Much is made today of the political divisions in the United States these days.

Some people on both sides of the political spectrum preach tolerance. Well, the “tolerance” of the left was perfectly summarized by John Kaluza’s letter to the editor, Dec. 9: “I have a brother who is a Trump lover and I have no communication at all with him because I can’t stand listening to what comes out of his mouth.”

John Ziegler

Frederick

(37) comments

phydeaux994

I bet those brothers were tight before June 16, 2015 when Trump ripped the old wound wide open. Brother against Brother is a great example of Trump’s reign of Hate.

CharlesNelsonReilly

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a serious disorder. Maybe even bordering on a public health crisis, I don't know. For confirmation, read the comments below. The left has totally lost its minds.

shiftless88

I know, I know; resort to name calling when facts are not on your side.

MRS M

Let's just hope no one refers to Mr. Reilly "scum"! Decent people must resist. Only Donald gets to call fellow citizens, who are working for (NO!...... laying their lives on the line for) an FBI Director appointed by himself, are enabled to use the word "scum"; by the cowards of Republican leadership, and those who remain his supporters. Odd, how Mr. Reilly, and others here, carelessly use words such as derangement, without fully understanding it's meaning, or the danger presented when the occupant of the Oval Office suffers it.......... (Now, when's he gonna fire his second FBI director?)

pilot25

Tolerance as long as you believe exactly what they believe. I tell you when Biden and Trump hit the debate stage it is going to be hysterical. I've got my pop corn ready.

awteam2000

Are you suggesting the ‘ right’ doesn’t know ‘right from wrong’, lacks a ethical and a moral compass? Their only allegiance is to Trumpism over national norms, the constitution, honesty or out side influence? You are really willing to have foreign governments influence our US elections - Russia, Ukraine, China, etc., willing to loss our sovereignty for Trump? Really? As Trump put it “I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not loss no a supporter”. WHY! Charley, are you one of them? Or do you have ‘common sense’?

public-redux

Chaz, Trump Condonement Syndrome is on the verge of wiping out the Republican Party as a conservative force. For confirmation, read the comments of the House and Senate GOP.

marinick1

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duffy5x

No!!!!! Not TDS!!!!! Anything but that!!!! I will we ever survive a "disease" that was made up by uneducated little lemmings in their vain attempts to bully people who are sane and educated. Eye roll...

mamlukman

Let's pretend we live in 1938, in Nazi Germany. Let's say for the sake of argument that you are an educated, liberal German. Should you "be tolerant" of what you know to be evil? Or would that make you a collaborator and complicit in the Nazi crimes? I think we all know the answer. You cannot be tolerant of evil. Trump is evil.

threecents

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Nicki

Good point, Mamluken!

DickD

[thumbup][thumbup] An evil is a understatement. But look at all of the Republican enablers.

veritas

And... right on cue, the Nazi accusations. Tedious.

phydeaux994

veritas, there’s nothing else to compare it to. That’s why it’s so terrible. Racist, Hate rhetoric at nearly 400 Rally’s of largely White people, to demonize and dehumanize not one, but many large groups of “undesirable” people. What else can you compare Trump to?

MRS M

I'm wondering if I would be allowed to call another poster in this comments section "SCUM"? We all know the answer. Yet Donald is enabled, and allowed this, and more.............with his supporters taking no responsibility for the loss of respect, and the growth of hatred and division in our nation. I would contend that he showed us who he was in 2015, (and prior to that if you knew his reputation as a NYC "developer") with the lie of birtherism What Trump supporters find themselves defending, or still attempting to explain away, is that they support a man (term used loosely) who does not defend the Constitution of the United States or honor his oath of office, but instead functions to protect his own self-interests while cloaked in words of hatred, division, and ugliness. All in an effort to lather up his "base". See how that manipulation works? To turn our country against itself? Yet, Trump supporters still can't understand why most who love our nation, and serve our country, can't bear to listen to their bogus defenses of a morally and ethically bankrupt "politician", slowly destroying the fabric of our country.

hayduke2

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Piedmontgardener

It's far passed time to allow vocal fringes in each party to control the stage. I'm equally disgusted by illiberal campus speech police as I am the vicious megaphones handed to the Trump base by Fox News pundits. Neither are representative of the majority of the country. However, the damage done by one vs. the other isn't an even slate. At present, one wants to shout down campus speech, the other wishes to deliberately misconstrue basic facts of actions by the President as acceptable and advance completely discredit conspiracy theories as fact. Not a good time in America.

Obadiah Plainsmen

There is a lesson to be learned from this letter. Don't involve yourself with other families problems. Even when the parties put their disfunctonal family in print for the world to see( well maybe just Frederick)it is still nonya business.

Dwasserba

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jsklinelga

Mr. Ziegler,

That sentence is frighteningly reflective of reality in current day America. In a way though I start to look at the positive. People my age remember J. Edgar Hoover and the Church Committee. We needed to "drain the swamp" For a few years, through Executive order, Judicial activism and an entrenched political bureaucracy the "left" was virtually unchecked. This is America. Times change. Action vs. reaction. What is happening now will be a huge plus for our country's future even though it may presently ruffle a few tail feathers. Let us pray for a tolerant middle road in the future..

shiftless88

jsk; have you paid attention to the unchecked executive orders and judicial activism under this administration?

hayduke2

That's what jsk likes.

hayduke2

Give examples of draining the swamp please!

awteam2000

Speaking of “ drain the swamp” JSK, you do know the number of indictments and resignations in the Trump administration are unparalleled. And never in America history has a US president seeked a foreign government to intervene, ‘dig up dirt’ on an political opponent to influence a presidential election. Trump is the first.

collinsm65

How about the intolerance of the right for anyone not lily white, anyone not originally from the Mayflower? The right seems to lack with any common sense and ethical properties at all and considers anyone not either religious or originally born and bred in 'murica to be a non-patriot if they disagree with them or want better schools that teach science over religion. They sure have tolerance for liars, misogynistic boobs that have shady mafia contracting histories, ties to Russian funding for many, many decades, who like dictators over elected officials, who think that free press is a blight on the world, who diss their own intelligence experts for debunked tin-foil hat wearing crowds, who intimidate witnesses, bribe other nations with mafiosi type veiled threats. Hmm....why the !!^!@#! should anyone tolerate that?

veritas

Well bless your heart, Collins.

awteam2000

Yes... I agree. No American should “tolerate liars, misogynistic boobs that have shady mafia contracting histories, ties to Russian funding for many, many decades, who like dictators over elected officials, who think that free press is a blight on the world, who diss their own intelligence experts for debunked tin-foil hat wearing crowds, who intimidate witnesses, bribe other nations with mafiosi type veiled threats.”

threecents

Nobody said the left is tolerant of stupidity. People on the left tend to be "tolerant" in the sense that they accept different religions, skin colors, hair colors, sexes, countries of origin, etc. Language nuances are not the forte of many to the right.

olefool

Appears to me that Zigler's got a few "tolerance" problems his self.... There are six "leftie" candidates approval rating ahead of Trump in a national poll; Biden's lead is fourteen percent. While Trump is disparaging a sixteen year old girl who bested him for the cover of Time Magazine person of the year. My, my, my, such tolerance he shows....

awteam2000

“Some people on both sides of the political spectrum preach tolerance. Well, the “tolerance” of the left was perfectly summarized by John Kaluza’s letter to the editor, Dec. 9: “I have a brother who is a Trump lover and I have no communication at all with him because I can’t stand listening to what comes out of his mouth.” “

That sounds like Kaluza has no tolerance of Trump, the person, his behavior rather then a lack of tolerance of the right. Trump’s disgusting behavior, lack of morality shouldn’t be tolerated by anyone, regardless of political spectrum.

BunnyLou

Yes indeed, it does sum it up nicely.

MRS M

What comes to mind is the president of the United States calling the men and women serving their country in the FBI "scum", doesn't it , bunnylou? How proud his remaining supporters must be, to see the vile and ignorant playbook continue. The majority of the country, however, continues to turn away, exhausted. Disgusted. Embarrassed.

matts853

Amen. You can’t have a reasonable discussion with the alt right Trump supporters. To them he can do no wrong. And whatever they think they know about him and what’s happening in general, is based in lies and misrepresentation from FoxNews et al., not to mention every other word that comes out of Trump’s mouth. You just can’t argue with someone that’s been lied to and doesn’t know it.

Dwasserba

Imo they're iso entertainment and a feeling of belonging, not interested in serious possible side effects. What takes place in DC has "nothing to do" with many lives, they don't personally know any "scum," none of it was real until a famous rich guy pretended to be one of them. How he presents himself for their approval is an insult. Hoodwinked.

threecents

Trump and his lawyer deliberately spreading lies to destroy the career of OUR former Ukraine ambassador would have been enough to impeach.

MRS M

"When they go low"......they STILL haven't reached the bottom, and there's no telling when it will end, short of defeating him in November. A truly, madly, deeply malignant and destructive individual, spreading his malignancy throughout our nation.

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