Market Street underground wiring, Carroll Creek flood control project, Harry Grove Stadium, Tivoli Theatre renovation and reuse, historic B&O Railroad station renovation and reuse, Francis Scott Key Hotel renovation and reuse, Weinberg Center for the Arts, Frederick Community Action Agency, Clustered Spires Golf Course, Maryland Smart Growth program, East Side Rising planning project, city offices moved to the old courthouse, downtown Frederick parking garages, and downtown Frederick revitalization.

What do all these things have in common? They are projects started or spearheaded by Ron Young, former Frederick mayor (four terms) and current senator.

Ron Young is running for re-election as state senator in Legislative District 3 against Jennifer Dougherty and Jennifer Brannan in the Democratic primary, and in the general election against Republicans Craig Giangrande or Billy Shreve.

How do the “accomplishments” of Dougherty, Brannan, Giangrande and Shreve in bettering Frederick stack up against those of Ron Young?

Don Burgess

Frederick

(48) comments

public-redux

des, Thanks for your thoughts on Copenhagen. Helpful.

shiftless88

The worst thing he did was unleash his son upon our county. Other than that, while I disagree with some of his positions/actions, overall he seems better than alternatives.

threecents

I don't think we can fairly blame Ron for how one of his sons turned out. I suspect there is a chemical imbalance in his brain, and I think the same sort of imbalance may exist in our president. Why people voted for them may be the result of a different sort of brain dysfunction.

DickD

You have some good points, Don.  No one in their right mind would vote for Billy Shreve and Jennifer is not far behind.  That leaves the other two. 

Still, your previous nastiness and sneakiness of Ron Young is not going to be forgotten either. You might be okay with Ron lining the pockets of the Plamondons and Randalls, many of us are not.

Burgessdr

Hmm. I thought you said the project was going to go belly up and the taxpayers would end up footing the bill. Please make up your mind.

shiftless88

They are not mutually exclusive; the land sale makes one group money and the sweet public subsidy makes the other group money. If things go belly up later on then taxpayers are left holding the bag. Of course the developers make a LLC that they clean out of capital as soon as they can so when things go wrong they just say "sorry, we no longer have any money". Of course the owners still get a lot of money, but the LLC is now bust and taxpayers pick up the slack.

DickD

No, don't believe I said that, it wouldn't bother me if it did. And I am not against the hotel, as long as it is done with private money.

des21

I've been to the Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen but where is the Tivoli Theater in Frederick? Rt. 40? That little dinner theater?

Burgessdr

Your knowledge of the history of Frederick is underwhelmong. If you are truly interested rather than just being prickly you might try simply googling "tivoli frederick"

threecents

Des still does not realize that he is Way off Broad Way.

des21

I'm sure that's clever but................

threecents

Sorry, Way Off Broadway is the dinner theater on route 40. The Weinberg used to called the Tivoli.

DickD

Don, if you mean the Weinberg Center, it is something Dave should be interested in. It gives you a lot of benefits, if you join. Still, it does cost $1,000 to join.

threecents

You don't have to join to go to the Weinberg. ??

des21

I guess, at the end of the day, I just din't care that much Don.

jsklinelga

Des21
Your comment reflects the changing nature of Frederick and possibly the changing nature of the politics of Senator Young. I am certain scores upon scores of Alderman Young;s original supporters spent many a Saturday afternoon at the Tivoli. Frederick has seen dramatic change, and much of it positive thanks to Mr. Young. Unfortunately now i believe Senator Young may have forgotten the ways of older Frederick and has adopted the politics of the new.

Burgessdr

Jsk. I am with you. Senator Young should be flogged in public for his emphasis on job creation, public education, and transportation. He has forgotten the good old days of Grimes and Daugherty.

jsklinelga

Mr. Burgess,
You are a poor advocate for Ron Young. Negative and somewhat hateful. Mr.Young is a character, there is no doubt. If we did not have an overbearing, deeply, deeply entrenched Democratic machine running MD politics I would vote for Senator Young in a heartbeat. But we do. And many are looking for change.But I have upmost respect for the vision, COURAGE and leadership that Senator Young has displayed over the years transforming Frederick.

public-redux

jsk, I had the impression you lived in district 4. If so, that would make it difficult to vote either for or against Ron Young who represents 3. If you do reside in 4, then he hasn't lost your vote.

public-redux

I'll be in Copenhagen for 48 hours this autumn. So far, Tivoli Gardens is not on my itinerary. Should it be? I'm not interested in the amusement park aspect but wondering if an after-dark visit just for sightseeing makes sense. My daytimes are pretty full.

I've never been to Copenhagen and have no idea if I'll ever get back.

des21

No, don't bother with Tivoli Gardens in Copenhagen. Great city but that's not great. Been to Weinberg a few times. Funny, other than mocking me none of you pleasant folks have told me where the darn theater is! So illuminating!

des21

Pub- Amalienborg (the royal residences) is worth a look as is Rosenborg Castle and gardens. The parliament complex is neat too although we couldn't get into the governing chamber the day we went. There is a place (there are about 4 distinct attractions in the complex) where you go underground and see the remains of Copenhagen Castle dating back to around 1000. It's where the royals lived and ruled until, after the 4th time it burned down (!) they purchased the Amalienborg buildings (which has a little museum.) We stayed in Nyhavn which is kind of hipsterish, really good restaurants but be prepared for the 25% sales tax and the 15% gratuity on everything. (Interestingly the reason so many Danes bike is that there is a 150% of sales price registration fee if you buy a car- spend 40k on a vehicle, spend 60k to register it. The Danes are one of the most highly taxed peoples on earth. When I told a server that it wasn't like this everywhere, she very innocently but excitedly asked "really?" I said, you probably get what you pay for, she said doubtfully, "I hope so." We took a tour outside the city to see Roskilde (where they royals are buried) and Elinsnore (Hamlet) and a Viking site (Viking was a verb, not a noun.) Farmers would "go Viking" or raiding, interestingly, our guide said he thought Danes were consistently the most "happy" people on earth because they were "too beaten down to know any better and we drink a lot." He showed an interesting antipathy toward Sweden who they tangoed with historically again and again. Everybody in Europe has got someone they demonize for slights 500 years old. Crazy but funny.)

des21

Not you Pub on that comment about mocking, I meant the resident oldsters who know better and shake their heads at youngsters like me. One thing I'll say about this site, it makes me feel young![beam]

Burgessdr

The Tivoli Theatre operated for 50 years until the interior was largely destroyed by the 1976 flood. A community based effort under then Mayor Youngs regime restored it and the Weinbergs donated the property to the city.

rbtdt5

20 W Patrick St
https://weinbergcenter.org/

des21

Well I appreciate the straight albeit circuitous answer Don, why not just say the Weinberg? I've been there a few times and thought it was ok. Not great acoustically. It was a porn theater for a time too right?

jessienjim

No more Ron, Karen or Brad and certainly no more Blaine. Long past time to retire the whole Young family. Parasites feeding from the public trough for far too long.

Burgessdr

Haters going to hate, and only contribution to Frederick is vitriol

des21

If you pave it, they will come Don.

Burgessdr

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Burgessdr

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DickD

Your nastiness stands out, Don!

des21

Don't do Facebook, sorry Don.

gary4books

[huh]

Titanman123

Please consult the infamous journal which will outline many other accomplishments ;)

gary4books

There are some "one issue voters" who are on a crusade and they do not seem to like Senator Young. That may be. But he has always been polite in answering my messages and has done a lot for Frederick. I will vote for him. So will my wife, who said "piffle" about his opposition. That is all I would say, too.

jsklinelga

gary4books
"and has done a lot for Frederick" could almost be classified as an understatement. Frederick would not be what it is today if it were not for Senator Young. Certainly he wants to carry forth his vision for downtown but... entrenched,long serving politicians help perpetuate entrenched political machines. I am not so sure Mr. Young still serves the true interests of the people that supported him for years. A well organized opposition campaign employing many of the distasteful campaign tricks so prevalent today could place Senator Young's reelection bid in serious jeopardy.

DickD

Jim, you and I think alike on this![thumbup] You could add Ron's whole family lives off of our taxes. Their was Blaine, Brad, Karen and Ron. Maybe someone from another family would be good.

Burgessdr

Yes, Karen got fabulously wealthy earning $25,000 as an Alderman, combined with Rons $40,000 as Senator allows them the life of luxury. The beatup Toyota Ron drives attest to their oppulent lifestyle at taxpayer expense.

DickD

You left out Brad and Blaine, Don.

public-redux

Ron told me once that Blaine expressed astonishment that Ron had been in public office for more than 20 years and hadn't parlayed that into personal wealth when there was so much opportunity for the taking.

gary4books

All that are not perfect, need not apply?

threecents

We should all be thanking him for the Carol Creek Project after last week's record rainfall. Downtown Frederick's prosperity is due to him. I was not going to vote for him, but changed my mind. He has knocked on my door prior to every election for years and has earned my vote.

gary4books

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sofanna

If the greedy and "geniuses" hadn't built on Frederick's flood plain along what is now called the "Golden Mile", which there no longer is, Frederick might not have been nearly as flooded as it has been for decades. Yet, our County Planning Commission, continues to give permits to build, build, build.
Thank you very much!

KellyAlzan

Ron Young will not get my vote as he did in the past.

gary4books

Who do you like?

Nicki

He gets a lot of flack but has done good things for Frederick.
Especially appreciate his vision.

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