This is in response to the immigration issues raised in Mr. Bugg’s letter of Oct. 8; in particular, the premise that our country was built by immigrants who entered it legally.

I believe those who rely on that argument are glossing over some key facts in our history. Let’s go back to the beginning of the USA. Who actually erected our buildings, including The White House?

Who enabled our young country to develop a healthy economy by tending and reaping our main cash crops of cotton and tobacco? Immigrants from Africa and probably elsewhere, who did not come to our shores in what we would, today, think of as a legal manner. When my grandparents came here, there were practically no immigration barriers. Maybe disease. My grandparents made shoes, worked in the silk mills of Paterson and the steel mills of Pittsburgh. They went to West Point and spent their lives serving. They worked as maids and masseuses and accountants in Seattle and Cleveland. And that’s just my family history in the early 20th century.

These days, it seems like there are more refugees than citizens, all over the world. I don’t know the answer to this dilemma, but I’m guessing it’s not enforcing draconian regulations that end up separating families no matter what the age. I also can’t help but wonder what we’re afraid of in opening those southern borders a tad. Is it really so terrible to make it more lenient to enter our country and tend our crops and clean our houses and windows and clip our shrubs and mow our grass and paint our picket fences? It’s across the northern border that many drugs of abuse come from. And it’s disenfranchised white male Americans who go on shooting and killing rampages. So what exactly is the fear? MS-13? That’s valid.

Using up our taxes in the form of welfare? Not so valid. Most illegal immigrants actually pay into Social Security programs, but with fake SSNs, meaning they never will use benefits because they really don’t have valid numbers. Yes, some of these illegal immigrants are horrendous and shouldn’t be let into any country. But I know some citizens who are like that.

I don’t know the answers, but I sure know our country was built mainly by immigrants who were dragged here in chains, or whose countries had suffered famine or devastating poverty. The majority were treated like trash. But they kept at it, and here you and I are now.

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KellyAlzan

Bugg’s letter was pure disinformation. And the FNP needs to step up to the plate and stop publishing letters that are pure disinformation. It’s not helping society

jerseygrl42

You need a fact check, Illegals paid $9 Billion in taxes in 2017 while the taxpayers paid $160 Billion to support them...these numbers according to Yale/MIT study released early this year...and the shame of people being brought here against their will is the shame of families who sold them into bondage in many cases for trinkets and those who brought them to our shores , the slave traders from the middle east and europe

awteam2000

Can you identify that study you are referring to. Are you talking about the study I included mark below? Might you be mistakingly inputting data that not in the study?

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0201193

gabrielshorn2013

So dick, you counter Jersey's argument with two far left organizations? FAIR is deemed a hate group by the discredited and far left SPLC. Vox is also far left. You need some credible references bud.

DickD

The first one was not left, it was the website Jersey got her information from and it isn't true.

gabrielshorn2013

vox news left bias: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/vox/

DickD

Okay, Jersey, you copied these lies from FAIR, a known right wing hate group.  And if you had of checked farther you would have known how wrong it is.Here is your web site:https://www.fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayersHere is a better more honest web site: https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17229018/undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes. That doesn’t even include workers who paid taxes with fake Social Security numbers on their W-2 forms, which is also common.These undocumented workers pay taxes for benefits they can’t even use, like Social Security and Medicare. They also aren’t eligible for benefits like the earned income tax credit. But the IRS still expects unauthorized immigrants to file their taxes, and many of them do so.

awteam2000

An earlier comment said, “ It is the same white males, influenced by their white female mates, that produced a revolutionary new government that proclaimed : " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights." The commenter neglected to mention on the backs of enslaved male and female laborers and the poor male and female immigrants from all over the world.

Wasn’t the first to sacrifice their life for that proclamation not a white male? ‘Crispus Attucks’.just sayin’, the invention of our democracy, our Republic wasn’t exclusively a white male invention. No, it is and always has been an inclusive immigrant experiment.

Dwasserba

"The majority were treated like trash. But they kept at it, and here you and I are now." Love it. I wonder why it's so hard not to acknowledge this and treat the next people better. It's as if without the initial hazing, you can't really become a Murican.

jsklinelga

Sheryl,

One statement; "And it’s disenfranchised white male Americans who go on shooting and killing rampages." seems to display a bias for blame so typical in our society. To often we hear of the villainous white male that created all our problems. It is the same white males, influenced by their white female mates, that produced a revolutionary new government that proclaimed : " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights." This was an astonishing, revolutionary concept founded on our Christian heritage. It was the foundation for social change that led to the America of the 21st century.



But this government was founded on a system of laws designed to "establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty for ourselves and our prosperity.."

A system of laws. Certainly your grandparents obeyed the laws. Certainly they went through the system to become citizens. Certainly they assimilated into our society not requiring that our society change for them I would bet my bottom dollar they did not disparage our founders/ They had no government social welfare but they survived and prospered. They are the American story, They were able to tend their own crops, clean their own houses, mow their own lawn and paint their own picket fences.

marinick1

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Dwasserba

I realize you addressed this to Sheryl, but I've posted before that I researched others' genealogy. I am related to some by adoption and some not, and for a time it filled my own history vacuum. I can name a town founded by two brothers I consider impish rogues, for stowing away to get here, first, then getting into trouble at their first settlement, fleeing (escaping?) to another and starting anew. Voilà, the narrative changes and their birthday is celebrated by the many many related and not, on the very property most believe was where their history began. If you consider a stint in jail as no "social welfare" in that history then what you suggest is accurate. It's as if you can't be a Murican without enduring hazing first, believing no one who might have spawned you deserved it in others' eyes. And maybe they did! But rose above it to make a far more interesting story.

phydeaux994

You can’t be a Trump supporter and at the same time support the Constitution and the Rule of Law, or justice, domestic tranquillity, and unity, or Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

rikkitikkitavvi

That's YOUR opinion phydo. 64 million people in this country disagree with you. Say it to our faces.

DickD

Jim, you manage to obfuscate the truth to the point of being obnoxious.

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rikkitikkitavvi

He couldn't. You cornered the market powers.

smassaros

The disenfranchised White males issue - no bias on my part - this is simply drawn from the facts that nearly all mass shootings in our country have been committed by this part of the population. You watch the news, right?

niceund

Opening up the southern border "a tad"? What's "a tad"? As usual, a liberal "a tad" out of touch with reality.

rikkitikkitavvi

I visualize NO liberals.

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Rick Blatchford

And who resorts to name callin'???

phydeaux994

Don’t you and your wife depend and benefit even a little bit from Liberals rikkitikkitavvi.

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Rick Blatchford

Gotta be riled up to settle down. Don't think you can get me there. Ya can't even spell. [wink][beam]

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KellyAlzan

Rick. That’s all u got? Spelling? Wasnt it you you wrote a piece here that backfired up in your face recently?

DickD

You certainly will not find one looking in the mirror, ric.

phydeaux994

It didn’t become illegal to cross the Southern Border until 1929, but then only a “tad”. Workers could enter legally through “points of entry” but had to pay to do so. So they just continued to cross as they had for Centuries, but now they were “illegal”. The Southern Border has been closed in name only. It has never and will never be closed. It can’t be enforced, just like the Gulf Coast and the East Coast and the Canadian Border and the Pacific Coast can’t be enforced. Anybody that thinks the Southern Border can be closed isn’t a Liberal. Liberals want Comprehensive Border Reform that deals with American employers need for foreign workers and aid for Central American Countries to keep their citizens home.

smassaros

Yep, I figured I’d get flack over that tad. I don’t know the answer. You are absolutely right to point it out.

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