Gun Rally Goers

From left are Annette Breiling, Carrie Larson, Susan Smith and Terri Mawdsley, Frederick County members of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, who will rally in Washington on Sunday for stricter gun laws.

Just over a week after two people in San Bernardino, California, walked into a government building and shot and killed 14 people, a group of Frederick County mothers are heading to Washington to pressure federal lawmakers to change the nation’s gun laws.

Carrie Larson, a mother of three from Frederick, said she’s tired of hearing excuses while there’s one mass shooting after another. She imagines her own kids at risk every time there’s another shooting, she said.

“Why are we so afraid of [stricter gun laws]?” she said. “It’s crazy that we have to sit back and do nothing and wait for the next shooting to come around.”

Susan Smith, of Frederick, has two grown children. She worries about them because of the seeming randomness of where recent mass shootings have occurred. She can’t sit by and let anyone’s children be killed by gun violence, she said.

Larson and Smith will join as many as 400 mothers from across Maryland and Virginia on Sunday as they participate in an “Orange Walk.” Together, they’ll march from Freedom Plaza along Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest to the steps of the White House clad in orange — the color hunters wear for protection — demanding solutions for the nation’s growing gun violence.

The event is sponsored by Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, a group that supports gun control, and its umbrella organization, Everytown for Gun Safety. Moms Demand Action was created in the wake of the 2012 shootings in Newtown, Connecticut, where 20 children and six staff members were killed after 20-year-old Adam Lanza entered Sandy Hook Elementary School with semi-automatic weapons. Dec. 14 marks the third anniversary of the shootings.

Mothers will participate in as many as 100 cities across the country.

The National Rifle Association said the marches are part of an effort by some to infringe on people’s Second Amendment rights. Amy Hunter, spokeswoman for the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action, said that no new law will prevent another mass shooting from happening.

“You can’t have possibly have more gun laws than California has, and it still happened there,” she said. “You’re creating rules for the sake of rules. And those rules hurt law-abiding citizens.”

Terri Mawdsley, who organizes events in Frederick County for Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, said the march is part of the group’s efforts to create a counterargument to the powerful “guns at all costs” message coming from the NRA. She said she’s not anti-gun; rather, she simply wants reasonable restrictions in place to prevent the worst atrocities from occurring.

As an organization, Moms Demand Action advocates closing the federal loophole that allows guns to be sold at gun shows without background checks. They also support limits on where and how guns may be carried and used in public.

Mawdsley said the group’s goal, until federal legislation is passed, is to get stricter laws passed state by state. Evidence shows that states with stricter laws have less gun violence, she said. But those individual state efforts are often hindered because they border a state with weaker gun laws, making it easy for illegal guns to be trafficked across state borders, she said.

In Maryland, for example, under the Firearm Safety Act of 2013, Marylanders cannot possess, sell, transfer, purchase or receive a handgun or an assault-style weapon unless they pass a background check, undergo four hours of safety training and are approved for a handgun qualification license. The law also bans some assault-style rifles.

But statistics from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives show that Maryland recovered more than 1,000 illegally owned firearms in 2014 that were traced back to either Pennsylvania, Virginia or West Virginia, she said.

In Frederick County, Mawdsley said she’s trying to create a dialogue with residents she knows might not support her views. The group set up an informational booth in downtown Frederick for December’s First Saturday event, and she said she spoke with several people who disagreed with her. She has also contacted Frederick County Public Schools about implementing gun-safety education in the schools.

“If we just stop and talk with each other, we almost always come to some common ground,” she said.

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cldeboin

So proud of my / our dear friend, Annette, and all of the other mothers involved ! I, too,
will be marching, as a husband, and father, and a fellow inhabitant on Mother Earth !
I'm declaring today; (just as John and Yoko) did about the atrocities incurred in Vietnam; that "In the great battle between light and dark, LIGHT WON A LONG , LONG TIME AGO "!! Let's face it, the N.R.A. and the blood that is spilled (in it's promotional efforts, with P.A.C. monies, and false lobbying efforts; creates havoc both regionally, internationally, and MUST END !!
- - In peace always and in all ways.

awteam2000

I wish when I grow up I can be like Annette, a true humanitarian. .[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

timothygaydos

Guns are not the problem and more gun laws are not the answer. When we start addressing the real problems associated with the following then maybe crime rate and these shooting epidemics will decrease in the USA:

1. Illegal Immigration and influx of criminals
2. Embedded Islamic Terrorists coming thru as Syrian Refugees and other avenues
3. Illegal Drug Business
4. Gangs - especially MS13 to name one in the MD region
5. Mental Health Care
6. Personal Accountability for Actions

We have other problems associated with death in this country from illegal drugs, car accidents, than we do from gun violence. Every time there is a shoot mass murder type event; the liberals come out for more gun control. Rather than analyzing the real root cause and eliminating it or reducing that root cause from erupting into violence.

johnqFrederick

good points, and WFMD reported that there were over 56 deaths from heroin overdoses . . . should we outlaw illegal drugs? or should each drug user register, make an appointment at a government run facility, have the heroin dispensed and administered by a government official, . . . this gets to be tiresome following liberal logic

cldeboin

Tresome or factual ?? !!

awteam2000

Tim this is start. Are you in agreement to prohibit guns to your list?

bosco

The root causes are more difficult to address and are not a popular course of action for most liberals. A march for anything produces immediate good feelings and a sense that the marchers are actually accomplishing something - while the root causes of a lack of personal responsibility and too many failed parents go unchecked.

cldeboin

If we can change one NRA indoctrinated "mind"; the march, will, INDEED be worth it !
== A VERY PROUD PROGRESSIVE SOCIAL DEMOCRAT !!

jsklinelga

SAD !!!! In this edition of the paper there is a letter to the editor regarding the "Heroin Task Force." and its dismal efforts to combat the pharmaceutical epidermic
in this country.

The writer is not a marcher nor daily commenter but an involved activist. The Gun control article received over 80 comments while the other letter received 2. At least 25000 people died from drug overdoses this year. That is a five fold increase in a little over a decade. That number is just the provable deaths. It does not take into account the number of lives destroyed and the subsequent huge financial burden on our country.

Who is more likely to commit a crime; a gun owner or an addict? What represents a far greater danger to our society? I wish the moms would march for this but chances are they all have their prescriptions.

DickD

Gun owner and addict equals trouble.

DeDeuceCoupe32

Drug addicts sell their souls, their guns, their mothers even the kitchen sink. I know that the war on drugs and drugs being illegal isn't the answer to the problem. But it does add the criminal element, making it easier for your mindset to digest.

cldeboin

Handgun owner definitely means paranoid trouble !!

awteam2000

JSK, Why don't you march for addicts? Most mom do everything?

vicdavy

It is so predictable that any article about gun control and reasonable measures sends the PGFs off the deep end. Freedom=Guns,Right!? The Big Picture is beyond the comprehension of the Fearful.

DeDeuceCoupe32

The gun nuts believe the NRA and the gun lobby are on their side. LOL. It's all about the money, putting gun purchacers in panic mode isn't by accident. A well maintained quality made firearm will last a lifetime. Until every citizen is suckered, the same base is tricked into fearing the boogy man.

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ClareS

You are correct. A friend of mine just went out and bought his first gun in case the right to buy guns is taken away.

Makemyday

Let me put it bluntly for all the anti gunners posting here...there are over 100 million law abiding gun owners in the US. We collectively own over 400 million firearms an% are used to shoot someone...and of those shootings 612% are suicides, 21% are justifiable, 3% are accidents and the rest are crimes. The president, congress and the supreme court could rule that gun ownership by civilians is illegal and we are still not going to turn them in....and if they try we will kill them

rpkrauss

Sooo… of all the shootings in the United States 612% are suicides???

vicdavy

makemyday,OK Clint,do you talk to empty chairs too?

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Makemyday

Most people? you need to do some more checking...

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DickD

Yeah, you are right, most want total elimination of guns, I don't. But look at it this way, combine those against guns totally with those that want reasonable gun control and maybe we can come up with laws we can all live with.

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jgrose79

Nice to be judged by you because I am pro gun. Are you so uninformed that you don't understand how technology works? That's anyone can create a gun with a 3D printer and some machine work? Do you not realize that magazines can be made from sheet metal and springs? So if you are worried about me having a 100 round drum magazine and want to ban it, please remember that those who intend to do harm will make them or get them through the black market just as folks do with illegal drugs. Remind me again how the drug trade is shut down because of laws? I know plenty of the same folks commenting here have drug violations in the past and still do drugs. Good thing the laws work huh?

jerseygrl42

How about stricter laws governing who is allowed to enter this country , that and better vetting might have stopped the muslim terrorist woman who killed 14 innocent Americans from entering the country...and how about taking away cars from people found texting or talking on the phone while driving and killing pedestrians, bike riders and other people in autos ...or maybe we should sue the auto makers for selling cars to people who text.....more opportunities for the lawyers to cash in .....and there are dozens of silly opportunities to do harm to innocents because of the deeds of criminals and terrorists.....get real ....the criminals will always find a way to get the weapons including buying arms from ATF, another scandal you might remember

awteam2000

So, don't try.

DickD

This makes good sense to me, if they plan ahead and let others know, many will join them. Someone should start doing the same on the churches, they are responsible for the terrorism they are causing against Planned Parenthood. Their far right rhetoric to some of unsound mine is causing problems and they refuse to accept murder for any reason is murder. I cannot accept murder for any reason, even if they can.

jgrose79

I have never been to a church that condones murder of any kind. You are being very driscriminatory in your statement. It's very weak. You do not have to agree with religion. That's fine, but please refrain from labeling all religions as a problem.

DickD

No, it is you that cannot understand. I go to church every week, I have heard all about abortion, I have seen people from our churches protesting abortion, not the murders committed by some of these fanatics. I have heard our priest try to get everyone to vote for Bush, while he does nothing to condemn war or Bush that started two wars under false pretenses.

gabrielshorn2013

If what you say is true Dick, your priest is violating the conditions of his churches tax exempt status. I would think the Catholic Church would have a problem with that.

twhit8225

I recently had two friends both engineers, both extremely intelligent. Both self admitted gun nuts. My friend John, multiple engineering degrees, full security clearances, worked on the Poseidon missile system, the Space Shuttle and many other secret government programs. John has hundreds if not thousands of guns including an Eliot Ness type Thompson machine gun. Never once got a permit or went through a background check.
Bill who recently passed also owned hundreds of guns including a fully automatic machine gun. the main difference between these two friends was that bill went through background checks on all of his guns including a full ATF background check that took several weeks to complete.
The reason I am writing this is to prove that if you wanted a gun you can buy anything you want as long as you have the money.
The only way to stop the free flow of guns is to close the many loop holes that allow guns to be easily sold and transported across state lines.

jgrose79

I can tell you that there is no way your friend has a fully automatic firearm without waiting at least 6-8 months or longer to receive a federal tax stamp for a class 3 license to own such a firearm. If he did get a fully automatic by other means then your friend is a felon. Period. NRA members and gun rights activists are not condoning those types of ownership nor would they ever. Sorry. We are always talking about law abiding citizens for a reason. It's free will that causes these issues. Humans have free will to do as they wish. Nothing can stop them. If someone wants to kill people, they will do it.

johnqFrederick

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DickD

How do you stop people bringing guns with them, when they move state to state? None of my guns were bought in Maryland or even after coming to Maryland.

bjonesskins69

I like the previous commenter on an unrelated article that claimed teaching everyone martial arts would be a safe alternative to gun ownership. LOL!

jgrose79

Please excuse the typos in my rant below. It's very hard to type on an iPad in this very small window that the FNP gives you to comment on their mobile site. Throw in auto correct and it's a complete nightmare.

DickD

auto correct can sometimes change your total meaning.

jgrose79

These women are ridiculous. I can guarantee you that not one single person going to DC for this rally from this group have any clue about the differences between many of the firearms that they want to ban or regulate. These people have very little clue about some of the laws that were put in the place in Maryland and various other states. To be honest they could care less. These folks have one agenda and one agenda only to disarm law-abiding citizens and to take away your gun rights. If you were to put 30 people in a room with two arm Terisu walking to shoot them would you rather have a couple people aren't willing to defend you or would you rather be in a room full of unarmed people and be sitting ducks? Commonsense should prevail that most people would rather be shot by the bullet of a police officer or conceal carry holder trying to defend their life than that of a terrorist trying to take it. Statistically the odds of being shot by conceal carry holder or a police officer in one of these situations is so low that it barely even registers on any type of gun violence statistic. In fact police commit more crimes with their firearms off-duty than that of any conceal carry holder. Most of these liberal anti-gunners can't figure out which stance they want to support. On one hand they claim that the police and military should be the only ones carrying firearms and should be the only ones who get to carry off-duty. On the other hand the same folks get upset in protest and say that the police are corrupt and are killing too many black people and too many innocent citizens. None of these people are the ones out dealing with crime and putting their lives in danger they are mothers. You would think that the people who would be against citizens caring guns would be the police officers because the police are the ones who have to deal with citizens on a day-to-day basis and are exposed to the possibility of a citizen using a firearm against them. I dare anyone to go ask the majority of police officers that they meet on the street how they feel about citizens being arms I dare anyone to go ask the majority of police officers that they meet on the street how they feel about citizens being armed. I can guarantee that they will tell you that they think that it is a good way of shutting down soft target areas like him free zones and various other places where mass amounts of people gather and could possibly be sitting ducks. As a 2A rights activist and supporter I've spent a large amount of time shooting with police officers on the range and in various other training sessions. But hey, lets take it from a group of women who apparently know more about firearms, more about the dangers police officers face and feel that it is better to sit in a corner and cower when an active shooter comes into a situation or room and decides that they want to kill everyone in the place. They have not one clue what they're talking about nor do they care. The agenda is what drives them. All statistics point to the fact that these people are wrong. Thankfully the American public has actually gained some common sense and has started to investigate this issue in a lot more detail. Most people understand that it is better to have an option to defend yourself than it is to simply become a victim. However these women are completely fine with trying to legislate to take away rights of the people so that they can become victims as well. If these women want to become victims that is their right and I fully support it. Nobody is ever going to advocate that everyone must be armed and everyone must comply with the Second Amendment. If you feel that you do not like guns or that you feel you shouldn't have a gun or you feel you can't handle carrying a firearm to protect yourself or others then the answer is simple. DON'T! There is no shame in knowing your own limitations and setting your own rules for your own personal life. I am very tired of people with no common sense causing massive Steria and panic in the minds of the less informed which only serves to take away our rights discriminate upon gunowners and completely make us all victims. To be honest these women disgust me because I find them to be just as discriminatory as somebody who bashes gays or women's rights. Guns issues are not just a safety issue or an issue of protecting our country. Guns are a social issue and these people are on the wrong side of it by making others victims simply because of their own personal beliefs. Go be a victim on your own but do not talk to somebody like me who wants to defend themselves and tell us that we are wrong. We are tired of your efforts to make us victims and to be honest it is a pathetic display of how inhumane Democrats and anti-gunners have become. They are hypocrites at the highest level claiming that all Muslims should not be judged for the actions of a few Terrace but that all gunowners should be judged and have their right stripped away because of a few idiots that murder folks with guns. I would bet good money that if one of these women had a gun pointed to their head and had just watched others around them be shot by a wouldbe criminal they would probably wish that they had a gun in their hand instead of sitting there waiting for a police officer to arrive. if they wanted to combat gun violence they should start by forcing those in power to actually enforce the laws on the books and put people to wo if they wanted to combat gun violence they should start by forcing those in power to actually enforce the laws on the books and put people away for maximum sentences. Every time you read of the person who shoots someone and kills them 99.9% of the time these criminals and murderers are repeat offenders with a felony weapons charges on their record a mile long. They should talk to Brian Frosh, the states attorney general, and ask why he doesn't prosecute these criminals and why they are out on the street walking around with every day citizens who mean no harm! But no, they will simply attack any and all gun regulations and will always say there are not enough, because more regulations and more government control to these folks means safety. If that were the case then why do they still feel unsafe considering all the laws that of been put in the place in Maryland and various other states across the country? Could be the fact that these laws are not working and that we have enough? Could it be that there are other things that need to be looked at in order to make our world a safer place? I would say yes and I would also say that these women are completely wasting their time barking up the wrong tree. Go find something better to do! Perhaps an underwater basket weaving class!

fes9999

Paragraphs?[unsure]

jgrose79

If you only see the screen that pops up for me to type in. Do you have anything else to critique or are you simply going to comment on paragraph structure because you have nothing to add that's constructive?

anony936

It simply makes it easier to read - especially in log posts.

DickD

As a suggestion, use your web browser or other e-mail servers for writing and then paste into the comment section. One problem I have is even when I do this, the FNP does not keep my paragraph structure.

armillary

jgrose79, "seriously? how profound of you.

Some people care. Some people just like to annoyance with nothing of substance to offer. You are excellent at the latter"

jgrose79

I care. I have a 6 year old daughter and just read an article regarding a man who was released from prison after numerous assaults and armed robberies. This man went to a random home and decided to break in at night and stab their child numerous times in the head killing him while he was sleeping. The parents heard him come in but had no means of defense and called the cops. I will rush in if I can and I would eliminate him. I will have my wife call the cops while this is going down. Again, that's if I can get there in time. I'm not waiting 5-25 minutes for cops to show up. I want the best means of defense available to handle situations of which I may not know what an intruder is carrying to harm me or my family. I really don't understand how you feel it's ok to bar me from defending myself and others. The sad thing is that I am discriminating upon by the anti gun community putting my life in danger based on your uninformed views and personal choices. That is why I defend the 2A. Ignorance is an opinion. My opinion is that you are ignorant. For what's it's worth.

gabrielshorn2013

That doesn't solve the problem of the murderer or molester being on the prowl. It just transfers the risk and consequences onto someone else. Not everyone can afford to move either. That's one of the reasons that poor people tend to live in bad neighborhoods.

BlueDawn666

jgrose

Huh you as well are suffering from confirmation bias - Did you read Eric's letter he has case of that as well.
In psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias (or confirmatory bias) is a tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions, leading to statistical errors.

Don't worry we will be patient with you and allow you to make all the statistical errors, which is nice way to say make a fool out of yourself, you want. May logic and reason one day guide your path.
But I will not be holding my breath.

DickD

You could have summed this up in a dozen words and made more sense.

vicdavy

Great article these lady know the. Truth! The typical gun nuts respond. Why do we even have In God We Trust on our currency. For these PGF s it should say In Gun We Trust!

anony936

Acronym "PGF" = Precision guided firearm ? (Not being smart or stating an opinion - just looking for information, thank you).

vicdavy

PGF=Paranoid Gun Freaks! You must be a new gun worshiper,LOL!

anony936

No - I've had guns all my life. When I see an acronym I don't get, I go to Google and type it in. In this case it didn't help, but thanks for taking the time to explain.

jgrose79

Don't leave MD then buddy. I'd hate for you to visit the Wild Wild West like VA, PA and WV. It's just unsafe for you. So many people with guns not killing anyone everyday. It's just crazy when you cross the state line. So much less violence like we have in MD and less gun restrictions. Yeah, a scary place for a confused liberal.

petersamuel

These people are well-intentioned but wrong. No way will gun control ever keep deadly weapons out of the hands of determined fanatical killers like the Islamists in San Bernardino, Paris, Sydney etc. More restrictive laws will only make it more difficult for good people to be armed.

The Jihardis have the support, the time, and the money to get around any gun control laws legislators might enact, as proven by the fact they are able to shoot and slaughter in places (Europe, Australia, California) with the tightest gun control laws.

Lets get real. Given that laws cannot disarm organized Jihardi killers we need self-defense against them. The police can rarely get to the scene of a Jihardi slaughter within five or ten minutes, during which time scores of people can be killed. We cannot afford paid security guards at all the vulnerable events either.

Every major gathering of innocent people - in restaurants, halls, schools, sports events, on trains, church services, shopping malls etc - needs to include some good citizens going normally about their daily lives while carrying concealed weapons for use in fighting back against the Islamist killers. Our governments can’t defend us fully. It is too big a job. We need volunteer efforts to train good citizens in close quarters combat with Jihardis and to encourage them to carry their weapons for self-defense and for defense of others.

Gun control laws must respect the Second Amendment to the Constitution and allow good people to carry a gun with them wherever they go. The only realistic way to deter these mass killings is to ensure that the intending killers will face immediate armed resistance. We must stop going like helpless lambs to the slaughter.

anony936

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elymus43

These mothers are protesting the wrong thing. There has been approx. 50-60 children aborted in this country. They should be out protesting abortion

anony936

What? Did you even read it before you hit send?

DickD

What about the killings caused by the churches that cause the killings at Planned Parenthood?

johnqFrederick

yea, right, I read where a church drove into a gun free school zone and opened fire

Dang churchs

DickD

Maybe they aren't religious fanatics and believe in women's rights.

bjonesskins69

The State of MD needs to unshackle law-abiding gun owners and permit them to have concealed carry approval. You cannot expect/ trust the government to protect you.

DickD

bj, you can get that now, with good reason.

bjonesskins69

No, it's purely subjective and most of the time you must have already been the victim of a crime, as a prerequisite

johnqFrederick

In the wake of an Oval Office speech which went over so terribly that it has Politico openly wondering whether the entire form of presidential address is dead, yesterday’s announcement from Donald Trump that he believes the U.S. must block all Muslims from entering the country, “until our countries’ representatives can figure out what’s going on”, finally resolves the question about President Obama’s greatest political legacy.

It is no accident that President Obama’s America has given rise to Donald Trump. It is an America that is more tribalist, where people feel more racially and religiously divided; more politically correct, where people feel less free to speak their minds; and it is an America where trust in the nation’s elites, whose skills are credentialed but unproven, are at historic lows.

awteam2000

So, you are in favor of stricter gun laws?

Mitchell

You can not rationalize with some people. The nut back shoots all of those people in the SC church and we attack the confederate flag because some people have highjacked it into a symbol of hate, so be it. But we constantly have people committing murders around the globe using the Quran as justification for their acts and we are told to recognize that not all people who love the Quran act this way. I am a retired law enforcement officer. Recently I saw a guy I arrested numerous times wandering through my town. This surprised me as his last conviction was for several armed robberies in which he was not due to be released from prison until 2021. Well he did half of his 12 year sentence. Don't talk to me about more gun laws.

Anyone can go to your local GM dealer and buy a corvette that out of the showroom will reach 181 mph. There are approximately 38,000 people killed each year in auto accidents and yet no one cares you can buy a corvette or a motorcycle capable of 145 mph when there is not a single road you can go that fast in the country. Approximately 50,000 people will be killed with firearms this year approximate half of those will be suicide and approximately 2000 will be accidental (Frosh Obama no comments).

In 2013 46,471 Americans died from drug overdoses and in eight years I have not heard Obama say or try to do anything about this problem.

The facts just don't matter to these gun grabbers. They reference polls that the majority of American support gun laws. It is our constitutional right get over it. Yet when the people of California vote not to approve gay marriage it goes to the court and the masses are told a majority public opinion can not strip a person of their constitutional right and for those who oppose gay marriage you just have to get over it.

Great country!

awteam2000

" Approximately 50,000 people will be killed with firearms this year approximate half of those will be suicide and approximately 2000 will be accidental" Doesn't that suggest guns are to readily available? As a retired officer, how would you go about reducing the number of firearm deaths? Should we even try?

DeDeuceCoupe32

The auto industry is as reckless as the NRA and gun lobby? LOL. Anyone can buy a new corvette?LOL. My rock is calling me.

DickD

Your point on cars fascinates me, mainly because it is well known, but not given any real thought. Why are cars built to go two or three times faster than the laws allow, I don't know. It does bother me when cars go by me doing 10, 20 and some 30 mph over the speed limit. Equally bad is the tailgating that goes on, many cars follow way too close to allow for reaction time and braking, to prevent an accident. The courts are certainly too lenient, but police not enforcing laws is just as bad.

johnqFrederick

Then -- you just described the driver's poor judgement while driving -- someone is using a car in a dangerous and illegal manner

DickD

jq, you really don't understand, Donald Trump is no Republican. Even moderate Republicans are saying that, he is a gift to Hillary and in spite of your right wing ideas, you are adding to it, in spite of not liking Hillary. That shows lack of being able to think rationally.

awteam2000

Hey Q, what tribe are you a member of?

DickD

Trump will lead in the polls until the primaries and rational Republicans vote. Right now, you are just getting the lunatic fringe. Even the Republican National Committee doesn't support Trump, he is entertaining. More so when you realize he is destroying all the National Republican Committee is trying to do and he is no real Republican.

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johnqFrederick

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bjonesskins69

Mom's Looking for Publicity

bjonesskins69

We need to enforce the many gun laws already on the books. And ensure that our judicial system has no mercy in sentencing felons convicted of gun-related violence/mayhem. How many times do we hear about the perp's priors and wonder why they were not locked away in a cage?

Btwjgul

There's no doubt where the FNP stands on this narrative of gun control...above the fold on the the FRONT PAGE, for this article. I guess gun control IS that important for the Randall Family... Stop calling yourself a News organization and call yourself who you are...a propaganda machine.

BlueDawn666

Constitutional rights are not absolute. They never have been and, practically, never can be. In our constitutional democracy, we have always recognized that we can, and must, have our constitutional cake and regulate it too.

Take, for example, our freedom of speech. It is one of the most clearly stated and robustly protected rights in the Constitution, yet it is also subject to numerous restrictions. Our speech might not be protected if it falsely damages someone’s reputation, aids and abets a crime, contains a threat of violence, reveals a trade or military secret, harasses, plagiarizes, inflicts severe emotional distress, is deemed to be obscene, incites violence, or leaks classified information, to name a few. The United States Supreme Court further allows restrictions on when, where, and how we can express ourselves even when the message itself is protected. In some cases we control who may speak, such as limitations we may constitutionally impose on the speech of students, prisoners, and government employees.

The Second Amendment, of course, is no exception. In the 2008 case of District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court told us that we have a constitutional right to possess firearms for self-defense, at least within our homes. But the opinion never suggested that this right was unconditional or immune from all regulation. In fact, Justice Scalia, writing for the majority, said just the opposite. In Heller, he specifically said that “the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.”

Protecting the right to keep and bear arms is not the same as forbidding all regulations on that right. We can protect that right and still require background checks, permits, and training. We can still regulate when, where, and what kinds of guns are allowed. In some cases, we can regulate who can obtain guns, imposing restrictions on, for instance, felons, the mentally ill, and known terrorists.

And you don’t need to take my word for it. Let’s take another listen to Justice Scalia in Heller, shall we? The Second Amendment, he stated, does not protect “the right of citizens to carry arms for any sort of confrontation, just as we do not read the First Amendment to protect the right of citizens to speak for any purpose.” He further noted that nothing in the court’s decision “should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

Considering that the framers prefaced the Second Amendment with the observation that a “well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,” its language—“shall not be infringed” notwithstanding—is arguably less absolutist than many other constitutional provisions that did not come with a qualifier.

Our constitutional rights are not an all-or-nothing deal. We can uphold the Second Amendment and still pass reasonable regulations that further the public’s interest in safety. So don’t feel you need to choose between protecting our Second Amendment rights and supporting sensible gun regulations. Why should you? The Constitution doesn’t.

johnqFrederick

And the 'limits', laws, and regulations that are already in place seem to have mixed results -- similar to the ACA -- mixed results -- but one thing is certain, and you and other liberals continue to obfuscate the truth -- the Federal Government cannot centralize and regulate firearms without infringing the 2A -- this is fact -- look at how the Federal bureaucracy screws up so many 'well intentioned' ideas -- like health care, like the borders, like immigration, like current law enforcement, like the terrorist watch list and no-fly 'suspect' list, like 'punish your enemies', like 'transform American', . . .

No thank you -- it seems like Obama and his minions have lost the trust of the majority of Americans --

BlueDawn666

Huh you as well are suffering from confirmation bias - Did you read Eric's letter he has case of that as well.
In psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias (or confirmatory bias) is a tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions, leading to statistical errors.

Don't worry we will be patient with you and allow you to make all the statistical errors, which is nice way to say make a fool out of yourself, you want. May logic and reason one day guide your path.

johnqFrederick

Just one-in-three voters (34%) give Obama good or excellent marks for his response to last week’s mass shooting in San Bernardino. Only 30% think the federal government is doing a good or excellent job monitoring potential terrorists inside the United States.

In a speech to the nation Sunday night following the first major attack by radical Islamic terrorists on American soil in several years, the president outlined the measures being taken to fight the radical Islamic State group (ISIS), called for more gun control and cautioned against anti-Muslim bias. Sixty-nine percent (69%) of voters think the San Bernardino incident is primarily a terrorism issue rather than a gun issue.

johnqFrederick

Most voters believe the gun policies of the National Rifle Association make this country safer, perhaps in part because Americans tend to think more gun control will only hurt law-abiding citizens.

Americans have long contended that more action to treat mental illness will be more effective that increased gun control to reduce the number of mass murders.

johnqFrederick

The Majority of Americans do not trust Obama:

The latest figures include 23% who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 42% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -19.

DickD

jq, get over your right wing rhetoric, this is about safety, not Obama.

DickD

You, the minority of one has decided that? lol

armillary

I support Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. I own guns, I like guns and I have no problem with tougher gun laws. We can do better than we're doing at protecting our community from gun violence.

johnqFrederick

What a great slogan, "Protecting our Community from Gun Violence, by Arming Yourself with a Gun"

DickD

This sounds like anarchy to me.

Sallyforth

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DickD

ar, you are being very rational, thank you.

jsklinelga

Yesterday I read the they history of legal rulings concerning the 2nd amendment. We do have gun laws on the books. Like most citizens I believe in some regulations.

Personally, although off topic slightly, I am appalled at how we arm the world. In the violent and bloody Middle East, the trademark, "made in USA" appears on the majority of the small weaponry. I would support a march on DC to stop that.

tatt2ed

jsk... As someone who has faced those hostile to us, the vast majority of the small weaponry is of the AK family. Russian arms, made in China, Poland and the former Czechoslovakia, are the weapon most chosen around the world. U.S. weapons, like the M-4 carbine and the M-16 are too expensive, and difficult to repair.

johnqFrederick

[thumbup] yes, correct -- AK is manufactured in over 30 countries! The US manufacturer builds one of the best quality,

johnqFrederick

"She has also contacted Frederick County Public Schools about implementing gun-safety education in the schools.

Good for you -- NRA has the Eddie Eagle Program -- yet, the FCPS will not allow the firearm safety literature in schools.

If you attempt to put gun control literature in school, then FCPS will also need to allow the NRA Firearm Safety literature.

anony936

Is it true the FCPS will not allow firearm safety literature in schools? Things sure have changed. When I attended West Frederick Jr. High School, as part of PE class, all the boys went down in "the Dungeon" ( an unfinished portion of the school, underground, with dirt floors and only cinderblock walls, that lay beneath the bus loading area, and we received the NRA Safe Hunter course. We fired .22 cal. rifles and got certificates and patches to prove we passed. The instructor even took a .22 shell apart and dumped the powder in an ash tray ant lit it with a match - so we wouldn't feel the need to ever try it ourselves. They taught us "Never point a gun at anyone- unless you intend to kill them". Of course that was with the understanding that many of us would be drafted or join the military. As I said - things sure have changed.

johnqFrederick

Is the FNP writer serious when he wrote, "Just over a week after two people in San Bernardino, California, walked into a government building and shot and killed 14 people"

Is this how you and other liberals mischaracterize the real events? Radical Islamist Terrorists planned and carried out the attack on innocent people -- in a gun free zone -- in a state with the strictest gun laws.

And you have 4 mothers with a different 'view' -- a 'v', like voting for HRC with their V-iew

Here is the reality: firearm sales are up dramatically -- Obama and the bleeding heart liberals are the best PR and advertising for gun sales --

We live in a free and democratic society -- we do no live like those in Europe or the Middle East -- I have not relinquished my Rights to the government -- nor will I.

So these 4 moms want stricter gun laws -- and yet no evidence that any gun law would have prevented the terrorist attack last week -- to the contrary, it was exactly gun control laws and gun free zones that made these people targets during the attack -- no way to defend -- law enforcement arrived AFTER the terrorists fled from the building.

jsklinelga

johnqFredneck
I am opposed to hyperbolic rhetoric. Quite often you express the extreme right view in this comment section.
But the comment, "the bleeding heart liberals are the best PR and advertising for gun sales--" is absolutely correct. Until recently I have always characterized myself as a bleeding heart liberal. Fortunately, until recently I have had an underexposure to social media. After several months of being involved in this comment section my views have changed significantly. I simply am astounded at the radical extremist views constantly expressed in this section. They are simply 180 degrees opposite of everything the America was when I grew up and the America I want my grandchildren to live in. For the first time in my life I have found myself supporting the 2nd Amendment. It is not the guns causing the violence.

But just like inflammatory rhetoric from the left incites people, so does inflammatory rhetoric from the right. Hopefully the vast, reasonable, silent majority, (a term I used to deplore) will soon start to speak out. We need tolerance, civility and respect restored in our culture or we will continue on a downward spiral.

Btwjgul

Tell that to the POTUS, all of this lack of civility and lack of unity is of his design, and is right from Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals", create unrest in order to create a revolution. Being informed and educated is a REQUIREMENT of a free society, fortunately it is happening, despite what the FNP, others on the left, and the old media, are doing.
I'm seeing that the old media is being exposed for who they are.

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DickD

Interesting jq, so apparently you think more guns are the answer, I don't but I don't want all guns confiscated either. That is where I see this going because there does not seem to be a middle and rational consensus.

DickD

You are right, but how do you get civility, when the far right will not compromise on anything. Guns are not the problem, as you state, but Obama has offered reasonable compromise and no one on the right it is willing to listen. How do you get civility and compromise when the far right is unwilling to even admit there is a problem.

phydeaux994

You are right johnq, stricter gun laws would probably not prevent terrorist, domestic and foreign, mass murders by gunfire. What stricter gun control laws, a National Gun Registration and transfer law and Universal Background Checks, would help diminish is the 30 people murdered every day by guns in the U.S. We must get guns out of the hands of every Tom, Dick, and child who have no trouble getting their hands on one, as evidenced right here in Frederick. Eleven thousand American citizens killed every year by guns that are obtained so easily by anonymous buyers. If you add up the total number of citizens killed by foreign terrorists in the U.S. it would not add up to the number killed every year by our own citizens.

herbie

So Mr. Republican you admit more gun laws will not stop criminals from committing crimes but it would make it harder for law abiding citizens for protecting themselves. Obama must be proud of you

The fact is Obama and the left have been the best gun salespeople the gun industry ever had. The surge in gun sales and the number of states with concealed carry has shown more guns does equal less crime. With more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens the number of shootings has dropped since gun grabber Obama took office

Put that in your Funk and Wagnall Mr. Republican

johnqFrederick

Plenty of gun laws -- and the new laws you seek are in place, yet the judicial system and process creates a gap -- a plea bargain --

What if all these 'loopholes' you speak of are closed? Have you tried to purchase a firearm at a gun show without identification or a background check?

If your gun is stolen and used in a crime -- how are you new laws preventing the crime? Are you going to go further and ask for a reduction in the number of guns per person? or, maybe we should all lock our guns at an approved government facility, and require each of us to 'identify the purpose, show credentials, wait 3 days, have our firearm brought to us, we are monitored as we use our firearm by an approved federal official, then after our 1 hour visitation with our gun is over, the gun is confiscated and returned to the federal gun locker'.

Seems like a great idea -- to a liberal -- an these are actual draft gun regulations proposed in several states over the last 10 years.

How are those pesky borders? Can CBP prevent the gun smuggling like drug smuggling? Oh, yea, that's right, if we legalize drugs, err, I mean guns, then the drug problem, err, gun problem will go away.

Maybe Maryland can approve specific gun sites across Maryland, and open bids for companies to compete for the 'gun lockers'?

"We must get guns out of the hands of every . . . who have no trouble getting their hands on one . . ." And, Ron Young and AG Idiot Frosh passed strict gun laws and you are saying there are still gun problems? Oh, so we should maybe have all the Maryland borders monitored like checkpoints, and confiscate firearms as cars cross into Maryland -- like the way we confiscate cigarettes?

Maryland tries to regulate every facet of life that a liberal DEM lawmaker can think of -- and the unintended consequences continue

Firearms are a deterrent to crime, a deterrent to tyranny, -- do these Moms and others like yourself plan to march on Chicago?

Did you propose pipe bomb laws? More regulations? Is there a waiting period and background checks on purchasing pipe from the local hardware store? What about a background check on the remote detonators -- you know, those pesky cell phones?

Do you have a ban on the Internet to filter 'the dummy's guide to islamic jihadist' or 'how to make an IED in 30 days'?

What else can we ban, regulate, or simply add more laws -- without the enforcement? without the judicial system fully upholding the existing laws? You mention the crime here in Frederick, so follow up with the judicial system and find our where those criminals are in the sentencing phase.

DickD

jq, there have been reasonable offers made, you need to listen. I don't want all guns taken away either. Reasonable restrictions such as restricting those with mental problems, those with felony convictions, gun magazines limits etc. are restrictions we can all live with and I do mean live

johnqFrederick

@diick: mental problems, those with felony convictions --- yes,

DickD

Not bad, partial agreement.

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