TEHRAN, Iran — Iran struck back at the United States for the killing of a top Iranian general early Wednesday, firing a series of ballistic missiles at two Iraqi bases housing U.S. troops in a major escalation that brought the two longtime foes closer to war.

Iranian state TV said it was in revenge for the U.S. killing of Revolutionary Guard Gen. Qassem Soleimani, whose death last week in an American drone strike near Baghdad prompted angry calls to avenge his slaying. A U.S. official said there were no immediate reports of American casualties, though buildings were still being searched.

‘All is well!’ President Donald Trump tweeted shortly after the missile attacks, adding, ‘So far, so good’ regarding casualties.

Soleimani’s killing and the strikes by Iran came as tensions have been rising steadily across the Mideast after President Donald Trump’s decision to unilaterally withdraw America from Tehran’s nuclear deal with world powers. They also marked the first time in recent years that Washington and Tehran have attacked each other directly rather than through proxies in the region. It raised the chances of open conflict erupting between the two enemies, which have been at odds since Iran’s 1979 Islamic Revolution.

But in a tweet shortly after the missile launches, Iran’s foreign minister called a ballistic missile attack a “proportionate measures in self-defense” and said it was not seeking to escalate the situation but would defend itself against any aggression.

Iran initially announced only one strike, but U.S. officials confirmed both. U.S. defense officials were at the White House, likely to discuss options with Trump, who launched the strike on Soleimani while facing an upcoming impeachment trial in the Senate,

Iran’s Revolutionary Guard warned the U.S. and its regional allies against retaliating over the missile attack against the Ain al-Asad air base in Iraq’s western Anbar province. The Guard issued the warning via a statement carried by Iran’s state-run IRNA news agency.

“We are warning all American allies, who gave their bases to its terrorist army, that any territory that is the starting point of aggressive acts against Iran will be targeted,” the Guard said. It also threatened Israel.

After the strikes, a former Iranian nuclear negotiator posted a picture of the Islamic Republic’s flag on Twitter, appearing to mimic Trump who posted an American flag following the killing of Soleimani and others Friday in a drone strike in Baghdad.

Ain al-Asad Air Base was first used by American forces after the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that toppled dictator Saddam Hussein, and later saw American troops stationed there amid the fight against the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria. It houses about 1,500 U.S. and coalition forces.

Two Iraqi security officials said at least one of the missiles appeared to have struck a plane at the base, igniting a fire. It was not immediately clear whether it was an Iraqi or U.S. jet. There were no immediate reports of casualties from the attacks, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity as they had no permission to brief journalists.

About 70 Norwegian troops also were on the air base but no injuries were reported, Brynjar Stordal, a spokesperson for the Norwegian Armed Forces told The Associated Press.

Trump visited the sprawling Ain al-Asad air base, about 100 miles west of Baghdad, in December 2018, making his first presidential visit to troops in the region. He did not meet with any Iraqi officials at the time, and his visit inflamed sensitivities about the continued presence of U.S. forces in Iraq. Vice President Mike Pence has also visited the base.

Iranian state TV said the Guard’s aerospace division that controls Iran’s missile program launched the attack, which it said was part of an operation dubbed “Martyr Soleimani.” Iran said it would release more information later.

The U.S. also acknowledged another missile attack on a base in Irbil in Iraq’s semi-autonomous Kurdish region.

“As we evaluate the situation and our response, we will take all necessary measures to protect and defend U.S. personnel, partners and allies in the region,” said Jonathan Hoffman, an assistant to the U.S. defense secretary.

Wednesday’s revenge attack happened a mere few hours after crowds in Iran mourned Soleimani at his funeral. It also came the U.S. continued to reinforce its own positions in the region and warned of an unspecified threat to shipping from Iran in the region’s waterways, crucial routes for global energy supplies. U.S. embassies and consulates from Asia to Africa and Europe issued security alerts for Americans. The FAA also warned of a “potential for miscalculation or mis-identification” for civilian aircraft in the Persian Gulf amid in an emergency flight restriction.

A stampede broke out Tuesday at Soleimani’s funeral, and at least 56 people were killed and more than 200 were injured as thousands thronged the procession, Iranian news reports said. Shortly after Iran’s revenge missile launches early Wednesday, Soleimani’s shroud-wrapped remains were lowered into the ground as mourners wailed at the grave site.

Tuesday’s deadly stampede took place in Soleimani’s hometown of Kerman as his coffin was being borne through the city in southeastern Iran, said Pirhossein Koulivand, head of Iran’s emergency medical services.

There was no information about what set off the crush in the packed streets, and online videos showed only its aftermath: people lying apparently lifeless, their faces covered by clothing, emergency crews performing CPR on the fallen, and onlookers wailing and crying out to God.

“Unfortunately as a result of the stampede, some of our compatriots have been injured and some have been killed during the funeral processions,” Koulivand said, and state TV quoted him as saying that 56 had died and 213 had been injured.

Soleimani’s burial was delayed, with no new time given, because of concerns about the huge crowd at the cemetery, the semi-official ISNA news agency said.

A procession in Tehran on Monday drew over 1 million people in the Iranian capital, crowding both main avenues and side streets in Tehran. Such mass crowds can prove dangerous. A smaller stampede at the 1989 funeral for Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini killed at least eight people and injured hundreds.

Hossein Salami, Soleimani’s successor as leader of the Revolutionary Guard, addressed a crowd of supporters gathered at the coffin in a central square in Kernan. He vowed to avenge Soleimani, who was killed in a U.S. drone strike Friday near Baghdad’s airport.

“We tell our enemies that we will retaliate but if they take another action we will set ablaze the places that they like and are passionate about,” Salami said.

“Death to Israel!” the crowd shouted in response, referring to one of Iran’s longtime regional foes.

Salami praised Soleimani’s work, describing him as essential to backing Palestinian groups, Yemen’s Houthi rebels and Shiite militias in Iraq and Syria. As a martyr, Soleimani represented an even greater threat to Iran’s enemies, Salami said.

Soleimani will ultimately be laid to rest between the graves of Enayatollah Talebizadeh and Mohammad Hossein Yousef Elahi, two former Guard comrades killed in Iran’s 1980s war with Iraq. They died in Operation Dawn 8, in which Soleimani also took part. It was a 1986 amphibious assault that cut Iraq off from the Persian Gulf and led to the end of the war that killed 1 million.

The funeral processions in major cities over three days have been an unprecedented honor for Soleimani, seen by Iranians as a national hero for his work leading the Guard’s expeditionary Quds Force.

The U.S. blames him for killing U.S. troops in Iraq and accused him of plotting new attacks just before he was killed. Soleimani also led forces supporting Syrian President Bashar Assad in that country’s civil war, and he also served as the point man for Iranian proxies in countries like Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen. Russian President Vladimir Putin met with Assad in Syria on Tuesday amid the tensions between Washington and Tehran.

Soleimani’s slaying already has led Tehran to abandon the remaining limits of its 2015 nuclear deal with world powers as his successor and others vow to take revenge.

In Iraq, pro-Iranian factions in parliament have pushed to oust American troops from Iraqi soil following Soleimani’s killing. Germany and Canada announced plans to move some of their soldiers in Iraq to neighboring countries.

The FAA warning barred U.S. pilots and carriers from flying over areas of Iraqi, Iranian and some Persian Gulf airspace. The region is a major East-West travel hub and home to Emirates airline and Dubai International Airport, the world’s busiest for international travel. It earlier issued warnings after Iran shot down a U.S. military surveillance drone last year that saw airlines plan new routes to avoid the Strait of Hormuz.

The U.S. Maritime Administration warned ships across the Mideast, citing the rising threats. “The Iranian response to this action, if any, is unknown, but there remains the possibility of Iranian action against U.S. maritime interests in the region,” it said.

Oil tankers were targeted in mine attacks last year that the U.S. blamed on Iran. Tehran denied responsibility, although it did seize oil tankers around the crucial Strait of Hormuz, the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf through which 20% of the world’s crude oil travels.

The U.S. Navy’s Bahrain-based 5th Fleet said it would work with shippers in the region to minimize any possible threat.

The 5th Fleet “has and will continue to provide advice to merchant shipping as appropriate regarding recommended security precautions in light of the heightened tensions and threats in the region,” 5th Fleet spokesman Cmdr. Joshua Frey told The Associated Press.

Iran’s parliament, meanwhile, has passed an urgent bill declaring the U.S. military’s command at the Pentagon and those acting on its behalf in Soleimani’s killing as “terrorists,” subject to Iranian sanctions. The measure appears to be in response to a decision by Trump in April to declare the Revolutionary Guard a “terrorist organization.”

The U.S. Defense Department used that terror designation to support the strike that killed Soleimani.

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FCPS-Principal

Mission Accomplished! Hahahaha!

jagman

All in what we have here is a big win for the USA. We killed a well known international terrorist responsible for much turmoil in the ME and 600+ American lives gone. Better yet, he was so high placed in the Iranian government that they are going to be set back for some time to come. No less important, we also got another high ranker in that missile strike. What happened in response? Iran damaged some tarmac on our military base.

Trump has made the right decision to not wipe them from existence at this time. Better to tighten the screws on sanctions. Strangle their economy until the mullahs are brought to heal. Will that work? Time will tell.

However, my guess is given Iran's history since 1979 they will not learn much from this. Of course, America is quite capable of doing whatever needs to be done. We have a strong leader who is not a "warmonger" but also will not put up with loss of American lives.

Meanwhile, back in good old Frederick USA, we can continue to count on the usual whining and moaning from the small but dedicated liberal posters and the few fake republicans who like to virtue signal while cashing in on Trumps' economic success.

Note the markets are up to all time highs (NASDAQ and S&P, Dow at near high) after Trumps speech today. Watch and weep, libs.

awteam2000

Sure, we can out power Iran. We have the largest, mot powerful military in history. But what for? How much time, lost treasure, dead GI Joes and Janes hate towards Americans are you willing to endure, and for what for? So we can say we won? Won what?

Negotiating differences is a bigger strength then war. That’s what Trump claimed he brought to the table. So far, he hasn’t shown up.

jagman

AW, your response indicates you did not read my second paragraph. Try again after another look.

Additionally, we can't negotiate with the Mullahs. We can, however, tighten the screws with more sanctions. Exactly what Trump proposed today. I would think you'd agree with that approach.

awteam2000

Jagman, maybe you didn’t read your owe second paragraph: “Trump has made the right decision to not wipe them from existence at this time. Better to tighten the screws on sanctions. Strangle their economy until the mullahs are brought to heal. Will that work? Time will tell.”

So what sanctions are tightening are youreferring to other than what’s already in place? “Algebra, chemistry” the universal numeric system?

There is a point where you leave your adversary know choice other than to swing back. Iran said this was a “smacked in the face” of Americans. Are we ready for the punch?

jagman

We've got a long way to go before these wackos are tamed. It may take destroying their military. Or it may be possible to pinch off their economy more completely.

One thing is for sure. They know the USA can wipe them from the map. Should we? Time will tell. Iran has been an issue for 40 years. It is the people of Iran that need to force change in that country.

Obadiah Plainsmen

The Persians have been fighting wars for about 3,000 years and America 245 years. America has the technology to crush them but won’t. The Persians have the resolve to continue the fight and will. Unless moderate Persian millennials will say enough is enough and demand peace.

jagman

They tried in 2009 but were dissed by "the one". Not sure what it will take to get them motivated again but agree that real change must come from within.

veritas

Trump wins... ayotollas and libs lose. The only human suffering incurred was American, in the form of a rampant flare up of millions of cases of chronic TDS. Poor souls...

threecents

Veri, Kind of you to be concerned about us. We will show you proportional kindness following the election should Trump lose.

veritas

Just keepin' it real, 3. Trump could well lose, but it will take a lot more work on the part the of the Democratic party to make it happen. As of now your candidates are all too far left and exclusively bi-coastal in appeal. "Traditional" blue collar and moderarte Dems in the fly-over states aren't nearly as enamored as you (sorry, 3, but you meet the defintion of a bi-coastal liberal) with the GND, sanctuary cities, open borders, "free" government-run health care - even for illegals, late term abortion on demand, etc. The list is very Long and very Leftist. Even mis-labeled "moderates" Joe Biden, Amy Klobucharand Pete Budasomething have too much uber-liberal ick on them for the used-to-be-Democrats. The folks Dems need to attract and win have much more in common with the Trump agenda than the socialism-focused objectives of coastal elites. (Think Ricky Gervais)

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threecents

Any relation to Tom?

matts853

There’s a possibility being discussed that this was a staged attack not intended to kill anyone, but to give the Iranian people the impression of revenge without killing any of our people or Iraqi friendlies so we can say ‘no harm no foul.’ It appears that everyone knew this was going to happen and was able to take cover. Plus some are saying the attack looked intentionally sloppy. If so, whoever devised this solution is owed a huge thanks. One person I know who didn’t is Trump. I’m sure if he got his way the bombs would be a blasting right now. So hopefully someone(s) in our government has Trump under control.

But we still need to solve the problem of them working toward nukes. If nothing else, this incident shows that a nuclear Iran would be way too dangerous for the world. All it would take is an idiot like Trump to trigger a really hot war one day.

gabrielshorn2013

I agree Matt. That is the information I am getting too. Of course Iran had to save face by "doing something", and they did. The base apparently knew beforehand, and took cover. The missiles apparently did minimal damage to the Iraqi bases that the US and its allies were using. Now maybe everyone will settle down and wait for the intelligence reports to be made public.

Henry_Avery

Jesus. BOTH of you are naive to think Iran did this to save face, that it was a weak response, or to show their populace that they responded to the "great Satan". We knew those ballistic missiles were coming -- probably even watched the Iranians move them into position.

How do you think such a nation that has funded global attacks will answer to the killing of one of its most powerful leaders? There is more to come.

I would encourage you to read up on the Isreali Embassy Bombing in Buenos Aires in 1992, in response to the IDFs killing of Abbas al Moussai. A follow-up attack occurred two years later in the same place.

Iran operates on its own timeline.

Obadiah Plainsmen

You da’Man Henry, 9/11 was retaliation to Bush 41 1991 War. OSB was irate the Saudi Arabia allowed the Great Satan to launch a war from his homeland. It took him 10 years but he accomplish it. Some people can’t and will not see the big picture. When one dies another takes his place and the fight continues.

gabrielshorn2013

Hank, If you read what I actually said, you would see that I said it is what I heard too, which comported with what Matt said. As for your statement "Iran operates on its own timeline", well no Scheiß Sherlock! Iran has been involved in many covert operations through their operatives and proxies. I pointed that out in several of my posts on this issue.

matts853

It’s been over theee hours since your rant. New info doesn’t support your cocksure feelings. Care to tone it down?

awteam2000

The ‘big picture’? Never has Iran launched an attack directly from Iran against US forces in another country. Using their ballistic missile technology they showed the ability to strike with precision anywhere in the middle-East: Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, Qatar, Yemen, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria and Afghanistan are all vulnerable to Iranian attacks. Putting 60,000 US troops in harms was and a boat load of countries that don’t want fighting in their countries and are rethinking whether they want US forces in their countries , especially if it’s being attacked over Trump’s buffoonery. Iran is way more threatening to unrest in the Middle East then they were three years ago. No doubt about that. That’s why we’re sending more troops. Not to mention they have announced restarting their nuclear program, rebuilding nuclear centrifuges that where dismantled under the Obama administration. Stay tuned ...

Henry_Avery

From matts853

Jan 8, 2020 3:21pm

“It’s been over theee hours since your rant. New info doesn’t support your cocksure feelings. Care to tone it down?”

New “info”?!? HAHAHAHA!!

It’s a d*mn goat rodeo over at State and DoD right now. Why believe ANYTHING originating from those sources?

Henry_Avery

You’re still talking about conventional warfare. I’m telling you, Iran will respond unconventionally. We’re already seeing a cascade of cyber attempts from Iran.

matts853

Henry Avery: Goat rodeo...now that I agree with! This is the Trump administration.

Henry_Avery

Just reviewed the photos from Planet Labs of Al Assad airbase. This was not a “saving face” strike. The Iranians hit what they intended to hit, with precision. As though they paced off the area before hand.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31769/satellite-images-show-the-aftermath-of-irans-missile-strikes-on-al-assad-air-base-in-iraq

gabrielshorn2013

Hank, From this morning's CNN Newsfeed:

Iran

A few days ago, it looked like the US and Iran might be spiraling toward war. It appears that threat has passed -- for now. President Trump responded to this week's attack by Iran on Iraqi military bases that house US troops by promising more sanctions and warning that the conflict isn't over. It sounds threatening, but it's far tamer than exchanging another round of airstrikes. It may have helped that there were no reported casualties, which some experts say could have been deliberate on Iran's part. Though tensions have eased slightly, the conflict -- and the region where it is playing out -- is still volatile. Countries have issued safety warnings urging tourists to avoid the Middle East.

gabrielshorn2013

Hank, From the Washington Post 4 hours ago:

‘We did not intend to kill,’ Iranian commander says of missile strike on U.S. targets

By

Kareem Fahim and

Istanbul bureau chief covering the Middle East

Sarah Dadouch

Jan. 9, 2020 at 1:10 p.m. EST

ISTANBUL — An Iranian military commander said Thursday that missiles fired at bases used by U.S. troops in Iraq were not intended to inflict casualties, in the latest sign that Iran was seeking to avoid further escalation of hostilities with the United States.

After more than a dozen missiles slammed into the bases early Wednesday local time, both sides for now appear to be stepping back from further conflict.

“We did not intend to kill,” said Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the head of the Revolutionary Guard’s Aerospace Force, according to Iranian state media. “We intended to hit the enemy’s military machinery.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/missile-strike-on-us-bases-did-not-intend-to-kill-says-iranian-commander/2020/01/09/c5c2295c-3260-11ea-971b-43bec3ff9860_story.html

threecents

That is consistent with accounts I read and with Trump's 11AM speech, which I thought was good, aside from him blaming Obama's unfreezing of Iranian assets for terrorist activities. In my opinion the main incentive for Iran's bad behavior was Trump's unilateral attack on their economy and breaking the international treaty with Iran.

matts853

It’s also being repeated that both sides were negotiating through a Swiss mediator. Iran didn’t want us to destroy them, and we didn’t want to lose thousands of our own song that. Looks like cooler heads prevailed. Doubtful the FoxNews watchers have caught up yet.

matts853

I also thought it was very telling that the Joint Chiefs and SecDef left the whitehouse (with Trump still there) last night very early, like before 11. My hunch: this “attack” was coordinated through the Swiss intermediaries. Our generals knew the Iranian’s weren’t really shooting at us, just saving face, and there’d be no more shooting over night. Why else would they leave the president instead of hunkering down in the situation room? I also doubt that Trump approved of this faux attack to save the peace. I bet he wanted to shoot back, and if he did, we’d be at war right now. The generals probably have trump a Valium and a glass of water, patted him on his orange head and sent him off to bed like little Cindy Lou Hoo. I’m convinced Trump is being handled. I mean, are we really to believe that when he said we have 52 sites targeted in Iran including cultural sites that he even discussed this with our generals? No way, because they know better.

Things look under control for now, but we’ll never be out of the woods as long as Trump is president.

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gabrielshorn2013

m3g, FAUX Principal is not affiliated with FCPS. They would be in violation of their employment contract and terminated if they were.

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matts853

Is your first name mm and your middle initial m? Or first name mmm, or maybe some other undisclosed combination? Just curious.

Matt Seubert

Sane Republican

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Obadiah Plainsmen

You got it backwards, Those of us using fake names are as follows: Trump Supporters are "cult", rigid Democrats are "Klan"

LeonardKeepers

President Trump has done the right thing.we cannot let these fanatics walk over us and show just how ignorant they really are with their ideals.

DickD

Yeah and the Donald Trump cult is right. [lol]

gabrielshorn2013

At this point we are unsure until the intel comes out dick. Also in the car that was targeted was Hezbollah terrorist Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, who was also killed. Question for you. What would you have said if the intel showed that Suleimani was working on attack plans with Hezbollah, and we didn't act on it. Then there was an attack, resulting in the loss of American lives? Would you then attack the President for his inaction? If you remember correctly, that was the claim against GW Bush after 9/11. I don't like first strikes, but I am waiting for the intel report.

jsklinelga

There is little doubt that Iran has a revolutionary government and wishes to spread this religious revolution throughout the Middle East. Just reading the excerpts of their constitution gives excellent insight into the fervor behind their cause. They cast off the decadence of the West that was corrupting their society and perverting Islamic law. It is a pure Islamic country. It has no homosexuals. Women are obedient

Iran is a wealthy country with an educated populace. It is a major force in the Middle East. It has openly declared "death to Israel." A position that seems to be gaining traction with the rise of antisemitism in Europe.among the expanding Muslim population. An Islamic tenet of no mercy to your enemy proclaimed from such a powerful country seems to be the cause for concern of them becoming a nuclear power. Are we right in trying to curb their influence seems to be the question of the hour.

Consider the recent punishment for an internal dissident. "In August 2019, Iranian civil rights activist Saba Kord Afshari was sentenced to 24 years behind bars, including a 15-year term for taking off her hijab in public, which Iranian authorities say promoted "corruption and prostitution".[33][34]

DickD

Oh, God, another epistle by Jim.

jsklinelga

DickD

Just wait. I have an even longer one on climate. Slow morning.

DickD

We really don't need a book, Jim.

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mmmgeisbert

Another name calling post by the Frederick County Public School Principal...

awteam2000

I g

phydeaux994

Kim Jong Un killed an American schoolboy recently and has slaughtered who knows how many of his Countrymen. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Satan killed an American journalist recently and at the very least has imprisoned hundreds of his Political enemies including Women who wanted to drive a car and go shopping without a male escort. Vladimir Putin kills and imprisons his Political enemies. Why hasn’t Trump sent a drone to those Countries? Soleimani was no different from those guys. Why didn’t Trump “LOVE” him?

Obadiah Plainsmen

Simple ,America has an agreement with Saudi Arabia they will sell their oil using the US dollar. Russia has nuclear weapons. NK bff is China and China has nuclear weapons. And nobody gives an hoot about Iran. An opportunity presented itself to eliminate a terrorist and President Trump took it.

Thewheelone

Obadiah, An opportunity presented itself for the president to fire up his base, eliminate a terrorist and deflect from impeachment hearings. There, I fixed it for you.

Obadiah Plainsmen

Is he is or is he not been impeached? Maybe Trump told Pelosi to hand over the articles to the Senate or I’m going to blow this guy up. And Pelosi said I triple dog dare you!

Alice Jones

So, user, you are in favor of a sham trial that is rigged? How un-American.

awteam2000

He’s impeached.

threecents

Also, Trump has a love affair with the NK leader, while the Iranian general publicly mocked Trump.

gabrielshorn2013

Let's be factually correct, and step back from the hyperbole. Otto Warmbier was born in 1994 and died in 2017 making him 23. Not a boy. His crime was stealing a propaganda poster off the wall of a building while on a trip to the DPRK. When in a foreign country, you are subject to their laws, regardless of how harsh they may be. Jamal Kashoggi was not an American. He was a dissident Saudi citizen living in the US, writing for the WaPo. Neither MBS nor Putin have killed American citizens in terrorist attacks directly attributable to them, which Soleimani was as the head of the Quds Force. He was in a car with Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis a Hezbollah terrorist that car bombed the embassy Kuwait, killing Americans.

User1

But Gabe....the truth doesn’t fit the narrative. The Dimocrats lowpoint.....value the life of a declared international terrorist over red blooded Americans! And what war? The USA has not declared war on Iran. Iran declared war on the USA since Before they’ve taken our embassy employees hostage.

threecents

I have not heard any liberal say they valued the life of the Iranian general. Stop listening to cable news and WFMD conservative talk shows.

jagman

It's said every day on the msm.

Alice Jones

And who made the accusation of said crime? A DPRK agent? And you believe that? I have a bridge to sell you. He was a dissident living in the US as a permanent resident. Smell what you shovel, please.

gabrielshorn2013

We can only go by what the official record is sam. Warmbier was charged with, admitted to, and convicted of stealing the propaganda poster. Are you now agreeing with Trump's outrage over the situation? Kashoggi was not killed in the US either. He was killed in the Saudi Embassy in Turkey, Saudi soil. I am stating published facts from various news sources. You can have your own opinion, but you can't have your own facts. Why the hostility?

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Alice Jones

No, user, YOU get your facts straight. He was a Saudi national with permanent residence status in the US. You need to settle down, complain about your soup that is too hot, and take a nap.

matts853

👍🏻 AJ

Russian

Initial reports 30 Americans KIA

threecents

Initial report I read was that there were no casualties because Iran told Iraq they were going to bomb that site in time for an evacuation.

gabrielshorn2013

Your source Mr. Russian?

DickD

Trump caused all of this. All because of his Impeachment, the lies he told about Biden and withholding money from Ukraine. ..what is our draft dodger POTUS going to do next. Trump has backed us into a corner. We cannot sit idly by while Iran attacks our bases and U.S. military die as a result of Trump's mistakes.

More are going to die, all because of Trump

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matts853

Your statement, useless, comes across as saying they only attacked Iraq.

Pelosi is the cat playing the trump mouse. I’m glad she’s waiting because more info is trickling in and now Bolton wants to testify and tell America the truth that you and the republicans don’t want to hear. Mitch might not ever wince in his craven support of Trump, but I wouldn’t be surprised if 4 R senators at least agree that Bolton should testify. Would you like to hear Bolton, or are you also afraid...or, does the truth and the respect for the constitution mean nothing to you?

gabrielshorn2013

I would sure like to hear what Bolton has to say. But remember, Bolton was probably the most hawkish of all of Trumps advisers, He never supported anything to do with Russia, and always wanted to put the screws to them.

phydeaux994

I guess the Founding Fathers didn’t consider that there would ever be a chance that a POTUS this evil would ever be Elected by a minority of the Nobel citizens of the USA even though they KNEW he was that evil. And that he could dodge any consequences of his evil deeds so easily, just by ignoring the Constitution and the Rule of Law, with the undying support of 40% of the population. The 40% that were the Law and Order, Super Patriots during the Obama Administration. Took me 75 years to find that out. WHO KNEW??!! 😢

DickD

I agree with everything you say, phy. I don't know whether to be sad or angry. I am sad that U.S. military are being killed because a draft dodger wants to be reelected POTUS. And angry that his cult and Mitch McConnell enable Trump to make the U.S. a third world country.

phydeaux994

👍

threecents

Never forget both the good and the deplorable potentials of humanity.

Russian

Like the Roman Empire we are going broke funding these trillion dollar crusades unless we get smart. In 2027 US mandatory obligations will overtake all take revenues in other words we will become insolvent unless we start annexing nations resources soon we need to start with oil rich nations now.

Thewheelone

We killed a bad guy, but a bad guy from a sovereign state; that is the difference between killings Bin Laden and al Baghadadi. It is as if Iran killed or secretary of defense or state. If that happened, how would we react? I am fearful that this thing will blow up and really concerned for anyone in the military especially with our shoot from the hip blowhard president at the helm. Let us jut pray that cooler heads prevail...

gabrielshorn2013

Not quite three. It would have been like killing our SecDef while he was in Nicaragua plotting with the Contras against their government.

phydeaux994

Trump PROMISED his Administration wouldn’t be like all the Screw-Up Administrations that preceded his. His most used EXCUSE since January 20, 2017 has been...”Well Obama, Bush, Clinton, did it FIRST”. We are at WAR with Iran with the BLESSING of the Republican Party. Every drop of American blood spilled or our Allies blood spilled is on the hands of Trump Lovers!!!!

gabrielshorn2013

Yup.

DickD

The cult lovers that have abandoned their religion for the chosen one, Donald Trump.

threecents

Since we are being technical, I am "Three", and Thewheelone is "Wheel".

gabrielshorn2013

Sorry about that three.

gabrielshorn2013

My 8:24 post was for wheel not three.

matts853

A 3 wheeler? Corny, but couldn’t resist.

gabrielshorn2013

[beam][innocent]

threecents

Weely?

Alice Jones

Site your source. There was no credible intelligence anything out of the ordinary (for there) was in the works. This was a pure assassination for political purposes as an attempt to prop up a feckless boy king that is desperately clinging to office.

gabrielshorn2013

Not sure who you are addressing here sam, but this is what I wrote the other day:

gabrielshorn2013 Jan 6, 2020 11:46am

It looks like both sides of this argument are just talking at each other yet again, hurling political slurs without actually seeing a copy of the intelligence briefs. Therefore, neither side knows exactly what was happening, now do they? For the supporters, this was no low-level guy. He was a high-ranking general in the Iranian military, and any actions against him would incur a high price against the US and its citizens from either Iran directly, or through its network of proxys. That was a given. To the detractors, let’s not forget that he was the head of the Quds Force a division primarily responsible for extraterritorial military and clandestine operations. He was instrumental in the deaths of Americans and intelligence indicated that he was in Iraq to plan on more attacks against Americans. Read his bio on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasem_Soleimani. What is not mentioned in many stories is that he was not the only one killed in the strike. Also in the car was Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, who was responsible for car bombing the US Embassy in Kuwait, among many other attacks against Americans. Excerpts from the stories from CNN (hardly a Trump supporter) are below, with links to the complete stories.

“Some information has surfaced.

A source briefed on the latest intelligence told CNN that before the strike, specific information showed Iranian surface to air missiles and other military weaponry that the US had been watching, were moving in on at least two US air bases, as well as US embassies in the region.

Additionally, the source said that the situation was different because the US had advanced notice of his plans to kill Americans and that the previous reason not to kill him has gone away -- fear that it could cause the IRGC to specifically target Americans.

O'Brien made the case Friday that the strike was prompted by intelligence related to Soleimani's movements coupled with ongoing attacks that he was planning against US diplomats and military personnel.

"Soleimani was in the Middle East, in Iraq, and traveling around the Middle East. He had just come from Damascus, where he was planning attacks on American soldiers, airmen, Marines, sailors, and against our diplomats. “

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/04/politics/trump-iran-soleimani-strike-concerns/index.html

We have been in an undeclared war with Iran since 1979

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/05/opinions/us-iran-history-ware-intl/index.html

With all of this information, what would have happened if the US ignored the actionable intelligence, and another Khobar Towers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing), happened? Would the detractors then blame the President for not taking these guys out? Like I said, let’s wait for the official reports before throwing mud at each other, which, in the end gets us nowhere.

https://www.fredericknewspost.com/public/ap/blowback-iran-abandons-nuclear-limits-after-us-killing/article_8502737f-8d29-55aa-a4ac-352db785fce6.html#comments

Everything I said was entirely neutral, so why the hostility? So what was your source stating that there was no credible evidence? I understand that you are a rabid anti-Trumper, but in this instance you just have to wait for the intelligence reports to be made public. Eventually the truth comes out. BTW, answer the questions I posed in the last paragraph. Do you remember the vitriol hurled at GW Bush, alleging that he ignored critical intel on OBL right before 9/11? I sure do, and I lost friends in Tower 1 as a result. Their cars were in the commuter lot for a long time.

Russian

A few deceased Troops to get our boy re-elected is smart republican politics

DickD

Maybe, maybe not - smart.

DickD

Smart for Trump and Trump's cult. Dumb for everyone else.

Russian

Now can we forget about Impeachment and concentrate on Iran?

matts853

Great. And we have the most incompetent and mentally unstable president ever in office.

Thewheelone

You said it, Matts.

disneynut

Absolutely correct

jwhamann

He is indirectly responsible for the dozens of deaths at Suleimani's funeral.

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