Mass murders are occurring with astonishing regularity in our country, threatening to overwhelm us and numb us to the horror. To maintain our very sanity, we must look for lessons in the carnage, so that we can seek the changes that can keep us safer.

Two mass murders last weekend in Texas and Ohio — within 13 hours of each other — can give us valuable insight. And the short interval between the two slaughters shows that we have no time to waste.

Words matter. President Donald Trump began his campaign four years ago by calling Mexican immigrants in the U.S. illegally “rapists and murderers.” He has repeatedly denounced and tried to dehumanize Hispanic immigrants, calling them invaders.

When Trump asked rhetorically at a recent campaign rally in Florida what should be done with such immigrants, one man shouted: “Shoot them.” Instead of denouncing such words, Trump responded with a joke.

Is it any surprise that the manifesto written by the El Paso killer echoed the themes of an invasion that the president has so often repeated? The president cannot have been proud to see his ideas used to justify mass murder.

On Monday, Trump said “our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacism.” That is absolutely correct. Trump must remember that as long as he is president, the national conversation begins with him personally. He is the one who must directly condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacism.

In one example of an institution recognizing the power of words, the Naval Academy football team this week dropped its 2019 season motto, “Load the Clip,” after objections were raised by people in Annapolis. Just one year ago, a gunman shot five people to death at the Capital Gazette newspaper, only a few miles from Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium.

“We understand that it probably wasn’t appropriate considering the current climate and certain things that are happening in our society,” coach Ken Niumatalolo said. Good for him and good for Navy.

The police matter. Armed, well-trained police officers in Dayton stopped that attack within one minute, by killing the gunman. Their quick thinking, quick action and extreme bravery were inspiring. It also showed that gunfights are best conducted by professionals.

Gun rights advocates frequently assert that if more ordinary citizens carried guns, everyone would be safer because criminals would be reluctant to shoot. El Paso showed that is a false argument.

An estimated 1,000 to 3,000 people were in the Walmart when the shooting started. It is safe to assume that, at any Texas Walmart, a number of customers would be armed. At least one man was. Army Pfc. Glendon Oakley Jr. dragged children to safety after pulling out his gun, but he never fired a shot. Thankfully, no one did, because dozens more could have been killed in the crossfire. Just because residents can carry guns doesn’t mean they are trained to stop an active shooter.

Guns matter. In both attacks, the gunmen used military-style assault weapons, machines that are designed for the sole purpose of killing other human beings. They are ruthlessly efficient.

One fact alone is astonishing: The Dayton gunman killed nine people and wounded 26 others in less than a minute, perhaps as little as 30 seconds. Had he been firing a pistol, he never could have inflicted so much damage so quickly.

That is the single strongest argument ever made for banning assault rifles at the federal level.

Reasonable gun owners know this is true. The U.S. Constitution enumerates fundamental rights, but none of them are absolute. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press and even freedom of religion are all limited to some degree. You can’t, for instance, yell “fire!” in a crowded theater, unless, of course, there’s actually a fire.

We can limit the right to bear arms in the name of safety. Background checks, red flag laws allowing judges to remove weapons from dangerous individuals, and a ban on assault weapons would all be reasonable restrictions.

Republicans need to act. If the GOP wants to be part of the conversation, it must throw off the shackles of the National Rifle Association and the minority of gun owners who insist on no compromise.

Some Republicans know this. The governor of Ohio, in the wake of the Dayton shooting, has come out in favor of a red flag law for Ohio. Some Senate Republicans have offered support for a bipartisan bill to encourage states to adopt red flag laws. Other Republicans recognize that they need to get on the right side of this issue. Large majorities of Americans want reasonable gun control.

If Republican lawmakers cannot summon the courage to act, they will leave it to a future Democratic president with a majority in Congress, and the result is likely to be even more radical changes. The GOP needs to act now before the pendulum swings too far and they’re left out.

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MD1756

"One fact alone is astonishing: The Dayton gunman killed nine people and wounded 26 others in less than a minute, perhaps as little as 30 seconds. Had he been firing a pistol, he never could have inflicted so much damage so quickly." What is your proof to back up your statement about pistols not being able to inflict such damage in so short a time? It is quite possible under the right conditions for someone with even just one pistol to inflict such damage (maybe not with a revolver or muzzle loader but certainly with a semiautomatic and extra clips which take very little time to change out and keep firing).

gabrielshorn2013

Agreed. See Seung-Hui Cho from Virginia Tech. He used a pistol with an extended magazine to kill 33 people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting. The Dayton shooter used a modified pistol that fired .223 rounds. The Camden NJ shooter used a pistol to kill 13 people in 1949 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Unruh).

dancing donna

Yes, these are extreme times and calls for quick, extreme measures bc our freedoms have been taken away and our basic sense of safety and security is being blown away. To live in a day where going back to school shopping could be the last decision of your familys life should never happen. No, I don't believe guns kill. However, we don't have the time to work on broken family issues, mental health issues, mega drug use and abuse, racism, etc. All these things should and need to be addressed. It is too late and will take too long. In the meantime, remove the automatic weapons that give victims no chance of survival and the crazy person more power to kill in greater numbers. If we can not go to a concert, church, school, or even Walmart in freedom or be concerned that our children will be massacred in front of us, what does bearing arms matter? Has the value of human life dissolved to less than the right to bear arms?

rikkitikkitavvi

DD, You state that "We don't have the time to work on..." and "it is too late and it will take too long." to address the real causes of our country's societal decay? Is that what you are sayin? You clearly know what the problems are and I agree. I also agree that guns do not kill. We have surely become a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. But we have to do something, right? Do you truly believe deep down in your heart that removing semi-automatic, NOT automatic (as you stated) weapons will take less time AND solve the underlying problems that cause us to be in the situation that we find ourselves in today? If so, for how long does it solve the problem? Just long enough for you and your family to live in peace until we pass? Is that what you are looking for? What about the generations that follow us?



I'd like you to lay out all the logistics of your plan for removing the weapons that don't kill from beginning to end for me. Step by step by step. Where do you begin? What do you do first, second and third? Can you do that? Have a nice evening dancing donna.

wran

Addressing the drug problem will help a lot. Most of these shooters are drug users.

gabrielshorn2013

Correct wran, but most likely sellers protecting their market.

rikkitikkitavvi

The Pharmaceutical companies do protect their market with big time lawyers.

That guy

First, to clarify, you mean that a not-insignificant portion of mass shooters use PRESCRIBED psychiatric drugs.



Second, correlation is not causation. I find it far more likely that the underlying causes associated with mass shootings are also related to the necessity of psychiatric treatment. Income inequality, political radicalization, social isolation...these all also correlate strongly with both psychiatric drug use and mass shooters.

saogirl52

Gary, thank you for your service. I enjoy reading your comments; they're thoughtful. As you know, many others just write trash, totally unconnected to reality. I think they (male and female) must bellow and pound on their chests as they share nonsense with the rest of us. Please keep writing.

richardlyons

[thumbup]

gary4books

SAO - [beam]

gabrielshorn2013

I do agree with saogirl. Service to one's country is one of the highest callings. Thank you.

rikkitikkitavvi

Let's play a game. We'll call it TFHS= Tin Foil Hat Syndrome. The Texas shooting happened in the 16th congressional district. This was James F. O'Rourke's former District." Beto" for the fawners and accolades. Veronica Escobar took over for him. Also a Democrat. Is JFO thinking about another run since he will likely drop out. Did his "poll" numbers jump after this? I don't know or care. Remember, this is my game. He was caught grinning on camera before while he was insulting the President. Will he make another run for Congress when his presidential aspirations fail? Will this event propel him into the 16th once again with his promise of gun bans, no wall, and certainly no border? "Only God Knows". Kid Rock. Great song. So is Redneck Paradise with Hank Jr. I digress. Is the Deep State grooming him for something better? This is just one thread of possibilities for the left. Is he "Their Man" in one of the most travelled border crossings in These United States? Only time will tell.

Dwasserba

"The GOP needs to act now before the pendulum swings too far and they’re left out." Already too late to care. VOTE DEMOCRATIC

gdunn

Why? Dems are the ones who caused the problem to begin with.

bnick467

How so? Did Dems dismantle the mental health care system that had many of these people locked away 50 years ago? Did Dems stoke the flames of hatred and convince these people that Mexicans are a plague that needs to be eradicated? Did Dems guarantee their rights to buy and use semi-automatic assault rifles that inflict as much damage as possible? Please explain how Dems are the ones causing this problem, if you can.

DickD

There's a Constitutional right to bear arms. Right now we have massive numbers being murdered by these arms. The real question before us is, does the Constitutional rights to bear arms Trump the right to live - which is not in the Constitution.

Obadiah Plainsmen

Right you are Dick,the Supreme court cemented that conclusion in 1973 with Roe v. wade.

That guy

Deflection, try again.

gary4books

Amend the Constitution. Again. Let if fit our needs.

rikkitikkitavvi

In your perfect true moderate world vision right gary?

FCPS-Principal

No need to amend it. Just have a Democratic Congress re-interpret it correctly.

Obadiah Plainsmen

"We have no time to waste!" That's what first-time gun buyer are saying.



https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/gun-sales-surge-fueled-by-first-timers-mostly-for-concealed-pistols

BunnyLou

Your concern over the mass shootings is as phony as a three dollar bill. You see an perceived opportunity to blame the president for the deeds of sicko individuals who are left of left center politically and took it. Your



How come no similar outrage or reporting or on the murder/shootings occurring daily in the major democratic strongholds of Chicago, Baltimore, DC, New York, Newark, Philadelphia, Detroit, Los Angeles, etc.? Answer, you can’t blame the president for your party’s failed leadership.

shiftless88

Hey Bunny; stop focusing only on the part about POTUS then. How about some gun control. As has been stated ad naseum; every country has mentally ill, video games, violence and so on. But only one of these first world nations has murder at the level we do. Guns. That is the primary factor. Dangerous for law enforcement personnel as well since anyone could be armed. So, do we just accept these deaths including LEOs as the price we pay? If so, go ahead and man up and say it to the families of the dead. "Yes, your family member is dead but it is more important that we have free access to guns".

BunnyLou

Are you that naive to think that banning guns will stop shootings? If you think that, then you don’t know or don’t want to know how supply and demand work. There will always be someone there to fill the gap.

shiftless88

Hey Bunny; how come in all these other countries with strict gun control laws and a low number of guns there is also a low number of gun deaths? I mean, what could the difference be.....

rikkitikkitavvi

Too easy shifty. Depending on what "all these other countries" you are talking about. One answer that should be evident to you right off the top of your head should be, Fewer psychotropic drugs being dispensed.

gabrielshorn2013

Shiftless, you answered your own quest. Those countries that outlawed private ownership of firearms didn't have nearly the number of firearms that the US does. Hence, when they were confiscated, the firearm death rate dropped. The US now has north of 400 million firearms held in private hands. There is now a surge in demand again after the latest tragic event of a disturbed individual using a gun to exact vengeance for some imagined slight. Even if you could manage to get similar laws passed, what do you think the level of compliance would be? The other issue is that it may have reduced the number of murders or suicides involving firearms, did it reduce the number of murders and suicides overall? Not really. There are multiple instances in those countries where another weapon was used. Most recently a nutjob in Japan (where private ownership of firearms is illegal) used a gallon of gas to kill 31 people. France has strict firearm laws, yet there was Bataclan. Belgium has strict laws, but you might remember the terrorist incident in Verviers (down the street from a friend of mine). As for suicides, look up the suicide rates for Japan and South Korea, two countries where firearm ownership is illegal.

shiftless88

Gabriel; that is the lamest excuse ever. "It's too hard". You are like the guy on death row who eats a ton of food and then claims he is too fat to be hung. If you restricted ownership to a reasonable and constitutional level the number of guns in circulation would drop over time. No, the effects would not be immediate but that is no reason not to do it.

shiftless88

Oh, by the way Gabe; you just made the exact argument for allowing all drugs to be legalized, the drinking age lowered to 14, and the legalization of prostitution. Too much around to stop it.

gabrielshorn2013

Shiftless: Like vic used to say, “false equivalencies abound with you”. Your examples are nowhere near on point. First, the number of guns in circulation is already there. Your fat guy wasn’t fat when he got arrested, was he? So there was no pre-existing condition/situation. He got fat, so hang him anyway. The guns are already here, so there is a huge “pre-existing condition”. Next, please predict the length of time you believe that it would take to pare the number of guns down to “reasonable and constitutional level.” What does that mean? Per individual? Each and every one of my firearms serves a distinct purpose. Hunting big and small game (deer, rabbits, dusks, pheasants, elk), home protection, competition target shooting, trap and skeet, and long distance target shooting. So how many should you allow me to have to pursue my hobbies, (because each application is distinct)? BTW, do you play golf with just a putter or driver? I carry a full bag, and I am not going to give up one of my clubs, or my guns. If you mean the entire country, I’ll let you determine what that manageable number would be. So how long would it take to pare 400+ million to your reasonable number? Decades? A century? More? No, I never said it was too hard, it is pie-in-the-sky and will never happen, that’s the problem. Second, do you deny the facts about murders and suicides I gave you? According to the World Health Organization, the suicide rate for Japan (18.5/100K) and S. Korea (26.9/100K) where private firearm ownership is illegal, their suicide rate far exceeds ours (10.1/100K even with all our firearms). Even in Australia, where the rate dipped after the 1996 firearm ban, but is back at 12/100K (https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/09/27/australias-suicide-crisis-has-peaked-to-a-terrifying-new-height_a_21480647/). When one method is made unavailable, another one will take its place. “Doing something” to do something is not always the right thing to do. It will more than likely do nothing. Karl Bickel agreed with this position several months ago when I posted it. Doing the work to determine what the true nature of the issue is, is the challenge. Read the books by James Alan Fox, pre-eminent criminologist from Northeastern University, and noted expert on mass murder. His research shows that gun control will do nothing to prevent mass murder (https://web.northeastern.edu/jfox/Columns/seattle%20times%20guns%20mass%20murder.html), nor school safety (https://www.c-span.org/video/?441888-103/washington-journal-james-alan-fox-discusses-school-safety).

gabrielshorn2013

Shiftless, again with the false equivalencies. This response will be short. Drugs have a rapid turn around rate, and their numbers diminish rapidly without continuous replenishment. Guns have no shelf life. Drinking age lowered to 14? The liquor store or bar can easily shut off the supply to minors. Simple. Legalization of prostitution? Hey, I’m a Libertarian, and I have no objection to that. Bring it out of the shadows into a respectable profession. There is a chapter in the book “Super Freakonomics” by Levitt & Dubner that shows what happened when it was made illegal. Being a Madame was once respectable. It is not such a taboo in other countries. A good friend of mine confided to me that is how she put herself through college, grad school, and business school in Sao Paolo Brazil because she grew up poor. She is now a high level executive businesswoman with a PhD and an MBA. Don’t judge.

threecents

Gabe, Did you really mean to imply that taking all guns away would not effect murder rates? People will just switch to other methods like light gasoline on fire? Really?

gabrielshorn2013

No three, read it again. I wrote about suicide rates. Please click on the links for supporting information. I did convey the opinions of James Alan Fox of Northeastern that gun control will do nothing about mass murder or its subset, school shooting. Again, go to the links and to his research at Northeastern University.

threecents

Gabe, "Read it again"? Dang, you crack me up. I don't think it is going to get more insightful if I read it again. To me the most interesting stat's about suicide by gun is that it is almost always successful, while other methods are often not successful. Combine that with the fact that most people who fail in their attempt at suicide do not try again.

gabrielshorn2013

Three, you do have a point about firearm suicide in that it is nearly 100% successful. The success rate is why it is chosen. If you're disputing my numbers about suicide rates in Japan, South Korea (where private firearm possessions illegal), and Australia, I gave you the references, do some reading. If you are disputing James Alan Fox's analysis of mass murder and school shootings, you can read the analysis in his books, or contact him at Northeastern University. He is a guest on CSPAN whenever mass shootings occur. You can listen to his interviews from the CSPAN website. Anything else I can help you with this morning?

threecents

Rikki, Speaking of psychotropic drugs, I thing there are drugs for bipolar disorder that might put you on and evener plane.

rikkitikkitavvi

Why do the democrats WANT to take the guns away from law abiding American citizens when some nut kills people? You are deflecting from the root of the problem. That is what you people do to avoid discussing the issue at hand. Wizen up cents. The Truth shall set you free.

rikkitikkitavvi

"...bipolar disorder that might put you on and evener plane." Insulting me again when I'm on target cents? Pure avoidance/evasion on your part and everyone that believes in your point of view.

threecents

Rikki, True, sometimes I have insulted you because you insulted and/or threatened me and others, but I assure you, I did not call you bipolar as an insult. I did not mean that to be rude or funny. I honestly think that might be the reason for your recent excitability in these posts and why you challenged people to fights in previous posts.

rikkitikkitavvi

I can give as well as take Mr. Cents. OK. OK. No, the reason is because the tactic I'm using now works much better. Let me explain something to you. I used to frequent a bar called Chocolate Park (now just the Park) in Highfield/Cascade, MD. It hasn't changed much. Googlemap it. It was within walking distance from my house just over the PA line. Across the street from the Unique bar. A story for another time. One summer 83 maybe 84. I was in my early 20's. I got in 1 sometimes even 2 fights every weekend. Then we'd go in and get even drunker than we were before we got into in to it. It was all in good fun. Fists only back then. Times have changed for the worse. Trump did it. I eventually got kicked out. So you see, my first response is always "let's rumble" Insert curse word here. But I like what I'm doing now more because the dems AND your "squad" on here ain't got NOTHIN'(!) and you are all running around chasing your tail feathers like a chicken with his head cut off. You just don't see it because of your TDS affliction. Trump did this.Trump said that. Look what Trump tweeted. It is freeking hilarious to watch everyone implode. Have a MAGA weekend cents. insert middle finger here.

BunnyLou

Typical press maneuver of cherry picking quotes and then misrepresenting what the president actually said. This is disgusting and disgraceful. I know this is an editorial opinion, but nonetheless you should strive to be a little more honest.

Finally, what word would you use to call a group of people, over a million strong, overrunning our southern border? Invasion is the correct word and you know it.

Dwasserba

Refugees

rikkitikkitavvi

Illegal aliens

rikkitikkitavvi

From now on anyone trying to enter the USA needs to pass a Universal background check.

BunnyLou

Sorry, wrong.

rikkitikkitavvi

Me! Me! Me! Pick me Bunny. I know. I know.

Shucks, I typed that soon as I saw "what word would you"

gary4books

"No time to waste?" I agree but we always wondered why we did not have time to do something right, but made time to do it over? And to do this right we will need to ammend the Constitution. The logic is here. The Second Amendment has only one reason listed to support the conclusion "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Since we have a fully operational Militry and not a Militia, that day has passed. There may have been other reasons to keep arms, but they were never listed. So change the Constitution. If it needs to be done it may be difficut and slow, so pass laws now and when challenged the Constutional questions will be moot. And just in time.

BunnyLou

The need to keep and bear arms keeps us safe from the tyrannical rule you and your type want to impose here.

DickD

Bunny please explain how the right to bear arms is protecting us from our fanatical POTUS, Trump.

rbtdt5

We don't need protection from President Trump. At least not yet.

phydeaux994

Oh yes we do rikkitikkitavvi. He is a Putin, Kim Jong Un, Saudi Arabian Prince Mohamed bin Satan wannabe who envies their ability to imprison or murder their critics just like he tried to do with Hillary. And eventually even the RRR(RadicalRightRepublicans) would be in his crosshairs.

rbtdt5

Phy, are you talking to me? If so, please refer to this as you were looking for an example of something you say that shows you as far left and not moderate. Geesh

phydeaux994

How does my comment make me far Left, it has nothing to do with my Politics. As far as my comment, I’m just reporting what Trump said about Kim Jong Un....



“He is the head of a country – and I mean he is the strong head,” Trump said of Kim during a surprise appearance on Fox News.

“Don’t let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”

Trump then said of Kim’s removal of three top generals was him “firing them – at least. Fired may be a nice word.”



Now as far as your Politics, I think that far, far, far would be appropriate.

gary4books

If that was their main reason, why did they say something else? We vote for and against that.

rikkitikkitavvi

His rule is not "tyrannical". The HateTrump fan club is.

rikkitikkitavvi

I guess logic is whatever you say it is?

gary4books

I guess you never studied geometry. Logic is the mathematics of languge.

DickD

Strong language for you, Gary. I like it. [thumbup]

rikkitikkitavvi

But you said there was no math involved. I hate math.

BunnyLou

Apparently, you never studied calculus because your logic analogy was in the area below the curve.

gary4books

My University degree included a minor in mathematics with calculus, differential equations and vector analysis.

DickD

Rick hates math and as you imply saying math is the language of logic, Gary. Guess Rick doesn't like math. No, Rick brags about getting into fights. He very plainly tellsus all we need to know about him.

StrengthofLiberty

What matters is dignity, self respect, honor, responsiblity. In the state of our cherished nations political gang war, the American people, the voter, the citizen is being used the same way a child is weaponised in these sleazy couple divorces, break-ups or crack ups. Both share the same culpability, the same modus operadi. Only - the democrat comes at us with constant vilification. Constant desire to remove, and replace. Never ever detailing the consequences of some of the expensive campaign promises. Tell us - what does an open border look like? What are the ramification on the economy and society should reparations be mandated? What do the American people do to defend themselves should our guns be taken away? Constant behavioral modifications that are hoped to made law. What type of person are we if we succumb to the constant bombardment of belittlement, in hopes of what - One party rule? To believe in the vague rhetoric of American democracy means NOW - OPEN BALLOTS FOR THIRD PARTIES - if only as mediators in our parents constant beating on one another and the American everyone of us we apparently were tricked into believing - Maybe this time ...

gary4books

Nobody that will be elected promises "open borders" or even to take all the guns away." One person promised a much better law than the ACA, and I still wait to see it. He raised my income taxes 35%.

rikkitikkitavvi

Nice wordsmithing secret agent man. "Nobody that will be elected promises..." This in turn means no democrat will be elected. Look at the dem debate clips on various internet sites and you will agree. MAGA 2020

rikkitikkitavvi

America has become to big and corrupt to remain a Democracy SoL. and the left knows it.

rikkitikkitavvi

*too* for all the proofers out there.

cleanrunoff

The majority of folks in the USA are totally OK with the way things are working out. As long as that holds true, we can look forward to stability and peace, and making more $$$.

BunnyLou

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threecents

Bunny, I think Clean was being sarcastic.[tongue_smile]

niceund

As usual, ultra liberal, left leaning FNP is drinking the koolaid. The keyword which has been forgotten is ILLEGAL. It defies logic how so called journalists ignore the truth.

gary4books

I expect that you are right. But you may be ignoring the fact that one bill passed in Congress with a vote in the Senate (think McConnell who refuses a vote) ill make that question irrelevant and immaterial. Build a wall or change the law? I say pass a new immigration law and leave the workers alone. No amnesty, just legal. (I presumed your comment was without illegals we would have not had a shooting.)

rikkitikkitavvi

Build the Wall first. Part of the Constitution isn't working, and to provide for the common defence and general Welfare of the United States. That's supposed to be the Law of the land but some people want to change it or do away with it to make it in their image. Why bother with another law when that one among many others are not working. Just ONE more inch, I mean law. Right?

phydeaux994

The Constitution and the Rule of Law are just impediments in his agenda, just like the Congress and the Courts and the Justice Department and the State Department and the Department of Defense and the Intelligence Community and Munchkins IRS which he is slowly putting his henchmen in charge of to do his bidding. Can’t you see that rikkitikkitavvi?

gary4books

The LAW of the USA land is that Congress spends the money and says what we buy and build and when and how. The POTUS is a clerk to do their will.

BunnyLou

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Jeepers11md

The problem is not the guns the problem is that our laws protect the shooter too much, after a shooting he get free room and board, three meals a day, free medical care and not a worry in the world, Our laws need to change I believe when you kill someone, you need to be hung in public and show others that we will not tolerate this anymore, until these fancy lawyers and law makers change things, it will continue to happen. It is not the guns, it's our laws that protect the gunman

gary4books

Never take that which you can not return if and when you make a mistake. And for many a death penalty is a prize over being stuck in a cell for the rest of their life to consider how much evil they have done. No need to give them an "easy way out."

rikkitikkitavvi

Kinda like gary here jeepers If he wore pearls he'd be a pearl clutcher.

gary4books

I am a former Special Agent of Army Intelligence. We never wore pearls or even "basic black."

rikkitikkitavvi

"Army Intelligence" ? [lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol] The perfect oxymoron. That explains it all. "Secret Agent man"?[lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol][lol] That is too, TOO funny. Glad I wasn't taking a drink when I read that.[lol][lol][lol] Bless you and your Secret AAAAgent man. Secreeet AAAAgent man. Join in Gary I know you know the words. Come on give it a whirl. You never do that kari-o-kee stuff when you are out with your friend?BWaaaaaaaahaha


gary4books

pearl clutcher

An uptight person, usually but not always female, usually but not always of conservative mores, who reacts with shock, feigned or otherwise, at other people's violations of decorum, propriety, morality, and so forth.

Someone got up at the PTA meeting and suggested the school hand out condoms to teenagers. The pearl clutchers in the audience nearly went into cardiac arrest.

gary4books

And who reacts with shock (feined or otherwise) here? With slews of icons? We know who.

rikkitikkitavvi

@jeepers 4:59am Agreed. The bleeding heart liberals ended era long ago. See what we have now.

francesca_easa

I agree Jeepers.

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