The editorial which appeared in the July 5 edition of the Frederick News-Post (Hagen wrong to interfere in traffic stop) has me disagreeing with the paper.

First, in light of many Black motorists being shot to death by aggressive police throughout the United States, I can can see why a citizen would check on the “lawful duties of a deputy.” Just ask the average Black man how he feels when pulled over. In this situation, do you think he would scream to a passerby if he was being held without cause?

Second, how did Councilman Hagen know, in advance, that the deputy “made the stop based on a clear violation?” It is reported that he didn’t think the driver was speeding, so, in his mind, why was he being pulled over? Aren’t we taught “When you see something say something?”

Third, it is reported that Sheriff Jenkins “suggested Hagen broke the law, which could have led to the councilman’s arrest...” This sounds rather draconian. The only interference I can see from the reports is one citizen, at a distance, asking another being stopped by an authority if he or she is OK. This should be allowed in the free country we say we are. We are, aren’t we?

John R. Brehmer

Frederick

(17) comments

Rockfish

[yawn][yawn] My opinion of this letter & comments [yawn][yawn]

Awteam2021

“ Driving while Black.” A common understanding and discussion in the Black Community. Black people continually face danger behind the wheel, and it's rooted in history. There are plenty of examples, reports and documentaries.

Let me know when baring witness or questioning a police stop has risen to a criminal offense. Or being suspicious of a police stop or even arrogance. Of course most encounters don’t lead to police shootings but there are plenty of unjustified stops... only for being Black, especially driving in the wrong area.

But I do question the Sheriff’s motives. 10 days after the event he called into a local radio station to report the non-event. He said he had no other recourse. So I can only guess, Jenkins being a competent law enforcement agent, it wasn’t criminal or he would had taken immediate action. Right? Was it political grandstanding against someone he doesn’t like?

HappySeller2014

This is an absolutely ridiculous letter to the editor. Simply hilarious.

Blueline

Yada, yada, yada John. Have you heard that they landed on the moon, or is that next week's letter?

jsklinelga

My apologies Mr. Brehmer. I try to support folks who write Letters to the editor. Far too often they are greeted with undeserving hostility. But this letter contains some questionable logic.

First though, congratulations. Your view that nationally Black motorist are being shot and killed by aggressive police officers most likely captures Mr. Hagen;s thinking.. But the mere suggestion that this is standard practice, one so standard that it is the duty of citizen's to [protect black motorist from LOE's whenever they see them stopped is simply outrageous. And it is a slap in the face to not only the local LEO's but also to the citizens of this county who elected the Sheriff.

But the logic of the second paragraph is mind boggling. You suggest Mr. Hagen, or any citizen should stop and question an officer if they did not see a clear violation like speeding. I am at a loss for words.

It is understandable why no charges were initially brought but this incident has grown in the public's eyes. If this action was unlawful, and Mr. Hagen is not charged, that would be outrageous. Is he above the law?

schaeferhund

Put this in your logic pipe and smoke it:

The following countries have the highest numbers of police killings in the world, based on the most recent data available:

Brazil – 6,160

Venezuela – 5,287

Philippines – 3,451

India - 1,731

Syria – 1,497

United States – 1,099

Nigeria – 841

El Salvador - 609

Afghanistan – 606

Pakistan – 495

jsklinelga

schaferfund

Not sure if you are supporting my point or disagreeing.

"Police pull over more than 50,000 drivers on a typical day, more than 20 million motorists every year."

gabrielshorn2013

Citation(s) please?

schaeferhund

This is the rate of police killings by population (per 10 million). Where should we be? Do you want the United States to be like Europe or Central America? I'd say citizen witnesses may be warranted.

Switzerland 0

Denmark 0

Iceland 0

Japan 0.2

United Kingdom 0.5

Poland 0.5

Taiwan 0.8

Portugal 1

Germany 1.3

Hong Kong 1.3

Nepal 1.7

Australia 1.7

Norway 1.9

New Zealand 2.1

Netherlands 2.3

Indonesia 2.9

France 3.8

Finland 5.4

Sweden 6

Canada 9.7

India 12.54

Luxembourg 16.9

Malta 20

Egypt 21.2

Argentina 21.6

Eswatini 22.1

Pakistan 25.2

Bangladesh 28.3

United States 28.4

Mexico 30

Rwanda 31

Sudan 32.1

Mali 32.3

Colombia 34.1

Angola 34.7

Iran 36.6

Kenya 43.5

Nigeria 44

Iraq 45.1

DR Congo 47.8

Burundi 53.9

Saint Lucia 56.2

Burkina Faso 60.4

Uruguay 63.4

Lesotho 63.8

Central African Republic 64.4

South Africa 76.9

Honduras 110.2

Dominican Republic 131.8

Guyana 152.5

Afghanistan 170.5

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 181.8

Bahamas 275.7

Brazil 293.2

Trinidad and Tobago 339.7

Jamaica 472.7

Palestine 508

Nicaragua 522.7

Philippines 542.9

Syria 831.6

El Salvador 954.5

Venezuela 1632.7

pdl603

Simple, if when pulled over you fully cooperate with law enforcement 99.9 percent of the time ‘Driving while Black’ isn’t a problem. If you give a big mouth, resist, do not obey a lawful command, then that is when the motorist escalates the situation. Think about it. Kai placed both the deputy, the motorist, as well as others driving, in danger during his unlawful act. He needs reprimanding from our weak kneed county council and executive, but alas nothing will happen whilst a D as party affiliation is behind his name.

public-redux

I take it that you regard your hostility to the author as deserved. Just like every other commenter.

shiftless88

It is so funny how he pretends to be logical and dispassionate rather than the partisan hack he/she is

public-redux

I disagree that Mr. Kline is partisan. His positions are too disjointed. I’d say “supercilious” is more apt.

shiftless88

jsk; do you think it is wrong for people to stop to witness police activity? Should we all just move on? Remember that if you say that, then you also are removing the people who have stopped to help a LEO in trouble.

Plumbum

I’m going to start stopping at every possible traffic stop I encounter. Video rolling. Call me Plumbum Hagan.

JSK

Either you aren't praying hard enough or god is just being a Dick? I haven't decided which yet? But see us gods can be mischievous at times..so you never know do you?

Well carry on.....and maybe try praying in a different room? I hear god likes it when you pray from the kitchen while fixing him a snack..,,I think god likes pretty much the same things you do, so he would be fine with anything you fix?

JerryR

Whack-o!!! Aye Carrumba!!

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