billion)

Hinduism (900 million)

Chinese traditional religion (394 million)

Buddhism 376 million

Primal-indigenous (300 million)

African traditional and Diasporic (100 million)

Sikhism (23 million)

Juche (19 million)

Spiritism (15 million)

Judaism (14 million)

Bahai (7 million)

Jainism (4.2 million)

Shinto (4 million)

Cao Dai (4 million)

Zoroastrianism (2.6 million)

Tenrikyo (2 million)

Neo-Paganism (1 million)

Unitarian-Universalism (800,000)

public-redux

I am reminded of Pascal’s Wager. Blaise Pascal suggested toProtestant Christians that they had nothing to lose and everything to gain by converting to Catholicism. He pointed out that if Catholicism was wrong, both Catholics and Protestants would simply cease to exist upon their demise. On the other hand, if Catholicism was correct, Protestants who converted to the RCC would be saved whilst those who did not would suffer the torments of hell for all eternity.

Obadiah Plainsmen

It’s been 2000 years when did Pascal say the demise would take place? All you have to do is look who the current Pope aka the false prophet is to find out where he will spend eternity.

public-redux

“Demise” referred to each person’s death. And Pascal did his work in the 1600s, not 2000 years ago.

It sounds as if you don’t regard Pascal’s Wager as sensible. Neither do I. Much like this LTE.

Obadiah Plainsmen

A couple of questions that everybody is afraid to ask. What if this is the end of America? What if the Economy collapses, what if the federal reserve note is devalued and countries refuse to honor it . All empires end is this the end of America? Nature abhors a vacuum and when God leaves this is what happens.

rikkitikkitavvi

We print U.S.notes. It's not what backs the money, it's who controls the quantity of the money. On another note, A Country Boy Can Survive, unless we're all gonna die of the chicom flu.

Obadiah Plainsmen

“I got a shotgun a rifle and a four-wheel drive

And a country boy can survive.”

rikkitikkitavvi

"We say Grace! We say Ma'am! If you ain't into that we don't give a dam!"

That’s your remedy for a pandemic virus 🦠? Guns and a four wheeler? Are you panicking? You can’t shoot or drive away from this enemy. It’s not a war over ”supply and demand”, Nobody is coming to take your last role of toilet paper or collection of Gene Autry memorabilia. The weapons of choice are mask, testing, social distancing, washing your hands , and preventive measures - like if you can working from home and of course not listening to Trump’s medical expertise. But I wouldn’t want to stand in your way of what you feel is best for you. Go for it.

Happy Easter 🐣.

Obadiah Plainsmen

👍

Obadiah Plainsmen

Easter is the pagan name for Resurrection Sunday. So you can have your Happy Easter and I’ll celebrate my Risen Lord on Resurrection Sunday.

Obadiah Plainsmen

Rik, don’t mind Aw, he’s the good friend from NYC who didn’t call us by our name, just hillbilly.

Let’s not forget to remember and pray for the 11 fatalities now in Frederick the 341 tested positive out of 1,250 tested so far in the county of 250 thousand and their families on “Resurrection Day”, also give a shout out to the 21,000 fatalities, their families and all the medical workers putting their lives and families at risk... don’t forget to mention the World’s loss of 108,000 in 4 plus months.

Obadiah Plainsmen

Will do, I pray for all the victims and healthcare workers and I pray for our leaders also.

rikkitikkitavvi

No aw, it's not for the virus. It's for the Zombies that come out after dark. Geeeez, don't you know anything? If this keeps up it will be a war of attrition which is, anybody? I can't see my last roll of toilet paper yet. Maybe in another six months. See, I stocked up on TP during the time of plenty. Along with silver, lead, brass etc. You get the picture right? Those that fail to prepare ARE preparing to fail. Those are words to live by. Nope, no Gene. Got a bunch of common baseball cards though. Wanna buy a Ken Griffey Jr. rookie card? Near mint condition. It's not time yet aw. All the pieces are yet to be in their proper positions. There are a LOT of moving parts. Keep an eye on the China Sea.

Moon otter

OP hate to burst your bubble but Easter is not a pagan holiday, never was. Pagans celebrate Ostara which is the Spring Equinox, Next will be Beltane May 1. Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the full moon after the spring equinox. They can't even get a correct day for his death. Also he wasn't born in December either.

Obadiah Plainsmen

otter, Easter is the Anglicization of the name of the Babylonian fertility goddess Ishtar. It has nothing to do with Christianity, and it has nothing to do with the Lord’s resurrection. Romans and Greeks superimposed these pagan traditions over Resurrection Sunday and Christmas. Now the LORD was crucified on the Jewish month of Nisan 14 that date never changes. Resurrection Sunday is always the Sunday after Passover. They did the same thing with Christmas by the way, you know that. The feast of Saturnalia, Christmas was just superimposed on top of that in December at the winter solstice. And so both Christmas and Easter had their origins in these pagan religions, and they just superimposed the Christianity on top of it.

Good Friday is also a tradition, Jesus was crucified on a Thursday Morning. 3 days and 3 nights.

Jesus Birthday is Rosh Hashanah, all of this is explained in the Bible if people would just take the time to study it.

Moon otter

OP that is what I told you. They have no idea when he was born nor died. So they took the pagan holidays in hope to convert the pagans and if you didn't convert they killed you. Such a lovely bunch of hypocrites

Moon otter

go back to the gold standard.

public-redux

That’s what the leprechaunists want. The gold standard is the very basis of their faith. It can be pretty darn tedious listening to them go on and on about their faith.

Moon otter

Ain't the end of the world as we know it.

Obadiah Plainsmen

So otter , Trump is doing a good job and won’t destroy America?

public-redux

No and no. The two questions are independent.

Obadiah Plainsmen

Thank you Otter???

public-redux

There should have been a comma after “you”.

Moon otter

OP No T rump has made a major mess of everything and he will be done. It will take a democrat to fix it. Remember there is half of us population-wise that will fix it, the mess you have created.

Obadiah Plainsmen

Keep that prediction and get back with me in about 3 years.

Moon otter

OP won't have to wait three years this November.

Moon otter

OP The Jewish Christians at the time put his death at the time of Passover which was set as I just mentioned earlier. If a person dies on certain day don't you think you would pick that date. Nope this follows with the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring Equinox. Hence its movement with Passover. Which you would think you'd keep it the same dates. Christmas falls just shortly after the winter solstice, The new Roman pagan god Sol Invictus "unconquered god" came about in AD 237 just shortly after that, is when Christmas came into being through Constantine the Emperor. Up to that point the early Christians celebrated only two religious holidays Epiphany and the Resurrection at or near Passover. As far as his birth he was actually born in the early-mid summer. Constantine picked the date the December 25 in hoping to covert the pagans to Christianity. Pagan holiday was Yule and was the winter solstice. There is your history brief.

PleaseVoteMore

Oh come off it. Now isn't the time for more crazy it's the time for reasoned responses to a crisis which can be managed. Most religious people aren't like this anymore for good reason. Believe in your God but trust in the scientific method. God did not choose to kill thousands on thousands for a lesson anymore than he gives innocent children cancer or abusive parents. Leave the archaic vengeful God junk to the grifters. People are losing their loved ones right now this is in poor taste.

mrnatural1

Well said PleaseVoteMore. [thumbup]

Moon otter

Not according to the evangelical right wingers. Bible thumpers as my Dad use to call them. My Dad was a UCC minister. Sad thing is some of the RCers and Presbys are just as bad.

d1234

So God has created chaos by killing over a hundred thousand people, letting them die a horrendously painful lonely death where their family members can't be with them while they die. And He's done all of this to bring back together the family unit? These families can't grieve together over their loss. Can't hold a proper funeral. Thanks for convincing me He doesn't exist!

rikkitikkitavvi

I'm sure you all will enjoy this Golden Oldie.

Matthew 6:5-6

5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

public-redux

Followed, just two verses later in that text, by what is probably the most commonly publicly recited prayer in churches. Ironic.

rikkitikkitavvi

Made you look! nanananana

public-redux

Made me look? Dear, dear rikki, I know that by heart.

Moon otter

kinda of like you pontificating.

bosco

Check out I Timothy 5:23.

rikkitikkitavvi

I do not believe a little wine will alleviate the severity within TDS afflicted communities in this day and age. Maybe some Pappy Van Winkle.

Moon otter

just some ole good apple moonshine made by the light of the moon.

The Grape of Wrath

Reads like a line from "Blazing Saddles".

olefool

Administration officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe internal deliberations, say the White House has made a deliberate political calculation that it will better serve Trump’s interest to put the onus on governors — rather than the federal government — to figure out how to move ahead.

rikkitikkitavvi

[offtopic][ban] Every city is supposed to have an emergency plan. Just like every county and every State. It works UP fool. The city, then county, then the State. Redundancy is the key. When they all FAIL to accommodate their citizens needs, The Government THEN assists. This was a systematic failure from the onset. Starting with the CCP and the WHO's delay in admitting that there was a PROBLEM. But no, let's blame it all on Trump. Get a life outside of your cognizant dissonance over that shrew losing fool. You may enjoy life more. MAGA 2020!

threecents

When there is a national emergency like this, where every state is having shortages, the federal government needs to lead and allocate essential resources to where they are most needed. That is not happening enough, so states are bidding against each other and contacting suppliers in other countries. It is a mess. I am not saying it is only Trump's fault, but he keeps claiming everything is fine or blaming the states for not doing things the federal government should be doing.

rikkitikkitavvi

I need a break down of that comment. Start at the beginning. Do you mean EVERY State in this entire country had a shortage of needed resources or do you mean every State that is a major hub for International travel? Hmmmm. Or do you mean the major cities in every State that is a major hub for International travel having shortages? THAT is when the other cities and States needed to volunteer assistance. Working together as United States. See if you can handle it from that point.

Rik, is right... No-one is looking for Trump to address the crisis he’s only the ‘head of state’. It’s not his job to fight a foreign invader... My bad it is. But, no-one believes he can or has the “wear with all” to lead a federal program to fight against a world pandemic, let a lone the national health security risk. He’s totally incompetent, Irresponsible and irrelevant. But don’t worry, On Monday, Mike Pence will praise Trump on his “great leadership and guidance in a national emergency holding a sign first saying “ shelter in place till Easter” , now sayin’ shelter in play till April 30th. Other cronies will agree. Trump will follow by blaming everyone he can think of for the catastrophe, fighting with the press and bringing up some bogies issue. He will share how smart he is and (matrix's like response) . Followed by his medical diagnosis. Typically unfounded and totally wrong. Some one should stop Trump before press briefings from saying things that are factually wrong - “antibiotics” destroys bacteria, not viruses. Rik will believe him though, not understanding antibiotics from antibodies.

We are now the worlds leader in Coronavirus deaths. Trump will probably compare in to the flu, cancer or car accidents.🤦‍♂️

Guess what? Today is the first day the whole country is under a disaster emergency. I guess it snuck up on us.

rikkitikkitavvi

Need to run interference for your other personality on here aw? But since you asked my opinion I'll share it with you. If China "invaded" the United States the dems would demand that we call it Liberation and argue that calling it a Chinese invasion was racist and the fake news media would follow that narrative to the bitter end.

rikkitikkitavvi

"Reported " deaths aw. Keep that in mind. China is continuing the BIG lie with the WHO"s support.

Rik, That’s interesting, everyone is lying - Italy, Spain, France, England, Germany Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea and all 182 countries suffering from the Coronavirus virus, they all are lying 🤥, except for Trump. Wow, 20,000 American deaths in 5 weeks. We are now the leader in deaths by country in the world.

Trump has moved from “it’s a hoax” to “ everything is under control”, only 15 death going down to zero, soon. Only 3 weeks ago - surely it will be down to the zero within weeks followed by expressing the government will be open by Easter, the churches will be full, it will be lovely. Then he made a complete reversal - we should consider it a victory if only 100,000 to 240,000 die. Trump changed his mind over a weekend from ‘no big deal’ to a quarter of 1 million people will die in America from this virus, all in within the next several months...Today, the federal government has finally declared a “national emergency”. Like Trump didn’t know. Was he the last one to find out? He should have followed the FNP comment threads. We were arguing over mass testing and containment two months ago, if not earlier. If you don’t remember your earlier comments are all documented on the FNP website.

No, he simply wasn’t up to the crisis. Some countries have stepped up excepted responsibility, admitting they didn’t respond fast enough or failed to do Mass testing and social distancing soon enough. Others are still blaming it on others. Those, happen to be the countries with a higher mortality rate. Like the USA in the lead.

I would send you a site with those figures but you wouldn’t want to see them and probably wouldn’t understand them. Which reinforces your earlier argument that you don’t have high expectations for Trump “ It’s up to local government and governors to lead use to victory.”Not the “Commander in chief”, not Trump, he’s not up to the task.

Happy Easter. I guess the Lord does act in mysterious ways.

Maybe, Trump will pay his condolences to all the lost lives and their families to the, medical service providers, all those to help you and me, to all those following the guidelines to prevent more casualties rather then praising himself for once . Easter would be so appropriate, tomorrow across the air. That would be a miracle!

rikkitikkitavvi

3:7. Not bad but could be better. [whistling]

olefool

There's not 100,000 people dead because Trump "fixed" it when he had the opportunity,they're dead because he didn't "fix" anything, on purpose.. When he realized his cluster faq he tries to blame every one else.... No spin here...

MD1756

Aweteam, instead of looking at the raw number of deaths, you need to compare them to the percentage of the population and you'll see we don't lead the world on a percentage basis. Do the math, you'll see (actually I'll do it for you for the first few). Of course we'll be high up on the list when you look at raw numbers because we're ranked #3 in world population behind China and India. As far as China is concerned, 1) I don't know that I would believe China's numbers and 2) their centralized government has a much better ability to force solutions on their population. As far as India is concerned, it's been documented that they are way behind on testing so their numbers may not mean much. Spain currently ranks 2nd for Covid cases but it ranks 30th for percentage of the world's population (0.36% of their population has been confirmed for covid). Italy ranks 3rd for confirmed covid cases but ranks 23rd in total population (0.25% confirmed covid). France ranks 4th for covid cases yet it ranks 22nd for total population (0.20% for covid). Finally while the US ranks first for covid cases it ranks 3rd for total population (0.16% of the population confirmed with covid). Therefore, it is clear that even with our problems and lots of international travel we are currently not in the worst shape for dealing with the issue.

threecents

Rikk, here's a reference that explains the concept of "every state". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_States

rikkitikkitavvi

Classifications between dying "with" or dying "of" is going to play heck with the death toll also. I suspect there will be instances of "He drowned in the pool". Person tests positive for the CCP virus and another death attributed to the virus by the liberals.

olefool

Mr. tavi: Either you're forgetting or you choose to obfuscate these words; "ONLY I CAN FIX IT".... Well, instead of fixing this issue all DJT ever did was make it much, much worse by his dalliances and ego trips, all of which are continuing to date. When in reality he was never able to fix anything in his life other than possibly the election of 2016, but of course he needed the help of his Russian puppet master for that. I hereby reiterate my original comment in this regard, which clearly proves that DJT is deflecting his misdeeds to others to further his political chances; they admitted it. There's blood on his hands, and vicariously, on the hands of all those who support him This wheel ain't spinning for you rikki or who ever you are...

rikkitikkitavvi

And you're forgetting the personality traits that got him elected. The sky is falling. The Russians are coming. Are you the one that came out and said you had video of Russian hookers peeing on Trump or was that a friend of yours? Enquiring minds want to know.

Moon otter

riki one of the tenets that you should believe in is one shouldn't lie. which is it? Your orange buffoon is a liar. When will you wake up, possibly when you are at the gates of Saint Peter and he asks you that question. You supported a liar.

Moon otter

Feds are suppose to lead in emergencies. Otherwise Red states hand in your federal dollars. Cause I am tired of us Northern States taking care of Southern States. You do realize that Red States receive more federal dollars than paid in to the coffers.

Hayduke2

Rikki is like Trump. Don't engage him and he withers away.

Moon otter

he resprouts like a bad weed. Need major herbicide

olefool

Got it hay!!

rikkitikkitavvi

threecents Apr 12, 2020 2:46pm

Rikk, here's a reference that explains the concept of "every state". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_States

Aw Please refer to my 1/11/20 post at 1:00PM Then to 2:41PM post of same day. This is your collectivist thinking. Remember, Individual Rights, Individual States, Fifty States with Individual State Votes. For further reference please refer to The Constitution. There are many examples within those hallowed pages. Happy Easter to one and all. With a side of chocolate bunny ears.

[tongue]

threecents

Rikk, Thanks for clearing things up for us. And thanks for the chocolate.

Hayduke2

Just like Jarad's statement about the supply of equipment and the subsiquent changing of the wording on the HHS site. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/03/jared-kushner-stands-trump-proceeds-offer-very-trumpian-claim-about-stockpiles/ How anyone can overlook that the Trump administration is concerned more about his electability than the general public is beyond me.

Piedmontgardener

The Pastor's thoughts about a new normal echo my own, but not in an exclusionary religious context. Given the multitude of beliefs and the existence of many non-believers, all I hope for is a more community of humanity world emerges from this time - where we all respect and acknowledge our common humanity and encourage and nurture each other along the way to creating a better world.

Happy Easter, Passover and Saturday. That should cover everyone.

Moon otter

Sorry mine was March 19 Spring equinox. The true coming of spring. Next it will be May 1st Beltaine. Can't wait.

MRS M

Dear Don, God has truly, and quite effectively, spoken. Take this heavenly hint, and get your bags packed and set at the back door, buddy.

DickD

Isn't this the second one in two days?

threecents

Just one subscriber's opinion: I don't want religious sermons in the Opinion section, especially if - like this one - they promote one particular religion. I would have no problem with this being in the Religion section.

Moon otter

[thumbup][thumbup] Plus he was advertising his book.

threecents

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marylandmirage

Commenters, please! Lambasting someone for their belief structure does not accomplish anything. Logical discussion is more productive. I disagree with much of the good pastor's letter. I do not believe that God in any way caused this, nor do I believe that he is making a choice about whether to make it disappear. I do believe in a Creator, but that certain laws, such as the law of gravity, are in place. Gravity is necessary to keep our feet on the ground, but is also why we get hurt when we fall down. Germs have a place in the universe so that people develop immunity to disease. When discussions are centered around where God "made" something happen, or "saved" someone from a dire situation, it begs the question of a mean-spirited vice loving God.

The Grape of Wrath

I guess then God is on another one of His murdering sprees. Well, maybe pastors should preach, God Dam God! Pandemics, famines, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, droughts, plagues, locusts, earthquakes, tsunamis. All these are 'acts of God." The Lord is about as beneficial to humanity as Dr. Dotard itself.

Obadiah Plainsmen

Ha ha ha, the followers of the prince of this world are in an uproar this morning. Even he knows his time is short.

Hayduke2

But OB, you view Trump as a king, not a prince.

olefool

Only a critical thinker would deem that Mother Nature has the reins to all things possible... All others are irrelevant...

rikkitikkitavvi

Let me share another one of Paul's broadcasts: A Letter To God. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ueqSbriu8

Moon otter

Ah yes another whacked out conservative radio person. Commies are coming to get us. Rik give up your social security.

rikkitikkitavvi

[scared] Whatever shall we do?

llrowse

👍

jsklinelga

Pastor Mitchell

If per chance you read these comments do not be alarmed. It is just a very small group. Unfortunately many of this group dominate this section and over the course of time the comment section of the FNP has actually shrank in participation. I suspect most people just ignore the section for good cause. Happy Easter.

DickD

Oh high and mighty, judge not, less you be judged.

llrowse

Yup. Straight from the Bible

beyoungjr

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llrowse

Grammar police: “shrunk in participation”

Biblical Fact: God’s interaction with man stopped in the Old Testament

Obadiah Plainsmen

Obviously you do not believe that Jesus is God or any part of the NT. After his resurrection Jesus was seen by many interacted with his disciples for 40 days and he personally interacted with Paul on the road to Damascus.

llrowse

“God in three persons, Holy Trinity” I love that hymn/blessing. Don’t try to pigeonhole me with your narrow minded, half baked knowledge and opinion. Put on your big boy pants, and do a study Saul of Tarsus. Make sure to read the studies/writings of the great theologians. Better yet, talk with a Reverend from one of the traditionally accepted Protestant denominations. I couldn’t possible hold a candle to their knowledge/understanding.

Obadiah Plainsmen

I done an extensive study on Saul/Paul what do you want to know? And you didn’t answer my question. just the the Pharisees you refuse to accept the fact that Jesus is the Messiah and God. That is what the OT is about. And what great Theologians are you referring to Joel Olsteen?

llrowse

Obadiah - You like the sound of your own voice. You wouldn’t have come back that empty response if you truly knew what you’re talking about. Keep studying. Talk to a Reverend from a traditional mainstream religion. Let me break that down: Talk.To.A.Mainstream.Reverend.

Moon otter

So you don't mind someone getting free publicity about their book in an LE.FNP should have deleted that portion in his description. Otherwise put in the religion section.

public-redux

Pastor Mitchell,

You are advised to ignore the commenter “jsklinelga” as he often imagines that he speaks for many more people than he does. Enjoy your religious freedom as I do.

your adoring public

llrowse

I suspect that you attended a fly by night “seminary”. I suspect that you haven’t learned Latin, or Greek, which allows the study of the original biblical texts. The text of your piece shows a woeful lack of classical knowledge. I don’t know if you noticed, but God interacting with man is restricted to the Old Testament, aka, The Torah. When God does interact with us, it will be the end of the world. Let’s not hurry that along. Fact: Jesus was born a Jew, and died a Jew. Christianity was “Judaism Lite” until the 3rd Century. Onto SCIENCE. Thomas Aquinas. Study him, and his impact on the Catholic Church. Protestantism, study Martin Luther, not Martin Luther King. MLK comes along wayyyy later. Really, just crack some books, and attend a real seminary. You are dangerous

DickD

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rikkitikkitavvi

Even more true today and this was in the mid-sixties. Lux et veritas. No?

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-arh-001&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=arh&p=if+i+were+the+devil+paul+harvey+1964#id=0&vid=85fd1e5c27fb71c977280ddeb908761f&action=click

sevenstones1000

How dare you tell all the grieving families out there that God chose to kill their loved ones as part of a “plan”.

God doesn’t work like that.

Reader1954

come on people, god is as real as the easter bunny

I hate to always be the annoying nerd. But I am.

Can you remember how old you were when remembering your first Easter?

Was your first Easter remembered as waking up and finding an Easter basket full of pretty green-shredded plastic grass filled with colorful jelly beans, other candies and a chocolate Easter bunny? Or celebrating the resurrection of Christ?

If not relax, you’re normal, because most of us as children in the 20th century, did the same; that’s how commercial Easter has become so popular.

But as we grew up we, you, I - realized that Easter is the most important holiday, along with Christmas, on the Christian calendar, and has been regularly observed from early days of the church. You don’t need to observe it, but don’t trespass against it.

Not a Bible beater but I sure don’t like others judging other’s faith.

rikkitikkitavvi

Since we're reminiscing I miss the good old days when everybody wasn't an overly sensitive pu**y.

public-redux

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No kidding! There are people who get so hot-n-bothered when their religion isn’t accorded the respectful deference they think it deserves, even from people who regard it as just another superstition.

Moon otter

I scrolled down to the bottom of this LE and his denomination explains it all. Just another whacked out fool.

public-redux

“Suppose we’ve chosen the wrong god. Every time we go to church we’re just making him madder and madder.” Homer Simpson

jsklinelga

public-redux

Homer Simpson is fitting for your response. I am sorry you cannot see or feel what billions do today and billions have before you. The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is real and tomorrow marks the celebration of eternal life given through the precious name of our Lord Jesus Christ. Sanctified by the blood of Christ from his sacrificial death on the cross.

Moon otter

Ah yes the Crusades, oh wait the millions that died during the burning times because they were accused of witchcraft. (men and women but mostly women) Oh now lets look at your other history of stealing pagan religious days to fit into the Christian story. Sorry Christianity has a long way to atone for your sins. Sad thing about viruses it takes anybody. So obey the science :stay home: and wear a mask if you go to the store to get your food or meds which by the way is science also back in the day the women were the ones who took care of the sick through herbal medicines. It seems that the church needs to go a long way in recognizing the female in divinity. May my Goddess and God reign forth.

DickD

You might also ask why the Catholic Church does not allow female priests. They have a answer, but it makes none practical sense.

Moon otter

DickD Christianity is a patriarchal religion. Personally, I see my Goddesses and God in the world. I am pagan. Both bad and good happens in the world. Think of it this way, a songbird gets caught by a hawk. Good for the hawk, because the hawk gets to live, bad for the songbird because it loses its life. Its the circle of life. Pretty simple.

bosco

So your invisible guy in the sky is the only true religion, based on texts written down 150 years or more after events, and then filtered by Emperor Constantine because he didn't like some of the teachings, and then further interpreted by self-serving religious leaders? Have you actually studied the history of Christianity and it's teachings or just accepted the word from the pulpit as the word of god who will send you to eternal damnation if you reject the message and fail to pay your dues?

There are a lot of other religions in the world and to think Christianity is better than others has brought a lot of strife to a lot of people while trying to convert them. There are many paths to the divine.

Namaste.

Moon otter

Actually Constantine wanted to stay in power so he allowed the Christian faith to become number one. He actually didn't convert till he was on his death bed but he nailed the coffin for Pagans. Pagans were for the most part very easy going group in accepting other Gods but they wanted the Christians to accept their gods and goddesses as well but that was blasphemy. The old testament and its ten commandments got in the way and still does.

DickD

Judge not, less you be judged, Jim

public-redux

jsk, I’m sorry that you cannot see or feel that many more billions of people think you are wrong. But who is counting? Because this isn’t a popularity contest.

And I’m glad that you got the joke about the Simpsons being the proper level of seriousness that this sermon deserved!

Anyway, nice to have you responding to me. I guess you are feeling morally superior to me again.

Hayduke2

"D'oh" (typically represented in the show's script as "(annoyed grunt)") is a famous catchphrase of Homer Simpson. It was famously accepted by people and was added into the Oxford English Dictionary in 2001. The quote is normally used when Homer hurts himself, finds out something to his embarrassment or chagrin, is outsmarted, or undergoes or anticipates misfortune. I submit that D'Oh is an appropriate response.

DickD

Jim feels morally superior to most and judges them while throwing his religious beliefs aside to support Trump.

Moon otter

Just maybe it was a farce all along so some crusty old men could gain power and not work.

bosco

That's one theory and if you study the history of the Catholic church it's not far off.

DickD

Strange, I have thought that too.

rbtdt5

Thought you were catholic? Did you denounce god?

Dwasserba

Questioning is fine. Follow no religion blindly.

DickD

rb, you are ridiculous

rbtdt5

DickD - you attack Jim for believing in god. Do you or do you not believe in god? If you do why do you attack Jim or anyone else for their faith?

bosco

There are many paths to the divine.

threecents

And you support Trump??

bosco

Not everything is about Trump, except for the never-trumpers whose hate is destroying them from within.

threecents

Just saying that it seems incongruous to me that a Trump supporter would talk about divine paths. No offence intended to anyone.

DickD

And what business is it of yours!

threecents

LoL. Some don't get that the writers of The Simpsons may be smarter than their fictional characters.

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