I am writing in support of the rally on Oct. 6 by Frederick County Sheriff Chuck Jenkins, especially since some letter writers to your paper have misrepresented it as a “hate rally” which is totally inaccurate.

I 100 percent support the correctly named Citizens for 287(g) Rally, and all citizens who care about the safety of the citizens of Frederick County should come out and support this cause. We have laws in this country, state and county, and those who have entered the United States illegally have broken our immigration laws.

If they are arrested, and in custody of the sheriff’s office, they should be turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and processed for deportation. We cannot become a sanctuary county like Montgomery County, and allow the sheriff’s office to release them back into our community to commit rapes, robberies, murder, and other crimes. They didn’t respect our LAWS when they came into our country illegally, so why should we release them back into our county? We have LAWS for a reason, and we pay TAXES, for our law enforcement officials to enforce our LAWS, so stand up for our law enforcement community and support them on Oct. 6 at the Citizens for 287(g) Rally. Keep Frederick County safe for our legal citizens!

Glynn Anglin

Frederick

(83) comments

KellyAlzan

A lot of comments about how racist the high Sherf is. If he is so racist as everyone is claiming, then I don’t see it. He was kind and thoughtful enough to get an illegal immigrant a lottery payout in excess of $1 mil

olefool

before I commit to going I need to know if this rally is going to be segregated, as you know it's bad taste for coloreds and whites, catholics and baptists to mingle with one another.

DickD

Only if you go to the Republican hate rally, olefool. I am sure the other one will not be that way.

jagman

Wow. I went away for a week to earn some obscene profits for my business and look what has happened!

So, for some clarity here. Whatever one thinks of the sheriff personally, we must remember that he is the only one willing to push back on the growing illegal alien population here in Fredco.

In some respect, we are lucky to have Montco close by so we can see what happens when that element is invited in.

I must conclude from reading the comments that the libs in the city really do want us to become what we see south of us. But then, that has been the case for the last 25 years. You break it, you own it.

DickD

Wrong, jag, we need the Republicans to give us more judges at the border, so immigrants are not released here or in MOCO. We don't need 287 (g), we do not need to spend Frederick County taxes for a ICE program, We do not need a hate rally.

jagman

Good luck getting congress to fix the immigration law mess. Neither side wants to fix it.

Thus, the need for the 287g program.

And there is no evidence yet put forth that proves the rally will be a hate rally.

awteam2000

Nonsense. Do you know what the 287(g) model that Jenkins signed up for and what it does? When you go to the racist rally tomorrow, ask Chuck what’s the ratio of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants in the county compared to the overall county crime rate. And what are the top 5 law enforcement engagements that his department is called on to deal with in the county.

jagman

Illegal aliens (not "undocumented") can be removed from the country so we don't have to endure their crimes. American citizens cannot be removed from the country. So their crimes, while unacceptable, are ours to deal with. If you are serious about lowering the crime rate committed by citizens you need to support tougher enforcement of our laws. Kind of like the use of the 287g program.

awteam2000

Jagman, again - Do you know what the 287(g) model that Jenkins signed up for and what it does? if no say “no”. If yes, state the law enforcement component of the agreement. If you don’t answer one can only assume you don’t know.

jagman

Well then aw, maybe you need to read the county's own documentation on the program here:



https://www.frederickcountymd.gov/DocumentCenter/View/319727/287g-Steering-Committee-Powerpoint-2019



Then, after a thorough read, explain to me what exactly you object to in the program.

Until then I'll assume you are just a typical leftist who doesn't want any enforcement of illegal alien activity in our county.


threecents

Jag, You went on a business trip to a place without internet?

jagman

No. Just too busy to mess with things unimportant to business.

Time is money.

gabrielshorn2013

Three, if you're in the EU, you cannot get onto the FNP website due to EU privacy law issues that some American companies will not comply with. FNP does not grant access to people in the EU.

phydeaux994

You are saying that the 287(g) Program has failed miserably if illegal aliens are still pouring in to the County and MS13 has established a presence here as Sheriff Jenkins contends. So how has the 287(g) Program been a success in Frederick County as Sheriff Jenkins has testified at the White House and before Congress?? And what you see South of us is one of the Richest, most Educated, Counties in the Nation with a School system to match. And those good things have already started to move into FC, i.e. Urbana. What is bad about that jag....??

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shiftless88

Lemmy; ??? No, it is fairly widespread. Sheriffs, for example. A lot of ignorant people on the street and making comments here who seem to think this. Even our President. I do not know whether they are all Dems or Repubs or neither. I just know that it is true that brown-skinned people are generally treated as if they are illegal immigrants and fair-skinned people are not.

awteam2000

As an alternative to the ugly celebration-rally with the racist group FAIR, sponsored by the Sheriff Chuck Jenkins, and unfortunately the Republican Club of Frederick County, there will be a welcoming unity-rally held at the same time in Carroll Creek at 2 p.m., Oct. demonstrating the values of diversity and inclusivity in Frederick County for a better, safer community for “ALL”.

public-redux

The Republican Club of Frederick County is the No True Scotsman faction of the local GOP.

DickD

No true Scotsman - appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy. Is that what you are telling us, Gladys?

KR999

The rally in support of the sheriff and 287(g) program is NOT sponsored by the sheriff and to say that it is is and out and out liberal LIE. You people just won't give up with your hate and fear mongering, will you?

threecents

I don't know if FAIR is a racist organization, but it you draw a Venn Diagram of racists and those who are passionately want a wall, my guess is there will be significant overlap. I think nearly everyone who is racist will fall in the pro-wall circle. Then let's add a circle representing FAIR members and another circle representing their leadership. Does our Venn Diagram look like a bullseye or not? What do you think?

DickD

You nailed it, three.

threecents

Is the sheriff going to handle security at the rally?

KR999

Why would he? The event will be in the city so the FPD will provide security. Duh.

DickD

Yeah, Frederick City will pay for the hate rally caused by our Sheriff!

threecents

KR, Thanks for your delightful response.

KellyAlzan

The Great Frederick Fair is that nbthe city. No FPD on-site.

KellyAlzan

FAIR is the new KKK

gabrielshorn2013

Is that a fact Kelly? If so, you would be surprised that one of their Board of Directors is a black man, Dr. Frank Morris. Here is some of his bio:



Frank Morris "is the former Executive Director of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation and former Dean of Graduate Studies at Morgan State University." [1]



"Dr. Frank Morris retired from the University of Texas at Dallas as a visiting professor in the School of Social Sciences. In 1995 Dr. Morris retired as the Dean of Graduate Studies and Research at Morgan State University in Baltimore Md. Through Congressional testimony he helped Morgan and eight other historically black graduate schools gain access to graduate support from Title III of the federal Higher Education Act. His previous academic positions were as the Associate Dean of the Graduate School of Public Affairs at the University of Maryland at College Park; visiting professor in the O’Connor Chair at his alma mater Colgate University; and Associate Professor of Political Science and Urban Affairs at Northwestern University.



"His non academic experience includes Executive Director of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation; Senior Foreign Service Officer for the Agency for International Development in the US State Department; Chief of Planning and Policy Analysis for the federal war on poverty agency; and Special Assistant to the Director of the National Institute for Education while serving as a national Educational Policy Fellow.



Here is a link to the rest: https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Frank_Morris,_Sr.



Pretty amazing, huh? Who knew!? Well, pretty much anybody that bothered to look.

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gabrielshorn2013

Nope, not 67. Do you have a problem with people older than you? My mind is still sharp, thanks. You said FAIR is the new KKK, and I posted that if true, they have a black man on their Bod. Do you refute that?

KellyAlzan

Gabe - you really should pause for a moment and think before replying to me. For the last 45 days, you appear to struggle understand my posts. This is characteristic of people over the age of 65.

gabrielshorn2013

Wrong again kelly!

awteam2000

Why in the world would the Republican Club of Frederick County ‘shoot themselves in the foot’ by overtly associating themselves with FAIR, a racist hate group? Law enforcement is one thing but tying yourself to a hate group! That’s not a good look and only reinforces the stereotype that Reps are racist homophobes.🤷‍♂️

DickD

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gabrielshorn2013

Who says they are a racist hate group aw? The now discredited SPLC? Please take a look at the people in the following links:



https://www.fairus.org/about-fair/fair-staff



https://www.fairus.org/about-fair/board-directors



If you bother to look, you will see that this is a very diverse group of people from top to bottom. Black, white, men, women, young, and older. Why would such a diverse group of people work for an organization that you allege hates them? Have you gone to their website to see who they are for yourself, or are you listening to what you are told?

nbouqu1

You keep saying the SPLC is discredited, but it's not. It's the gold standard for identifying hate groups. Repeating a lie does not make it true, no matter how much you wish it to be true.



FAIR is a racist hate group. Full stop. This LTE is full of racist lies. The writer might not think of himself as a racist, but he is. Just because you don't like wearing white sheets while burning crosses in your black neighbors yard doesn't mean you aren't racist. It just means you might be a bit more subtle about it.



And as much as I might want to say shame on the FNP for giving these racists a platform, instead I'm going to thank them for helping the racists out themselves so we know who to at best shun.

gabrielshorn2013

I hate t disappoint you nbouqu1, But the SPLC that was once the premier civil rights organization is now nothing more than a moneymaking machine with a political agenda. If you bothered to read the articles in the Atlantic and WaPo (two left-leaning organizations affording to haydukes source) you would see what happened to them. But you didn't, did you. I used to donate to them too, but no more. THat money now goes to the ACLU. As for your opinion that FAIR is a racist hate group, where did that information come from? Of course, the SPLC. Now, if you'd kindly go to the links that I posted to look at their staff, you will see quite the diverse group, from top to bottom. One of the board members is the former Executive Director of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation. Why would all those people of color choose to work for a racist organization?

shiftless88

Gabe; but FAIR was identified as such by SPLC even back when there was no question they were on top of it.

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KR999

Why is that Kelly? Oh, and when are you going to tell us how much of a settlement she got? Inquiring minds want to know.

Jleftwich

Not a good look for the county’s top cop to be involved with what amounts to a political rally.



I’ve wondered, ever since I was eligible to vote, why we elect a sheriff? Seems to me that position ought to be divorced from politics as much as possible. Might it be time to look at a new system for our county police force?

DickD

Good idea, we could appoint the most qualified and quit electing the good ole boy.

KR999

Yeah, and that would be nothing short of another step in making Frederick County just like Montgomery County. Is that what you really want?

DickD

Are you saying that the appointed police in Frederick City are helping to make us look like MOCO, KR?

jerseygrl42

Sheriff Jenkins is the best and its unfortunate that some of our elected officials care more about law breakers than they do about those who pay their freight...shame on them

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gabrielshorn2013

When was the payout, and how much?

Dwasserba

Safety is an illusion.

hayduke2

Media bias rates this group in the following manner - Overall, we rate FAIR Questionable based on Extreme Right Wing Bias as it relates to immigration, promotion of propaganda and conspiracies, as well as having connections to documented Hate Groups. More can be found at https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-federation-for-american-immigration-reform-fair/







It is another option to simply believing what either side says in their arguments.

gabrielshorn2013

Did you go to the FAIR website too hay?

hayduke2

I did but the website is also designed to paint the organization in the best light, no?

gabrielshorn2013

Did you look at the staff, BoD and Panel of Advisors?

DickD

Fear mongering is hate. This is a fear mongering meeting! Immigrants have the right to seek asylum and in the past the U.S.always welcomed them. This is nothing new. The only thing new is locking up immigrants and not processing them fast, along with separating parents from their children.

Dwasserba

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jagman

How many of those illegal immigrants are you "hosting" by letting them live in your house, dick? Don't just talk the talk, buddy. Walk the walk and prove your not a hypocrite.

public-redux

I support the High Sheriff and the audit. I hope he expresses his support for the good-government audit.

Samanthapowers

It’s a hate crime!

Samanthapowers

Looking forward to meeting the type of people that support trumpkins. Should be a lot of fear mongering, xenophobia, and intolerance. Good times.

Lemmy

Enforcement laws = intolerance.



You have the IQ of a folding chair.

Samanthapowers

Look forward to seeing you there, flem.

KR999

Are you going to have your sign on that says "I'm a total as$hole" so we'll know who you are, Sammy?

shiftless88

Lemmy; about 40% of illegal immigrants are not from central and south america. What percentage of immigrants questioned and held by Jenkins are not from central or south america? This is one of the problems; they are automatically suspect.

shiftless88

Lemmy; do you know any hispanic immigrants? They are generally assumed to be here illegally; ask them how often this happens. Heck, there was as story in the FNP a few years ago about some people here legally from Spain who were about to leave because the hassle they received from speaking Spanish. Comments on these pages show this bias as well. Face it; when you see an anglo-saxon face you do not assume they are here illegally like you do when you see a brown face. So the issue is as much the bias as it is the action.

KR999

Oh, so you're going to the 287(g) rally, Sammy? I thought you'd be over at the other one eating cookies and getting your face painted.

FrederickFan

All of this is about the Sheriff opposing an audit. Why is he so worried about an audit?

DickD

Because the Sheriff's duties include an internal audit AND a EXTERNAL audit. if they don't match up he will be in trouble.

KR999

What has he ever said to imply that he is "worried" about it? Everything I've heard him say about it is that it's another liberal Democrat witch hunt and he has nothing to hide. What have you heard him say differently?

awteam2000

Sheriff Jenkins was on WFMD promoting his celebration yesterday afternoon. He had no stats, couldn't explain, couldn't quantify, couldn't identify how much crime is committed by undocumented immigrants compared to the general population.

How does he claim it’s a crisis without statistics? Aren’t statistics key components of his job?

The basic foundation of racism is a fact less prejudice, accusing someone or a class of people of doing something less or more. less prone to or more prone to. Jenkins accused all without any credibility, no stats, no quantification, no legitimate justification other then they don’t belong here.

I’m not opposed to Jenkins because he’s racist, but he isn’t competent. He’s not producing information that protects the public, other than they don’t look like use. I can do that on my own. Not useful, even dangerous.

Lemmy

Jenkins is the only thing keeping Frederick County from being Montgomery County. Ask Montgomery how they are faring with the multiple sexual assaults on minors by illegals who should have been deported.

KellyAlzan

Not even close. Apples to grapes

Lemmy

It's spot on. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

KellyAlzan

You are incorrect.

richardlyons

[lol] How's the audit going?

Lemmy

Hopefully its going well. We don't want to be like Montgomery County.



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threecents

The wealthiest county in the country?

shiftless88

Lemmy, please read my comment on the editorial column today

awteam2000

Should we bring our own ‘tiki torches’ or will FAIR be supplying them? Wasn’t FAIR the racist hate group that paid for Chuck Jenkins trip down to the border back in 2014?

matthewboh

Yes, FAIR is a hate group - https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/10/29/anti-immigrant-hate-group-fair-take-sheriffs-border-tour-mcallen-texas-weekend

gabrielshorn2013

Sorry matthewboh, that link is to a website by the now discredited Southern Poverty Law Center. I posted the links to stories from The Atlantic and the WaPo yesterday. I also provided links to FAIR's staff, Board of Directors, and Advisors. They are a very diverse group of men and women, young and old, white, black, and more. Why would any of these people work for a hate group? You can confirm this for yourself at the following:



https://www.fairus.org/about-fair/fair-staff



https://www.fairus.org/about-fair/board-directors

rnrbug

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francesca_easa

I support the Sheriff. It is tiring that this one issue gets the only attention. This county is better off than most. Thanks Sheriff and police officers.

marinick1

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KR999

Excellent letter, and I couldn't agree more. I'll be right there at the rally and am looking forward to shaking the sheriff's hand and thanking him for the great job he and his people do.

marinick1

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rnrbug

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