I am addressing the concerns of some elected officials who don't know too much about your community or law enforcement in Frederick County.

Sheriff Chuck Jenkins tirelessly puts all of his energy in this county. Do you? Nothing else to do but get on the bandwagon like other states and counties.

Racism? Sheriff Jenkins will not tolerate any that comes his way. Walk in his shoes and those of the outstanding deputies and employees of this agency — you can't touch it. 

Community services that were put on hold due to our situation — neighborhood and business watch programs to name a few — are the result of our sheriff implementing something to better serve you. How about putting your energy into other areas than this one. Law enforcement matters.

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KellyAlzan

Am I the only one who remembers what Trumpkins repeatedly stated when he initially ran for sheriff???

Trumpkins, repeatedly stated, “I will go after the aliens”. His exact words.

And the Roxie santos case backs up his promise.

mrnatural1

Just an observation -- whenever the subject of illegal immigration comes up, anyone who expresses any concern about it is instantly deemed to be an evil racist/xenophobe. While some certainly are, many are not.

There are a lot of people who are primarily concerned about the effects of overpopulation (depleted aquifers; paving prime farmland; traffic congestion; overcrowded schools, etc, etc), as well as increasing unemployment and decreasing wages.

Those who promote "open borders" or drastically increased levels of immigration mean well, but America is already at DOUBLE its sustainable population. That's according to the Climate Change study signed by 11,000 scientists from around the world. It's very difficult to argue they are correct about CC but wrong about the sustainable population of the U.S. We should be working to slow, stop, and then reverse our population growth.

Fortunately, it is actually less expensive and more efficient to help people in their home country. Use foreign aid; the Peace Corps; AmeriCorps; non-profit groups, etc. For the cost of helping one person here, 10-12 can be helped where they live.

phydeaux994

But...but...but...who’s gonna do the work?? America has NEVER had a closed Southern Border. Never will. Since Adam and Eve started it (I still haven’t figured that one out) the rule of 70 preordained overpopulation. What is your plan for reversing population growth? COVID-19 may be it.

mrnatural1

I don't claim to have all of the answers -- just some facts.

In addition to reducing immigration, one way to reverse population growth is to stop encouraging people to have children. We obviously must make sure all infants and children have the best care and education, so sometimes gov't assistance is necessary -- but it makes no sense to give parents who are well-off financially, tax deductions and credits for having children. Any assistance should be means tested.

I didn't say anything about closing the Southern Border. Even advocacy groups like NumbersUSA do not advocate that. All they ask is that we get back to a more traditional level of legal immigration. The concern is the sheer number of people (thus the name NumbersUSA). BTW, I saw they were mentioned (in a negative way) in the PDF that was linked to here. NumbersUSA is not a club for racists and xenophobes. In fact, they have a page on their website devoted to clearly stating that they are simply concerned about overpopulation; that immigrants should not be demonized; that they are adamantly opposed to racism and hate groups, etc. They often get unfairly lumped in with other groups.

Regarding the work getting done -- one of the oldest canards is "Americans won't do 'those' jobs". Unemployment is extremely high right now. We do not have a shortage of workers. Americans will do ANY job if the pay and benefits are reasonable. That's a fact.

Even many first generation legal immigrants do not want people entering the country illegally because they view them as competition. Those who are here illegally are often exploited and abused because their employer knows they are at their mercy. They will work for less because they are taken advantage of.

Every once in a while, someone will 'say the soft part out loud' and admit that their real concern is cheap labor and cheap products. Their only concern is their wallet. All workers should be US citizens or here legally. They should all be paid a living wage (at a minimum). That might mean a burger costs $0.25 more. Oh well.

Again, I'm just passing on facts. The same 11,000 scientists who confirm that Climate Change is a serious existential threat also state that the sustainable population of America is about 150-175,000,000 people -- half our current population.

We are also well beyond the Earth's carrying capacity, but needless to say, all we can hope to do is set a good example by slowly decreasing the population of our own country.

phydeaux994

Lot of shoulda-woulda-coulda in your thinking mrnatural. Unfortunately, as is well illustrated as we speak, lots and lots of people, American citizens in our case, don’t act in their own or others self-interests. Turns out, we are very selfish people, just doing what “feels good”. Not me, not you of course, but others. Until we get back to, or reach, a one for all, all for one mindset, our future doesn’t look especially bright. Especially mine, I’m 80. But it’s been a good 80 so I’m happy. I worry for our descendants though, I want theirs to be as happy as mine. Peace.✌️😷

Hayduke2

mrnatural says "Americans will do ANY job if the pay and benefits are reasonable. That's a fact." Therein lies the problem and issue. When one starts talking about sharing the wealth, growing the middle class, etc. the mantra immediately becomes "you are a socialist commie" or similar. As for your other points, given the chaos caused by the pandemic, imagine what happens should we experience a virus or silmilar that attacks our mono-culture farming methods or some other part of the food chain, like the meat production or similar. Frightening to think about.

gary4books

Just the facts? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projections_of_population_growth#Most_populous_nations_by_2050_and_2100

MD1756

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KellyAlzan

Americans WONT do any job if they’re not raised, if it’s not instilled in them to work.

Kids sitting on Tic Tok all day Kong’s is not instilling a work ethic into them......

TomWheatley

I know what Adam and Eve did, but think for a moment about where Cain's wives came from.

phydeaux994

Yes, that’s what I can’t figure out. Getting all those animals on that boat mystifies me too.

MD1756

Phydeaux, it's not only getting all those land animals/insects, microbes, etc. onto one boat, but redistributing them across the word so that some species appear only in very localized areas. That boat must have had warp speed or Santa Claus' (who knew he existed in BC or BCE?) help to redistribute all land life.

NewMarketParent

@mrrnatural1

Its really a ton more nuanced than that. One of the problems we have is that borders have a fiscal cost. And because of that, there is incentive for low-skilled labor to stay here once they have incurred that cost. One of the arguments for open borders is that if you eliminated that cost, you would eliminate the incentive to stay here illegally (because navigating citizenship is crazy). Of course the counter to that is that it would open up a path for businesses to exploit low-skill workers (businesses exploit all workers). One of the main problems is that businesses really don't get the crackdown that they deserve for hiring non-citizens for low-wage, back-breaking, repetitive work. Many won't take those jobs because they don't really offer a path to sustainably raise a family and a path to upward mobility. It is way more complicated than can ever be written up in a few sentences.

MD1756

What is the barrier/cost (apart from transportation) for those in the migrant and seasonal labor programs who come yearly and return when the harvesting season is over? I certainly agree that more crackdown needs to be directed towards businesses and government entities that are part of the problem.

shiftless88

Mr Natural; I do appreciate you comments. However I will point out that the same group of people hammering immigration are also the same people promoting having more children and seeking to reduce foreign aid. And almost nobody is promoting "open borders". If you truly believe that is a mainstream political aim then you are misguided.

MD1756

Shiftless, I certainly do not promote "having more children." I also link immigration to birth rates of those in this country (if those here had fewer children then we could allow more people to immigrate into the country. I do promote changing foreign aid. If foreign aid is effective, then those receiving it should eventually require less. Those who are not using it effectively should not be receiving it. Foreign aid should come more in the line of public infrastructure projects and less money that can be more easily siphoned off. We should be providing green infrastructure so that as other countries wealth grows, their environmental footprints don't grow to match our less than stellar record.

gary4books

Sustainability depends on energy and technology. But for facts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimum_population

DickD

If the U.S. is double it's sustainable average, what are China and India? .How would you average people? Who would be allowed to have children and how many? How could international laws be enforced? Currently, wars have kept the population down, but at a very expensive cost to the population, goods and available basic needs.

NewMarketParent

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/22/frederick-county-chuck-jenkins-donald-trump-immigration-ice

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU01/20160419/104803/HHRG-114-JU01-20160419-SD001.pdf

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2020/03/18/year-hate-and-extremism-2019

https://medium.com/@dpetrohilos/between-white-nationalism-and-sheriff-chuck-jenkins-95fa0cf631e

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/politics_and_government/elections/sheriffs-trip-funded-by-alleged-anti-immigrant-hate-group/article_a6723cb9-29fe-5481-aff5-28f627c50b0b.html

https://www.irehr.org/2019/12/10/maryland-sheriff-speaks-at-social-contract-press-event/

NewMarketParent

Its telling that those who need proof in order prove racism never seem to need it when protesters distance themselves from looters. They always get tied together with the same piece of string.

Now let someone hang around with and pal around in public with known racists, and all of sudden people are miraculously able to use the most precise scalpel in the world to split that relationship up.

Here's a receipt if they are needed:

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110017/documents/HHRG-116-JU01-20190926-SD016.pdf

There's an old saying that if 3 natzis (misspelled on purpose because filters) sit down at a table with a 4th and that person doesn't get up, then you got 4 natzis.

awteam2000

Chasing brown domestic workers, who was only eating lunch, no ‘probable cause’, running in fear of Jenkins’ deputies, to hide behind a dumpsters, sound pretty racist to me.

“Show me your papers” (with an agrarian accent) the deputy said, “It’s a run-away”.

gabrielshorn2013

See below aw. She was already the subject of an active deportation order. She wasn't a domestic worker. She was illegally employed as a dishwasher at Common Marker. Did Common Market knowingly employ an illegal alien, or did she provide forged documents in order to illegally gain employment in the US?

awteam2000

And the police new that before they chased her down? They didn’t grab her because she was brown? Who did the courts determine was guilty? Santos? Common Market? Or the police?

I’ve known Chuck for a long time. Take my word for it. He’s a racist.

gabrielshorn2013

No, they didn't aw. However, her trying to hide when the deputies were driving by (a.k.a. suspicious behavior) caused them to stop and investigate. They asked her name, asked for ID, and discovered the outstanding warrant for her arrest. BTW, didn't see the name Jenkins on the arresting documents. Go look. No they did not "chase her down", they stepped out of their patrol car and walked up to her, so tour statement is hyperbole. If the warrant was for murder, then she absconded, and then discovered under the same circumstances, would the deputies be wrong for arresting her on that outstanding arrest warrant? Was Santos legally able to work in the US? No. Was Common Market allowed to hire an illegal alien? No. If Common Market ignored the law by hiring her anyway, that is a felony. Likewise if she presented forged documents stating her ability to work in the US. Which of these facts do you dispute, and why?

phydeaux994

gab, I think the Courts have established that what those Deputies did under instruction from Chuck Jenkins was illegal. I think that the fact that ICE kicked him out of the 287(g) Law Enforcement Task Force Program for Profiling is additional proof that Chuck Jenkins was breaking the law. Did you read the link I posted that ties Chuck Jenkins to White Supremacist Groups proves that he is Racist along with his behavior towards minority groups in Frederick County. Have you ever heard Sheriff Jenkins DENY that he is Racist?

phydeaux994

https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/110017/documents/HHRG-116-JU01-20190926-SD016.pdf

phydeaux994

The Sheriffs ties to alt-Right Groups noted on this link.

Hayduke2

I don't have a dog in this argument but the article has some pretty damning points if true. I would have to look at the source of this article in more detail but it does point out some pretty troubling connections.

NewMarketParent

@Hayduke2

One other important point to take note of. Trumpkins is all about going after illegal immigration.

He is eerily silent on domestic terrorism. Funny how that works, huh?

NewMarketParent

I totally missed this link and that was the very first thing google brought up. Thank you.

yogib

I beleve this writer may be too close to the Sheriff to be objective. Stand at a distance and see, the racism, the bullly atitude, and lack of community the rest of us see. Have a chat with those who have to work with or for this guy, then you will understand why Jenkins is unable to recruit and keep his officers. You will also understand why the world is moving well beyond Frederick's antiquated atitude of law enforcement.

gabrielshorn2013

Could you give us a specific incident as an example of the racism you claim the Sheriff exhibits, yogib? What is the turnover rate in the FCSO as compared with similar agencies?

awteam2000

Does the wrongful arrest of Roxanna Santos count? Brown women running. What was the threat? The courts thought it was discriminatory or just ineptness. Where was the ‘probable cause’, why was she jailed, withheld from her minor children for days? Why?

gabrielshorn2013

You have a superficial understanding of the case aw. Santos had a pre-existing deportation order (warrant) at the time of her encounter with two Sheriff's deputies behind her (illegal) employer, Common Market, where she exhibited suspicious behavior by trying to hide when she saw the deputies. She knew she already had her day in court,, and was ordered deported previously. When the deputies asked for identification, as they had a right to do, they discovered the active warrant that they acted on. Now, if she had any other kind of outstanding arrest warrant, she would have rightfully been turned over to that jurisdiction, regardless of whether she was "just eating lunch", or "just walking down the street", or "just minding her own business", etc. BTW, despite her lawyer winning the case, she is still subject to the same deportation order, and may be apprehended and deported at any time. All of this is in the court records aw, maybe you should read them.

NewMarketParent

@gabrielshorn2013

We caught the criminal because we arrested everyone, therefore arresting everyone is completely justified. See how stupid that sounds?

KellyAlzan

Wrong GH.

Santos was questioned solely because of her skin color.

When was the last time a deputy passed by and asked you for ID?

And the running from the deputy that another commenter here mentioned - if you go back and read every single report ever written on the incident.....you will see that in the beginning there were NO claims of her running from the deputy. The claim of her running from the deputy magically started appearing about a month or so later.

phydeaux994

Town Hall meetings where he calls Hispanics murderers and rapists and orders his Deputies to question them about their Immigration status. For starters.

gabrielshorn2013

Transcripts of such meetings are in the public record phy. Which one was it?

phydeaux994

The one at the Jefferson Fire House. Look it up.

NewMarketParent

@gabrielshorn2013

Why do you fight so hard to defend racists?

public-redux

Asking for factual information is not defending racists or racism.

gabrielshorn2013

[thumbup] public!

NewMarketParent

@public-redux

It is when it is only one-sided. I have sat here and watched this person time and again come in and cape for people who make ridiculous and specious claims with absolutely zero proof. To have that person turn around and time and again ask for specific proof that will never be enough as she will consistently and systematically moves the goal posts is infuriating.

Here is the thing about being a POC. You learn very early on to spot not only the easiest parts of racism, you also learn the behaviors and dog whistles of those who either are racists or support racism.

So either you are the problem or you support the problem. To be so dismissive of other people's shared experience is really disappointing.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

I have seen that often times "people" are so deeply racist that they can't see how deeply racist they are. Nor can they see how racist they act. Nor can they see the racism when it is right in front of their eyes, racists do tend to defend one another it seems.. So that could explain a few people here? So yeah I don't know. I know you weren't asking me but I knew you wouldn't mind if I answered back...

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

Gabrielshorn2013 has every right to ask for proof, because extra-ordinary claims require extra-ordinary proof. The problem is that this isn't an extra-ordinary claim. This sheriff has been hitting all of the dog-whistles of claiming that this county was some sort of immigrant hotbed and that any day now we were going to be overrun.

He has gone on Faux News to tie himself to the birther in chief. Sorry. You don't get to act like none of that happened. You don't get to hop off the T-train and act like you were never on it. I watched her come and specifically never, ever ask for evidence from her buddies who were pushing crazy conspiracy theories. But, boy... you let someone claim racism and you need a signed affidavit from 10 neighbors with excellent credit and outstanding reputations.

POC recognize the dog whistling because it is in our best interest in terms of self-preservation to recognize them. When we tell you, you should believe us.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

What’s even odder is that Gabe “claims” he is “somewhat” a POC ?

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

There are plenty of people who sock-puppet as POC when it is convenient (see @Reek). They tend to be insecure in their own skin so they sock-puppet to attempt to grant credibility to their ridiculous arguments and stories because they know they are ridiculous and it is hard dismiss in a medium like this where you can remain semi-anonymous.

What POC know (again because of self-preservation) is both dog whistles and which policies tend to be levied against us inequitably (see War On Drugs). People who don't grow up in families who haven't watched their close relatives struggle with unequal treatment because of color tend to be insulated from the effects of racism.

There are times where we can't even predict some or all of them and even we don't see how unfair application of law can be harmful

As I have said, I am fair in color, but I also have a multitude of shades in my extended family. I also have a father who is slightly browner than me and although being absolutely brilliant didn't find the success early in life that he should have because of the color of his skin. This man had to train people who ended up supervising him. That is wealth that was robbed from my family due to racism. I am not saying that so that people can feel sorry for me. My parents, and family compared to others are very well off and I had a very nice, comfortable middle-class upbringing. Myself and my sibling were able to graduate from college (state schools) debt-free. We were the also the templates to my other cousins as we were the first 2 to finish college on both sides of my family. My sister has a B.A. and I have a B.S (the artist and the scientist).

Because of my first hand experience and instinctual self-preservation, I have a pretty keen sense when I am hearing or seeing someone who is a bigot. Just like there are tremors when an earthquake is coming, there are words that you inherently develop that gut feel for when you hear them. Those are the dog-whistles. Sometimes you can't even consciously tell, but you feel it just like those tremors. They are a Spidey-sense for racism.

That said, JFC, Jenkins tingles that absolute hell out of racist spidersense.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

As I am not a POC, I don't have the same Spidey-sense as you do when it comes to racism, I can't even come close because I am not likely to experience racism, so I depend on POC to alert me to others racism and to my own. Not being a POC tends to make one live in their own bubble of seeing the world through their own set of eyes. Sometimes I can't see racism when it is right in front of my eyes. Because like you say people are really good at hiding their racism from non-POC.

That's why I am a fan of Dave Chappelle because he is not afraid to call white peoples' racism out, does that make sense? He is real about how blind we are to racism and I can take real. He tells the hard truth. Sometimes i need him to go full scorched earth on white people.

But when it comes to Jenkins he wears his racism on his sleeve for all to see, those who are blind to his racism astound me, Jenkins has never hid his racism, but as a POC you are going to see his racism deeper and clearer than I would. So when a "POC" comes here and asks for evidence of Jenkins racism, well I wish I could use some words from Dave Chappelle......go scorched earth on them.

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

I had no idea that you weren't a POC. It really doesn't matter to me at all though as I have seen you often show yourself as an ally.

Like I have told people often lately. I am not surprised by the villains of the last few years, because they are pretty predictable. What I am really impressed by is the heroes and allies that have risen.

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

Also, comedians are truth-tellers. They often see the absurdities of how we behave and try to show us ourselves in the mirror.

The other thing is that we all have our internal bigotry and biases and it is not shameful to admit it. In fact, you can ever fix anything that you are not willing to admit the existence of.

But yet a lot of seemingly very bright people have this incredible blind spot when it comes to racism. It is the because of this incredible blind spot that people began to talk about privilege, because it is an easier way to talk about the difference in experience that POC and nonPOC have in this country.

Sad part in all of this is that I am a scientist and I think my peers would tell you that I am very good in my chosen field. It is because I have this shared experience and am reasonably articulate that I have chosen to write these things here.

There are tons of people who experienced worse who came before me who neither had a medium like this nor the ability to communicate their experience in a way that could viscerally explain their experience. The ability for my parents to send me to a good school and me learning how to write in a somewhat coherent way is and me explaining my experience is one way I am using my privilege.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

No what color we are doesn't matter and shouldn't matter but I just felt like I needed to clarify that I was not a POC, so my words would have the impact I intended.

Your words are what struck me first about you. I could see in the words you use, who you are and who you aren't. I was never looking for the color in your words either but knowing the color of the person saying those words is important at times.

What color we are shouldn't matter but it does matter. It matters because sometimes the words that you use should be seen by the color of the person saying them.

I cannot say the same words the same way Dave Chapelle says them and expect those words to have the same impact.

Sometimes to get through to people's blind spots you have show them your color with your words so maybe they will listen to your words because you live in their same bubble, Maybe with my words I can burst their bubble and they can find a way to see and talk about the real differences in experience that POC and nonPOC have in this country?

Your words are beautifully coherent to me and others. Your words have impact much like Dave Chappelle's words have impact because of the color of the person saying them.

I enjoy reading and responding to your words because through your words I try and see how you see the world.

NewMarketParent

@PurplePickles

Thank for your words and allowing yourself to be vulnerable. It is real strength to allow yourself to be vulnerable and also risky so I am always appreciative of people when they do that. I know it isn't easy.

We all share a common humanity and should try to see that in each other and reach out to each other to connect on that fundamental level.

In other words, thank you for being you.

public-redux

NMP, Are you sure you aren’t thinking of another commenter when you talk about someone who moves goalposts incessantly and says he is a POC? You are describing bosco to a T. His goalposts are on wheels and motorized. In my observation, gab is not a goalpost mover. YMMV.

Regardless, gab’s comment here didn’t seem, to me, racist in any way nor a defense of the High Sheriff. Again, YMMV.

PurplePickles aka L&M

@NMP

And thank you for being you, and playing with me in the sandbox of the FNP comment section. Because like you say:

We all share a common humanity and should try to see that in each other and reach out to each other to connect on that fundamental level.

People can and do connect in sandboxes....

NewMarketParent

@public-redux

Her comment here wasn't by itself racist in anyway. One thing that I have an uncanny ability to do it see patterns (again, self-preservation at work). I have watched and noted that incredibly often she will only comment specifically in defense of some micro-sliver of an argument for Reek or CDeez. If it was balanced in any way, than it would be balanced, but it is almost exclusive.

Whenever there is some sort of article on race, I often see gabrielshorn2013 will comment, but it is only ever in asking for proof or racism. It is definitely a pattern. When I have called her on it, she uses 1 of her 2 defenses:

1. I got a drop of black blood in my family (but no one would ever know because I have passed for white my entire life)

2. I have friends of color

therefore I don't have the capacity to cape for racists defense. Just so you know, you can't defend the indefensible so those 2 defenses while they may quiet some critics, prove absolutely zero especially if you are capin' for white supremacy.

The only place I have seen her ride on the right side of history has been with regard to this virus and anything related to biology (as I believe that is her jam).

I have observed no pattern of her ever being on the right side of history when it comes to anything in this artificial construct of race. She has always been on the side of the oppressor.

MD1756

NMP, one piece of advice, take it or not. You might be taken more seriously if you don't drop to the level of name calling, etc. that a number of others on this site do. I believe you have valuable opinions and points, but you start to lose me when you drop to your antagonist's' levels.Stick with the facts and explain your beliefs and you may have a greater impact in getting others to see things from your perspective (or at least acknowledge your perspective even if they don't agree). A person's perception is their reality whether or not it is accurate. If it is inaccurate, you can try to help them understand (and there will always be those lost causes who should probably just be ignored). Just my 2 cents which may not be worth a plug nickle.

gary4books

Sheriff Jenkins is not new to me. I lived in Texas where they have many others like him. Just surprised here.

threecents

Yah, I don't know if he is duck, but I've heard him quacking and seen him gathering with other ducks.

NewMarketParent

@threecents

That's what gaslighting feels like. You are sure you see a duck, but everyone else is telling you it is a tree.

NewMarketParent

@threecents

And then you have people like gabrielshorn2013 who will tell you that the beak must measure 3.4", be symmetrical and colored high-orange sienna. The tail feather must be grey #5 only if measured between the 23 and 24th of December. If it doesn't fall exactly into those parameters, it must be a tree.

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