The headline on Page A3 of the Nov. 11 FNP (“SO REWARDING”) grabbed my attention. The article tells of the new Veterans Service Center that will be opening in a space provided by Goodwill Industries and funded by the efforts of Platoon 22. It will house the Department of Veterans Affairs. It will offer mental health counseling, home care, job training employment, plus other services. A great private community effort.

On Veteran’s Day, one wonders why this three-year effort did not receive front-page billing. The front page headlined Democrats gaining ground from mail-in voting.

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mikebinkley2022

I actually agree here - we should not be spending money on turf fields when schools don't even have lockable doors on the classrooms and course offerings are not equitable throughout the county.

mrnatural1

Agreed mike. [thumbup]

In addition, this article says that FCPS has *159* "portable classrooms" (essentially mobile homes):

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/education/schools-to-investigate-cost-of-new-portable-classrooms/article_dc6aa878-3c42-5344-a5c3-84fd0fbc363d.html

159!

They are much less safe/secure than a school building. Students and teachers are at greater risk when they are in 'portables'.

Of course they could be eliminated (or drastically reduced in number) if there was not so much residential sprawl, and if the developers paid high enough impact fees to allow for construction of real school buildings, not flimsy trailers.

threecents

My only question from this LTE - assuming that JSK got his fact right this time - is whether $10 million is a good investment for those high school fields. That sounds like a lot.

Unlike some, I am certainly not going to use this opportunity to point out that JSK's election predictions of a red tide were wrong. That would not be sporting.

phydeaux994

Yes, I thought the artificial fields went for about a million. But after you consider what it costs to maintain grass fields and the fact that you don’t need a separate field for lacrosse and soccer it’s probably cheaper in the long run.

shiftless88

After earlier discussion on artificial turf here, I did some reading and it seems that the consensus is that it is more harmful to players than grass. But there are advantages in being able to not have rain outs and using them for multiple sports. Tough call.

Dwasserba

“.. but the priorities of the local government remain puzzling.” ? Was this criticizing the city for taking a beat before committing funds?

jsklinelga

Dwasserba

I know better than to engage discussion in this section but the page mentioned struck me odd that 10 million dollars was going for artificial athletic fields, while the new home for veterans affairs had to be founded without government assistance.

Also that the county was warning that a countywide program to assist those in need would not survive without the help of the city after the county's one time contribution of 2.8 million from a federal grant program. But 10 million for artificial turf fields paid directly by county taxpayers was heralded as an achievement..I simply questioned the governments priorities. Once again I say I thank God I am not longer affiliated with the Democrat party.

And regarding the retort comments below -they are typical. Strain at a gnat and swallow a camel comes to mind. People questioned being able to get a ballot emailed. All they have to do is look at Maryland's guidelines. And to say that Biden did not know that his debt forgiveness plan would be shot down is simply dishonest. Of course he knew. His advisors have made some dumb decisions relating to governing but that was forecast before it was released. But it was enough for the classic bait and switch.

public-redux

nelga, Thank you for responding to my question. Your participation in these fora is much appreciated. I found the info you alluded to regarding emailed ballots. What a hassle that process is. No wonder almost no one does it.

How is your search for data documenting your claim about housing values coming along? Productive I hope. I'd like to know if my house had indeed lost 25 percent of it's value in recent months.

Hayduke2

jsk - regarding my "retort" below. I asked for concrete, factual support and, typically, you respond by saying " of course he knew ". Sir, that is not factual nor supported by evidence, it is nothing more than your opinion that you try to pass off as facts. Sour grapes.

TrekMan

The county has its priorities upside down - they actually contradict themselves and are hypocritical with themselves as well regarding helping Frederick families experiencing hardship. I'm not saying we don't need upgraded athletic fields at some point, but $10 million is a lot that can go towards reducing homelessness and despondent families, especially with the high inflation we're experiencing now. Hopefully the new administration of the county will shift their views and priorities.

Hayduke2

Trek - maybe you ought to take a look at where the money came from and what it can be used for ...

Dwasserba

jsk Appreciate the clarification.

mrnatural1

public-redux Nov 14, 2022 8:52pm

“… getting a ballot by email …”

"Which jurisdictions email ballots to voters? I googled that and came up empty."

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I'm not sure what this refers to (below, bold) but I recall reading that voters can get a ballot via email that they print out, complete, and send in like an ordinary ballot. My understanding is that these take more time to count because they must be transferred to an official ballot first by elections officials.

From: https://voterservices.elections.maryland.gov/VoterResults

Mail-in Ballot Statuses:

Application Processed: Your local board of elections has processed your request for a mail-in ballot.

Ballot Sent: Your ballot has been sent.

Ballot Link Sent by Email: We sent you an email with a link to your ballot. We sent it to the email address you requested. If you can't find the email, please check all of your email addresses and your "spam" or "junk" folders.

Returned Undeliverable: Your ballot could not be delivered by the United States Postal Service and was returned to the local board of elections. Please call your local board of elections.

Ballot Received: Your local board of elections received your voted ballot.

Accepted: Your ballot has been counted.

Rejected: Your ballot was rejected (not counted). It was rejected for the reason listed.

public-redux

I’m fairly certain that what you’ve copied here refers to email notifications about a mailed in ballot. Not an emailed ballot.

mrnatural1

public,

This PDF makes it more clear. A voter may have their ballot mailed to them (USPS); they may a link to their ballot emailed to them; or it may be faxed:

https://elections.maryland.gov/voting/documents/Mail-in%20Ballot%20Application_English.pdf

mrnatural1

..may *have* a link...

(With forum software there would be an "edit" feature -- just sayin')

public-redux

I can't tell what triggered the LTE author more, the use of taxpayer monies or the FNP 's judgement of what would attract the most eyeballs.

Hayduke2

Well, it may have had something to do with the massive change in government that the letter writer predicted but never came to fruition. Seems the majority of voters disagree with this world view so he finds things to complain about...

shiftless88

He is part of the non-existent majority

jsklinelga

Hayduke

Yes it was disappointing. But consider the mass mailing of ballots and the ease of getting a ballot by email had an impact but nothing compared to the far too typical Democrat election guile and trickery. 16 million young voters got approved within 5 minutes for student debt forgiveness with another 10 million submitting request. (Falsely approved.) And the White House warned them that a Republican congress could kill the deal thus producing the largest turnout of young voters which comprised 27% of the electorate.

The sad thing is that the White House admitted that the loans were not really forgiven because the plan was not in effect. It changed the election but when this program is shot down by the courts for being an unconstitutional executive overreach it won't matter because the bait had been swallowed. I thank God I no longer affiliated with the Democrat party..

jsklinelga

The official White House memo:

Last month, President Biden launched his Administration’s student debt relief application, enabling tens of millions of Americans to apply for relief in under 5 minutes as they recover from the pandemic. Already, close to 26 million people have provided the Department of Education the required information to be considered for debt relief – that’s close to 26 million Americans who could be on their way to getting a little more breathing room as they prepare to resume loan payments in January. By the end of the week, 16 million applications will have been approved.

The Biden Administration’s student debt relief plan will benefit working and middle-class families the most. Borrowers are eligible if their individual income is less than $125,000 per year, no borrower in the top 5% of incomes will benefit, and nearly 90% of relief for out-of-school borrowers will go to those who earn less than $75,000 per year. Borrowers with remaining undergraduate loan balances will also see their monthly payments cut in half under the Administration’s plan – providing long-term cost-savings to millions of families.

Republican officials across the country, however, have a different plan. Rather than easing the burden of loan debt for tens of millions of Americans, Republican officials have sued to prevent those hardest hit from the pandemic from getting relief. At the same time,

public-redux

“… getting a ballot by email …”

Which jurisdictions email ballots to voters? I googled that and came up empty.

phydeaux994

No jsk, you are the sad thing. Your usual barrage of psychobabble when you’ve been flummoxed is not pretty. The good guys won this one, hopefully toward sanity.

Hayduke2

Jsk - you wrote " The sad thing is that the White House admitted that the loans were not really forgiven because the plan was not in effect." Try as I might, I can find this admission nowhere. You may think it but that does not make it so. I did find that the White House posted that the program is currently blocked by a federal judge and that decision is being appealed. BTW, it was Republicans who blocked it for political reasons.

Hayduke2

Jsk - you wrote " 16 million young voters got approved within 5 minutes for student debt forgiveness with another 10 million submitting request. (Falsely approved.) " Again, I can find no credible source that confirms this. It appears this is much like your claims about housing of a few weeks ago. Please provide the source for your claim.

shiftless88

jsk; just to be clear, you support the government aiding religious organizations to help people, but are against the government helping people directly? I mean, it makes no sense to provide funds to a religious organization to then do something rather than doing so directly. What do you see as the benefit for going through a religious organization?

mrnatural1

Good question shiftless. [thumbup]

DickD

Did it occur to you, Shift, that Nelga wants money to go to his church to hand out so they can increase their attendance and get more money that way? Maybe not, but nelga is very religious.

shiftless88

To summarize, jsk is annoyed and baffled that anyone has a different viewpoint than him and, despite not running for office himself, feels like he wants to criticize to get his name in the paper.

DickD

An article on veterans should have been on the front page, I agree. But defeating Republicans along with the draft dodger Trump's coalition is great news to, nelga.

pdl603

Answer, democrats and the willing accomplices in the press loath the military.

Fredginrickey

Peedo, when did you take the oath?

I have, as has every generation in my family since Jamestown and Plymouth Rock, Democrats since the Party was established in 1828.

How ‘bout them midterms? Red Washout.

Blueline

What unit was your ancestor in in the Revolution? I have one in a NJ regiment who was at Monmouth & the Sullivan Expedition.

Hayduke2

The former president had some in the Revolutionary Air Force!

Fredginrickey

Bluey,

So many, most notably, General.George Washington (great uncle) Lighthorse Henry Lee, Virginians of course, and my favorite Lt. Col. Ezekiel Polk 3d South Carolina Regiment, look up his epitaph, it’s a hoot.

DickD

And you support draft dodger, Trump? lol

shiftless88

Not so make fun of the Orange one making fun of POWs and Gold-Star families. He had zero respect for the military as he showed over and over again.

pdl603

Just as stupid as ever. Trump rebuilt the military after Oblameh gutted it.

shiftless88

just as stupid as ever, believing that spending someone else's money is the best metric to view "support"

pdl603

That is all you socialists do is spend other people’s money until it runs out then the authoritarianism starts. Right, Comrade Shiftforbrains?

pdl603

And you support wheezy the draft dodger as well, eh?

gabrielshorn2013

That blade has two sharp edges, pdl.

Fredginrickey

When did you take the oath? I missed your response Peedo.

Hayduke2

pdl - what an ignorant thing to say. Sour grapes when you find your vision of the world is faulty.

Sycamore1041

I'm a Democrat, and I served four years in the army (and my father and grandfather were in the military too). I loathe Trump and his sycophants with every fiber of my being. As a veteran it didn't bother me one iota not to see a story about veterans on the front page of the FNP. It's much more important to highlight turning back the red tide that would've put so many un-American election deniers in positions of power.

pdl603

So, half the democrat leaders are election deniers. In 2016, they continually stated that Trump was an illegitimate president. So, how does that make you feel supporting the same type of sleaze you state you loath? What a blind partisan fool you are.

Piedmontgardener

LOL, you couldn't do better being paid in rubles, PDL.

Hayduke2

pdl - you do know it is 2022, right??

pdl603

Dookie, yes I do know it is 2022. But do you know it is 2022? You seem to reach back in time on a frequent basis.

pdl603

Where am I wrong Peed?

Hayduke2

Did they pursue fake electors? Did they storm the Capital and threated Congress? Did they use their state reps to further impact voting laws? Do they still spout that some nonsense? Did they threaten and file lawsuits ? Did they constantly go on TV and news media to push that idea ? Did they back candidates that would spout the same nonsense ? Well, pdl you bought the nonsense, can't take that you have been " had", and continue to be a sore loser...

threecents

Pdl, Hillary conceded the election in 2016. Below is a link showing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQOtbcmCyis

shiftless88

piddle seems to confuse "denying" and election with "pointing out that there was foreign influence on the election in terms of funding and ads". Dems are not claiming fraud like a denier. They are acknowledging that our elections are supposed to be free of foreign influence but one candidate actively courted foreign countries to become involved and then they did.

threecents

[thumbup]S88

Fredginrickey

Sycamore, 👍👍

mrnatural1

[thumbup] Sycamore.

DickD

And you were in the military, piddle?

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