During the county budget hearing turned Frederick County Teachers Association pep rally on May 6, teacher after teacher spoke in reference to the school system’s lack of funding, complained about not being appreciated, and alleged that no one was receiving pay raises.

One speaker — Thurmont Middle School language arts teacher Adam Umak — earned my attention with his arrogance, self-serving and inaccurate “testimony,” and borderline circus act. He ended his theatrics by motioning to the BoCC with his hands and announcing “come on,” as if he was asking for a confrontation.

Let’s examine his act: Mr. Umak whined that Frederick County Public Schools is (will be) operating in FY 2015 using FY 2009 funding levels. I looked at the numbers for Mr. Umak’s salary from FY 2008 to FY 2014. Here is what I found:

His salary in FY 08 was $45,355, FY 09 was $48,114, FY 10 was $48,114, FY11 was $51,964, FY 12 was $51,964, FY 13 was $53,964 and FY 14 is $60,443. This equates to a 33 percent pay increase over the last seven years, or an average of just under 5 percent per year.

How is it possible that Mr. Umak has been handed a 33 percent raise during the time frame he claims funding has been flat and raises have been nonexistent? Keep in mind, this does not include top-of-the-line health insurance, holiday pay, vacation pay, retirement benefits, pension benefits, sick leave, a weeklong Christmas break, a few days for spring break, and only a nine-month work calendar. If his income was prorated for a full year’s workload, he would be making the equivalent of $84,387.

According to data from the U.S. Census Bureau, the median per capita income here in Frederick County is just under $39,000. Mr. Umak makes considerably more than the median, has a benefits package that many in the private sector can only dream of, and has summers off to do with what he likes. But somehow, he still feels empowered to complain publicly that he is not getting his fair share. That’s right, Mr. Umak is not getting his fair share of your tax revenue. He wants you to believe he needs more.

Mr. Umak declared that “this BoCC has a consensual hallucination that FCPS funding can thrive in 2015 on 2009-era funding.” He also lied that “salary step increases have been eliminated.” I get it. The FCTA (union) is led by the professional whiner and tax revenue gobbler Gary Brennan, who will stop at nothing to bankrupt the taxpaying citizens of Frederick County, even if that means riling up teachers to put on a show or dragging an 8-year-old child to the podium to recite the teachers-need-more-money mantra. It is disgusting for the FCTA to use children like that, but it’s become an annual tradition.

It appears that Mr. Umak is having some sort of hallucination, is being dishonest, or perhaps he can’t do the fifth-grade math required to determine his 33 percent pay increase over the last seven years; a period of time when many in the private sector have received no raise, no benefits and no time off, except, of course, for those who were laid off.

Finally, Mr. Umak singled me out as one who misses Board of Education meetings. I am not the liaison to FCPS. However, I promise Mr. Umak this much: If I am elected to the County Council in November representing District 5, I will request to be the liaison. He will get his wish.

I will be at every meeting pointing out ways FCPS can do more with less.

 

KIRBY DELAUTER, Frederick County commissioner and candidate for County Council, District 5

(434) comments

pupsnoopy

Holiday pay? lol. Vacation pay? lol. 9 month working calendar? lol. So much to laugh about. Kirby is completely out of touch.

mllposey

Just wait! [smile]

Extra Ignored

Original. You've used it at least four other times today.

Did you get admonished for your comments opening Blaine Young up to criticism?

Is Blaine Young worth your freedom of speech?

Louis2014

If you are a District 5 voter, you have until June 3rd to register - election is June 24th! Check out the other candidates, you have a lot of options that are far better than Kirby: http://www.elections.state.md.us/elections/2014/primary_candidates/gen_Listings_2014_1__by_county_11.html

Wigwam

In 2010, the average wage for private sector workers in Frederick County was $43,620.

According to the 2010 U.S. Census for Frederick County, the mean INDIVIDUAL income was $36,472 and the average HOUSEHOLD income was $83,706.

In 2010, the average FCPS teacher salary was $75,561 and the median was $82,377.

Effective July 1, 2013, the salary range for FCPS teachers is $40,706 - $110,240+ (a first-year 10-month per year teacher's starting pay is $40,706).

In 2010, about 175 FCPS administrators made $100,000 to $120,000 a year.

In 2014, the FCPS School Superintendent will earn $198,177, more than the governor of Maryland.

Across the U.S., less than 10 percent of individuals earn $100,000 or more per year.

Roger Hub from Woodsboro recommended the following in 2010:

As a 25-year Frederick County resident, taxpayer, parent and voter, I recommend the Frederick County Board of Education, FCPS and Frederick County Commissioners implement three fiscal policies targeted to reduce the ever-expanding Frederick County Public Schools operating budget by $9.1 million.

-- Downsize: Eliminate 20 FCPS administrator positions with salaries over $120,000 a year. Frederick County taxpayers and parents save $2.4 million.

-- Furloughs: Implement three mandatory furlough days for all FCPS employees. Frederick County taxpayers and parents save more than $4.8 million a year.

-- Salary reduction: Implement a 2 percent across-the-board FCPS salary reduction. Frederick County taxpayers and parents save more than $4.8 million a year.

As a whole, Maryland is one of the highest-paying states for a teacher to work. In 2010, the average annual salary for a teacher in Maryland was $63,971. Teacher Portal ranks Maryland as the 9th highest paying state in the United States. Teacher salaries in Maryland are more complicated than they are in many other states. Most states have a state board of education that determines salaries on a statewide basis, but, in Maryland, salaries are determined at the local school district level. This results in discrepancies in pay from one district to another. Salary scales at Maryland public schools indicate that pay can vary greatly from one location to the next. Maryland school districts typically set a base salary for teachers based on the teacher's education level and the number of years of experience she has teaching in the public school system.

One of the greatest appeals of working in a public school is a higher salary. Public school teachers typically make more than their private school counterparts.Health insurance is also a reason that teachers choose public over private. Typically state systems offer good coverage for independents and families (included in the health care plan of a Frederick County public school employee is $30,000 for in vitro fertilization over a lifetime). Retirement plans for public school teachers are also a major draw. If an individual is planning to teach for a full career (30 years), the retirement plan (a traditional pension) is well worth the years of service.

FCPS Salary Scales
http://www.fcps.org/page/349

FCPS Salary Database
http://fredericknewspostonline.com/databases/database.php?id=23&fdall=true

Across the U.S., the mean annual elementary school teacher salary is $56,130. Of the 1,360,380 elementary school teachers nationwide, the lowest 10 percent earned $35,630 and the top 10 percent brought home an average $83,160 each year. The 620,900 middle, intermediate, or junior high level teachers earn a mean annual salary of $56,280. The bottom 10 percent makes $36,740, while the top 10 percent earns $82,190 annually. For the 959,770 secondary or high school level teachers, the mean annual salary is slightly higher at $57,770. The lowest 10 percent make $36,930 and the top 10 percent are compensated with a sizeable $85,690 each year.

mburns

Hey anyone know what the record is for the total amount of comments regarding a Letter to the editor?

mburns

For the record Adam Umack emailed me to correct me. He is NOT on Jan Gardner's Campaign. I thought he said he was and am man enough to point out my error on this topic. I am sorry I made the error in my previous post and thank Adam for emailing me.

Sorry Adam!

Marty Burns

AdamUmak

No worries, sir, and no harm done.

Have a good one!

patrick

Kirby, Billy and Blaine are marginally literate. When they publish political advertisements disguised as LTEs ... please take that into consideration.

vicdavy

It is self evident that the opposition to education,need an education. While the USA falls farther behind the world in almost every area that a civilized developed country should prioritize, the Conservative Narcissists continue to whine ME,ME,ME!

RJustison

I confused by your argument are you saying that the Public School Systems in America are failing the children? Or are you saying that even though we are spending more per pupil than any other civilized county in the world that we are not spending enough and that this problem can be fixed only by spending more money.

vicdavy

425 Wow! New PR!

Extra Ignored

The Blaine Young BOCC would have you believe that Roy Stanley is going above and beyond the call of duty by providing a site for a high school in the Monrovia Town Center but the fact is he can be required to do so as a condition of approving the planned development district.

(B) Other public facilities. The BOCC may require additional sites for other public facilities including schools, library services, or a fire and emergency medical service site to serve the proposed development where the BOCC determines that a need exists based on established county standards of service.
(Ord. 10-26-561, 11-9-2010; Ord. 11-25-591, 10-27-2011)

http://www.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Maryland/frederickco_md/frederickcountymarylandcodeofordinances?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:frederickco_md

lburton703

Hopefully Mr. Delauter will be seen for the bully he is and will not be elected to the County Council. How dare he threaten the FCPS and a teacher who has the "temerity" to disagree with him! I believe free speech is still the law of the land. Even in Frederick County..

FreddyFred

A vote for Kirby Delauter is a vote for anti-intellectual thuggery.

Maybe his slogan should be, "Govern like you hate people"

a18e9c5

It all boils down to, the school system can't spend it fast enough and the tax payers are getting tired of carrying the load here. Let the teachers give a little more. Let's take away their tenure so they can live like the general public. Pay them buy the hour, average the county private employee pay and give them 10% more. Let them work two jobs like a lot of us. Let them work over the summer to pays their bills instead of going to school to earn a raise. These are all things that we all due to try to get by. We go and work for it, let the teachers work for theirs.

touscents

That should work if you want Frederick to lose most of its good teachers.

lburton703

Have you ever been a teacher? It takes a lot of education and dedication to do that job and I am happy to pay whatever it takes to see that our children are given the best start in their lives. They are our future and people like you will need them to look out for you in your later years. Don't you want them to be educated to make the wisest decisions for you and this country? Your short sightedness is breathtaking.

115mdteacher

This is not about SALARIES. It is about the level of funding needed for a large, quality school system to offer a high quality education to the children of Frederick County. Adam did not make this about salaries, but Kirby sure managed to see it that way. If you really want to go with your system let's do the math:
I will take a median income of about $50,000. Let's add your 10% and that's $55,000. That for the contracted number of days a teacher is in the school would be about $37 an hour. If you want to count by the hour, let's do it. The average teacher puts in about 4 more hours a work day beyond the 7.5 contracted hours on tutoring, grading, entering grades on pinnacle/gradebook, writing recommendation letters, filling out college application materials for students (high school), returning calls/e-mails, planning lessons, generating and buying materials for those lessons, and attending parent, attending seminars and organizational meetings. We won't count doing course work that is required for certification or curriculum workshops, or camps that are paid little or not at all with very little per hour coming from extra duty contracts or department chair positions. We will count what we count today as regular work hours and not overtime (paying time and a half is many cases), which is what it is because it take time away from family, activities and living life outside of work. So, 190 days of 11.5 hours at $37 an hour and you get $80,845 per teacher a year. Not a bad feature. Also, what is the median hourly rate for professionals with a masters degree or better? Probably more I would guess. First year teachers have been stuck on almost half of my figure for the last 5 years.

I'm fine with my salary if that is what we all agree is bought with our best efforts in wise spending of our tax dollars. I'm not fine with being treated with a lack of respect for my earned station in the community by those with a rush of power in their bellies that enjoy it way too much. I see that the level of funding for education is a lessening priority for the majority of the current board. They have made that clear. Education is an investment. We should be spending what we can and not the least we are allowed by law. To make hard decisions and bring people together takes leadership. This letter is not evidence of leadership. It is bullying someone who has a different opinion and a board member should realize that that tax paying citizen has a right to address a grievance to their government. If either party wishes to make personal attacks in a public forum, I don't believe that is the way to respectfully conduct the process of a democracy. It is only how you win elections and energize your base. I'm tired of this. Let's talk, fix problems, compromise and get it down. I expect no less from my students and will except no less from my elected officials who are supposed to be role models. This letter does not demonstrate either fact seeking or problems solving. This letter is shameful in my view.

115mdteacher

Sorry...attending parent meetings...must of hit my mouse pad. Now, back to work. I'm home planning my lessons. Oh, by the way. I trained myself in a trade and created two businesses on my own to make extra income. So, I'm already doing that.

115mdteacher

That's figure not feature...auto correct...

RJustison

How can you say its about funding and not about salaries when 85% of the funding goes to salaries and benefits. That like saying were talking about what keeps a plane in the air but not about the wings.

115mdteacher

The teacher's comments were about funding education, not exclusively about compensation. Yes, that does include, to a greater degree, the salaries of the staff and faculty. I would guess that the percentage of the budget has gone up to 85% for staffing because between paying for materials and trying to keep the best teachers, they have had to spend a larger part of a shrinking budget on staff. This is to keep class sizes down. When you take the fact that despite small increases in funding given as part of MOE, the BOE is trying to run a 2015 system, address all of the new unfunded mandates and initiatives, deal with rising costs of many expenses and do this with 2009 level funding. To keep their staff, not raise class sizes and maintain performance, the pie had to be sliced thinner somewhere. That is why classes don't have paper and new materials/technology. Sure, as far as retaining and recruiting the best teachers, one factor is competitive compensation. I was referring to Mr. Umak's statement when I said it wasn't about salaries. I took his comments as being more about the level of priority given to education from the BOCC. Yes, MOE effects salaries. I think Mr. Umak was thinking beyond his pay to the broader implications of MOE funding and a policy of doing the minimum for education.

backroomfrederick

I'll get you my pretty and your little dog too.

rockthered888

jill king..... "Shouldn't teachers watch what they say in public or write in blogs?" Do you mean to say that teachers don't have their constitutional right of freedom of speech?

jill king

This has been tried once in this thread and the outcome... let's put it this way, I will win. next!

Extra Ignored

He spoke as a private citizen not has a public official. It was your man Kirby Delauter who signed himself County Commissioner who used his official capacity to criticize a private citizen.

In Garcetti v. Ceballos, 547 U.S. 410 (2006), the Supreme Court outlined a two-prong test to determine whether a public employee engaged in constitutionally protected speech. First, the court will determine whether the employee spoke as a citizen on a matter of public concern. This question analyzes whether the employee spoke as a citizen or pursuant to official job duties. If the employee did not speak as a citizen on a matter of public concern, then the employee is not entitled to the protections of the First Amendment. Second, the court will determine whether the government body had an adequate reason for treating the public employee differently from any other member of the general public.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/04-473b.pdf

jill king

This issue is can Mr. Umak be considered a public figure, not if he can write his degrading, demeaning, lambastes at the BOCC members.

There is so much more history here. Mr. Umak isn't quite being honest. Poor feller.

observant

Says Jill King, the public figure with a shadier past that most. She fooled 528 poor suckers tho. Rofl.

Extra Ignored

So what exactly isn't he quite being honest about?

The following is a public comment I prepared and delivered to the Frederick County Board of County Commissioners at the May 6, 2014 Public Hearing on the FY 15 Operating Budget at Oakdale High School.

For 3 ½ years, the Blaine Young Board of County Commissioners has fought The Battle of Who Could Care Less with our schools—and all in the name of nothing in particular.

You have created the most expensive budget in Frederick County’s history. But, once again, education in Frederick is less than important because of your consensual hallucination that FCPS can thrive in 2015 with 2009-era funding.

FCPS has eliminated positions and salary steps, delayed technology and strategic improvements, and cut materials and school budgets.

What a dull ache we must be to you.

The attitudes of mistrust and casual indifference you carry are detrimental to the quality of life in Frederick County. Don’t believe me? Let’s do the time warp again.

I remember when the four of you euthanized Head Start, when you continually disrespected the Hillcrest Elementary School P.T.A., and when Paul Smith said that the 670 homeless students in Frederick don’t exist.

I remember when Blaine Young tried to barge into our contract negotiations, when Kirby Delauter shrugged his shoulders and no-showed for 2 ½ years at joint Board of Education meetings, and when Billy Shreve stormed out of the one meeting he didn’t skip.

We are the ones grading the papers, but you four are the ones that are failing our students and our community.

I remember when you broomed county employees out of jobs, when you allied Frederick with a fringe movement to secede from the rest of Maryland—the state you wanted to be governor of, and when you doubled-down on the godforsaken incinerator project.

I remember when you rushed to close our public libraries, when you privatized and sold Citizens/Montevue senior care facilities, and when you rammed Monrovia Town Center through for development companies—your most generous campaign donors.

Our fight to prioritize education is no different than any other cause in Frederick. We have just been fighting longer.

Later tonight, you will throw your hands up to the press with well-rehearsed grief and encourage residents to study the budget and submit ideas.

I would believe you, Commissioner Young, except that the day after last year's budget vote you pledged to fund FCPS at Maintenance of Effort (MOE) for FY 15 and you have committed to do the same for the next four years if you are elected County Executive.

Blaine, if you intentionally tank FCPS, the rest of Frederick County goes down with it.

This is thankfully the last time that we educators will be able address this board as the county moves into charter government and I want the four of you to remember these words: Nobody—nobody in the entire state of Maryland—nobody gets the job done like Frederick County Public Schools.

http://www.adamumak.com/site/blog.html

stuckon270

rockthered888. Your teachers did not do a very good job explaining the constitution to you or you did not listen.. The freedom of speech only gives one the right to make statements without being charged with any crime or government action.......period. It does not or never has insulated one from poor public opinion or negative commentary based on what one pontificates. Ask Mr Sterling of the Clippers who made a statement not in public but in his own home, Ask the former CEO of Firefox. If one makes a statement in public, that does not mean one cant be challenged, and criticized by those that vehemently disagree with your statement. And yes even if they happen to also be government officials.

corgikid

With gray or Gardner you get big tax increases, more people on the county payroll, more regulations, and more social causes. No thanks.

theenolagray

With the current group you get sweatheart deals for developers and a disturbing lack of civility. Your big tax increases (which may or may not happen) just might be the price one pays to have a civilized society in which we all benefit not just the wealthy few.

rnrbug

[beam]

Extra Ignored

It was the Blaine Young BOCC who raised the price of water to pay for the water and sewer lines to Monrovia. Are they saving the extra fees for the job or are they using it to fund operating expenses like they are the recordation taxes?

At a Public Hearing on December 4, 2012, the Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) approved Revisions to the Water and Sewer System User Rates Charged by the Division of Utilities and Solid Waste Management via Ordinance 12-29-624. The Ordinance prescribes gradual water and sewer rate increases over a 5-year period. The increase in water rates is approximately 12% in each of the next five years (FY 2014 through FY 2018), while the increase in sewer rates is approximately 4.5% in FY 2014, followed by smaller increases in FY 2015 through FY 2018. The rate changes take effect on July 1, 2013 (start of FY 2014) and remain in effect until June 30, 2014.

The subsequent rate changes for FY 2015 through and including FY 2018, shall take effect on July 1, 2014, July 1, 2015, July 1, 2016, and July 1, 2017, respectively, after the BOCC’s annual reconsideration of these rates, unless otherwise modified by resolution of the BOCC.

https://www.frederickcountymd.gov/index.aspx?NID=5311

iamgateway

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
~Abraham Lincoln

Good man.....that Abe Lincoln. Makes one pause and consider much that is occurring in our population, of late.

pins76

Who needs public education when you can home school and the only curriculum one needs is the Bible. All you will need to get through life and be successful is in the "good book." We won't have to worry about paying - or even having - teachers. You can teach your children whatever you wish and make your Tea Party compatriots (and Blaine & his cronies) happy. Plus, that leaves more money for the special interests, tax breaks for the developers and land grabbers, and those who wish to destroy our government. Right on Kirby!

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rpkrauss

If you want teacher pay and benefits go back to school and earn the degree's needed. But this won't happen because you obviously place no value on educators or education.

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Extra Ignored

Unless those unions represent law enforcement of course then you support their demands for pay increases. We know how that goes.

Extra Ignored

Students may not vote but they have two parents, four grandparents, and eight great grandparents who do vote. Maybe you should rethink how you buy votes.

2013-2014 Enrollment 40,715 (up 1,700 the past decade)

http://www.fcps.org/fastfacts

Extra Ignored

Jill King is right. The FY 2015 budget hasn't been approved it is still just proposed. So all these things the Blaine Young BOCC has implemented to buy votes; giving county employees a 5% increase, reinstating $1 million funding to FCC, restoring the deputies steps, etc., could just go away again with the stroke of a pen if the Kirby "Govern like a taxpayer" Delauter and his crew are reelected in November.


Vote for David Gray on June 24

If you don't take the check you can't be bought

Both Democrats (91%) and Republicans (70%) view education as top priorities for government.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/167084/democrats-republicans-differ-top-priorities-gov.aspx

Extra Ignored

Why is the Tea Party so intimidated by education? Are you afraid that people will become smart enough to see through your "if I say it three times it is true" arguments?

May 8, 2014

Four Years in, GOP Support for Tea Party Down to 41%

Support for the movement nationwide drops to 22%

by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- About four in 10 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents classify themselves as supporters of the Tea Party, while 11% are opponents and 48% are neither. This continues to be a significant drop from the Tea Party's high-water mark in November 2010, when 61% of Republicans were supporters of the Tea Party.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/168917/four-years-gop-support-tea-party-down.aspx

touscents

When Jill was soundly defeated in her bit for city alderman, I regarded that as a referendum on the Blaine gang, but Blaine signs keep popping up, even in the city. Let's all show up on election day.

jill king

Wow touscents, I thought you were one of the liberal posters with some cooth.

Funny how an LTE like this full of facts is dismissed, due to a few tone issues.

Extra Ignored

The only fact is the Tea Party would delete the 1st Amendment from the Bill Rights and start it with the 2nd Amendment so a government of the people, by the people, and for the people will parish from this land.

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

stuckon270

Poor comment. The Tea Party has no platform, so you are just making up things. I also suggest you read the whole amendment, especially the part after the comma. Explain to me how someone offering a prayer at a graduation ceremony violates that amendment.

adtwiggiv

Often it's not what you say, but how you say it. In this case it is both what Kirby said and how he said it.

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jill king

I knew it was only a matter of time before the grammar police showed up. Daggone it... a misspell. [beam]

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Kirby "Govern like a taxpayer" Delauter you requested feedback now you are [crying] because you got it.

“The Board of County Commissioners welcomes feedback on our FY2015 Recommended Operating Budget and we look forward to public comments at the upcoming hearing.”

http://frederickcountymd.gov/documents/13/8059/8098/Budget%20-%20FY2015%20Recommended%20Operating%20Budget_201404031539365115.pdf

Extra Ignored

It all adds up so it must be true.

The Frederick County FY 2015 budget is the most expensive in history.
BOE funding is 47% of the FY 2015 budget down from 50% of the FY 2013 budget.
Blaine Young BOCC suffers from a consensual hallucination that FCPS can thrive in 2015 with 2009-era funding.

You have created the most expensive budget in Frederick County’s history. But, once again, education in Frederick is less than important because of your consensual hallucination that FCPS can thrive in 2015 with 2009-era funding.

http://www.adamumak.com/site/blog.html

jill king

How do you post about a budget that hasn't gone into play yet? Seriously?!

Now, if you would, please post some post apocalypse Gardner budgets.

Extra Ignored

If these apocalypic budgets exist I wouldn't deny you of the pleasure of finding them.

touscents

These teachers are not just asking for better salaries and benefits, they are asking for things like projector light bulbs and copier paper - things that they often spend their own money on because the county won't pay more than the minimum allowed, even though the county is collecting more taxes than ever.

jill king

Teachers union v. Conservative taxpayers, always a good battle.

theenolagray

Conservative ideology vs. reality is a far more interesting battle. You can't just make up your own facts to suit your ideology as Commissioner Delauter and the rest of the BOCC try to do. They just got called on the carpet for it this time and didn't like it. The union is just a red herring that you use to try and rally conservative support to your misguided policies. It isn't working this time.

Extra Ignored

You bet. It got you 528 votes in the Frederick city primary.

jill king

So should feel sorry for a teacher who publicly accused the BOCC of hallucinations? I should hope he doesn't talk to his pubescent students in this manner.

It is high time for the public to know that "those poor teachers" that flood the BOCC meetings aren't doing so bad.

Please just admit you are on the Gardner campaign and a union leader. You have been called out.

kjswartz

I believe you can call anybody out to suit your own purpose and agenda.
You have seen a community collectively side with the teacher.

Get use to disappointment.

jill king

Comments really sway people. I honestly hope you don't believe that. This is all in fun for me. :)

kjswartz

In "Little Shop of Horrors", Bill Murray plays the perfect foil to Steve Martin's sadistic dentist. I believe you are looking for fun in very strange places!

Keep posting the same screed again and again. It's more fun bringing up obscure screen and stage references for everyone involved.

theenolagray

Jill you just go ahead and keep defending an elected official who has displayed an incredible lack of decorum and judgement. You can also keep beating that drum that somehow teachers are overpaid and are villians in this dispute. I am sure the community will rally to your cause any minute now. I wouldn't recommend holding your breath however.

jill king

Would the letter have been received if it would have come from a person not in the political scene?

Shouldn't teachers watch what they say in public or write in blogs?

btw... I have missed your insights lately. Glad to see you back.

theenolagray

It absolutely matters that he is an elected official criticizing a government employee in public. If you wrote this letter there would not have been nearly the outcry that this letter has generated. It is this lack of judgement that is the most disturbing. If you were at the meeting, or looked at the footage of the meeting, you would see that Commissioner Delauter picked this fight and is playing fast and loose with his facts to score some cheap political points with his base. Teachers should do more of this, which is speak truth to power.

recordhigh

Why does he have to admit that he is on the Gardner campaign and a union leader? Are you saying that his position on the issue of education funding and teacher salaries would be lessened if he is one of those things? Maybe you just want people that you disagree with but can't come up with a good argument against to put some easy target on themselves so you can fling partisan nonsense at them to discredit them and distract from the real issues. Is that it?

averageterp

Lets have a big round of applause for the FNP!


Notice this was the only LTE published yesterday. That was no accident. The FNP editors purposely published this LTE solo knowing that this LTE would be the death of Kirby.

Good Job FNP, and very sly! You guys deserve a round of applause :)

kjswartz

Folks,

This LttE reminds me of a story told before the last BoCC elections.

As the story goes, Blaime Young was sitting at a restaurant with his friends, saying how easy it would be to do the County's business. As proof, as the story goes, Blaime pulls out a paper napkin and starts scribbling out a coarse budget.

The figures he used, as with the insinuation presented here by Delaughter, were not well researched nor were they intended to further the public discussion. It was intended to be used as solid proof that self-delusion and ridicule was the preferred management style.

It is good to see new names crop up, and a solid attempt for each and every one of us to try HARD to communicate our ideals and our desires. That's healthy.

But for a public servant, elected by the citizens, to publicly demean and ridicule a fellow public servant whose sole crime was to educate the voting public - well, I certainly don't need to point out where the personality fault lies.

kjswartz

For the new people being introduced to this discussion,
we have a county commissioner who says that a single middle school teacher is an example of how well all our school employees such as janitors, cafeteria workers, secretaries, guidance, and teachers are compensated. The figures he posted showed a single educator earned the following salary adjustments:

FY 2009: 6%
FY 2010: 0%
FY 2011: 8%, but paid more for benefit packages
FY 2012: 0%
FY 2013: 3.8% possibly due to a step increase because of course completion
FY 2014: 12% obviously a step increase because of course completion

Eliminate this educator's initiative, and we can get a truer sense what our teachers were paid:

FY 2009: 6%
FY 2010: 0%
FY 2011: 8%, but paid more for benefit packages
FY 2012: 0%
FY 2013: less than 1%
FY 2014: less than 2%

I don't appreciate being intentionally lied to by my elected officials.

jill king

...and he still teaches in the same classroom, regardless of the education credits.

Experience makes a better teacher, not college credits.

kjswartz

I agree - let's give our teachers and their support staff a much needed raise!

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valerie_dale

He certainly was a brave young man, and I am guessing he still is! Good for him, and let us all NOT let him down!

OFMV

Vintage Kirby Delauter to Frederick County Employee, "I'm not gonna be talked to like I'm some punk": 5 minute mark. The only rude person in this video is Kirby Delauter just before he stomps out of the meeting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oXvZs53dmA

clearvu

What a sad letter coming from a public official. Is this what Frederick Co. needs? The day has now come when you risk your job as a public employee when you speak out on important policy issues.

AdamUmak

Thank you, Frederick County. -Adam

valerie_dale

I hope Adam just ignores the comment from Mary, who also said you work on Jan's campaign today on WFMD. She's had a hard day and she is not getting her facts straight. We both know that is not true. An informal, unscientific poll....your support here on the FNP comment section and on that radio station that shall not be named, is very clear and very strong. Keep advocating for our children, our teachers, staff, and adminiarstators...for OUR schools! You rocked it...guess Commissioner Delauter has been fuming on it since this was more than 2 weeks ago.

mllposey

From Marty: "I also think Adam should publicly acknowledge he's on the campaign for Jan Gardner so it taints (at least to me) his argument of the current BOCC, and taints his argument for the FCPS. He is also affiliated or on the Board of the Teacher's union (correct me if I'm wrong on that Adam but I believe that's what you told me)."

touscents

I would hope every teacher is a Gardner supporter. What does that have to do with this discussion?

mllposey

Well Marty did speak with Adam and as Marty posted below: "I also think Adam should publicly acknowledge he's on the campaign for Jan Gardner so it taints (at least to me) his argument of the current BOCC, and taints his argument for the FCPS. He is also affiliated or on the Board of the Teacher's union (correct me if I'm wrong on that Adam but I believe that's what you told me)."

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kjswartz

Must be a pretty poor side of a losing argument if you must rely on others to validate a moot point. A teacher who has free time to assist a professional society? Perish the thought!

BstD59

I have never met anyone more unprofessional and disrespectful than Kirby Delauder, Blaine Young, and Billy Shreve. Paul Smith seconds them only by a very small margin. Kirby, you truly outdid yourself with this LTE...I didn't think it was possible to sink any lower but you proved me wrong.

laxdad2016

Marty you knew you'd be voted off thats why you stepped down as the mayor today's mayor has more class and cares about our youth long before he even became mayor. ...does not surprise me on who u support u butts stick together...to bad we cant get our community to vote them all out....we really do have village idiots working towards are kids future

laxdad2016

As a parent this is crazy...let me guess Kirby will you blast the young man that called you out?? Mr. Burns should you not put and I support Kirby on your post? Bottom line have you forgotten that education equals our future? Instead of blasting somebody that works for our future why not work together for our future. Mr. Burns your town is heroin infested you should focus on that not putting your nose up Kirby.....beep.....im asking to lets stop working against each other and work together....my kids deserve the best education and the best teachers!!!

armillary

Kirby Delauter knows what real work is! Real work is paying the people your daddy hired to do what your daddy hired them to do. Real work is running for County Commissioner to use your office to steer work to your daddy's company. Real work is hiring a land use attorney to tell the Ethics Commission you will be ignoring their rulings about conflicts of interest. Real work is apologizing to developers (your future clients) when your constituents speak out in opposition of the proposals that developers have before him. Real work is telling county teachers that developers are in charge, and Maintenance Of Effort (MOE) is the new normal. Real work is putting profits first, and people last. Kirby Delauter knows what real work is!

dbjanda1

Way to go Kirby, you out Blaine'd Blaine, out Shreve'd Shreve and out Smith'd Smith in

LTE stupidity... Good Job, you showed them and voters who's Number One...Me

valerie_dale

Thank you to our teachers, staff, and administrators - all of whom give so much to our children and to every community across our county. You are the people who make the little red school house the heart of each of our communities. The majority know the long hours you put in, the often thankless work you do, and the sacrifices you make to educate and raise our next generation. Do NOT move...stay here, VOTE, help us build a better future for Frederick County! The 2014 election is upon us, and there WILL be better government!

jill king

That is not in dispute. I appreciate all of my FCPS teachers along with those who have taught my son, but their union has put some of them in denial of what they are really there for, to teach and for their love of children.

Umak frequently lambastes Kirby and other BOCC members in his blog and not afraid to link it, as seen below. We know much of what he posted at 2:15 am (not sure that is enough sleep to teach middle school, but to each their own) is also disputable.

newtofc

Lots of people blast Kirby and the current BoCC and if he knew who they were he'd write a LTE like this one about every one of them.

jill king

Like you guys with alias' do with me? I hope someone soon realizes that I am not going away no matter what lies are told or attacks are made against me.

newtofc

Show me where I have ever attacked you. I don't know anything about you except what I read here. I don't agree with much you have to say but I would not have you go away for any reason. And tell me how your knowing my name would change anything. I am a critic of the Fatuous Four and the Sheriff and Kirby has just showed you what he will do if he knows your name and you dare to criticize him. I was threatened by a fan of the Sheriff a couple of years ago. I was told to stop criticizing the Sheriff "if I knew what was good for me". So I choose to remain anonymous. I wrote many LTE's when I lived in Howard County under my name and never gave it a second thought. But here in Frederick County? Too many angry, vindictive, threatening people here as Kirby has so grandly illustrated here today. That's a sad thing to have to say in America, but it is reality in this County. And you seem to defend those that have created that atmosphere. No offense.

thump1202

your comments below show your appreciation.

jill king

Can you dispute any of it? Umak made himself a public figure, when he chose to blog and advertise.

kjswartz

He disputed a grand majority of your arguments with his first post!
When was it against your law to blog and speak one's truth to fact?
When was it wrong to give a personal account of the angst experienced firsthand?

jill king

Sorry, he gave a lame brush over of what facts really are and disputed nothing. He only proved it was about the money to him.

Craig Hicks

With elected officials such as Mr. Delauter questioning their pay, it seems to me that the teachers in Frederick County need a union to represent them in collective bargaining for their wages.

kimboden

What Mr. Delauter fails to note is that those big jumps in Adam Umak's salary are what I deem "self-made raises". Mr. Umak committed to 36 credits of additional education (a master's degree or equivalent which is required by Maryland within the first 10 years of teaching), as well as, another 24 credits of education which equals what we call in teacher jargon, "the plus 60". This additional education is reimbursed, as are most professionals, but how many professions demand this extent of mastery?

sodalite3

Was this (possibly) a ploy by the FNP to show it's readers the real Kirby Delauter just prior to an election? Why else would such trash be printed if not to allow this dim bulb to stab himself in the foot. Maybe,,,ya think? Nothing else could have put this hot air boob in such a delightfully ghastly lousy light...really kind of fitting though as he brings it upon himself.

Well you jerks (some will never ever learn will they) elected the current BoCC with their hot air bombastic empty promises and smoke and mirrors, so live with it, the damage it has done to your children, your families, your future and to the "reputation" of FC...just about the laughing stock of Maryland...including PG County! No wonder so many in Maryland refer to it as Fredneck the Redneck County!

Near New Market

Good lord, there is a difference between straight talk in office and deliberately badgering your constituents. He's got to go.

thump1202

https://voterservices.elections.maryland.gov/OnlineVoterRegistration/InstructionsStep1

if you don't like what's going on here, make sure you register R at this website and vote for david gray executive, ralph whitmore council district 5, and do NOT vote for shreve or otis for at large council. off year primaries are notorious for low turnout, you WILL make a difference.

jill king

Surely, that is why the Gardner board is the only one to my recollection to have filed an MOE waiver request to the state, 61 pages long. http://www.msde.maryland.gov/NR/rdonlyres/6ACB8948-1E84-429C-9BE1-F219090D270E/19919/FrederickCounty1.pdf

kjswartz

"'With great reluctance and because of the worsening financial conditions, Frederick County Board of County Commissioners hereby requests a waiver of the maintenance of effort requirement for FY 2010 as provided in Maryland Annotated Code ...

Frederick County has a long history of meeting or exceeding the maintenance of effort requirement. Exhibit I shows that during the past ten years the County has provided in excess of $93 million over that required by maintenance of effort. [FY 2000 thru 2009: 5.8%, 8.8%, 6.8%, 3.1%, 2.1%, 3.1%, 5.3%, 11.3%, 6.3%, 5.3%] For FY 2010, however, the County's declining fiscal condition significantly impedes its ability to fund maintenance of effort. As this is written, the State of Maryland has not yet adopted a budget. The County's best current estimates are that the State's funding to Frederick County for FY 2010 will be at least $8.2 million less than what it was in the FY 2009 State Budget.'"

kjswartz

A majority of the PDF you referenced was the published FY 2010 budget.
So, I fail to see the point you are trying to make

- we were in a recession

- state budget was looking to be an $8 million shortfall and still wasn't passed when our budget was written

- our local unemployment jumped to 5.3% from historical 1% to 3%

- BOE representatives SIGNED the waver alongside the BoCC

touscents

Jill, you did not contradict what I wrote - that whenever the county took in more money than the previous year, Jan's philosophy was to spend more on education.

touscents

Leadership styles aside, the issue is if the state allowed minimum funding for education is good enough for Frederick. Jan's approach is that whenever the county pulls in more revenue than the previous year it should spend more on education than the previous year. Her BoCCs have done that, while the current BoCC has always funded the minimum allowed. Education is an investment that tends to pay off for Frederick. Good schools attract new businesses. Educated kids are kids that will more likely not get into trouble and will contribute to society. Not rocket science.

armillary

So many new posters! Must be an election coming up! Throw those BOCC bums out!

Although I'm OK with David Gray in the Republican primary. But the other four, gone!

jill king

Could it just be that they are using different names, posting multiple times under each one? Seriously, it doesn't take much to get an account on here.

No one takes people under alias' seriously, do they?

ehpercy

And how many aliases have you used over the years? More than a few.

jill king

I have used my retrainbrain address, but always signed it with my name.

You shouldn't believe everything they say about me on here Eric. :)

kjswartz

If I may point out: you have lost a great many supporters from the old guard. President444 is nowhere to be found. New faces with fresh insights asking questions and gleaning their own impression which side of this discussion best represents their wishes and desires for the oncoming decades.

Jill, you are shilling for the wrong slate of Republicans. They aren't actually Republicans; they are RINOs with strict libertarian doctrines. Can't you find somebody who better represents your views?

jill king

Anyone close to the median income in Frederick County should feel demeaned by the yearly budget meeting comments, when often they provide discounts to FCPS employees, for their services to aid our children.

They say, if you love your job you never work a day in your life. Many of us are lucky to have one in such a tough and changing economy.

caseylday

What are these discounts of which you speak?

jill king

Roy Rogers, Miyako 10%, and I am sure there is a whole list of them. These people are the ones that are asked to pay for more, when they also provide for teachers in the form of discounts.

http://www.frederick.k12.va.us/pages/Frederick_County_PS/FCPS_Staff/FCPS_Employee_Retiree_Discount

caseylday

Jill- that link is for a Frederick County, VA.

jill king

I had the wrong one copied. Posted it below. Sorry... Miyako and Roy Rogers still do 10% and many have teacher appreciation days, such as Barley and Hops.

jill king

http://www.frederick.k12.va.us/pages/Frederick_County_PS/FCPS_Staff/FCPS_Employee_Retiree_Discount

jill king

maybe this one will show. http://www.fcps.org/site/Default.aspx?PageID=541

ehpercy

Also receiving discounts are Uniformed and retired military, Uniformed and retired police and firefighters, Senior Citizens. Are you going to begrudge them their discounts or are you not grinding axes?

jill king

I am saying the community gives back to those appreciated, even when they make well over the median and their own personal take home pay.

Certain fields get a lot of perks they refuse to acknowledge, when the average worker struggling to pay their current tax rates work just as hard without all of the fringe benefits.

chesapeakecountry

If you don't have to go to work during a normal working day (Monday- Friday) and your paycheck still comes in at the same dollar amount as if you worked a full week then you are being paid for that day off.

gremlins

sigh... the math is really not complicated. A contractor is hired for a certain number of days and works that number of days. When there are tens of thousands of such contractors payroll is made consistent to save time and energy (and money!) in the payroll office. If you are interested, please apply.

iamgateway

With all due respect, I would like to clarify "days off".... in the teaching field, it may be assumed that if we are stay home on a snow day, we get that day for "free" but that is just not he case. Of the 190 days that I am contracted our calendar is assigned 195 days....five days are built in to the calendar at the end of the year. If we don't need 5 winter days or flood days or days throughout the year that cause the schools to close for the safety of the children, then they back our calendar up accordingly. If we use 2, our calendar is backed up 3 days at the end of the year, and so on and so forth. But, if we use 5 days or more days, the calendar for our "last day" is adjusted. If we used six days, then we teach to the calendar date that students were projected to be finished. If we need six days off for emergency situations, the we "make up" one day at the end of the year...and so on and so forth. This year the state of Maryland allowed each county to request a waiver because some of those days were states of emergencies which disallowed buses to be on the roads. Most counties in Maryland requested 4 days waived because we were in a state of emergency and our students could not get to school. Most counties received that amount. Frederick County did not even request those full waivers, instead, Frederick County asked for only 2 days to be waived, and we were granted those days. So this year, yes, I received 2 days of pay in my salary that I did not have to attend work but no more. It wasn't like I wanted to take off or I was slacking, the gov't shut us down. We "make up" the days we are off school when those days are called. But please understand, they are not free days for teachers, unless a state waiver is granted. I am not sure about other jobs that are paid for by the state or county. I can only speak for schools.

vicdavy

WOW! This is a new comment record! Kirby I think you get the message.

VulgarDisplayofPower

Commissioner Delauter (I'll be respectful even if you won't.), If you want to have an open honest discussion about education funding, fine, let's do it. Are there places where the BOE could reduce waste? I'm sure there are. Should we explore making the FCPS more efficient? You bet. Is it fair to expect FCPS to operate in 2015 with 2009 level revenue? Nope. Are the teachers worth way more than they're paid? Absolutely! If there's a way to find the ability to up their income then we should certainly explore it.

All that being said, This LTE is beyond shameful. Mr. Umak, exercised his First Amendment right to petition his governing officials and was rewarded with one of said officials trying to publicly humiliate him. The content of this LTE is beneath the office of Frederick County Commissioner. It's tone is threatening and intimidating, and borders on abuse of power. If I lived in District 5, which I don't, this letter alone would be enough to persuade me not to vote for Commissioner Delauter.

Extra Ignored

Everyone is worth more than they are paid.

Last year personnel expenses were 80% of the budget, this year personnel expenses are 85% of the budget. Somebody got step increases even if you didn't.

Now tell us your teacher hero, parent bum story because we are tired to hearing that education all centers around teacher salaries while our students are going without toilet paper, paper towels, textbooks, and worksheets to conserve paper.

Maybe next years supply list should be a slate and chalk in accordance with the education standards of the early 20th century.

March 16, 1923

This Agreement made and entered into the 16th day of March l923 by and between the Board of Education of the City of Schenectady, N. Y., party of the first part and Hannah E. Kelly, a duly licensed and qualified teacher residing at Schenectady, N. Y., party of the second part, Witnesseth: The party of the first part agrees to employ and hereby does employ the said party of the second part as a teacher in the Public Schools of the City of Schenectady, N. Y., for the school year beginning on the 4th day of September 1923, and ending on the 30th day of June 1924, at a salary of $1525.00 dollars per school year, payable in ten monthly installments during said school year at the office of the Treasurer of the City of Schenectady, N. Y.

http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/education/teachercontracts.html

deech56

This LTE shows a temperament that makes its writer unsuitable for public office. Bullying behavior, small-mindedness, vindictiveness. It worries me that he has any defenders. Character counts for public officials as well as students and he has shown his true character.

mtwocents77

Several postings here state teachers should leave FCPS if they're unhappy with pay, benefits, etc. How would that impact our students and schools? Link below to a study to consider on this subject:

http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED497176.pdf

Extra Ignored

Frederick teachers will have to take a pay cut to get jobs elsewhere but if housing expenses are lower it might be worth it. Go for it.

Number of Jobs 167,900
Median Salary $53,400
Unemployment Rate 4.5 percent

http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/elementary-school-teacher

Extra Ignored

There is no reason to reelect any of the current BOE members, clearly all they do is rubber stamp the staff's budget and our students are left unrepresented.

Joy Schaefer, President
Kathryn B. Groth, Vice President
Zakir Bengali
Colleen E. Cusimano
April F. Miller
Jean A. Smith
Brad W. Young

valerie_dale

Only 4 seats are up for election this cycle...the incumbents that are running for them are Cussimano, Miller, and Young. I agree - let's vote in 4 new BOE members in 2014, as well as a new County Executive and Council!

jill king

So it is the BOE and not the BOCC that fund make decisions on how the money is spent? Wow!!!!

How did Groth slip through, when she dates back to the Central Office Building, along with Jean Smith?

It is nice when some say they won't run anymore, like Gardner.

Extra Ignored

This is the second is what will surely be a series of letters generated by the May 6 meeting.

Kirby "Govern like a taxpayer" Delauter claimed in his last letter that the Blaine Young BOCC supports education that's why they restored $1 million in funding to Frederick Community College.

The Blaine Young BOCC took $2.3 million from Head Start and won't give a dime towards preschool, elementary and secondary students but they will give up a cool million for college students? What's the catch? I guess if you have a high school diploma and have been admitted to a community college even if you're going to have take remedial math courses you are worth investing in.

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/opinion/letter_to_editor/teacher-complaints-unfair-and-inaccurate/article_01a56674-6579-5a56-bc67-5fd827c3fd5f.html

armillary

College students vote. K-12 don't.

Remember "Summertime Blues"?

Well I called my congressman and he said quote:
"I'd like to help you son but you're too young to vote"


jill king

Common Core messed up that theory.

Extra Ignored

I see a lifetime limit of 36 credits and a yearly limit of 9 credits so there is no way the entire 60 credits was reimbursed. The school is not obligated to fund a minimum number of credits each year, an application needs to be submitted and approved.

Lots of people, not just teachers, pay for their education out of pocket.

Each teacher is eligible for a lifetime reimbursement of 36 credits. Nine credits may be reimbursed per fiscal year (Summer, Fall, and Spring semesters make up a year). The maximum reimbursement per credit is the current Hood College tuition rate.

http://www.fcps.org/site/Default.aspx?PageID=359

Sourdoh1

Your assessment of Umak was spot on. He is not the kind of teacher I want teaching my grandchild.

gremlins

God forbid a teacher exercise his constitutional rights.

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Extra Ignored

The Bill of Rights was an admendment to the Constitution so it is technically correct.

Congress of the United States
begun and held at the City of New-York, on
Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

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gremlins

In Brown v BOE the Supreme Court ruled that segregation was "unconstitutional." Obviously not referring to the body of the Constitution but the 14th amendment, which was directed at the states which denied citizenship, rights, and protection of law to newly freed slaves. Changes to the Constitution are part of the Constitution, and we all get freedom of speech. Sorry for your luck.
I was not taught by any FCPS teacher, like the rest of your tirade this is just false, but I'm glad you said it because it just shows how stupid your assumptions are. I'm not even going to touch your SS comment, because I don't want to feed into your deep seated persecution complex.

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squibmyer

Are you intentionally being this dense?

Who was talking about segregation? Your statement about Brown v. BOE has nothing to do with this.

What part of my explanation of how rights are ours naturally, just by virtue of being and how those rights are protected against infringement by the Fed (in the case of the US Constitution (of which the BoR is a part) and by state/local gov't (in the case of the MD DoR) is false?

Please, show me where I am wrong.

To believe that the Constitution GRANTS inalienable rights is a false belief. To believe as such is also to believe that said Constitution can TAKE AWAY those inalienable rights.

You don't want to touch the other parts because then the truth will come to light.

Have a nice day!

newtofc

I know, you want a teacher making $40,000 a year teaching your grandchild. Only the best for your family.

iamgateway

Kirby, I would like to make a correction on a few points in your note. I hope it doesn't come across as mean or hateful, disrespectful or demeaning. You are a member of my community, in a small town, and the last thing I wish to create is community tension. I am salaried and contracted for 190 days out of the 365 days of the year. There is no summer pay, unless teachers budget through FCPS and give FCPS permission to take money from each of the 20 paychecks that they receive, to set up a Summer Salary. I set up my own savings account through a Federal Credit Union where money is deducted from each of my paychecks so that I have money to pay my bills through the summer break; when my school contract ends each year, so does my salary. I do not get paid through any holidays, or spring breaks, and have never received paid vacations of any sort. I have 10 allotted sick days and 5 allotted personal days. I can never accrue more than 5 personal days for any year. And once I have used my sick days, if I have no more days left and need them, my salary is adjusted for the “over allotment” of days taken, unless I choose to use personal days…and I have done that at times. I am thankful for those days. I know there are jobs which offer less days and I know of jobs where they are offered more days. But for what I am offered, I am happy. I use the days for doctor appointments, personal issues and family illness's if I need to assist in care. I have used them for my children's sickness when they were younger, and I have used personal days, of which twice in my life they were used for family care (such as being with my father and mother on the days they left this earth). I have also used sick days for surgeries. But, I can honestly say that in thirty years, I have never taken my 5 personal days and used them for a vacation time. I just want to present a better understanding of how my salary is contracted. I am paid for only the days that the county calendar runs for the students and then the 10 additional days for professional developments or the half days for teacher work days. There are many years that I don't even use the contracted allotted days. But my salary pays me no more and no less than that which I have disclosed. When I accepted this job, I understood that....it was my choice. Am I happy with that choice after 30 years in review? Without hesitation, my response is, yes. I understand that I am a state employee and that anyone can look up my salary and chose to hold personal thoughts or feelings on whether I am worth my salary. They can even write publicly about my salary, and speak about me and discuss those aspects of my life over any media. I understood that when I signed a county contract knowing I work for the state of Maryland. I am fine with all of that because I didn't go into this job not understanding that. But, am I worth it? I think so. I acquired an undergraduates degree in education, then went on to earn my master’s degree in mathematics to make sure I could do my job to the best of my ability. I have taken courses over the years to stay abreast of current national and state standards which are set for the education field so that I can better understand the needs of today’s students in our ever changing world. I don’t take my job lightly, truly, that is a genuine statement. I understand that for 7 ½ hours every day, I am entrusted with the care of precious children and what I do when I interact with them every day… matters.
What I do feel, (as you expressed in this post about how you felt), is a similar disrespect in attitude towards my job or me…I am “a teacher”. I know my name was not used, but my career is under scrutiny. There are people out there that are making me, “the teacher”, sound like a greedy, money hungry person….and I am so, extremely, not that person. I educate tomorrow's contractors, lawyers, business owners; really, anyone who works has most likely received education from “a teacher”. I don't want to "take" money from anyone. But it feels like, to me, what appears to be occurring, because of the publicity that has been offered teachers over the last few years, from some groups of people, is that we are being presented in a dark light as greedy, uncaring people. I am not that person that you speak of in some of your posts. I just am not. I love my students. I hug them daily. I am in contact with most of my parents on a regular bases talking to them about what we can do together to make the most of their child's education or to make sure that their child is happy and thriving in my school. I come early to school and stay late for which I never receive an additional penny. I calculated that over the course of any given year, I offer close to 400 additional free hours of service per year in a variety of ways. I tutor students after school if they need help. I stay to create meaningful lessons that hopefully will engage my students. I grade papers. I plan for field trips, or activities that reward, motivate or offer a greater educational experiences to their day. I try to make them smile, laugh and have fun in a course that most dread. Again, these are my choices. I don’t have regrets. But for each free hour, my overall “pay per hour” takes a decline. I buy materials out of my salary for the students that can't or don't have means to purchase them or if a child just needs something for their day. I go through 5-10 pencils a day, paid for by me. The school doesn't have a program that does this. I reward my classes daily with treats as incentives. If my students privately and sheepishly tell me, they don't have lunch money because they forgot it or don’t have it; I reach inside my own pocket and will buy them a meal or give them some food that is always kept in my room for just those occasions. I purchase my own materials, many times, because budgeting doesn't allow for the materials that I would like to share or have for my students. I have taken my own money and bought groceries for families and children that I know can't afford food or clothing and/or they are going through a period of “struggle”, so when and if I can, I help. I deliver these things privately, quietly, after the hours of my day, and it is kept in confidentiality, always. That isn't the county's money. It's mine. Again, I am NOT complaining....these are my choices. But where I can, I try to help. And it comes from my salary. I am in a field that is vastly different than the average work conditions. My job cares for children….minors that look to me to provide a secure, happy and safe environment.
MANY of the community members that you and I both know can attest to these things. I don't complain, and normally, I don't share what I do. I am a teacher who may be aware of the needs more so than the average community member because of my job. These things are my choices; All of them, I do gladly. I take ownership of them. But when the media and some groups of people present me as a greedy, money hungry, over paid county member; hearing that stings me. I hope it is not the desire of people and groups to make me feel less of a person because of my career choice or because we ask to be considered. I don't want to get into a "hateful" exchange. You have known me for years, or so your family has.....that is not my makeup as a person, is to offer insults and hatred. I know your father, your mother, your brothers and sisters, your dear wife and your children. I have taught some of them. And I know that on one plane, we share the love of our town and its people. The children that hopefully will thrive and expand and move forward; many will go through me as their educator, as their teacher, their mentor. All I ask is that, as you feel insulted in how someone spoke to you.......please offer the same courtesy to us....to the "teachers of this county", of which I am a member. I work hard in my job for which Frederick County hires me each year. I work from mid-August to mid-June, ten months of the year. I do my job as best I can both professionally and personally. I just wanted to make sure that that is heard and understood by the citizens of Frederick County. To the people and citizens of our county, please know it is a privilege and an honor to educate and care for your children 180 days of the year and for the 7 1/2 hours a day that I do. I have loved my job and your children for all these 30 years and hope to continue to do so.
And Kirby....I am sure that you have also had increases in your finances throughout the course of the years that you have owned and operated the business that your dad started so many years ago. In fact, I think it is a bigger company now, with better financial gains as your opportunities have grown and you have managed it. And I am sure you aren't unhappy with that. It takes hard work and dedication to be successful and "grow" a company. You have that ability to increase your privately owned company fees and salaries to whatever level you choose to take them. I don't deny you those successes in your salary and growth. And I don't have the ability to see your salary gains from 2009 to 2014 to scrutinize if those increases are appropriate or too much or too little. Please understand, I just want to be fairly considered, assessed, and paid for what I bring to the table, as anyone would want, in any job.
I don’t want the theme of my job to be expected to “do more with less”….to spin straw into gold. That statement scares me if it is adopted year after year, again and again as the expectations grow higher for student scores, greater rigor in the classroom, deeper understanding and meaning in the academics and more awareness in understanding today’s technology and use of that technology in today’s work force that our students are being place. We do this by offering them less, to understand more, with which to accomplish those goals. Who would really want us to do more with less? When it comes to our children and their education, I would think we would be seeking how to do more for them, with the most that we can possibly provide for them; to give them the best opportunity to reach a successful status in their lives. They are the future. The desire of my heart is to set up an educational opportunity uncompromised in what it offers them and to obtain the best possible educational resources and tools that place those hopes into fruition. That is something I desired for my own children and, believe it or not, I wish that for every student I teach in my classroom. What better bang for our buck can we reap than in educating those that will be making the decisions of tomorrow? I would think of all places to consider cuts, the last place we would be looking would be in the investment of our children. I hope this has come across with the intent that my heart writes it, void of any disrespect, and with a cry out to please help me accomplish these goals for my students. Best to you, Kirby.

Extra Ignored

Always remember to write for your audience. Preschoolers have a short attention spasm and will stop playing to watch commercials on television.

thump1202

thank you for your service, my children did not go to school in this area but i respect that everyone i encounter was educated somewhere and i have always been treated decently in that area.

newtofc

I'll bet Blaine is not too happy with Kirby right now, bringing on all these negative comments about a sitting Commissioner. But it's a typical LTE to the FNP from one of the Fatuous Four.

a18e9c5

Kirby just demonstrated backbone in standing up for the taxpayers in this county. He did not have had all the information needed to respond at the meeting but needed to let the voters know the truth about these teachers that are using our children to beg for more money in their pockets. If Mr. Umak isn't satisfied with his job or pay he can move on.

gremlins

All he did was demonstrate how much free time he has on his hands, enough to research the salary history of one speaker, write a rant that is barely related to anything the speaker said. Mr Delaughter's salary is the waste of taxpayer dollars, he obviously is not interested in the actual governing of Frederick county.

a18e9c5

No, what he did was spent a little time making a public school teacher look like an idiot(probably didn't take to much time). Why was Mr Umak waving and twiddling his finger when he was done speaking. He was egging the commissioners on. This was a public demonstration that was trying to intimidate somebody. He was asking for more attention, He wanted an answer, Now he is in the spotlight. Mr Umak should be a theatrical instructor. His lies about not getting a raise in 6 years is pathetic.

newtofc

Such venom! Being a teacher is one of the most difficult jobs in America. Especially a middle school teacher. You have to deal with kids going through dramatic change to their minds and bodies and with parents who think their children are the next Einstein. Or the worst, parents who don't give a darn about their kids. If you use Sheriff Jenkins $100,000 a year salary as a baseline, they are all worth much more. Yes, I am biased. We have a daughter who is a 7th and 8th grade English teacher and we spend many weekends watching our grandchildren so she can read and grade a hundred essays. Plus many hours spent with lesson plans and after school activities. Anyone who thinks a teacher making $60,000 dollars a year is overpaid is a fool.

gremlins

He had the time to look into teacher compensation packages and still got nearly the whole thing wrong. There is NO vacation pay, no holiday pay, and teachers are not paid for winter or spring breaks, both of which are set up to accommodate students and their families, not teachers.
If the tax burden of Frederick County is too much, no one is making you live here either. Check out the economies of counties and states that underfund education. No businesses want to enter.

gremlins

He had 15 days to find out about teacher compensation packages and still got almost the whole thing wrong. Vacation pay, holiday pay, it does not exist. Teachers are not paid Christmas or spring break, which are set up to accommodate students and their families, not teachers.
To those who tell unhappy teachers to move on, I could say no one is keeping you here either, you can also leave, but I'm not that hateful. I can live with neighbors I disagree with. But I would encourage those to go visit counties and states that underfund public education and check out the economy. It's bleak. But taxes are low!!

Extra Ignored

Mr Umak didn't complain about his pay. You can read his statement for yourself. That's just Kirby Delauter's excuse for writting the letter.

http://www.adamumak.com/site/blog.html

thump1202

all kirby demonstrated was that he is small minded and can't handle any opposition to his pursuit of his personal interests at full taxpayer payment.

bukweet

kirby has just demonstrated by this farce of a 'complaint' letter to the editor
against the teachers, residents and voters of frederick county why

1. kirby does NOT have the temperament to hold public office

2. kirby IS unfit to hold public office.

save1more4jesus

[thumbup] give me the meaning please.

adtwiggiv

I wonder what Kirby's hourly wage works out to considering how little time and effort he puts in as a commissioner?

jill king

Is that why you have applied for the position? All of the commissioners have barked about the salary when they took office. None of the Blaine group took the pension. Gray, the lifer is the only one that could be bought with pension.

thump1202

so tell me jill how many hours at meetings has kirby not been on his cell phone? i do believe most employees would be fired for doing such things while on the clock.

Front Rumbler

Here is the link for anyone interested in switching party affiliation to republican. You need only your computer and driver's license, very easy to do. Be part of the rising tide of citizens who want to rid our county of these horrible, self serving commissioners.

https://voterservices.elections.maryland.gov/OnlineVoterRegistration/InstructionsStep1

jill king

Since primaries are for parties to promote their candidate choices, I find this a sick and twisted way around the system.

Extra Ignored

Some people thought it was pretty sick and twisted for the Republicans to sign Jennifer Dougherty's petition to be added to the ballot then not vote for her.

jill king

How do you know they didn't vote for her?

I signed it because she shouldn't have to affiliate with a party to run for office. The elections are set up correctly. Primaries for party nomination and allowing those who choose not to affiliate a pass from the primary.

Hopefully soon, they will take affiliation off of the ballot. People will have to pay attention then.

thump1202

"if it was wrong it would be illegal" blaine young

mllposey

From Adam Umak's post way below... "On that note, I took personal responsibility and continued my education, out of pocket with no loans, to pursue required credits for my +60 credits and raise. I wasn't handed anything. Realizing the inflexibility that the current BoCC carries with only providing Maintenance of Effort (MOE) funding for our school system, I knew that the only way to get ahead was to pursue my education and earn credits. So, I fast-tracked my credits and went to work."

~ Adam, please explain your post above -- "out of pocket", etc. You make it sound like you paid for all the +60 credits yourself. I thought that because the credits were required you were also reimbursed nearly 100% for the class fee (not supplies and books, etc.). Please clarify because if you are reimbursed as a teacher, your online statement is misleading. Were you reimbursed tuition/class fee?

mllposey

" I wasn't handed anything" --- Can you please explain that Adam U.? Looks like the school system does offer tuition reimbursement up to a point. So were you ever reimbursed for any of your +60 credits? Thanks.

http://www.fcps.org/site/Default.aspx?PageID=359

Tuition & Praxis Reimbursement
What is the procedure for getting tuition reimbursement?

Submit a Course Approval form before taking a class and complete a Tuition Reimbursement form and the required documentation after receiving the grade for the class. Always be sure that your coursework is taken through an accredited college or university or through MSDE and is age/grade appropriate and is related to education in general or your certification area. See the Tuition Reimbursement form, available in the office of each school, for specific documentation that must be included with your tuition reimbursement request. Reimbursement requests for summer courses must be submitted no later than October 15th, requests for fall courses no later than March 1st, and requests for spring courses no later than June 30th. Allow 30 days to receive your tuition reimbursement check.

For how many credits may I be reimbursed?

Each teacher is eligible for a lifetime reimbursement of 36 credits. Nine credits may be reimbursed per fiscal year (Summer, Fall, and Spring semesters make up a year). The maximum reimbursement per credit is the current Hood College tuition rate.

rpkrauss

Teachers are only reimbursed for a handful of credit hours. Once they pass a certain number they have to pay entirely out of pocket.

rpkrauss

That 36 hours is primarily there to pay for the classes they have to take to keep there certification current (I think it is about 6 hours every five years) assuming a teacher works thirty years (the requirement for full retirement benefits) they will use that thirty six hours to maintain a current level of certification. This means in order to obtain advanced degrees and or training beyond the minimum they are Required they have to pay out of pocket, which is what I assume Adam did

caseylday

FCPS teachers can have tuition costs reimbursed for up to 36 credit hours total, 9 credits per year, up to the current Hood College rate. If teachers leave less than 2 years after having received reimbursement, they are required to repay the reimbursements.

mllposey

That's what I thought, casey. So don't you find Adam's post odd? ---> " "On that note, I took personal responsibility and continued my education, out of pocket with no loans, to pursue required credits for my +60 credits and raise. I wasn't handed anything. Realizing the inflexibility that the current BoCC carries with only providing Maintenance of Effort (MOE) funding for our school system, I knew that the only way to get ahead was to pursue my education and earn credits. So, I fast-tracked my credits and went to work."

mllposey

casey, don't you think it sounds like he is saying he did all +60 credits without any tuition reimbursement? He states "out of pocket" and "I wasn't handed anything" .... I find that hard to believe.

kjswartz

It sounds like you are intentionally reading too much into his post.

a18e9c5

Where is all this hype when discussing military pay. What percentage of these men and women are making 60k. How many days a year do they work? How many holidays do they get? How often do they get the summer off? Why don't these teachers go after the congress and some of their money. Look what they make. How many Aids do they have and how much are they budgeted for staplers and stationary? What about looking into the amount of money the Frederick County Superintendent makes? This position is paid from the same pot the teacher salaries come out of. The only true money problem this school system has is the planning and spending problem, they have plenty of money. The school system in this county should not make up half of the overall budget, period. The teachers hold our children hostage whenever they want anything, dollars. It's for the kids, its all for the students.

ehpercy

First off our military should be paid more, especially after a decade and half of poor management.

That being said, using them and everyone else you cited in a strawman arguement is pretty pointless.

a18e9c5

What about the Frederick County School Superintendent? $198,177, plus perks. And, fifty percent of the county budget goes to the school board, no oversight to elected officials, no questions asked, no responsibility to the taxpayer, just throw the money in the hole and back up to watch it disappear.

Extra Ignored

BOE is only 47% of the FY 2015 budget and it was only 50% of the FY 2013 budget so the school has lost 3%.

ehpercy

I don't know what planet you are living on but it is not this one. Tell us what should the Superindent of one of top school systems make?

Oh, BTW BOE is probably the most overseen, regulated and mandated agency in County Government, including not one but two elected boards. I suggest you get an education first.

ehpercy

Also her salary is less than 0.05% of the FCPS budget. How does that compare to other department heads?

Extra Ignored

The Frederick Community College President only has a masters degree and manages a smaller system but makes $210,000.

squibmyer

"BOE is only 47% of the FY 2015 budget and it was only 50% of the FY 2013 budget so the school has lost 3%."

FCPS math student, eh? No, that doesn't mean FCPS lost 3%, it means that the percentage of the overall budget share went down by 3%. Easy to happen when the overall budget increases and the FCPS share doesn't increase by the same amount.

The overall budget has gone up by about 10%, whereas the BoE budget has
stayed flat. It's simple math (unless you are in common core, then it's not).

rpkrauss

First, stop with the false equivalencies this is not a discussion about our armed services. But to even begin comparing educator pay to military pay you would have to start with commissioned officers who have earned college degrees and above.
But your real mistake is to use the armed services as an example of thoughtful and frugal budgeting. The military budget for fiscal 2014 is nearly 700 billion dollars which equals all money spent on public (primary, elementary and secondary) education in the same year. The F-35 program is costing us 10's of billions in cost over runs and may never work as advertised, the VA is a national embarrassment, and the defense dept. will not allow itself to be audited. From where I stand public schools are a bargain.

FrederickTwinMom

Kirby shows how awful he is even by his emails. His responses are immature, mean and unprofessional. A Blaine Young puppet nothing more.

Extra Ignored

The county could also quadruple it's order of letter size paper and give it to the BOE.

The BOE is also needing staplers.

If the Blaine Young BOCC doesn't want to give the BOE money then they should give them supplies.

rnrbug

Maybe i did my math incorrect but......$63,991 would be the amount needed to make it an increase of 33%. 2009-current Just saying

squibmyer

You did your math incorrectly.
Salary in 2008 - $45,355.
Multiple by 1.33 to show an increase of 33%
You get $60,322.15

I know that is lower than Kirby's number. I have a feeling he was rounding down to 33%.

Umak's salary actually went up by 33.26645353323779076176827251681%

:)

mllposey

I'm sure glad you post!

#Bringbacktheforum

armillary

mllposey, that was the old FNP website. Different software. Capitalism has triumphed and the FNP uses the same website software as most second-tier newspapers (TownNews.com) and that's not going to change.

You just need to learn to post links properly, that's all.

mllposey

Thanks, armillary. squib and I go back several years - she often posts about bringing back the forum and I was just chiming in with the same thing. Glad she posted the 33% bit. Glad she's here - I know we both miss the forum but correct, it won't be back, I'm sure. And one day I'll get the links down! :)

rnrbug

Actually I did my math correctly except I started with 2009's salary as Adam stated not 2008 as Delauter decided to do to make the numbers work in his favor

Jackjaw1984

I hate to say it but he is right about the nonsense that FCPS comes up with. With that said, I WOULD NEVER AND HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR KIRBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is mean, vindictive, petty minded and ungrateful.

elymus43

More money makes better teachers?????

newtofc

No, better teachers make more money. It's like that in most industries.

amphibo2

Ah, yes. The 'private industry' argument. Just look at all of those million dollar buyouts to failed CEOs.

squibmyer

No. Some of the teachers I had when in school are still teaching in FCPS. Some of them were horrible teachers. One of them, without naming the name, is making over $90K

kjswartz

Wow

Talk about holding a grudge against teachers!

How long have you had that chip on your shoulders? 10? 20? 30 years?

a18e9c5

If teaching in Frederick County is such a bad job, why don't you move on to greener pastures on the other side of the county line. This is still a free society, you are not slaves. You are free to move on if you can do better. How many other people in this county have been working to better themselves in the last 5-6 years and have not had a 33% raise. Quit your whining, grow a set, stand up pack your bags and leave if you don't like it here. If being a teacher in this county is so bad, why is it we always have more teachers applying for jobs than what we need?

Louis2014

^^^ To tell a talented, highly qualified teacher to leave our county's school system is incredibly ignorant for a number of reasons. Firstly, if Fred.Co. wants to continue to provide quality education to the students, it needs to be competitive and attract talented teachers. Secondly, Mr. Umak got those raises because he spent his own money to pursue masters education credits to bump himself up in the pay tier. Those were not regular raises. Thirdly, Mr. Umak wasn't complaining so much about his pay, but the greater needs of the schools, like how many are over capacity, many need serious structural upgrades, many schools are lagging behind in technology investments, and the list goes on. Before you post a reactionary comment, take some time to learn about the facts rather than immediately believing a politically motivated LTE that is clearly full of misinformation.

rnrbug

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richardlyons

Or.... a teacher could stay put and petition his/her BOCC and BOE for legitimate grievances, as Mr. Umak did, without fear of threats or retribution. As you say we are not slaves, and we are a free society. Citizens are equal under the law with a right to petition the government, a concept Kirby refuses to grasp.

caseylday

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rpkrauss

Many are moving to greener pastures I personally know several who have transferred to Carroll, Washington and Montgomery counties as well as Pa. All of those systems have been pleased to get some of our best and brightest

caseylday

If you look at the information in the Staffing Changes section of today's BOE agenda, you will see that there have been 69 resignations since March compared to just 23 over the same period last year.

Extra Ignored

The Classical School will be happy because they won't have to take teachers from the recall list who were on medical leave they don't want.

whoville2

Greener pastures is right....Fairfax Co. begins bus drivers at $18.52/hour

The starting salary for Bus Drivers is $18.52/hour, effective January 1, 2014.


http://www.driveforfairfax.com/benefits.asp

gary4books

"Thurmont Middle School language arts teacher Adam Umak — earned my attention with his arrogance, self-serving and inaccurate “testimony,” and borderline circus act."

Kirby ought to hush up before the voters see what a mean person he seems to be.
Even when a person gets a pay raise they can discuss the budget and say it is flat in a more thoughtful and objective way.

Kirby just makes it personal and is very unprofessional in his comments.


In my opinion, of course.

Extra Ignored

Last year personnel expenses were 80% of the BOE budget, this year personnel expenses are 85% of the BOE budget and students are going without toilet paper and paper towels in the restrooms.

Maybe the county just wants to quadruple their order for toilet paper and paper towels and give it to the BOE.

armillary

Kirby's LTE breaks the mid-day record for number of posted responses, even beating the full-day response numbers of some of Blaine's sillier LTEs.

Judging by the responses, Kirby has galvanized the community against him. And I've never seen so many new user names posting in one day!

Just don't forget to vote on June 24th! It's not what you say that counts, it's what you do!

squibmyer

I'm not sure if you were here back when the Forums were still here (#BringBackTheForums BTW), but the majority of the online group then was also galvanized against the current BoCC, with a few exceptions.

You would have thought that at least some of the Blaine slate would not have made it in, but the way they utterly shellacked the Democratic candidates (Kai fared better than the others, yet he barely came within 6K votes of 5th place) showed that online sentiment wasn't even a factor.

Granted, it's 4 years later, social media is more involved, so it may be closer, but, as I mentioned in a comment somewhere in the past, like Jenkings, if Blaine makes it past June, he's going to be the first CE of FredCo, whether you or I want it or not.

armillary

squibmyer, maybe your name was ManOnTheStreet back then? You are incorrect that the majority of the online group four years ago was galvanized against the current BoCC. I began posting in August of 2010, suggesting that Blaine's race-to-the-bottom, dog-eat-dog view of our society was out of step with the people of Frederick county. People on the FNP message board were on average four to one against my views. Those people stuck around for the first year or two of Blaine's administration defending him, then the tide turned against him. Now as you can see, sentiment runs about ten to one against him.

squibmyer

That's not how I remember it.

They should #BringBackTheForums so we could look and see.

I was still "squibmyer" back then (I think it was just "squib" though).

jill king

That's kind of funny, armillary. There are a few on here that are just posting under several names.

armillary

Jill, that may be true. Other than a few posts as doubledactyl, trying out a variant of the limerick prose, I've never posted as anyone else.

drumdigger1976

One more thing - Montgomery County seems to be able to give their kids more. Check out the story below, while maintaining a balanced budget. Oh, and guess what, Montgomery's economy is thriving, accounting for one-sixth of the entire state's tax returns. So, I guess it is possible to balance a budget, encourage economic growth, and invest in our children's education. Too bad the rubes on the BOCC can't just look south for a good model.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/montgomery-county-set-to-give-public-schools-50-million-over-state-minimum/2014/05/12/cf84ef86-d91c-11e3-8009-71de85b9c527_story.html

recordhigh

Didn't you hear? Montgomery County is an evil, tax-crazy, immigrant coddling, dysfunctional, liberal stronghold that represents everything that is wrong with the world. Never mind that they actually have lower property taxes, what could we possibly learn from them about funding education or balancing a budget?

squibmyer

"Never mind that they actually have lower property taxes"

That is not entirely true. Some areas of their county has lower tax rates. Others have significantly higher tax rates.

recordhigh

Sure, it looks like a few special tax districts exist that would push some Montgomery residents over the minimum tax that a Frederick resident would pay, but Frederick has its special tax districts too. Anyway, by and large, Montgomery County residents pay less personal property tax than Frederick residents do, yet the common perception in these forums is that Montgomery has higher taxes, because why check facts when it contradicts your narrative and most people won't notice.

http://www.dat.state.md.us/sdatweb/taxrate.html

squibmyer

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/finance/resources/files/data/taxes/2013RealPropertyTaxRates.pdf

I believe you are incorrect in this statement:
"anyway, by and large, Montgomery County residents pay less personal property tax than Frederick residents do"

What areas in MoCo are NOT in one of the special tax districts?

squibmyer

And how many people are paying their base rate vs. the number of people paying the base rate in FredCo?

if you can show me that more are indeed paying less then I'll concede victory to you, but I don't think you can.

Ed Morgan

drumdigger1976, your spin is dead wrong. From the article you cite.

"Through a series of unusual accounting maneuvers, the Montgomery County Council is set to give the school system its full $2.3 billion budget request for fiscal year 2015, but without triggering the requirements of a state law that requires the extra money to be built into next year’s minimum funding.
The plan would violate one of the basic tenets of budgeting: putting “one-time” funds into ongoing expenses. But with the iron triangle closing in, council members seem to be willing to worry about that next year."

Here is what the Washington Post really thinks about Montgomery County's school budget costs.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/montgomery-co-is-poised-to-spend-money-on-schools-that-it-will-regret/2014/03/22/9f12e52a-afa4-11e3-95e8-39bef8e9a48b_story.html

drumdigger1976

OK, right-wing apologists and blind Blaine Young followers. Here's a very simple question. Is there anything that you know of that costs LESS now than it did five years ago? Is there anything that will cost less in 2020 than it does now? Education is just like anything else - costs go up. This is not a Republican or Democratic principle, but an economic fact. The question is this. Where do we as a people want to invest the resources to keep up with that fact: education, sweetheart developer tax credits, salary increases for government employees (not education workers), more sheriff's deputies. There are good arguments for any of these and good arguments against any of these. But to say that education in Frederick County will be hunky dory without appropriate annual increases is intellectually false. It's simple - Blaine and his cronies have chosen other priorities than education. That's fine, but we will see later this year if the good people of Frederick are just as callous when it comes to our children's future. I certainly hope not.

rpkrauss

On a serious note what I find most disturbing about commissioner DeLauter's letter is the not so subtle threatening tone. Implied within this letter is the following message . "Look out mr. Umak I am a man with power and I am coming to get you!" Laugh all we want but commissioner Delauter does have the power of his position and he has demonstrated on multiple occasions a willingness to use that power to hurt people he perceives as "beneath him" (usually county employees) or people who speak out against him. This is not funny for the people who are hurt. This letter is a blatant attempt at intimidation against mr. Umak. No elected official should be allowed to use the power of their position to intimidate their constituents. Fortunately we the people have the power to vote this man out of office and I hope in the coming election we make it very clear we will not tolerate this type of behavior from our elected representatives. Shame on you commissioner Delauter

jill king

Thank you, FNP by titling this to set the tone and thank you Kirby for debunking cry me a river.

Casey gets the benefit of the doubt as long as she is posting on her breaks and I will give her the $76k figure, but this is still almost double the median of the average taxpayer in Frederick County that they want to see taxed more.

rpkrauss

Apples to apples dear, get the median salary for Frederick county residents who have a masters degree or higher and then compare numbers. If we are not willing to reward people for twirling hard to improve their professional competences why should they be motivated to improve. I am tired of hearing people whine about how much teachers get paid. If you want what they have sacrifice years of your life and tens of thousand as of dollars getting the appropriate education. If you're not willing to do that stop whining.

jill king

Seriously? Why would someone with a masters degree live and work in Frederick? Is the Masters Degree a necessity to teach? If so, why then can they start in the same exact classroom with a BA?

rpkrauss

I am not sure how to take the comment "why would anybody with a masters want to live and work in Frederick?" Do you think so little of our community? In answer to your other question the masters degree is needed to progress up the salary scale. You can argue the efficiency of this method of promotion but to denigrate individuals for doing what they have to do to make a better living is just being obtuse. In your next response come up with an objective way of measuring the professional development of educators instead of just bashing the current system they are required to work within.

ehpercy

Considering the current atmosphere I am sure many are thinking hard about your first question. Once the schools start sliding watch middle class families start moving elsewhere.

As for your second questions to have a teaching certification one almost needs a masters equivlency. And to be a highly qualified teacher it is almost required, especially in many areas.

armillary

Jill, be honest. Did none of the instructors at FCC who taught your Legal Assistant curriculum have a JD or masters?

observant

Ridiculous question from failed political groupie Jill King. Here's a better question Jill: is your revoked cosmetology certificate a necessity for you to run your section 8 housing?

rpkrauss

Oops meant working not twirling

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Casey makes below the median.

Frederick County, Maryland

Median household income, 2008-2012 $83,706

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/24/24021.html

caseylday

Just for full disclosure, I also have 20 years with FCPS, a Bachelor's degree, Master's degree, 40 additional post-baccalaureate credits past my masters degree, and National Board Certification. (Oh, and all distinguished evaluations, if anyone needs to know). I have also had copier paper rationed this year, don't have a class set of any textbooks, and get $75 yearly from my school as my classroom budget for supplies. Right now my stapler is broken but I will either have to buy my own or wait until next school year for a replacement. Let's see some apples to apples comparisons. We need to continue to advocate for SCHOOL funding, as Adam did. It was Kirby who started the salary argument...

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Don't forget to take your deduction on your federal taxes.

Topic 458 - Educator Expense Deduction

If you are an eligible educator, you can deduct up to $250

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc458.html

jill king

Do you find that you teach better with your masters degree or would you say it is just mandated fluff? Seriously, experience always trumps additional education.

Also, could you explain how FCPS reimburses for tuition? There seems to be some confusion about how this is in the budget and a requirement. Thank you, Casey.

ehpercy

Really? You think learning advanced skills and knowledge is fluff? That is not picked up standing alone in front of a classroom and ever advancing technological world constant and advanced education and training is a requirement for most fields.

No wonder America keeps falling behind when people so devalue education.

caseylday

Jill- I am absolutely a better teacher after my Master's degree and other graduate coursework! You can have lots of time in the classroom, but graduate work provides the opportunity to learn new strategies and skills you would never have come up with on your own! Definitely not "fluff".

ehpercy

As much as it pains me to acknowledge jill.king is correct I do believe she was comparing median individual not median household.

That being said the median income is probably low because of many business owners paying lousy wages.

rpkrauss

I still would like to see the median individual numbers adjusted for education level it would tell a completely different story than the one Jill is telling

jill king

It's all fun, Eric! [smile]

ehpercy

I do not think an elected official using the signature of that office attacking citizens (regardless of employment or political affliation) is no where close to fun. It is an abuse of power and position.

ehpercy

that should be anywhere close

Wigwam

That figure you quoted is for HOUSEHOLD income, not individual income. Less than 10 percent of individuals in the U.S. earn $100,000 per year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Income_America.png

caseylday

Jill- I am off sick today. There isn't time to even read the paper, let alone post comments during a school work day.

jill king

I hear you, Casey and believe you when you say it. You have always been more than honest with my questioning.

apelilae

Sorry, Kirby. You are an IDIOT for writing this; completely avoid the real issue and blast an individual and his salary?! Come on.

Your closing just sums up why I pray you will not win this election: "I will be at every meeting pointing out ways FCPS can do more with less."

FCPS and their students deserve MORE!!!!

Extra Ignored

June 24 can't get here fast enough so we can send a loud and clear message to the Blaine Young BOCC.


Vote for David Gray on June 24

If you don't take the check you can't be bought

truthfulandhonest

Kirby has shown his true colors and hopefully makes it clear to anyone who possibly thought about voting for him, to change their minds. So what if Umak is supporting Gardner? Wouldn't you support the candidate who support you?

friedhard

Another example of how Kirby will "Govern like a taxpayer". More like "Govern like Vlad Putin" It is an abuse of the power of public office to attack a citizen with inaccurate, defamatory statements for speaking out . Did Kirbie use any public resources to create this attack? I doubt he personally has the computer skills to look up the man's salary history. When a public official uses his taxpayer funded office to attack a citizen who speaks up, he should be investigated for ethics violoations. Its why many of us post anonymously. For those of you , like Darth Feral,or jgrose, who continue to shill for this creep, shame on you.

rpkrauss

He was probably looking up Mr. Umak's salary history on his phone during the BOCC meeting which would explain why he ignored all the other commenters.

rbtdt5

OK teachers only get paid for the days they work. So if they make $50k a year working their 7 1\2 hour day, 180 days per year that's over $37 per hour. Get a part time job with all time your not teaching if you can't live on that salary.

rpkrauss

It's a 190 days per year, please bash honestly

caseylday

[thumbup]

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Teachers work more than 7 1/2 hours and 180 days. They work outside of class time and days students are not present.

sodalite3

Did you bother adding in all the hours spent at home correcting papers, answering parent e-mail and phone calls, all the hours developing lesson plans and all the hours not mentioned preparing for their daily work. NO? Well didn't think so.[sad]

jill king

Did the two who have filed for office take into account that they may not have time to grade papers and represent the public?

whodthink

This "contract hours" concept has always seemed odd to me. The contract establishes the face time hours that teachers are to be present in the school building. I expect that many, if not most, teachers put in enough outside of school hours during the 10 month school year to equate to a full year's regular hours, so references to an "effective" annual rate or hourly rates based on the in-school hours are simply red herrings. We all know those hours are a necessary part of a teacher's job, so I don't know why the contract ignores them, other than the fact that setting a 7.5 hour day/190 day year makes payroll and accounting easier.

whodthink

By the same token, complaints about not getting paid for holidays and summer are also red herrings. That could be changed with accounting adjustments, but it would not change the salary. The bottom line question is whether the salary structure is attracts and retains quality teachers.

ehpercy

An accounting adjustment that affectively lowers teacher pay, but that is what many who are defending Kirby really want, so they can stick it to all those "socialists" working in the schools.

a18e9c5

Why is it that most posters want to bad mouth Mr Delauter but very few have pointed out the fact that Mr Umak stood up at a public meeting with 1000 - 1100 people present in front of the television cameras and the board of County Commissioners and LIED. This is the type of people we have teaching our children! What kind of example is this. Mr Delauter went home and found the information he needed, which is public, easy to find on the internet, and tossed this back into the lap of Mr Umak. If there should be any apologies Mr. Umak should be the one giving them.

jrnewt

Read it again and get your facts straight. The issue is about funding, not the betterment an individual WORKED for through continuing education. I don't see any lies on Mr. Umak's part.

caseylday

Where is your documentation of "lies"? Post them so they can be discussed.

Extra Ignored

What was the lie? Except for the $1 million to install WiFi so FCPS could keep up with Burger King and Starbucks the Blaine Young has not supported the BOE and the education of the future voters, taxpayers, and people of the county.

I remember when Blaine Young tried to barge into our contract negotiations, when Kirby Delauter shrugged his shoulders and no-showed for 2 ½ years at joint Board of Education meetings, and when Billy Shreve stormed out of the one meeting he didn’t skip.

http://www.adamumak.com/site/blog.html
http://www.adamumak.com/site/blog.html

richardlyons

Easy to tell when Kirby is lying; either his mouth is moving or he is signing a LTE someone else penned for him.

jrnewt

Unfortunately, this is the type of message we can expect from the majority of our BoCC. The Rovian tactic of “if you can’t dispute the message, attack the messenger” is alive and well if Frederick County politics. My only hope is that the average citizen is sick of this garbage. The ONLY reason this BoCC was elected is because of general voter apathy and the ability of the Republican Party to spin up enough voters when several national Democratic initiatives were able to pass into law. In the nearly four years this BoCC has been in position, we have been forced to endure attempts at the imposition of one commissioner’s “moral values” through the review of books ordered by the county library along with the “advice” to a struggling single mother that she should be at home raising her children, not working. We have watched ethics issue after ethics issue get swept under the rug. We have had our tax dollars given to developers, with no real hope for a return on investment. Our water bills have gone up so businesses didn’t have to pay for what they are using. We have watched as the Young BoCC pushed special projects through that will dramatically alter our way of life. Some groups have put up a very good fight, but so far the BoCC has bent laws and regulations far enough to get away with what they want. Now, an elected member of the BoCC feels justified in attacking a vocal citizen and taxpayer for standing up for his beliefs. Not only that, he uses a public forum to do it. When are we going to say ENOUGH! I know that the voters in Frederick County see this BoCC for what it is. My only hope is enough of them turn out for the elections to get these people out of office. I ask of those that have had enough to please talk to your friends and neighbors and get them to vote.

CommonSensePaine

Mr. Delauter, with his multiple nonsensical LTEs and the responses they evoke must not have heard the old "Bear Hunter" joke . It would appear he is not in the race for the hunting. Maybe he needs to rethink his goals and stay with running the family business. It's quite possible he is just kidding us. - Mr. Delauter, if I were a family member I would encourage you to pen another LTE simply saying "Just Kidding!".

rpkrauss

So let me get this straight. A young man earns his masters degree plus thirty extra graduate hours in order to obtain a promotion and a raise. In essence he takes personal responsibility for improving his life without government assistance and now he is being ridiculed for it by a tea party politician. Hahahahahahahaha gasp hahahahahahaha. Thanks Kirby I haven't laughed this hard in a while you are the best joke I know.

dex5291

[beam]

jgrose79

What is there to write about in displeasure? The man made a logical statement as to the pay increases of a school teacher who said raises were non existent. Everyone knows that teachers are getting raises. Yes, there was a pay freeze which was shown in the documentation provided. If you feel that you should be making a ton of money, then do something other than teaching. You get great benefits and summers off. I do not want to hear about the crybaby status of teachers. That they care about what they are doing as teachers and how important they are. We are all important cogs in the clockworks of life. Teachers should be happy with the fact that they have protected and insulated jobs from the horrible economy. The problem is that most are democrats who have been so insulated their entire lives they are too ignorant to understand how the rest of the public sector is doing financially. You don't hear me moaning about my construction pay at a BOCC meeting do you? No. I paid for college and I also paid for my continued education after college. I have witnessed for the past 4 years and counting and it is getting old to hear teachers moan about their pay when I am the one building their schools so they can have a job. Let them build their own schools then and see who is important and who deserves a pay raise. I'm sick of hearing them cry!

rbtdt5

Right, they get cola increases but they won't call that a raise.

caseylday

There have been no COLA increases for teachers or support staff in over 5 years. I can't remember the last COLA that was received.

jill king

But there has been step increases, correct?!

rationalfredneckian

Forget the facts for a moment. An elected official publicly called out a private citizen in the newspaper...is this how you want our county to operate? Delauter could have written the same LTE without singling out an individual, a teacher no less.

What if it were a Democrat elected official publicly criticizing you, by name, in the FNP? Is this the precedent we'd like to set? Regardless of your political stripes, does this seem like good government to you? Seriously, I want an answer.

dcdoc57

My thoughts exactly. A very unprofessional response by an elected public official!

caseylday

Jill- we got a step this past year and a half step last year. Nothing the other years.

caseylday

Wow- Jamie- feeling bitter? If you actually read Mr. Umak's comments (the transcript), you'd see that he never bemoaned his salary. The salary argument was brought up by Kirby. Here are Mr. Umak's comments, "You have created the most expensive budget in Frederick County’s history. But, once again, education in Frederick is less than important because of your consensual hallucination that FCPS can thrive in 2015 with 2009-era funding. FCPS has eliminated positions and salary steps, delayed technology and strategic improvements, and cut materials and school budgets... Our fight to prioritize education is no different than any other cause in Frederick. We have just been fighting longer." All of the things mentioned are true- steps and positions were cut, technology is lacking, and out budgets for materials of instruction have been slashed. Most of the speakers were talking about funding education as a whole- not teacher salaries.

chesapeakecountry

Due to the maintenance of effort law it is impossible to "cut materials and school budgets". Sure maybe the BOE (and not the commissioners) could juggle some funds from materials to another department internally but the total allocated for education has not gone down.

caseylday

I never said The allotted per-pupil expenditures have gone down. The problem is this –. When you are given the same amount of people in 2014 that you were given in 2008 something has to give. Things are more expensive than 2014 they were in 2008. It costs more to provide electricity, heating, air-conditioning, bus transportation etc. that are required to simply have the safe operation of a school. Once those required expenses are taken out of per-pupil funding, each year there has been less and less left over for basic materials of instruction. This is the problem with MOE funding.

Extra Ignored

But the percentage of the county revenue spent on education has gone down from 50% in FY 2013 to 47% in FY 2015.

caseylday

That was supposed to say "when you are given the same amount PER PUPIL" not 'of people'. Darn autocorrect...

dbjanda1

This LTE shouldn't have been about Mr. Umak, the one that 'earned Kirby's attention'

but an apology to the other speakers and attendees for not 'having earned Kirby's

attention'...Total Disrepect, I'd say !!!...Me

wtcarlin

Kirby, you remind me of the high school bully with the thin skin. No imagined slight is too small, no statement of fact too injurious. I hate bullies, and have made it a point to go at them straight ahead, as most of them are cowards.

Which one are you? You seem to relish taking on county workers and teachers, but I wonder how would do against a private citizen wealthy enough to buy and sell you. Oh, and btw, big enough to teach you some manners.

i4mopar

It would be nice if the facts were presented as facts. Teachers, support staff, are only paid for the days they work. Christmas break and Spring break are not paid holidays for these people. It would be nice to see truthful facts presented by elected officials!!!

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caseylday

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patmariegeraghty

Most dyed in wool Frederick County Republican voters refuse to see past their noses when it comes to canning these clowns because they vote strictly along ideological grounds. obviously it dosnt really matter to them the damage they help foist upon their county and themselves my doing so . ,as long as they are proudly represented my an (R) . I'm a registered Democrat ,and would vote out any Democrat in a hot minute that was conspiring with Business interests destroy my town. soil your own nest at your peril .

Extra Ignored

Kirby Delauter, think man think, until you wrote this letter only the people who attended the Frederick County Teachers Association pep rally on May 6 knew you had been implicated in any wrong doing.

Now everyone who reads the FNP knows too.

Extra Ignored

Truth is Mr. Umak said nothing about his own salary.

The following is a public comment I prepared and delivered to the Frederick County Board of County Commissioners at the May 6, 2014 Public Hearing on the FY 15 Operating Budget at Oakdale High School.

http://www.adamumak.com/site/blog.html

Boyce Rensberger

Umak got raises because he was promoted or earned greater teaching credentials by obtaining more education. That says nothing about the baseline salary that Delauter, Young and Shreeve keep flat. Frederick is the eighth wealthiest county in Maryland (as measured by per capita income) but 22nd out of 23 counties in pay for starting teachers.

In other words, we can afford to pay more, but the guys in charge refuse to do it.

Extra Ignored

Making teacher pay the sole parameter for measing the quality of education is wrong. The BOE could raise the starting salary but the teachers who are making $95,000 or more won't let it happen unless they get a raise too. Whats wrong with tiered raises?

Not every employer rewards you for education. There are people with PhDs driving taxi cabs.

The teacher's salary argument is a slippery slop because there are many teachers in other states such as Wisconsin who have seen their incomes decrease and Frederick County teachers are well paid compared to their Pennsylvania and West Virginia counter parts.

Meanwhile students are using textbooks that are taped together with barely enough for the classroom to share and handwritten worksheets that are photocopied.

Its not hard to be the top of the heap when the entire national education system is the bottom of the barrel.

"In mathematics, 29 nations and other jurisdictions outperformed the United States by a statistically significant margin, up from 23 three years ago," reports Education Week. "In science, 22 education systems scored above the U.S. average, up from 18 in 2009."

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/03/248329823/u-s-high-school-students-slide-in-math-reading-science

Boyce Rensberger

If only Frederick schools *were* at the "top of the heap." They are only middling for Maryland.

Dink King

Kirby,come on man that's the best you can do is write that sorry letter,wouldn't it have been easier to contact that man by phone or even email,ooooops I forgot your a member of the Blaine Young crew so you react just like a sissy ,did you forget the people put you where you are,and they can take you from there this coming election,just an fyi clowns such as yourself can only be a politician in Frederick anyplace else you would have been run out of town .

jgrose79

The only sissy here is the person who posts under an alias.

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Who is jgrose79 if not an alias?

newtofc

Read Kirby's threatening LTE again jg, that's why most don't want to use their real names. Besides, what do you gain knowing a commenters real name? To look them up and firebomb their house? What other use would it have? And anyone can fake a real name. Is your name really jgrose. Why do you want us to know that? I couldn't care less.

newtofc

You are a school system malcontent. And your rhetoric is as mean spirited and insulting as Kirby's. What is it about some of you on the Right. Can't carry on an adult conversation.

Luke Cage

Sweet Christmas! Delauter, you are seriously a little too thin skinned to be in public office. Do you nuts every time someone says something that doesn't fall in line with your own beliefs? It must be fun living in your house.
The thing about facts, and especially numbers, Delauter, is that they can be used in any way one needs them to be used. Your salary is what, $45,000 per year? How many hours a week do you actually work? I'm betting it's far less than 40 which is what the average person works. So what's your equivalent salary when divided DOWN to the hours you actually spend doing FredCo business? And no, whining about someone disagreeing with you in a letter to a newspaper that is not seen by roughly 80% of the residents of the county doesn't count.
Put your big boy pants on, Delauter, and act like a professional - not the smug, arrogant bully you look like in the picture of you on the BOCC website.

jgrose79

He doesn't look like a bully. He looks like a man who has a message he wants to get out. You can agree or disagree, but he put it all out there for you. Go cry a river somewhere else.

kaihagen

Your comments here are very amusing, Jamie.

chickey_soup

Kirby really doesn't seem to want to get reelected. I appreciate the time he takes to write things like this to the paper. It makes having to discredit him completely unnecessary.

Thanks for all the work you do campaigning for your opponents Kirby!

tllvryh

What an absolutely classless letter. While I may agree that the BOE budget continues to grow every year, to call out an individual in a public forum is void of all ethics and tact. Your failure to address the situation in a strictly factual manner overshadows any valid points which you may make. Truly 'tis better to be quiet and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

jgrose79

Are numbers not facts? He called the man out for his lies. Period. Get over your hurt feelings.

caseylday

The numbers are not facts when they are not presented factually.

BetterFrederick

People in Thurmont and Emmitsburg are kind. They care about their neighbors, and they listen to one anotheer. They value their schools because they are the center of the communities. No one agrees politically on every issue. Thurmont town hall meeetings are respectful, and the mayor and town council welcome citizen input. There is no place for Kirby Delauter's brand of mean in Thurmont or Emmitsburg. What a sad day for public service.

jgrose79

Kirby isn't mean. He is approachable and friendly. Maybe not so nice to people who try to publicly shame him at a meeting and then try to lie about their own pay. He did this to set the record right and I commend him for it. Good for him. We need people in office who aren't afraid to tell you what they think. Or do you support some lying democrat who decides to just tell you what you want to hear and do the opposite? Probably so.

Extra Ignored

The speaker didn't lie about his pay. He didn't even mention his pay.

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Given that hundreds of were people employed in the public sector were laid off in Frederick County, Maryland, during this high period of unemployment, how did Frederick County end up dippiing into its reserves to fund a deficit in FY 2015?

Continue to reduce and restructure the size of County Government regarding the budget and full time employees (FTE’s). Frederick County at its peak had 2,646 budgeted FTE’s. As of November 1, 2013, we have 2, 077 part-time and full time positions filled, with the goal to continue to reduce the size of government.

https://frederickcountymd.gov/documents/13/BOCC%20Accomplishments%2005.09.4pdf_201405141118176980.pdf

kaihagen

Uh...reduced the size of government? That's a sleight of hand bit of hogwash.

The county budget has increased every year under the Blaine BOCC. It is now $80,000,000.00 more than it was when they took office.

ONLY developers have received a tax cut (the excise tax, for roads), while a good chunk of the county has seen their tax rates go up.

Frederick County residents and taxpayers are paying more for less.

dollymommy

"By stooping so low, you only degrade yourself..."

---Laura (1944)

mark_murr1

This Letter To The Editor Is in very poor taste Mr. Delauter. While I may not agree with Mr. Umak's position or his antics at the BoCC meeting, I support his right to his own opinion and further, I find your rebuttal to be condescending and arrogant. You have simply lowered yourself to the same level as Mr. Umak. As a parent of a middle school age child in FCPS, I sincerely believe that after your comments, there is little hope of you becoming the liaison to the BoE.

dbjanda1

Kirby, here's alittle free advice, when you own a business the people work for you and

in a government elected position , you work for the people...GOT IT ???...Me

japorciento

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Boyce Rensberger

Aside from revealing that he doesn't understand what the Board of Education funding is about (see Adam Umak's comment below), Delauter reveals a nasty, vituperative personality unbecoming a leader.

Ask yourself whether Frederick County needs leaders who know how to bring people together or leaders who attack their constituents and their employees.

Extra Ignored

What is this a taxpayer, a voter, one of the people exercised their 1st amendment rights? Don't they realize this right is reserved for elected and self-appointed officials, the developers and their lawyers who yell out comments at public hearings, and tea party members who only say the right things? Until Blaine Young, Kirby Delaugter, Billy Shreve, and Paul Smith are gone it will remain that way.

How is it that Frederick County's recordation tax is the second highest in the whole entire state of Maryland if Kirby Delaugter is governing like a tax payer?

Makes homes anywhere but here look so much more affordable. Is the Blaine Young BOCC a traitor to their friends the developers also?

jerseygrl42

BIG BROOM IN JUNE!!!!!!

Extra Ignored

God bless us, everyone!

richardlyons

In the finest tradition of Blaine Young, Kirby resorts to attcking the very citizens he purports to represent. Cowardly and a bully. I can only hope the voting citizens of Northern Frederick County toss this loser out.

BTW how's that move to Pa coming along Kirby? Thought you'd be across the border by now.

doreenmcgill

In his days posting on the FNP comments, Mr. Delauter always had a distain for teachers. But, this rant this morning is a far cry from a private citizen voicing a private opinion.

Sitting Commissioner Delauter is completely oblivious to the high responsibilities of elected office. With this screed, he puts himself squarely in the company of the tinpot dictator lashing out and threatening any of his lowly subjects daring to challenge or criticize.

A truly disgraceful display in which Mr. Delauter makes it crystal clear that he is unfit for office!

frederickcountymaryland

Sept.16, 2010 Gazette quoted Kirby: "Blaine is exactly the right man we've got to have to change the direction of the county," he said. "I'm tired of being taxed to death, and I'm tired of businesses being treated unfairly." Clearly, Billy's main concern is for himself, his business. He's not concerned about his employees, I hear some won't be voting for Kirby. What happened to compassion for the taxpayer? Teachers, FCPS staff, and parents of students are taxpayers.

darththevader

Hmmmm. 66 comments and not one disputes and facts in the LTE

caseylday

I did in my comment below as did numerous others.

recordhigh

I don't think you read all the comments, but whatever. And a factually accurate LTE can still be ill-advised and full of petty, vindictive, angry language. That's what most people are objecting to.

jgrose79

It's because they relate to the teacher in agenda and ideology. Problem is, ideology is not facts. It's only propping up propaganda for teachers. That is the goal of the naysayers. The reason why they can't run a country or a county. Democrats are pathetic.

recordhigh

This isn't a Democrat/Republican issue. The letter is crass and vindictive and doesn't really make any bigger point than that, and you can't see that past your partisan ideology? Sad.

gcphoebus

I have not seen one productive comment in here. Funny thing about facts is that we can all cherry-pick facts to aupport our positions. Everyday and all issues, it never fails the attacks on Commissioner Delauter. You all criticize him for going after citizens when you push and push instead of trying to understand all points of view. I see none of you running for office, but being terrible MMQBs. When will I see your name on the ballot since your ideas and "common sense" are so prevalent. And this, oh, I wasn't talking about my salary. Well, Adam, if you worked in the private sector, you'd still have to pay for your education or credentialing renewals just like plumbers and electricians have to do. Nothing changes on the FNP comment sections because there are no real solutions just pandering to your union interests instead of taxpayers interests. You know, the ones who actually pay your salary.

recordhigh

LOL... But your comment, now that's pure productive gold.

So, you have to run for office to voice an opinion? Otherwise, we should all just shut up and bow down before the wisdom of our elected leaders? Did you get your civics lesson from the Kirby DeLauter school system?

And some private sector companies actually do pay for employee education, certifications, etc.

BetterFrederick

FCPS is the single largest employer in Frederick County. The school system employs over 5,400 teachers, staff, and administrators. They all pay taxes. And they vote.

jgrose79

Good for them. I pay taxes as well and pay for teachers. Guess what? How about I stop paying taxes for teachers along with everyone else who doesn't want to hear their crybaby routine? Then what will they do? How about I stop building schools for teachers? Boo Hoo!

caseylday

Umm Jamie- we build schools for kids- you know, those students like yours and mine... That's like saying we build roads for asphalt companies and hospitals for doctors. And maybe I'd like to stop having my tax dollar spent on bullying, unethical commissioners who are only in office to pad their wallets and sell off our county to the highest bidder.

armillary

But Jamie, they won't let you post comments from jail. You'll make new friends though.

OFMV

This is the first and last time I attempted to communicate with Mr. Delauter about Bureau of Labor Stats and was promptly told by Kirby that he doesn't need any facts to assess the cost/value of a Frederick County employee.

From: Kimberly Mellon [mailto:kimberlymellon@me.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 06:23 PM
To: Delauter, Kirby
Cc: BOCC County Commissioners; frederick@gazette.net
Subject: Re: Bureau of Labor Statistics Tables and Bulletins - Public v. Private Sector Benefits/Privatization

Mr. Delauter,

I appreciate your candor. Given the information provided in my first note, which includes the vital necessity of evaluating the total employee compensation package to fairly assess the cost and value of any position, public or private; I must now add that one would be outrageously unjust to base any permanent adjustments to Frederick County Employee benefits upon the biased statements of 'someone who knows someone, who says they do this, that or the other.' Mr. Delauter, did you also take the time to survey these same 'someone you know' about the rest of their pay structure, bonuses, overtime, weather layoffs, sick and health benefits? The Bureau of Labor Statistics did. They thoroughly canvas' these same small businesses for the data they have compiled, analyzed and now provide to you, the employer. You may view all of this data by region if you like. There is absolutely no excuse for selective ignorance on this important discussion. I am no subject matter expert, but I must live with your decisions and will make the time to educate myself on this as a taxpayer. It is an important task, which in years prior, I could depend upon my elected BoCC to do for me.

Contrary to your insinuations, I am calling into question the need to take away employee leave when we have not provided a raise to Frederick County Employees in how many years? If what Mr. Hose states is correct, we are already at the point where our local government employment packages are below other Maryland counties. This is not a good place to be from the vantage point of attracting and keeping the best and brightest, no matter what 'someone' may say. If the rest of the BoCC will please consider the public data, factoring it into information from Mr. Hose, a well documented and justified adjustment would be understood and accepted by all, including Frederick County Employees. They aren't asking anyone for special treatment in difficult economic times. Let's not continue to make them the enemy of a political mandate and push them into unions to negotiate on their behalf. If I as a taxpayer offend you sir, then you most certainly are not prepared for a more formidable opponent.

Thank you

Kimberly Mellon

On Sep 11, 2011, at 5:10 PM, Delauter, Kirby wrote:

Ms Mellon

I run a small business and know many people that are small business owners in Frederick and surrounding areas. All, not one or two or a few, voice their concerns over the generous pay and benefit package that this county and various other government entities provide.

I live it everyday, those are the facts.


Thanks again for your concern to over tax the private sector that provides the revenue for these benefits


Kirby

From: Kimberly Mellon [mailto:kimberlymellon@me.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 04:51 PM
To: Delauter, Kirby
Cc: BOCC County Commissioners; frederick@gazette.net
Subject: Re: Bureau of Labor Statistics Tables and Bulletins - Public v. Private Sector Benefits/Privatization

Mr. Delauter,

Please cite your "facts".

Thank you,

Kimberly Mellon


On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Delauter, Kirby wrote:

Ms. Mellon.

What I said was if we take a cross section of small business in this county, the county benefits are probably twice as much as a private sector employee recieves. That is a fact Ms Mellon. Just in holidays alone most private sector companies allow 6 holidays, a county employee recieves 13.

There are harmful and dangerous human consequences to over taxation as well.

Than you for your input.


Kirby

From: Kimberly Mellon [mailto:kimberlymellon@me.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 03:22 PM
To: BOCC County Commissioners
Cc: frederick@gazette.net
Subject: Bureau of Labor Statistics Tables and Bulletins - Public v. Private Sector Benefits/Privatization

Dear Frederick County Commissioners,

Respectfully, I would offer you the following information on related topics of which I sincerely hope you will refer.

With regards to Mr. Delauter's comments in the Friday Sept. 9th Frederick Gazette "...Commissioner Kirby Delauter (R),... said the recommended changes are better than what employees receive working in the private sector. “It’s still twice as much as the private sector,” said Delauter, who suggested the county look at the benefits provided by small businesses as a comparison."

Mr. Delauter, You are indeed entitled to your own opinion, however, no one is entitled to their own facts. There is no need to reinvent the wheel in Frederick County or to denigrate the value of your Frederick County Employees without providing facts. There are harmful and dangerous human consequences to such rhetoric of which I will also make reference to below. Real time private, civilian and government employment compensation data exists in every possible table configuration and newsletter for your review via the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics . Here are few you may find most helpful:

Economic News Release: Employee Benefits in the United States - July 26, 2011

Employee Benefits Survey Leave Tables - March, 2010

A quick review of this information on my part has failed to produce any data to support your statements that there are "twice" that of any benefits provided to local government employees as compared to their same position counterparts in private industry. To the contrary, most percentages appear to be within 5 percent of one another.

In addition, one cannot simply compare benefits to fairly assess the financial cost and value of an employee. You must consider the total wage/benefit compensation package local government offers. This data is also provided by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Employer Costs for Employee Compensation (ECEC) - News Release June 2011. Mr. Young may recognize the first paragraph for it's dramatic number as quoted on The Reason.org. However, the true benefit of the report is gleaned from it's entirety, in particular:


Benefit costs in private industry
Private industry employer costs for paid leave (vacation, holiday, sick leave, and personal leave) averaged $1.90 per hour worked (6.7 percent of total compensation), supplemental pay (overtime and premium, shift differentials, and nonproduction bonuses) averaged 80 cents (2.8 percent), insurance benefits (life, health, and disability insurance) averaged $2.27 (8.1 percent), and legally required benefits (Social Security, Medicare, unemployment insurance, and workers’ compensation) averaged $2.33 (8.3 percent). (See table A and table 5.)


and;

Technical Note:

"Comparing private and public sector data
Compensation cost levels in state and local government should not be directly compared with levels in private industry. Differences between these sectors stem from factors such as variation in work activities and occupational structures. Manufacturing and sales, for example, make up a large part of private industry work activities but are rare in state and local government. Professional and administrative support occupations (including teachers) account for two-thirds of the state and local government workforce, compared with one-half of private industry."

The Frederick County Board of County Commissioners is not charged with determining teacher wages or benefits. However, this BLS data, “digested” for Mr. Delauter in this ABC News Report Working in America: Public vs. Private Sector- Feb. 2011 may also be helpful as it shows the average salaries of local government employees as they relate to other government level employees.

With regards to Mr. Young's mandate to move to privatization of public services, it is critical, for the financial security of Frederick County, that a full and fair cost analysis of each specific detail of our current public services be documented and presented to taxpayers prior to any solicitation for privatization of current public employee jobs and that all solicitations be made public, as they are at the state and federal level. Beginning with a look back at the details of the Internationally owned Morrison Services Contract, current practices of the BoCC to this regard must be carefully reviewed for accuracy, fairness and public notice. Hidden information and misrepresentation of facts should not be tolerated from our elected officials or by our community. The "hybrid" water/construction inspection program must be presented to citizens in an open hearing with an explanation of how this was decided and what cost/risk studies were completed prior to obligating county taxpayers to this program. Transparency and full disclosure are the keys to the financial well being of Frederick County and it's local government employees.

Finally, on a political and most personal level I am compelled to reach out to ask you each to think carefully before you speak out against those who's livelihoods depend upon the decisions you make. The situation in Frederick County has become not unlike that of Costa Mesa, California, where strong willed determination to shrink local government, gentrify and devalue the rich cultural diversity in existence has become a matter of life and death. Please take a moment to read the New Yorker Letter from California Contract City - When a town's budget fight turned deadly. I will be most happy to reimburse you the price of the edition. You will identify yourselves in this very real story. Different hats or different names, but the people and the motives are the same. I would like to ask, which moral character will you be?

Thank you,

Kimberly Mellon

Thomask

The one thing that really comes through to me is how nasty Delauter is. He seems angry, vindictive and shallow. If he wins for CC, the county loses.

OFMV

Dear Commissioner Delauter, Who's next? Am I next because you don't like my opinions either? Remember the time friends alerted myself and the FNP that you had suggested, "Bury her sorry a$$" on Facebook? Last month at the MTC Hearings, after 10+ hearings of citizens speaking their concerns, you used your opportunity to speak to belittle the comments of those you found funniest or most extreme. Remember what I did? I objected loudly asking, "Mr. Delauter, Do you think these people came down here just for your entertainment?" Mr. Young threatened to have me removed for calling out your ridicule of citizens. My name is Kimberly Mellon. My salary is out there in the public realm. Blaine Young has already emailed my supervisor to object to my being an involved citizen. I'll look forward to your letter about me next week. Perhaps you and Blaine could do a series on all of Frederick County taxpayers you don't like. I'm guessing the list is long, so please condense them into paragraphs or hate lists and submit them to the FNP daily. Voters should know you have no respect for the office of public servant you hold. They deserve better. [angry]

squibmyer

If you are on duty right now, you are violating the Hatch Act.

OFMV

No reminder needed but thanks. [wink]

touscents

Kirby, Do you have no sense of govt ethics? You cannot talk about a non-public figure's employment history in an LTE, much less misrepresent it. you don't mention that raises may be tied to promotions. It seems with have three sociopathic bullies on the BOCC.

darththevader

Ummm...there is a link to FCPS and FredCo employee salary right in the FNP. It's public info

jgrose79

Typical liberal crying again about their salary being made public. Guess what teachers? You work for us as well. Start acting like it.

touscents

Oy vey; just because info may be available, it is not ethical for a govt official to publicly discuss a govt employee's salary information, especially when he is misrepresenting it.

OFMV

Dear Commissioner Delauter, Who's next? Am I next because you don't like my opinions either? Remember the time friends alerted myself and the FNP that you had suggested, "Bury her sorry a$$" on Facebook? Last month at the MTC Hearings, after 10+ hearings of citizens speaking their concerns, you used your opportunity to speak to belittle the comments of those you found funniest or most extreme. Remember what I did? I objected loudly asking, "Mr. Delauter, Do think these people came down here just for your entertainment?" Mr. Young threaten to have me removed for calling out your ridicule of citizens. My name is Kimberly Mellon. My salary is out there in the public realm. Blaine Young has already emailed my supervisor to object to my being an involved citizen. I'll look forward to your letter about me next week. Perhaps you and Blaine could do a series on all of Frederick County taxpayers you don't like. I'm guessing the list is long, so please condense them into paragraphs or hate lists and submit them to the FNP daily. Voters should know you have no respect for the office of public servant you hold. They deserve better. [angry]

jerseygrl42

Your commentary is spot-on!!!

jgrose79

I would write the same thing about you on facebook. You clearly need to get out of teaching if you think you aren't making enough money. Go find a job that pays more and offers more. You will not., You like your cushy little summer off and your benefits. So take your comments somewhere people care. It isn't here.

OFMV

I'm not a teacher but would be proud to be one. Especially one willing to speak on behalf of our children and schools.

caseylday

As a lover of facts and an FCPS employee for 20 years, I feel compelled to do some "fact checking" of Mr. Delauter's fifth paragraph in particular. I have added the. 'fact checking' in parentheses. "Keep in mind, this does not include top-of-the-line (decent- in line with other professional employees) health insurance (for which employees do pay a portion. That portion has risen nearly every year since 2008) , holiday pay (teachers are not paid for any holidays) , vacation pay (10 and 11 month teachers [which is everyone except a very few teachers specialists working in the central office ] receive no vacation pay), retirement benefits, pension benefits, [retirement and pension benefits are the same. The system is run by the state of Maryland and whether or not a teacher receive retirement benefits or a pension is based on the year when a teacher started working. I started 20 years ago and there was no longer a pension option. The state provides most of the funding for the retirement benefits. Each teacher is required to contribute to that retirement. The county also pays a small percentage. ) sick leave (Teachers get 10 sick days per year. ), a weeklong (The length is determined by the calendar committee ) Christmas break (which is unpaid), a few days for spring break (again, this is unpaid and the length is determined by the calendar committee), and only a nine-month work calendar (The calendar is actually a 10 month calendar. Teachers are considered contractual and work 190 days.). If his income was prorated for a full year’s workload (based on this school year's calendar, there are 46 days in the summer which teachers are not working and are not paid for.) he would be making the equivalent of $84,387 (applying his per diem rate of pay to those 46 days and adding them to his base salary, Mr. Umak's potential, should FCPS pay him for a full year, would actually be $75,076, which is pretty much in line, if not low, for the Washington metro area for a professional employee with 10 to 12 years of experience, a bachelors degree, a masters degree, and 30 additional post – baccalaureate graduate credits. However, because the school system has a 10 month calendar, Mr. Umak can not earn that money, but, as all teachers do, is essentially furloughed for the summer.). Facts matter – at least to some people.

Boyce Rensberger

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jerseygrl42

how can these items be considered "no Pay" when you are on a annual salary and get paid in that fashion

caseylday

According to the contract under which teachers work in Frederick County, teachers are hired for a specified number of days. "ten-month teachers shall work 190 days." The contract specifically outlines all benefits including sick leave etc. there are no paid holidays etc.

chesapeakecountry

Does your paycheck go down during holiday weeks - winter break for example? Just curious.

SaveFrederick

Another example of arrogant bullying by Delauter (cheered on by Marty Burns and other bullies). Don't miss that this letter is about crushing dissent. For the last 3 and a half years, Blaine Young regularly used his radio show to personally criticized people who came into the public forum to speak. Several of the commissioners have written these angry and abusive letters targeting individuals. The underlying message is if you disagree with this Board of Commissioners we will come after you personally and publicly. Note the name calling toward the President of the Frederick County Teachers Association. The intent is to crush dissent and discourage people from participating in the public process. Elected officials should NEVER behave this way.

How can anyone believe Kirby Delauter will work with anyone to solve a problem or balance the views of the public in a decision. He won't. He can't. It's his way or no way. He is a bully. He hasn't attended a joint BOE and BOCC meeting for two and a half years. Delauter is an embarrassment to the citizens of Frederick County.

Boyce Rensberger

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mburns

So now just because I support his position and not his delivery, I get the name calling coming my way. WOW. Kirby nailed this one, he's missed others, I call it both ways can you say the same.

NO

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patrick

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KellyAlzan

Notice this is the only LTE today! The FNP staff was all too happy to print this LTE as they know this LTE only allows Kirbie to expose his idioticy. FNP staff said "you wanna show how stupid you are, ok, go right ahead, Kirbie, go right ahead"! Clearly Kirbie does not want to be re-elected, and the FNP is helping him make that fact known.

patrick

"... arrogance, self-serving and inaccurate “testimony,” and borderline circus act ..."

Kirby, say hello to the mirror.

jerseygrl42

truer words never spoken

dex5291

THIS IS THE BEST COMMENT SO FAR![beam]

DebtFree

Republicans choosing not to adequately fund republican families public education in Frederick County amounts to betrayal, any parent that votes for a republican on the BoCC is in essence committing child neglect. Just my opinion.

snowman28

I tend to lean a bit left, but I would be quite happy with Republican David Gray earning the exec seat. Hey FredCo Dems...you have until June 3rd to switch party affiliations and vote in the primary!! Get the stooges out!!

jerseygrl42

same could be said for Dems in Annapolis who have raised our taxes and fees 81 times and transferred much of that money from our wallets to PG and BALT......do not make the mistake of castigating an entire party because of 5 clowns

Positive

"One speaker...earned my attention..." Sir, all Frederick County residents earned your attention when you accepted position as county commissioner. For anyone thinking of voting for Mr. Delauter, remember that this sitting elected official states that you must earn his attention before he will hear you. At a hearing.

FreddyFred

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caseylday

Exactly! We need elected representatives who actually represent the people.

jerseygrl42

where do you find them; inAnnapolis...NOT, in DC I don't think so

stinkyfarmer

I love this comment...

etown9799

Yeah, let's all elect the angry, bitter, spiteful guy who gets angry and then spews his animosity the second someone disagrees with him, and then issues threats. Cause that's worked well in the past.

guido207

Anyone who has ever been bullied in their lives knows what this filth from Kirby Delauter is really all about. Its about bullying someone Delauter doesn't like. Its about trying to intimidate Adam Umak and everyone else into the County into allowing Delauter (and Blaine Young) to continue to corrupt Frederick County and abuse their power.

I don't know about you, but I hate bullies. I hate bullies.

The last place we need a brutal tyrant is in elected office. Please join me in supporting Ralph Whitmore, republican candidate for District 5 County Council on June 24th.

patrick

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stuckon270

To clarify does this mean you are supporting Mr. Whitmore through the general election, or only the primary ?

vicdavy

Thank you Mr. Delauter for another "teachable moment".

armillary

Kirby's LTE proves that there's only one place in Frederick County Government that's not political. Only one place where a county employee can speak truth to power and not be fired. Only one place where retribution by petty, egotistical tyrants is not a daily threat. Kirby froths over, powerless to punish teacher Adam Umak for speaking the truth in a public hearing.

Where is the only non-political place in Frederick County Government? Frederick County Public Schools, and thank goodness for that.

patrick

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MsgrBonner

When I saw Mr. DELAUTER’s LTE , all I would did was wonder - WHY?

- Why is the FNP publishing his attack on this teacher, the head of the Teacher’s Association and over 1,000 citizens who attended a public hearing ?

- Why does the FNP publish letter after letter from a politician in an election year when LTE are not fact checked ?

- Why would anyone vote to let this man continue to hold any elected office after seeing what he and the other BOCC members have done to our school system, Headstart and our county ?

snowman28

I think it actually serves the decent residents of Frederick County well that the FNP published this letter. Anyone with half a brain will quickly realize that this is not someone worthy of a vote.

patrick

It's absolutely bewildering why the FNP publishes 1,000+ word political advertisement disguised as LTEs.

You have to ask yourself, "What is the FNP's game plan"?

It makes sense to let certain candidates take the lead in revealing themselves to the voting public rather than trying to describe them in a reporter's column.

It's like setting a spool of rope in an accessible location and letting the Kirbster, et. al., real off as much as they need.

FreddyFred

A new age of thuggery and intimidation here in Frederick County. We all know Kirby Delauter has anger management issues. This is the same guy that called a County employee a punk and stormed out of a meeting. Clearly, Kirby doesn't want to get re-elected. Frederik County can do sooooo much better than this sort of nonsense. Shameful letter in so many ways. Pathetic really.

guido207

Delauter is the "tax revenue gobbler." He literally gave away $191,000,000 of future Frederick County tax revenue to residential developers that County taxpayers will be forced to submit over the next 36 years.

Delauter raised property taxes on his neighbors in District 5 in Thurmont, Walkersville (5% each), and Sabillisvalle (15%).

And of course, Delauter is personally feeding from the taxpayer trough by secretly doing business with the County with his excavating company W.F. Delauter.

We must restore integrity and protect the taxpayer today! Vote Ralph Whitmore in the June 24th republican primary. He is an honest man who won't abuse the taxpayers or bully the voters.

armillary

After four years of total inaction
his seat in defeat from compaction
the proud and the few
of Blaine's travelling zoo
today Kirby's the main attraction.

mburns

Hold on one minute. OK I get it nothing this BOCC does is acceptable to some of you. But Mr. Delauter has pointed out that one of the biggest vocal critics about lack of funding for FCPS has gotten a 33% raise, and none of you give Mr. DeLauter any "cred" at all????

Adam doesn't dispute this part of the argument but goes into defensive posture (he earned it on his own). My question would simply be if Adam was able to better himself with more education and earn more money to boot, how many other teachers did the same?

At least give Kirby his due in that he makes a compelling argument. OK Adam points out he wasn't 100% correct, but he was were it counted.

I also think Adam should publicly acknowledge he's on the campaign for Jan Gardner so it taints (at least to me) his argument of the current BOCC, and taints his argument for the FCPS. He is also affiliated or on the Board of the Teacher's union (correct me if I'm wrong on that Adam but I believe that's what you told me).

All of those things, are FINE, and not meant to be derogatory at all, but for full disclosure it should be mentioned every time he speaks. It would be like a congressman vocally opposing President Obama then you find out he's a Republican Congressman....Of course you expect a Republican to oppose e Democrat, just like I expect a Teacher's union board member, and Jan Gardner campaign activist to oppose this BOCC and Mr. DeLauter.

In closing give Commissioner DeLauter credit, he nailed this one and makes a great point

kjswartz

Really?

I never heard that teacher mention Jan Gardner or David Gray once in the message below. Come to think about it, I don't recollect him ever saying anything about Jan, but only had thanks to David Gray for listening.

If citizens' own words are political ammunition,
I would look for a different battle.

mburns

Kjswartz...You made my point. He is serving to elect Jan (he told me so) and he is on the teacher's union board...again he told me so. I think that tid bit of information should be disclosed when he attacks those he wishes to put out of office. You can disagree, and I know why he doesn't because it's plain and clear he would lose some "cred" if he disclosed both, so he doesn't.

It's certainly his right to stay quiet, but I think full disclosure is appropriate. I'm 100% out there so no one can say differently of me

mllposey

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kjswartz

I would go so far to say that if this teacher was for a political group,
It would be "Anybody Except Blaime Young".

That includes Delaughter.

recordhigh

Why does it matter that he supports Jan Gardener? It's clear that he oposses Kirby DeLauter because he disagrees with his positions, beyond that why does it matter? Are you implying that he is being paid by Jan Gardener or that he has some sort of incentive other than a common cause with her to oppose Kirby. Personally I think you have politics backwards: people don't hold beliefs because they are a Republican or a Democrat, they become Republicans or Democrats because their beliefs align more closely with one party or the other.

And he didn't just get a 33% raise out of the blue, it was over 7 years (<5% per year), and he did things to earn those raises. That's not a bad series of raises, but it's not unheard of or even particularly uncommon. Anyway, singling out one person to use as an anecdote is pointless.

If you think commissioner Kirby deserves praise for this petty letter you will be in the minority today. And the only way that he "nailed it" was to put another nail in his political coffin.

mburns

I'm only the minority of posters, I may or may not be the minority on election day. It's all good, you have your opinion and so do I. The difference is that I give credit where credit is due and I blast the same people when they do wrong.

In this case, like it or not Kirby has a valid point. Also supporting Jan is one thing working on her campaign is another if you can't see the difference then Oh well.

To be blunt Jan couldn't have been elected Dog Catcher in Frederick County 4 years ago. She was smart enough to know that then, she faded away and then sprung back after people forgot all the turmoil her board created....sued by municipalities, proclaiming municipalities didn't care about schools, blasting the BOE and claiming they supported overcrowded schools, downzoning peoples property ruining them, downzoning property around municipalities to prevent any growth, zeroing out tax equity for municipalities as a threat to force us to adopt her overbearing political no growth policies.....DON'T FOGET HER BOARD FUNDED BOE AT MAINTENANCE OF EFFORT FOR TWO YEARS TOO.

Jan is intelligent, smart, nice and caring she's a great person, but it's the 20% I can't live with because she believes as most Democrats do that Government is the answer, I happen to disagree

recordhigh

No. Working on her campaign, supporting her, and voting for her are all irrelevant. As a private citizen, Adam is entitled to voice his opinion in a public forum without including those things as disclaimers or justifications. It sounds like you want him to preface every statement with that disclaimer so you can dismiss his opinion as being disingenuous or influenced by some partisan incentive.

mllposey

Again, I agree, Marty. I'm sure she is a fine daughter, mother, sister, friend -- just not my idea of a leader. I don't want to see a repeat of her past performance and you made up a very good list there of what she put our county through...

mllposey

The only thing I would add, Marty, is how hard she fought to move WTE forward - I realize she voted against the location - but all credit is due to Jan Gardner who stepped up to the plate in support of the technology and the county process. If we still had Carroll County as a partner and WTE was right on track as when she left office, I have to wonder if Jan would even have thrown her hat in the ring to run for CE.

mllposey

Left out that on Jan's work for WTE, I still applaud her to this day...

jerseygrl42

...and lets not forget who brought us the incinerator ( and its unfortunate that Young refuses to acknowledge the fact that the county has been hoodwinked by the waste authority ) which will cost $3 Billion to operate and pay back the debt ( which MM says we don't have to but he obviously hasn't read pg 12 of the Energy Recovery Agreement signed by Jan) and we will have more toxic ash to haul/bury than all of the County's trash to start with

SaveFrederick

Marty... entirely disagree. While Jan Gardner is not perfect, she was and will be a thousand times better than this Board. She also would have been re-elected in 2010 if she had run and would have added some much needed balance to this board. She has always supported education. My question - If you think government is not the answer to public education, who and what is the answer? Do you think the private sector should step up and address public education needs in some kind of consistent way? What is your solution to multiple years of flat funding Marty? And, really......you agree with this letter attacking a citizen? I am losing all respect I had for you. You are a government employee too. The taxpayers support you and your family. I bet you have better benefits and pension than FCPS teachers and other staff yet you don't want teachers to get the respect, pay or benefits that you get. Now how hypocritical is that? If you think government is not the solution, then quit your job and your position as a Thurmont Commissioners. Go work in the private sector ( and not a government contractor- also supported by tax dollars) and find the solutions instead of being so strongly tied to the government you seem to think is the problem.

mburns

SAVE...I do agree with you that those essential services should be funded and I believe that schools are essential I actually think it's time to look at funding the school more, but I'm equally happy that they have shared the pain with everyone else by staying at MOE for some time....I think everyone feels the same but i think people disagree whether or not now is the time to raise their funding. So they've done their time and now it's time to give them more.

caseylday

This is another example of writing without a full understanding of the issue. The FCPS salary scale for teachers has three lanes. Teachers are placed on one of the three lanes based on their education and degrees held. One Salary Lane is for teachers who have a bachelors degree. The second lane is where teachers are placed once they earn their masters degree. The final lane is for teachers who have their Masters degree +30 additional graduate credits, or 60 credits post bachelors degree. Mr. Umak, in the time between 2008 and 2013, completed the additional 60 credit hours to move to the third Lane. This accounts for the income change, as his placement in the scale changed due to his increased educational history. There is no further salary lane to which Mr.. Umak can move in the current salary's schedule. Knowing that this BOCC was set on flat funding for numerous years, many teachers who had the financial ability went ahead to complete the additional credits to move to the +60 Salary lane. Most of these credits were paid for entirely by the teacher, as I know mine were, and not by the school system. If Mr. Delauter would have looked at a teacher who did not change placement between lanes on the salary scale, he would have noticed a very different story, which is the case for most of our teachers. I looked at one particular teacher and found that from 2008 to 2013, this teacher had only a 5% increase. Averaged over the six school years that that represents, this is less than 1% per year. This is the situation for most of the teachers,

In addition, most of the speakers, including Mr. Umak, spoke not just about salaries, but about funding for the entire system. The biggest concern is that school staff have less percentage of money to be able to meet the needs of students on a daily basis than they had in 2008. This is due to the fact that everything simply costs more in 2014 than it did in 2008. Teachers, business leaders, other school staff, and tax payers resoundingly gave the same message to the BOCC at that hearing. Mr. Umak and Mr. Brennan, who are both demeaned in this letter, are also Frederick County tax payers and voters. They have every right to make comments to the Board of County Commissioners. That is the basic foundation of our representative form of government here in the county. To vilify them for speaking their beliefs and providing their testimony, cheapens the very structure of our county government. Mr. Burns, the only point that Mr. Delauter makes, is that his disdain and hatred of the educators and education system in our county is very real and uninformed and that he is not above providing misinformation in a public forum in order to achieve his agenda.

snowman28

Adam, and FCTA, also support David Gray...a Republican....so this isn't a partisan thing. They, along with MANY others, are just sick of the shady dealings and contempt the Four Horseman of the Fredpocalypse continue to demonstrate.

squibmyer

They "Support" Gray because of who he is opposing in the primary (possibly entering the race at the urging of someone in the Gardner camp?).

Don't have any illusions that such support will remain one second IF (and that's a big IF) Gray wins in June.

SaveFrederick

So Marty - you support bullying tactics? Can't someone public speak without it being ascribed to others - individuals, organizations, or candidates? Are you posting on here because your candidate Kirby Delauter or Blaine Young asked you to do so? Are you on their campaign committees? Or, are you just representing your own views?

Do you honestly think a seated elected official should write a letter to the editor like this? Do you honestly think it is good leadership to bash an individual in a public setting?

Didn't Delauter himself just asked the Mayor of Thurmont to apologize to him for a public comment he made? Is there anything positive Delauter wants to do for this community? Do you support his tax increase on the citizens of Thurmont? Why would you defend such bad behavior and failed leadership?

mburns

I do NOT agree with his delivery, I agree with his position. That difference is not a small one.

mllposey

I agree, Marty.

jakinnaird

"I also think Adam should publicly acknowledge he's on the campaign for Jan Gardner so it taints (at least to me) his argument of the current BOCC, and taints his argument for the FCPS."

", but for full disclosure it should be mentioned every time he speaks."

Good point Marty, but maybe you should also disclose who you support whenever you post a comment here.

John A. Kinnaird, undecided.

mburns

John, I already have. I support Blaine Young. I certainly don't agree with him or this board on everything they have done but they have done more for the residents of Thurmont from a policy standpoint than the Gardner board did.

If I were speaking at a public venue, I would say so. Do you support Kirby? It's easy to hide behind "undecided"

Do you consider posting on a privately owned blog a public event? How can you say that to me when you publicly used the Mayor's Office to make your "undecided" stance clear about Mr. DeLauter.....no one believes you are undecided about him, yet you claim to be undecided? Come on John really?

jakinnaird

Yes Marty, undecided.

John A. Kinnaird

jamesangerett

Thank god you are our Mayor and you bring Civility to our town now John

recordhigh

Wow,