Watching a marionette performance is always enjoyable. We are amused by the figures pulled by strings as they sing, dance and say amusing things. The talented entertainers make those small, lifelike people seem alive. But it is a whole different story when humans become marionettes and their strings are pulled by disgruntled, despairing, unreasonable other humans.

The Republicans who quashed the abortion rights bill in the Senate have pulled the strings of their comrades and disparaged the rights of females everywhere in this country. This manipulation is absurd, unreasonable and unintelligent. It appears that no Republican Senator can think for himself. Those who cannot think for themselves (think of whatever the evil and manipulative Mitch McConnell rants) have no sense of responsibility to the voters who elected them, and they decline to consider their mothers, wives, children and others of the female gender. Shame on them, and I am not forgetting that ogre Joe Manchin, who is posing as a Democrat but is deep down a hypocrite. The “marionette” Senators just obey orders and are fearful that not following the party line will hurt their chances of being elected again or being ostracized by their obedient and faithful Republican colleagues. Shame on all of you!

If you are running for reelection in November, I hope the intelligent voters in your state remember that you have no mind of your own, so how can they trust you to protect and defend their rights? What has happened to not only your freedom to do the right thing for the people you represent but for women everywhere? When you return to your state to face your constituents, I challenge you to go to those women you have been denied access to abortion rights.

Take a good look into the future and decide how you will handle children born to children, women who have no financial support, and women who are desperate for a home for their new family. Do you have any solution to these and other problems arising because your strings were pulled?

Alice Haber

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(43) comments

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

I forget. Is Xiden a marionette or a puppet?

bhall74

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olefool

Thanks a lot bhall, now take your place with whisky..

olefool

Neother...... He's your President and Commander in Chief of the United States of America. Take your place at the back of the line Skippy.

veritas

Today's opinion page has been largely devoted to an eco chamber of rabid secular progressivism. The LTEs from Mr. Bohrer and Ms. Haber, and the BOC column by Ms. Weller demonstrate through their seething rhetoric that the left does indeed sense its woke designs for a new world order are slip-slidin' away. As always with lefties, their opponents are not just of a different view, they are evil incarnate. They've been spouting their smears for so long now that they are the only ones listening. (Hark, November 8 draws nigh.)

bhall74

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public-redux

Have you learned your lesson yet about “murder”?

shiftless88

Veritas (sarcasm! You do not tell the truth); which President has actually called the other side evil?

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

Did that comment include the words "Ultra MAGA" shifty?

jsklinelga

veritas

slip sliding new world order! I have seen many arguments about a women's right to chose but few defending SCOTUS' legitimate authority for rendering Roe in the first place.

public-redux

Here’s one: Roe, whilst poorly reasoned, was the correct outcome. It protected individuals from authoritarian state governments and minorities from authoritarian majorities. Given that Americans are secure in their houses, papers, and effects, it seems consistent that they would also be secure in their persons. If only the Fourth Amendment had included”persons”.

Wait a sec….

The “new world order” is treating ZEFs as persons which runs counter to all of Western civilization.

WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot

Doesn't Obamacare exclude abortions, or am I thinking of the Hyde amendment that Congress quietly tacks onto the spending bills every year?

TrekMan

Good Lord, not another of Alice Haber's rants!! Just like her nose this is her opinion! Isn't it ironic that her rant appears next to Patricia Wellers column stating that judging others is not our job?? Alice needs to read it!! However, I'll say this, although it is Ms. Haber's opinion, I'll defend her right to have it although I'm not sure she'll defend ours. That's the ultimate question!

jsklinelga

TrekMan

" I'll defend her right to have it although I'm not sure she'll defend ours. That's the ultimate question!." Amen

There isn't anyone who thinks abortion will be across the board illegal in the US. A blanket restriction that ignores one side would be almost as erroneous as the original decision that issued a blanket opinion that was contrary to almost every State Law.

bhall74

jsk, while what you say is in all likelihood 100% true, you won't get any of the pro-murder activists to acknowledge it much less say it because it would destroy the big fear narrative of refutable lies they are spreading.

gabrielshorn2013

Pro-murder activists, bhall? Hyperbole. It’s not murder, by definition.

mur·der

/ˈmərdər/

noun

1. the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

"the stabbing murder of an off-Broadway producer"

verb

1. kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.

"somebody tried to murder Joe"

TrekMan

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bhall74

gab, murder is the killing of an innocent, unborn baby in my book. Are you saying that you don't believe the killing of an unborn baby is murder?

public-redux

bhall, And if you believed that killing a 12 year was not murder, then it wouldn't be? Words have meaning. A legal abortion is not, by definition, murder.

gabrielshorn2013

Well, that's your book, bhall. In law books it is not murder. I have already expressed that as a Libertarian, I believe that a woman has dominion over her own body, thus it is her right to choose whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. It may be unfortunate that such a choice is made, and I may not agree with the choice, but it is not my choice. It's hers. You and I have already discussed the usual scenarios of rape, incest, and threat to the life of the mother, which are all valid reasons for choosing to abort a pregnancy, including if the fetus is so severely affected that it would be unable to survive past birth. I also provided you with numbers of such pregnancies that occur. Do you disagree with aborting a pregnancy under those circumstances too? Is there no circumstance where such a choice can be made?

bhall74

public, so you are all about legality, right? So, if SCOTUS overturns Roe v. Wade and says it is a state decision, that is therefore "legal" and you're okay with it, right? Therefore, if the citizens of each state make their preferences regarding abortion known to their legislatures and their legislatures enact an abortion law that is in conformance with the majority of the citizens wishes, that's therefore "legal" and you're okay with it, right? If some states choose to have a referendum that the citizens vote on, then that's "legal" and you're okay with the result, right? If some states decide that abortion of an unborn baby after the point of viability is murder, that's therefore "legal" and you're okay with it, right?

public-redux

bhall, I'm glad that you've made headway on understanding what "murder" is and isn't and the importance of the rule of law. Your approach is akin

to anarchy.

gabrielshorn2013

I believe that Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Susan Collins (R-ME) have a bill in committee that preserves a woman's right to choose, that Democrats, and a few moderate Republicans can support.

shiftless88

That is a red herring that they pose so they can pretend they are supporting the rights of women but actually are not because they know it won't fly. Republicans did this with term limits back in Newt's contract with america days; each republican could vote on one of several, separate bills supporting term limits knowing none of them would pass. It's just political cover.

gabrielshorn2013

Really? How do you know, since it has not reached the floor? If all the Democrats support it, and the sponsors vote for it (why wouldn't they since it's their bill), that's 52-48. Sounds like a win to me.

public-redux

The side with 48 will invoke cloture. That requires 60 votes. Cloture is a vote to end the discussion so a vote on the bill can proceed. You can't vote on the bill if the discussion hasn't ended and you can't end discussion without 60 votes.

shiftless88

You are correct that I do not "know" it, but their reasons for not supporting the existing bill were flimsy at best and substantial changes will lose a lot of Dem votes. I have watched Congress operate for a while, as have you, and know how this works. Something so they can go back and tell their constituents they are pro-life as they try to prevent getting hammered for the packing of SCOTUS with judges who clearly were going to vote to overturn Roe.

gabrielshorn2013

Understood, public. However, the bill by the two senators sounded like several Republican Senators, as well as Joe Manchin would get onboard. From the moderate Senators that voted "no", the reason they states was that the proposed law that they voted against went far beyond the Roe decision. If Democrats are willing to accept something instead of nothing (and its consequences) 60 votes is possible.

shiftless88

Gabe; in my view that is naive. Republicans will NOT codify the right to abortion nationally, period. Even with some restrictions. If it looked like it was going to pass then a number of senators would pull back. There is just no way that the Republican Party can politically pass a national law allowing abortion. It is not tenable. They have been arguing that it is up to states, so how would they defend this to their constituents? They cannot.

public-redux

gab, Like shiftless, I sincerely doubt there are 10 GOP votes in the Senate for anything that could and would be painted in a 30 second ad as “pro-abortion”. But I’m curious who you think the other 8 are.

bhall74

Sorry Alice, but in reality, no Democrat Senator except Joe Manchin appears capable of thinking...at all. Republicans demonstrated their ability to think and recognized that what Senator Schumer was doing with the abortion bill was nothing more than wasting the Senate's time while he sent a message to the useful idiots who vote for Democrats. It would appear that you are another Democrat who is unable to think for yourself.

Greg F

Manchin is not a democrat.

Hayduke2

Too funny bhall... Your party of choice is frightened by a con man who has taken control and too afraid to think for themselves or act independently... Bet those WV residents suffering from black lung have a different opinion of Joe Manchin, the coal barron.

bhall74

haybale, feeling better now that you've had your rant?

jsklinelga

Ms. Haber,

Pulling strings? Puppets? The bill you reference is a clear example of why the majority of people in this country will vote Republican in 2022. The bill was so extreme it did not even get the voles of pro choice Republicans. It never had a chance of passing. It was worthless except for political posturing.

This manipulation is absurd, unreasonable and unintelligent. .

Greg F

I seriously doubt it will be a landslide.....republicans are on the path to being a Nazi regime....no doubt.

TrekMan

Put down the lithium Greg!!

olefool

Wake up jsk, "majority of people in this country will vote Republican in 2022" .you're having another nightmare.... A majority of people who vote were not alive the last time republicans got a majority vote..... Enough with the kool-aide splatter.

bhall74

jsk, even the Democrat leadership acknowledges that they are going to get whipped in the mid-terms, they just don't know, or want to admit, how bad it will be. That's why they're desperately clinging to the Roe v. Wade decision leak and the January 6th Committee hearings, like a drowning man will grasp onto anything to keep from drowning. Their problem, as they have tacitly admitted, is the feckless Joementia Administration train wreck that is the result of the Progressives control over Joementia. Of course, as we see with Greg F and olefool, there is a belief among some that stupidity is a virtue.

TrekMan

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Hayduke2

jsk - they may vote Republican but it won't be the majority of people nor will it represent the majority of Americans. It will, however, represent those small states with outsized influence, that limit voting access and map out gerrymandered districts.

bhall74

haybale, if wishes where horses beggars would ride. But, wishes are not horses, and Democrat wishes, as you just stated, are based on lies and rarely come true.

Hayduke2

I know- like Mexico paying for the wall, the great health care and infrastructure plan, etc.

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