WASHINGTON (AP) — Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, angrily confronted Kentucky GOP Sen. Rand Paul on Tuesday in testimony on Capitol Hill, rejecting Paul's insinuation that the U.S. helped fund research at a Chinese lab that could have sparked the COVID-19 outbreak.

Paul suggested that Fauci had lied before Congress when in May he denied that the National Institutes of Health funded so-called “gain of function” research — the practice of enhancing a virus in a lab to study its potential impact in the real world — at a Wuhan virology lab. U.S. intelligence agencies are currently exploring theories that an accidental leak from that lab could have led to the global pandemic.

“I have not lied before Congress. I have never lied. Certainly not before Congress. Case closed,” Fauci told Paul before the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee, saying a study the senator mentioned referenced a different sort of virus entirely from the one responsible for the coronavirus outbreak.

“Senator Paul, you do not know what you’re talking about, quite frankly,” Fauci said. "And I want to say that officially. You do not know what you’re talking about.”

He added, “If anybody is lying here, senator, it is you.”

It was the latest in a series of clashes between Paul and Fauci over the origins of the virus that caused the global pandemic.

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Loved it. Go Fauci.


Hurrah, for Fauci. I will take his words any day over Paul, a Republican supporter of the Big Lie.


Rand Paul is a political animal and , as such, puts his own agenda ahead of the truth.

Greg F

Rand Paul is simply a lunatic, and a failed optician that is desperate to get his father’s notoriety. He has not once been right on anything. He should be charged with subversion for his derisive and false claims that undermine this nation.


Actually, not a failed optician. He is a licensed ophthalmologist specializing cataract and glaucoma surgeries, LASIK procedures, and corneal transplants. So yes, he is a Medical Doctor still licensed in Kentucky, not an eyeglass fitter. He also founded the Southern Kentucky Lions Eye Clinic in 2009 to help provide eye surgery and exams for those who cannot afford to pay.

Greg F

Mmkay…whatever https://www.thedailybeast.com/rand-paul-ophthalmology-certification-scandal-why-it-matters

Greg F

And more whatever https://www.salon.com/2010/06/14/rand_2/


Aware of the controversy gregf. The snarky tone of the articles immediately tells the reader where the story was going. Dr. Paul didn't like that the ABO grandfathered the older doctors from recertification, only requiring younger doctors to recertification every 10 years. Do you support older doctors not having to recertification every 10 years? I especially would want older doctors to recertification to assure that they are up on the latest knowledge and technology. The NBO recertification plan was to re-up certification every 10 years, regardless of age, and the process was allegedly more rigorous. Unfortunately, his organization failed to gain support, and it folded. Kentucky does not require board certification, so he is right with those grandfathered doctors.


Try this article from the WaPo GregF. It's got a little less attitude:


Nonetheless, he still is not an optician, but a practicing MD.


I watched this exchange, and Dr. Fauci is right. Dr. Paul has no idea what he is talking about in this situation, and was being a total @$$ in his "questioning". He was going for the political points rather than the science. He should be better than that.


gabrielshorn, do you really expect just about any politician (doesn't matter what political party) to be better than that? There are very few that I have any faith in or respect for.

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